Pistons vs. Heat Game 4 Blog

[Spurologist]

Must win for the heat

[mavsfan1000]

Must win for the Pistons. Heat can still win this series if they lose this game.

[ALVAREZ6]

Go Pistons!

[Spurologist]

Must win for the Pistons. Heat can still win this series if they lose this game.

If the heat lose, the pistons will cruise to the finals. The heat have to keep the pressure on the pistons.

[mavsfan1000]

The Pistons look like a flat team. Inexcusable considering the importance of this game. Dallas matches up real well with the Heat though I hate the players on the Heat.

[ducks]

chanucy sucks

[Shank]

Are the Pistons coming in as a team that we should just expect to "turn it on" when they feel like it? That never pans out if so. Ask the Colts.

[ducks]

this is starting to tick me off
spurs beat the mavs they would have SWEEPED THE PISTONS(atleast the way they are playing now)

[ducks]

prince is BY FAR THEIR BEST PLAYER

[Shank]

Ducky, are you drunk?

[picnroll]

Pistons look rattled. I think they're dead.

[ducks]

drunk me :oops :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

These aren't the same Pistons. Seriously, I have no idea what happened but this isn't the same team.

They look confused, rattled and just plain done...

[ducks]

these are the pistons that happen to be very tired
since flip ran them into the ground during the regular season


NICE MOVE FLIP
SUCKS

[mavsfan1000]

Once the spurs lost I think the pistons lost all their motivation. :lol

[Spurologist]

Ducky, are you drunk?

Do ducks get drunk? How do they act? Enquiring minds want to know.

[jamezyjamez]

And Big Ben says they have spent too much time working on offense? Scary to think they have improved to the point where they may be able to consistently break 80.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It ain't because they are tired. They look like they just started playing together.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

you cant put it all on Flip. Rashweed looks like a bigger issue, he is doing nothing to help his team

[ducks]

chauncy is playing like a scared little kid

he is the leader of the team and it is carrying over to all the pistons except for prince

[picnroll]

Hamilton whiffs on a gimme. Evns bails them out.

[Shank]

Shaq is still scary.

[Spurologist]

:lmao Shaq with the steal and layup. The world is coming to an end.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Wow, that was impressive Mr. O'Neal...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Billups should get lessons from Shaq, thats how you run the floor and score!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Interestingly enough, the Heat are employing Pop's defensive system of two bigs anchoring the baseline and the perimeter players forcing all penetration to the baseline where the help D can come.

[Shank]

What the hell is going on with the Pistons? Looks like another low-scoring half. Sad.

[ducks]

amazing how bad this piston team is


I Would not want flip to be even an assistant coach on the spurs

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Heat are doing a decent job, but they looked just as bad against the friggen' Cavs.

Flip and offensive genius should never, ever be used in the same sentence again...

[Spurologist]

Question for Aggie. Is Spurtalk your outlet for trying to get an nba coaching gig? You are definately not hurting your chances.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

amazing how bad this piston team is


I Would not want flip to be even an assistant coach on the spurs

its more than Flip

remember Flip lead them to a record number of wins

they just have regressed and look nothing like the regular season Pistons. Thats on Flip but also on the players.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

What the hell is going on with the Pistons? Looks like another low-scoring half. Sad.


That's the million dollar question.

I have no problem with them losing, but damn, at least look like you care...

[ducks]

flip PLAYED HIS PLAYERS TO MUCH

who cares about the most wins you must keep your players fresh and hungry for the playoffs

[Spurologist]

If Shaq gets a title this year, I will put him a couple of notches on my nba best centers ever list.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Shaq stayed in the paint for the entire 24 second clock on that last possession...

[E20]

This doesn't have anything to do with Flip Saunders, I mean COME ON!!!

I see some sloppy and very un-smart moves being made, like Rip stopping in the middle of a jumpshot to pass the ball OVER Shaq. I also see the that the Pistons look shocked and feel have to play with some urgency, which never wins games. They've been missing some easy shots and making bone-headed moves. Pistons have to go in the break calm themselves down and play Detroit basketball.

[mavsfan1000]

In particular Billups was played too much. The point guards wear out the easiest. To me you need a backup point guard to be champions. They had one in Arrojo but now it is all on Billups.

[picnroll]

Delfino must just love being a Piston,

[ducks]

shaq has never won a title with out kobe
and also wade is in a pretty good player too
plus gp

heat will not beat the suns anyhow

[mavsfan1000]

shaq has never won a title with out kobe
and also wade is in a pretty good player too
plus gp

heat will not beat the suns anyhow

Now I know you're drunk. :lol

[jamezyjamez]

Man this Heat team is a joke, too. Basically 2 players with Shaq and DWade. Of course, the Pistons could barely stop ONE player last series...maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

Even Flip looks bored.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

shaq has never won a title with out kobe
and also wade is in a pretty good player too
plus gp

heat will not beat the suns anyhow

:lol you must be dillusional after the Spurs loss

the Suns have been exposed and wont get to the Finals

[Spurologist]

shaq has never won a title with out kobe
and also wade is in a pretty good player too
plus gp

heat will not beat the suns anyhow

As much as I hate the mavs for their need to be gang raped by gorillas owner Mark Cuban, they are clearly better than the suns.

[ducks]

will this year be the year that the redwings and pistons choke in the playoffs?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Yeah, I agree that the Heat aren't playing that well either. The Mavs or Suns would have a 20+ point lead right now..

[strangeweather]

Flip and offensive genius should never, ever be used in the same sentence again...

"Regular season genius"?

Oh come on, you have to be some kind of genius to take a team with KG all the way to the first round of the playoffs every year. :rolleyes

[lilmads]

Delfino must just love being a Piston,

:lol

[Shank]

will this year be the year that the redwings and pistons choke in the playoffs?

...and the Tigers come back down to Earth, too.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Pistons have played like complete ass and are only down 6. Unreal...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

after all that, the Pistons make a run and get back into the game

[jamezyjamez]

I heard next season they are making victories against Eastern teams worth 0.5 in the standings...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

...and the Tigers come back down to Earth, too.


Blasphemy!!!!!*











*They'll probably end up with 85-90 wins and miss out on the WC by a few games...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

The Pistons have played like complete ass and are only down 6. Unreal...


neither team is playing well though. Heat started ok but then slowed

[strangeweather]

...and the Tigers come back down to Earth, too.

Just like the Li... er, nevermind.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Lions? They start out bad and get even worse.

[RON ARTEST]

when the heat were up 14 after the three by posey and hunter answered back with a three of his own, thats what got the pistons right back in it IMO.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

1. Flip played the heart of his rotation way too many minutes in the regular season.

2. Miami is running the same defensive system that the Spurs used to win three titles, and it looks like it may work out for them too.

3. Flip can't figure out how to deal with the middle pick and roll with Wade.

[picnroll]

Middle penetration is the name of the game now. Pistons have no great dribble penetrators.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

This is The Pistons fault for leting the Cavs take them 7 games. They have played way too many games in the last three weeks.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

"That's easy to do if you're allowed to get away with the pushoff..."

Thank you Capt. Obvious...

[Spurologist]

Pistons showing signs

[E20]

Detroit with the lead!!!!! :spin
57-53

[ducks]

give sheed a easy dunk then he he hits a three
amazing

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Pistons actually showed up for a few minutes. Let's see if they can sustain it...

[ShoogarBear]

That was a terrible lob by Walker.

But Heat get the basket and Rasheed gets his 4th.

[strangeweather]

The Pistons actually showed up for a few minutes. Let's see if they can sustain it...

As badly as Miami was taking it to them in the first half, 6 points was a lousy lead. Nice to see the Pistons making them pay for it.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The officials have decided to step in a little bit. Shaq having only one foul is laughable...

[ABDENOUR POWER]

These cheap fouls on the Wallaces are big.

[Spurologist]

:lol Flip cringing with Davis at the line.

[RON ARTEST]

did the announcer just say tippy toes? :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Dale Davis is my new favorite player...

[Spurologist]

Bad foul by Billups.

[strangeweather]

Bad foul by Billups.

Iffy foul too.

[J.T.]

Did the Miami crowd just shout M-V-P when Wade was shooting those FTs? What a crock of shit.

[td4mvp21]

22 PF by the Pistons to 13 by the Heat. Ref you suck?

[ducks]

and people wanted him to be the mvp

[Spurologist]

Iffy foul too.

What are you talking about. That was CLEARLY a foul. Billups raked Wade's left arm on the way up.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Heat staying in it at the line. What a surprise...

[strangeweather]

Did the Miami crowd just shout M-V-P when Wade was shooting those FTs? What a crock of shit.

They're Miami fans. What do you expect from them?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

What are you talking about. That was CLEARLY a foul. Billups raked Wade's left arm on the way up.

The TV angle sucked and it was tough to see. Still, probably a foul...

[RON ARTEST]

GO PISTONS GO! damn it.

[strangeweather]

What are you talking about. That was CLEARLY a foul. Billups raked Wade's left arm on the way up.

I missed it then -- it looked like minimal incidental contact to me.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I missed it then -- it looked like minimal incidental contact to me.


There is no incidental contact on Wade. 99% of the time he gets the call...

[J.T.]

I missed it then -- it looked like minimal incidental contact to me.

Yeah Billups got him on the arm. Good call but at a bad time. Pistons only down 2 with a whole quarter left. They'll pull it out.

[J.T.]

That was a pretty nice finish by Wade but any more landings like that and he may be looking at an injury.

[Spurologist]

Holy shit. I was focused on Mcdyess the whole time on that play and I thought the ball hit the ground but some how it went in. Nice shot.

[ShoogarBear]

Holy crap, what a shot.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Dwade Gets Every Fugging Call Im Sick Of It

[J.T.]

Nice move by Hunter, Pistons could use some more shots like that.

[RON ARTEST]

Dwade Gets Every Fugging Call Im Sick Of It
which is worse as far as getting the most calls? wade or lebron?

[RON ARTEST]

Nice move by Hunter, Pistons could use some more shots like that.
alot more.

[strangeweather]

5 of 13 from the line? Ouch. If the Pistons win, they need to send him a thank you card.

[ducks]

pistons need to go to hack a shaq

[Spurologist]

Now that is a iffy call by Delany. Let players decide the fucking games. There was barely any contact

[resistanze]

What a BS call on Sheed, lol

[RON ARTEST]

why does detroit complain about every fucking call?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

That was a tough call. Ticky tack shit on the Wallaces all night...

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Wow these refs blow. Unbelievable.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

He moved, but every screen in the NBA now is a moving screen. I'd really like to see them either call that every time, or none of the time, cause right now they just sort of pick and choose when to make that call...

[E20]

Because they're obviously getting the bad end of the calls. I clearly see it. :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It's not hard to see, the fouls are 26-15...

[picnroll]

Wade is a career ending injury waiting to happen.

[RON ARTEST]

It's not hard to see, the fouls are 26-15...
thats because the heat go inside. the pistons are a jump shooting team.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

thats because the heat go inside. the pistons are a jump shooting team.


yeh i havent seen more than a handful of posessions when the Pistons have gone inside

[T Park]

Dwayne Wade is just amazing.....

[resistanze]

LMAO at Rip passing up a 3 to Mo!

[J.T.]

Rasheed back in! Time to foul out with some more BS officiating!

BTW Wade is going off...bad news for Detroit if they can't stop him.

[Spurologist]

Hamilton is playing like a scared bitch. He is wide open. He led the league in three point percentage but he passes up the shot.

[Jimcs50]

Miami is killing Detroit!!!!!!!

[Leetonidas]

Miami is killing Detroit!!!!!!!

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

LMAO at Rip passing up a 3 to Mo!
Yeah, WTF?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Wade and Shaq are going to shoot 40 FTs themselves....

[ShoogarBear]

Miami is killing Detroit!!!!!!!
:lol

[T Park]

Dayum, Posey with a dagger 3.

Flipper's collar gettin tight again :lmao

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't understand what Flip is thinking. Guy runs a 3-2 zone that totally shuts down the Miami offense for the entire third quarter and start of the fourth.

Then, up 4, he shucks it and goes man to man. Five minutes later he's down 10 points again.

:lol The guy is as stubborn as Pop.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

i hope Flip owns a fishing store as well
:smokin

[picnroll]

Hamilton has caught Brent Barryitis

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

BTW, Bob Delaney is about the worst official in the league, it's pathetic that he's still calling games this deep in the playoffs.

[Spurologist]

Dayum, Posey with a dagger 3.

Flipper's collar gettin tight again :lmao

:lmao I always mention that. The neck strain seems to especially worsen when he is getting owned by the opposition.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The Heat have almost as many FTs(43) as shot attempts(45)...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'd have to go back and look at it but I'd bet that the home team has averaged 40+ free throws in every game Bob Delaney has reffed.

[Leetonidas]

Less than 3 minutes and a 10 point lead. Pistons are in trouble.

[Leetonidas]

OMG that was not even a foul.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

bye rasheed..........why did u bother suiting up?

[Leetonidas]

OMG that was not even a foul.

Well maybe it was

[texas84]

Sheed doesn't look so cocky when he's on the bench FOULED OUT!

I hope there's a guarantee after this game.

[Leetonidas]

This game is all but over.

[resistanze]

Where's my fork...

[strangeweather]

I think Payton just stuck a fork in this one. Ouch.

[picnroll]

Will Dumars can Flip?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Mavs-Heat finals , called it b4 the playoffs :smokin........

[J.T.]

Shit, Pistons need a miracle to win this now. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

The NBA did the Pistons a diservice imo. They actually let teams play more in the regular season and have seemingly tightened up in the playoffs. If you're going to call it close call it close all year so teams have a chance to adjust.

edit: tho up 14 I don't think you can blame the refs. Just a general observation on the NBA in general.

[RON ARTEST]

Game Over.

[T Park]

Wow huge three by Payton.

Gotta give it up to guys like Payton and James Posey, guys are hitting the shots that guys like Brent Barry couldn't.

[angel_luv]

I just tuned into the game.

Wow the crowd white out looks cool. I want us to black out the AT&T Center next season.

Miami seems to be on a mission. Up 14. Wow.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Wow huge three by Payton.

Gotta give it up to guys like Payton and James Posey, guys are hitting the shots that guys like Brent Barry couldn't.


yeh they are stepping up when it counts.

[T Park]

BTW,

is it just Dwayne Wade stepping up?

How is it Miami is completely outplaying the Pistons this year?


Guess that Larry Brown guy was a better coach than everyone gives him credit for.....

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The NBA did the Pistons a diservice imo. They actually let teams play more in the regular season and have seemingly tightened up in the playoffs. If you're going to call it close call it close all year so teams have a chance to adjust.

Nah, if you are going to call it close, call it close both ways.

[texas84]

Will Dumars can Flip?

No, but just like the Spurs, you can bet Dumars will fill any exposed weaknesses this offseason.

[ducks]

spurs would beat heat
this ticks me off
spurs got a few bounces they would have fucking one the mother fucker title

[E20]

Pistons getting hosed by the refs.

[T Park]

Wow the crowd white out looks cool. I want us to black out the AT&T Center next season.

Gimmicks are not cool.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

I think its time for a bunch of Spurs fans to admit that they underestimated the Heat.

[T Park]

The refs are hosing the Pistons?

:lol

whatever

[T Park]

I think its time for a bunch of Spurs fans to admit that they underestimated the Heat.



Switch Spurs with Pistons there chief :lol

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Will Dumars can Flip?

No, because the Pistons are gonna come back and win the series! :spin

:blah

:depressed

[ducks]

what have the heat done during the regular season vs the good teams
they got pucked by alot of points


pistons are self destructing not heat beating them

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

the refs have nothing to do with the Pistons horrible play.

[angel_luv]

I can't believe Detroit is down 3-1... especially after all they went through last series.

[texas84]

Can we put to rest the "Billups for MVP" discussion?? I haven't seen him step up like an MVP AT ALL this postseason.

[J.T.]

McDyess that FT looked like you have been taking lessons from Shaq, that aint gonna help down by 12.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Switch Spurs with Pistons there chief :lol

Nah I'm actually talking about Spurs fans here .... a bunch of you people kept saying Miami sucked ass and were immensely overrated, blah blah blah. I know many Pistons fans were overconfident too, though. (not me, though, I actually predicted Miami would win the series in 6. I'm such an optimist :spin)

[ducks]

C. Billups
needs 20-25 shots next game

[J.T.]

Wow the crowd white out looks cool. I want us to black out the AT&T Center next season.

Black would be a bad marketing gimmick because it will make the stadium look empty on TV. Silver or grey shirts on the other hand, would be a pretty sweet deal for Spurs fans.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

what have the heat done during the regular season vs the good teams
they got pucked by alot of points


pistons are self destructing not heat beating them

what happened in the regular season counts for nothing now. The #1 and 2 seeds in the regular season will both be out shortly.....


Heat are outplaying the Pistons, plain and simple

[conneaut615]

Is it just me or is Hubie enormously unprofessional tonight. Yelling "bang" on GP's 3? Not cool.

[Brutalis]

Funny shit. The NBA playoffs are like a show now.

[T Park]

The #1 and 2 seeds in the regular season will both be out shortly

Don't discount Phoenix.

They will comeback and win.

[E20]

I'm gonna say that the Pistons win in 7.

[conneaut615]

Flip coached this game like he coached the Twolves.

[ducks]

what happened in the regular season counts for nothing now. The #1 and 2 seeds in the regular season will both be out shortly.....


Heat are outplaying the Pistons, plain and simple
no shit
but it does usually help you decide what should happen in the playoffs

ofcourse nuggets suck in both seasons so

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

?


im talking about the regular season records. Spurs (#2) are out and Pistons (#1) will be out shortly.

Ducks was saying the heat got beat bad in the regular season, i was just saying that means nothing in the playoffs

[picnroll]

What's the over/under on when Cuban starts bitchig about Shaq's play? I've got tomorrow.

[T Park]

Is it just me or is Hubie enormously unprofessional tonight. Yelling "bang" on GP's 3? Not cool.

That was Mike Breem.

Hubie is actually having a good game, very coherent and understandable.

[E20]

Flip coached this game like he coached the Twolves.
Flip went from playing an excellent zone that shut down Wade and the Heat back to playing man-to-man. Moron.

[T Park]

Flip coached this game like he coached the Twolves.

Some things change, others stay the same.

Not surprising what so ever.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

no shit
but it does usually help you decide what should happen in the playoffs

ofcourse nuggets suck in both seasons so


:lol you guys are way too predictable, "the nuggets suck" " the nuggets are fishing " "blah blah"

i already know that, ive said myself that the Nuggets sucked......but i can admit that this season

come up with some new stuff

[Horry For 3!]

Heat up 3-1 now, they'll lose in Detriot but I think they'll close it out at home in Game 6

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How is it Miami is completely outplaying the Pistons this year?


Guess that Larry Brown guy was a better coach than everyone gives him credit for.....

More like Flip Saunders sucks donkey balls.

[strangeweather]

:lol you guys are way too predictable, "the nuggets suck" " the nuggets are fishing " "blah blah"

i already know that, ive said myself that the Nuggets sucked......but i can admit that this season

come up with some new stuff

It's just lame trashing teams that are leagues ahead of yours.

[ducks]

larry did not make the pistons win the title
but he kepted the playoffs fresh and they WERE YOUNGER THEN AND HUNGRY

larry brown if he was a great coach would have stuck with a starting lineup for more then a few games
he gave no guys a chance to know what role they had with the knicks

flip tells his players there roles but he over uses them during the regular season

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Don't discount Phoenix.

They will comeback and win.

It should be fairly obvious by now that it will be Miami - Dallas in the Finals.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

It's just lame trashing teams that are leagues ahead of yours.
so why do u guys trash the Mavs? :smokin

[ducks]

flip is a MAJOR reason they are sucking

[strangeweather]

It should be fairly obvious by now that it will be Miami - Dallas in the Finals.

It's sure looking like it. The Pistons have come back before -- but that was pre-Flip.

[T Park]

It should be fairly obvious by now that it will be Miami - Dallas in the Finals.


Dallas is up 2-1

Phoenix comes back wins the next one its 2-2.

Way too early.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It should be fairly obvious by now that it will be Miami - Dallas in the Finals.

[Spurologist]

Question. Flip is a major problem for the pistons, but aren''t the pistons suppose to be on a mission? To prove they can do it without LB?

[strangeweather]

so why do u guys trash the Mavs? :smokin

LOL -- Walked into that one.

But you won't find me trashing the Mavs. They won that one fair and square.

[T Park]

More like Flip Saunders sucks donkey balls.




cute,

but once again


When will Piston and NBA fan finally admit that Larry Brown was a litle bit more help to the Pistons getting to the Finals.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Pistons in 7!

[picnroll]

so why do u guys trash the Mavs? :smokin

http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/gnome.jpg

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

LOL -- Walked into that one.

But you won't find me trashing the Mavs. They won that one fair and square.

:fro good to see, its hard to see the objective fans on here sometimes :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

When will Piston and NBA fan finally admit that Larry Brown was a litle bit more help to the Pistons getting to the Finals.

The only thing Larry Brown had over Flip Saunders is that Brown actually used his bench during the year instead of playing his starters 42 minutes a night, burning them out by the time the playoffs rolled around.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Question. Flip is a major problem for the pistons, but aren''t the pistons suppose to be on a mission? To prove they can do it without LB?


Sometime in G2 of the Cavs series, they lost their edge and have since struggled to find it.


Right now, they have no identity and are playing like it...

[Spurologist]

so why do u guys trash the Mavs? :smokin

because Mark Cuban has yet to attend his reservation for 10 with gang raping gorillas.

[ShoogarBear]

:lol you guys are way too predictable, "the nuggets suck" " the nuggets are fishing " "blah blah"

i already know that, ive said myself that the Nuggets sucked......but i can admit that this season

come up with some new stuff
Okay.

Nuggets will suck next season, too. :spin

[DubMcDub]

Don't discount Phoenix.

They will comeback and win.

You're so bitter you can't even make predictions without letting your emotions get in the way of better judgment :lol :lol :lol.

Classic.

[T Park]

The only thing Larry Brown had over Flip Saunders is that Brown actually used his bench during the year instead of playing his starters 42 minutes a night, burning them out by the time the playoffs rolled around.



That and actually coaching 2 different teams to the Finals 3 times combined.

[T Park]

You're so bitter you can't even make predictions without letting your emotions get in the way of better judgment


touchy are we...


WTF are you still doing here, be gone troll.

[resistanze]

I left the country last season the day the ECF started. I predicted Pistons in 7 and Spurs in 6 (off by 1!) and I was dying to see the finals.

Couldn't get the games where I was at but I watched BBC news, where they only reported every other fuckin' game of the finals, and I knew I missed a good one. So selfishly, I wanted to see a rematch this year, but after the Spurs got out, I'd rather see something completely new.

[adidas11]

What I think is wrong with the Pistons is the same thing that has been going on with them this season, and last season. The Pistons are a solid team...not a great team. But unfortunately, they don't seem to realize that. It's like what a sports writer said during the Cleveland series. The Pistons are not as good as they THINK they are. And it has shown during the past two seasons in their play. They have come to THINK that they are this offensively diverse team, when that is far from the truth.

They were a lot more dangerous when they accepted that they are a mediocre offensive team, and relied on hustle and defense. And it's like I've said before. It's a lot easier to win a title when no one expects you to win, rather than being the one with a target on your back. Great teams win when everyone is gunning for them.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It was discussed on local radio: The Pistons are a flawed champion/team...

[picnroll]

So would this be the first team to have four guys play on the same all-star team and not win a championship?

[adidas11]

So would this be the first team to have four guys play on the same all-star team and not win a championship?

No. The 1997-1998 Los Angeles Lakers had 4 All Stars, but lost in the WCF 1998 to the Utah Jazz. (Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel)

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

And the one guy who didn't go has been the most consistent of them all. Frustrating indeed...

[dknights411]

I'm just curious to know what off-season moves the Pistons will make this summer, win or lose.

[T Park]

Yeah Tay is playing his boney ass off.

Mo Evans is campaigning for more time as well.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

That and actually coaching 2 different teams to the Finals 3 times combined.

So what's your point? They're both overrated coaches.

[picnroll]

Why is Delfino getting zero playing time? How about Beno for Delfino?

[T Park]

So what's your point? They're both overrated coaches

:rolleyes


Lord, does ANY coach match up to your standards?? :lol

[T Park]

How about Beno for Delfino?

gawd

Joe D aint that stupid.

Would be nice though.

[spurs_in_7]

the pistons fluke is over

[DarkReign]

Well, I havent seen this team dominated in 3 years. They may have ended up losing, but were never dominated.

They are being completely dominated. Its disgusting.

I stopped caring in the Cleveland series because it was obvious the players didnt anymore. So cocky and over-confident, they think because they showed up, they win.

Yeah...whoooops! Bet that Darko pick is looking reeeeeeal good again. CB4? DWade? Nah...take the 7 foot whiteboy who can barely play.

Anyway, I hope the Pistons do themselves a favor and lose it in 5. No reason to make anyone hope you fuckers have any heart whatsoever.

2 biggest choke jobs ever....Wings of 06 and Pistons of 06.

Go Detroit.

[MadDog73]

:rolleyes


Lord, does ANY coach match up to your standards?? :lol


Aggie feels he'd be better than any coach in the NBA.




2 biggest choke jobs ever....Wings of 06 and Pistons of 06.

Go Detroit.

What's worse, being down 3-1 and losing, or being up 2-0 and losing 4 straight to the LAKERS. :madrun (Spurs in '04)

[DarkReign]

Aggie feels he'd be better than any coach in the NBA.




What's worse, being down 3-1 and losing, or being up 2-0 and losing 4 straight to the LAKERS. :madrun (Spurs in '04)

Were the Lakers and 8 seed? Then the Wings gotcha beat.

Also, the Lakers were going for 4 in a row. No offense, losing to that team isnt exactly something to hang your head about. One of the all-time greatest.

[MadDog73]

Were the Lakers and 8 seed? Then the Wings gotcha beat. True that.



Also, the Lakers were going for 4 in a row. No offense, losing to that team isnt exactly something to hang your head about. One of the all-time greatest.

Yet, somehow a bunch of "scrubs" called the Pistons beat them in 5.

No offense, but the Spurs should have beat the Lakers that year... then lost to the Pistons! :lol

[DarkReign]

Yet, somehow a bunch of "scrubs" called the Pistons beat them in 5.

No offense, but the Spurs should have beat the Lakers that year... then lost to the Pistons! :lol

Lakers did not take Detroit seriously. By the time the Lakers decided to play, it was too late.

LA knew SA was for real and that they needed to play at a high level all series to win. Especially after being down 0-2.

I know that had to be a heart-breaker...Im just saying....that Laker team was all-time awesome that decided to sleepwalk thru the Finals. Pistons took full advantage.

Thats what baffles me about this current series....is DWade better than Kobe? Is Shaq 06 better than Shaq 04? Is the rest of the Miami team better than that Lakers squad? No, no and nope.

Whats the difference? My opinion, desire. Detroit has had something to prove every year, except this one. Seems they lack the desire.

[MadDog73]

Whats the difference? My opinion, desire. Detroit has had something to prove every year, except this one. Seems they lack the desire.


I'm with you there. And it's hard to come with the same intensity every year.

That's why I'm not giving up on the Spurs. Say the Mavs win it all this year... that will just make it even tougher for them to win next year. And the Spurs will have something to prove.

Much like the Pistons vs the Heat (if the Pistons lose this series...)

[iamme]

Detroit has had something to prove every year, except this one. Seems they lack the desire.

eh?

what about Game 7 vs the Spurs last season? or Horry's 3 pointer last season? or retaking what they "lost"? proving that it was the players that won, not LB? that's all we heard about this season.

don't tell me the desire isn't there. you're telling me that they suddenly don't feel like winning anymore?

[MadDog73]

It's too early to count the Pistons out... but if they do go out, you know everyone is going to blame Flip!

[Mavs<Spurs]

I'm saying Pistons-Suns !!! :lol But that's just my heart.

On the other hand, if I bet (and I don't other than vbookie), then I would certainly not bet on Phoenix and while I have hope for the Pistons, it is a hope mixed with fear.

Phoenix is going back to Dallas down 3-1, with the last game in Dallas, game 5. How are they going to come back down 4-1?



The best they could have done even with a healthy Raja Bell is split the 2 home games and go to Dallas tied 2-2. The Suns will have to play their very best to win game 4 and I don't think that they can do it at all. That leaves them down 3-1 heading to Dallas. Game 5 in Dallas = loss by 30 points. Then, time to join us Spurs fishing without a pole.

Suns without energy < Knicks!!! and that's tough to write and prior to the last 2 games, hard to imagine since the Knicks used to be the worst team in the NBA (now elevated to the second worst team thanks to the effortless Suns). Go Knicks!!!

Go Spurs!!!
Go Pistons!!!


Else,
Go Heat!!!

Go to .... Mavericks!!!

[DarkReign]

eh?

what about Game 7 vs the Spurs last season? or Horry's 3 pointer last season? or retaking what they "lost"? proving that it was the players that won, not LB? that's all we heard about this season.

don't tell me the desire isn't there. you're telling me that they suddenly don't feel like winning anymore?

I meant accomplishment wise. Yes, this team looks very bored and lacksidasical. They worked hard all year for home court and this, THIS is the fucking effort?! A 7-game series with some upstart bullshit Cavs team, into a 3-1 hole against Fat Daddy and Boy Wonder? Pffft...

You know, the Lakers at least had the fucking common sense to not get too full of themselves until after they 3-peated. This Piston team had the audacity after one fucking Championship, 1 game 7 loss for a back-to-back and one great regular season! The Lakers were in their 4th finals in 4 years before they said "Fuck it, lets put it on cruise control, we dont like each other anyway..."

And even worse....The fucking Pistons are acting like the Lakers!

All this blaming between coaches and players, BWallace this, RWallace that, Tayshaun going on about subsitutions, etc. The only person keeping their mouth shut is Rip, and I would too if I were 4-14 from the field and making Zildranisissss Ilgaukaskajasaasss look like Mutumbo having 6 blocks in the first half, 4 of which came on Rip.

Piss poor effort, Piss poor coaching, Piss poor players. Since when did this team devolve to a point where BWallace became a liability? Is that Big Bens fault? I have hard time blaming him.