Hunting ground: ATL

[exstatic]

They are fucking loaded with long wing players and combo forwards. Someone has to be available.

1 Josh Childress F-G 6-8 210 06/20/1983 Stanford 1
3 Al Harrington F 6-9 245 02/17/1980 St. Patrick's HS (NJ) 7
2 Joe Johnson G 6-7 230 06/29/1981 Arkansas 4
15 Donta Smith G 6-7 215 11/27/1983 Southeastern Illinois 1
5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 12/05/1985 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, VA) 1
24 Marvin Williams F 6-9 230 06/19/1986 North Carolina R

[El_Mago]

1 Josh Childress F-G 6-8 (possible)
3 Al Harrington F 6-9 (will ask for too much money)
2 Joe Johnson G 6-7 (already making too much money)
15 Donta Smith G 6-7 (pass)
5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 (part of their core)
24 Marvin Williams F 6-9 230 (have invested too much in him and to trade the number 2 pick away a year later is not going to happen)

[v2freak]

I like the idea of Harrington. But I don't think he'll come; he left a winning team in Indiana to go to Atlanta so he could start. Pop's not gonna let him start here

[exstatic]

I'd give anyone not named Duncan for Josh Smith. Fucker blocked more shots per game (2.6!!!) than Tim did, and he's a wing.

Even if you discount Harrington and Donta Smith (FAs), that's still 4 guys for essentially 2 positions. Wonder if they'd bite on Scola for one of the Josh's.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The T-Wolves are gonna trade their core, Kevin Garnett, the Kings traded away Chris Webber, Lakers traded Shaq, and the Knicks pratically traded their entire roster, so I hope the Hawks follow them and trade us Josh Smith. We'll get a fantastic dunker who will bring us attention so then people won't say that we're boring.

[v2freak]

Who cares if people think we're boring!? I'm content with watching TD's bankshots, Manu's drives, Tony's passes etc

[Bruno]

Even if you discount Harrington and Donta Smith (FAs), that's still 4 guys for essentially 2 positions.

for 3 positions.
Johnson play SG
Smith/Williams are SF/PF.
Childress is a SG/SF.

They will likely let go harrington and Donta Smith is a project that isn't ready to contribute.

They aren't overcrowded.

[exstatic]

for 3 positions.
Johnson play SG
Smith/Williams are SF/PF.
Childress is a SG/SF.

They will likely let go harrington and Donta Smith is a project that isn't ready to contribute.

They aren't overcrowded.

Even you admit that they are combo forwards. I've checked their roster. They really don't have a true PF. All of the above go between 210 and 230, and that 230 is Joe Johnson.

There are also budgetary considerations. All of those guys are high picks. Hell, the Joshs were drafted the same YEAR. At some point, they will all want to be paid as starters, if not stars. Trading one of them for Luis Scola and starting him off at $4M is going to look like a fucking BARGAIN in 2 years.

[Bruno]

Even you admit that they are combo forwards. I've checked their roster. They really don't have a true PF. All of the above go between 210 and 230, and that 230 is Joe Johnson.

There are also budgetary considerations. All of those guys are high picks. Hell, the Joshs were drafted the same YEAR. At some point, they will all want to be paid as starters, if not stars. Trading one of them for Luis Scola and starting him off at $4M is going to look like a fucking BARGAIN in 2 years.

Williams and Smith are something like 20 years old, they will still gain weight.
In the modern nba, Smith and Williams can play PF without a problem.

Atlanta won't trade Smith, Johnson and Williams.
The only guy they will maybe trade is Childress and I don't think Scola is enough to get him. It's too soon to think at budgetary considerations for Atlanta : Joshes have still 2 years on their rookies contract and Williams 3.

[Horry For 3!]

I like Josh Childress

[FromWayDowntown]

With what the Spurs have to offer, I can't see them getting any of Atlanta's young forwards.

[El_Mago]

Thats what I am thinking.

The only possible one that they would be willing to part with is Childress, but even at that, we don't have anything that they would want for him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Prying anything anything away from Atlanta with what we have to offer is pretty much impossible.

[Spurologist]

ATL is going to have to ship away/trade some of those players if they are going to go any where as a franchise. They need a franchise player. You can't win with great role players.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

They are fucking loaded with long wing players and combo forwards. Someone has to be available.

1 Josh Childress F-G 6-8 210 06/20/1983 would be a nice role player to have, but Hawks won't part wih him Stanford 1
3 Al Harrington F 6-9 245 02/17/1980 Would be THE move of the summer, but will ask too muc, so it won't happen St. Patrick's HS (NJ) 7
2 Joe Johnson G 6-7 230 06/29/1981 won't happen Arkansas 4
15 Donta Smith G 6-7 215 11/27/1983 NO Southeastern Illinois 1
5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 12/05/1985 would be very nice to have Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, VA) 1
24 Marvin Williams F 6-9 230 06/19/1986 again, nice to have but they won't part with him North Carolina R

[ChumpDumper]

Soooooooo we could get some young guys for our franchise player?

Sign me up.

Let's see who's left after they trade for Iverson.

[ducks]

hawks will have to decide who they want
they can not have all the forwards

other teams may offer more

hawks also need a center and spurs have 2 they do not need

[exstatic]

Thats what I am thinking.

The only possible one that they would be willing to part with is Childress, but even at that, we don't have anything that they would want for him.
Childress isn't as good as Josh Smith, just more hyped because of the dunk contest. I'd part with Manu or Parker for Smith.

[ducks]

if you give up parker for him who is the point guard
manu's best postion is not full time point guard
and barry is to freaking old to be main point guard

[ChumpDumper]

Hawks already have a center and they hold the rights to David Andersen, who put up better numbers than Javtokas in Euroleague this season.

[ducks]

hawks need to decide what they do and teams will be calling
I think hawks will get high picks for the ones they do not want

[exstatic]

if you give up parker for him who is the point guard
manu's best postion is not full time point guard
and barry is to freaking old to be main point guard
Trade Barry for Speedy/JR smith. Run a Speedy/Beno combo.

[strangeweather]

Trade Barry for Speedy/JR smith. Run a Speedy/Beno combo.

I love Speedy as a backup, but isn't he too injury-prone to be reliable as a starter?

[ducks]

speedy has no jumpshot but beno does but pop has no faith in beno


speedy can also not stay healthy
and tp is an allstar who has improved every season since being in the nba for a player who plays in the weak east and putting up good numbers and has postential

I would love smith here but not at the expensive of any one the big three

[johngateswhiteley]

Childress isn't as good as Josh Smith, just more hyped because of the dunk contest. I'd part with Manu or Parker for Smith.

WTF.

[gmanrulz]

u mean smith isnt as good as childress or what?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Josh Smith is a helluve prospect, but he isn't worth any of the Big 3 yet. No way.

What about Rasho for Childress and filler? They'd have to look at that, surely?

[exstatic]

Oz - supposedly, the ATL already nixed a trade for Rasho last year. As for Josh Smith, you gotta buy low and sell high. By the time he blows up, it will take not just ONE of the top 3, but Manu and Tony, or Tim alone to pry him loose.

[V-2]

Josh Smith is definitely what the Spurs need. Problem is that his stats are Tayshaun Prince like, and it's difficult to imagine a team trading such a player (Definitely not by using Barry, or Rasho as tradebaits).
Prince's stats:
14.1PPG, 4.2RPG, 2.3APG, .76SPG, .48BPG, .455FG%, .765FT%, .35 3P%, 35.3MPG
Smith's stats:
11.3ppg, 6.6rpg, 2.4APG, .80SPG, 2.6BPG, .42.5FG%, .719FT%, .309 3P%, 32MPG

[V-2]

Considering that Atlanta will be 20M under the cap and the Hawks may be trading with Phili for AI (season ticket magnet), Spurs should be involved if there's a need of a 3rd team party. John Salmons is another terrific prospect IMO.

[exstatic]

Well, God knows that ATL needs the ticket magnet. When I went to their site to check their roster and stats, the cover page offers lower level season tix for $21 a seat. I repeat: lower level season tix for $21 a seat. Even with all of that young, exciting talent, they can't draw.

[exstatic]

lets trade Nazr for Josh Childress!
:lol Only if Isaiah replaces Billy Knight in their front office.

[TDMVPDPOY]

trade them barry+rasho, what they get is veteran leadership and a big centre and a backup pg.

[ChumpDumper]

Anyone who thinks ATL deals with us before making a play for Iverson really hasn't given this very much thought.

[ChumpDumper]

I could see that.

For Iverson.

They might be a able to raise their ticket prices the following season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

iverson on the hawks hahaha lame, i dont think the young guyz willl like it if they are gettin less touches, if i was the 76s i do the deal but then they have no SG, Iggy and josh are more like the same type of players.

[ChumpDumper]

iverson on the hawks hahaha lame, i dont think the young guyz willl like it if they are gettin less touches, if i was the 76s i do the deal but then they have no SG, Iggy and josh are more like the same type of players.Philly loses the contract and Atlanta puts butts in the seats. Pretty "win-win" if the Sixers get back the right guys,

[TDMVPDPOY]

um i dont think hawks would want a guy on a team that dresses like a thug and could have bad influences on there young core. If i were the hawks try and get KG or sum other bigshot in teh league.

[exstatic]

u dont think they would be interested (seriously)? Nazr is a decent center...all they have is Zaza Pachulia right now...they could part with a 3/4 and keep JSmith, Joe Johnson, and Marvin Williams...and the former stanford star would fit in well with us :tu
Nazr has already had one stop in ATL. They traded him, so no, I don't think they're all that interested in him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

we should make a trade with denver nuggets for najera+demarr johnson
najeras contract doesnt finish untill 06/07 4.1-4.5mill only 07/08 option
Demarr johnson is a F.A and his only earnin the minimum 800k this season

trade barry 4.3mill i think +filler or draft pick.

demarr johnson
Position: SF
Born: 5/05/80
Height: 6-9 / 2,06
Weight: 201 lbs. / 91,2 kg.
College: Cincinnati '03
Quite an athlete even after the car accident... Good mobility and ballhandling skills for his size... Doesn't play much defense... Shaky jumper.

najera
Position: SF
Born: 7/11/76
Height: 6-8 / 2,03
Weight: 235 lbs. / 106,6 kg.
College: Oklahoma '00
Fans love him because he plays with a lot of heart... Will fight for the rebound against bigger players... Good shooting percentages... Can play the three frontcourt spots

[strangeweather]

Nazr has already had one stop in ATL. They traded him, so no, I don't think they're all that interested in him.

OTOH, he was an overlooked backup back then, so it's not impossible that they would reconsider.

[strangeweather]

um i dont think hawks would want a guy on a team that dresses like a thug and could have bad influences on there young core. If i were the hawks try and get KG or sum other bigshot in teh league.

At this point I would think that the Hawks would happily put Al Qaeda members on the court if it would fill the arena.

[MoSpur]

Any of their wing players will be fine with me. Just take Rasho.

[Mavschick]

OTOH, he was an overlooked backup back then, so it's not impossible that they would reconsider.

If there's anything ATL needs aside from a PG, it's a good shot-blocker, rebounder, and defender in the middle. Joel Przybilla will probably be their first FA choice at C over Nazr. He'll probably be the most expensive C on the market because he's superior in the aforementioned facilities to the other FA's C's that'll be out there like Nazr, Nene, Lorenzen Wright etc. plus he's younger, bigger, and more physical than either Nazr or Lorenzen Wright and he's less injury-prone than Nene. ATL definitely has the cap space to afford to shell out a lot for him though.