Pistons @ Heat, Game 6

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Discuss.

[mavsfan1000]

Am I the only one that feels like the Heat are going to choke at home tonight? They did it last year so maybe it happens again.

[bulletedge]

I don't know about choking but I hope the Pistons win 'cause if the Mavs make it to the Finals I think they match up better with them than with the Heat.

Mavs have no answer for Shaq...you can't "Hack-A-Shaq" for 48 minutes. Especially now that Mbenga's 6 fouls wouldn't be available for the first few games.

[mavsfan1000]

I disagree. Dallas matches up better with Miami. The main thing is Miami has no one to guard Dirk, Howard, and Terry. Dallas should be scoring at will and Dallas can throw Diop and Dampier at Shaq. Wade is a beast though but Dallas can throw Adrian Griffin at him and funnel him toward Diop.

[DDS4]

Just a hunch....Heat will close it out tonight.

[Bob Lanier]

Javie and Eddie F Rush along with Callahan. Rush is a Piston-killer, and Javie's on a perpetual power trip. Pick up your technicals early!

Williams is blowing by Billups already. And Prince a wide-open airball, Peja-style. :depressed

But Chauncey's running the offense as well as he has in months tonight.

Ben makes a pair at the line? In-fucking-credible. :fro

[Spurologist]

The heat slugs keeping them in it

[DDS4]

Not a good start for the Pistons.

[Budkin]

Heat are on, uh... fire.

[ducks]

heat missed 2 shots
they must cool off

[Bob Lanier]

The offense looks great. The defense looks absolutely terrible. Unless Flop can adjust the way Billups is handling the pick-and-roll defense, we're going to have huge problems.

Prince is shrivelling, and I really wish Dale Davis would get into the game for Ben.

[Bob Lanier]

25-20 Miami after 1. That's not bad.

I really shouldn't have to take dramamine to watch a basketball game. One camera angle would be more than adequate.

[ducks]

not bad beign down 5 with heat not missing

33% is not going to cut itilead could be only one had huner bade that layup and ben make that shot though

[Spurologist]

Ben worth in the game so far is ZERO because he isn't getting any offen. rebounds or affecting any shots on defense.

[Spurologist]

Hubie = Pistons' nut sack holder

[ducks]

wade is playign liek crap he should be taken out asp

[Bob Lanier]

Hubie = Pistons' nut sack holder
You didn't listen to him in the Cleveland series, did you? If this is "nutsack holding", I'd probably be banned for describing what he was doing to LeBron James.

Good god Dice. A turnover and a fumble...

Dice+Sheed is doing a better job defending Shaq than Ben is, though.

[resistanze]

Maybe the Pistons want a vacation?

[Spurologist]

You didn't listen to him in the Cleveland series, did you? If this is "nutsack holding", I'd probably be banned for describing what he was doing to LeBron James.

Good god Dice. A turnover and a fumble...

Dice+Sheed is doing a better job defending Shaq than Ben is, though.

:lol He encourages Ben when he went to the line. When he made both, Hubie was jumping with jubilation. "There you go"

Then when Jwill kept driving and making layups in the first, he sounded upset. "You can't let that happen"

Then a graphic was shown that in this series, the team that had a first quarter lead is 5-0. "You can throw those percentages out the window" That is true but his expression is clearly for the pistons

[Bob Lanier]

Oh, I realize that Hubie's a Pistons fan. But it mostly balances out with Mike Breen's sanctimonious disapproval.

Evans+Ben = 3 on 5 offense for Detroit - were it not for Shaq's ridiculously slow pick-and-roll defense. Wade completely ignoring Mo Evans in the corner and shadowing the ballhandler 20 feet away from him is a sight to behold.

[Spurologist]

The pistons worst nightmare = Jason Williams is on FIRE

That probably happens once every 25 games

[Bob Lanier]

It's not like he's hitting contested shots, though.

Billups has never been able to guard him.

Speaking of Billups - why is he in the game instead of Hunter?!

[resistanze]

59% to 30% in FGs. Ouch.

[2centsworth]

Shaq is back and incredibly Gary Payton is playing a little D.

[Bob Lanier]

47-36 Heat at halftime.

Ben Wallace has been a complete non-factor, but has still managed to play most of the game.
Rasheed Wallace has been fronted, which completely confuses the guards, and has missed a couple of easy shots.
Tayshaun Prince has been a complete non-factor, but has still managed to play most of the game due to Mo Evans being ludicrously ineffective.
Rip Hamilton is dribbling.
Chauncey Billups has been outplayed by Lindsey Hunter once again.
Dice hasn't touched the ball.

I hope they enjoy fishing.

[Nocioni]

27 rebound to 14

[2centsworth]

47-36 Heat at halftime.

Ben Wallace has been a complete non-factor, but has still managed to play most of the game.
Rasheed Wallace has been fronted, which completely confuses the guards, and has missed a couple of easy shots.
Tayshaun Prince has been a complete non-factor, but has still managed to play most of the game due to Mo Evans being ludicrously ineffective.
Rip Hamilton is dribbling.
Chauncey Billups has been outplayed by Lindsey Hunter once again.
Dice hasn't touched the ball.

I hope they enjoy fishing.
whatever happened to the terrific ball movement they had during the regular season?

[SA Gunslinger]

Sorry, Piston Fans. It doesn't look good. Hope you guys make a comeback in the 2nd half.

[2centsworth]

Shaq is BACK!

UTHO, no Wade.

[angel_luv]

Pistons letting Shaq have his way. Where is their D?

[angel_luv]

Hey where is Piston<Spurs? :(

[2centsworth]

Pistons letting Shaq have his way. Where is their D?
when Shaq is healthy there is very little you can do.

[Spurologist]

The pistons worst nightmare = Jason Williams is on FIRE

That probably happens once every 25 games

[boutons_]

Damn, the Pistons shooting 30% vs 56% reminds me of the Spurs vs Lakers in 04 playoffs.

[Budkin]

I can't believe the Pistons are this far behind with Wade not even playing.... damn.

[Spurologist]

:lmao Did Hubie Brown just say, "it sounds so corny"

[angel_luv]

Shaq hitting free throws too?

[angel_luv]

Pistons don't have their usual stroke to their shots. They seem tired.

[angel_luv]

That was nicely done by Jason.

[angel_luv]

Darn and he was wide open!

[angel_luv]

Gosh Billups!

[angel_luv]

7-7 from the field! Wow Jason!

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

the pistons are so free on offense


they arent restricted by larry browns offense

[RON ARTEST]

game over if the pistons dont make a little run here.

[Bob Lanier]

MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2005/06/05/bc.bkn.spurswait.ap/p1_billups3.jpg :elephant

OK - they don't care, so why should I? Instead, I'm enjoying this. :drunk

[Cant_Be_Faded]

the pistons are so free on offense


they arent restricted by larry browns offense


:lmao

rack i said

[angel_luv]

I think the refs have slighted the Pistons on several calls- keep in mind I am not rooting for anyone in particular.

[angel_luv]

Holy cow Jason!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think they've also cracked down on Shaq placing his arm on another big man
which is funny
cuz its the complete opposite of how they used to call Shaq when he was in the West with the big boyz.

Shaq can't even touch a Wallace.

[Spurologist]

The pistons worst nightmare = Jason Williams is on FIRE

That probably happens once every 25 games

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Det is freestroking

[Bob Lanier]

MVP! :lol

Hey Flip - do you mind? I'd kind of like to see Lindsey, Delfino, and Davis, maybe for the last time in Pistons uniforms.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Why would Wade take that sick ultra fade away instead of hooking up Williams for a wide open three?

Selfish if you ask me.

[DDS4]

Jeebus. Can't buy a bucket/free throw.

[picnroll]

Who are these guys that stole the Pistons' uniforms?

[Budkin]

Man what the hell is wrong with the Pistons?

[Budkin]

Looks like Miami is Finals bound unless the Pistons make some kind of miracle run in the 4th.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If I didn't know any better, I would say the Pistons are CHOKCHOKCHOKING


Hamilton missing wide open jumpers? Billups missing layups?

Choke

[Mavtek]

Jesus what did Detroit get out of that Arroyo and Darko trade again? Jesus Christ if they were counting on Delk for anything more than sucking they're screwed.

God I'd love to see Arroyo out there about now, he could keep up with Jwill and at least set up some guys for good shots on the other end. Damn, I can't believe how shitty Detroit looks.

[Spurologist]

WADE is the fucking truth

[DDS4]

Looks like a team that's worn and battered.

[Budkin]

Man this makes our loss to Dallas that much more painful... I feel like we could have beaten those guys in 6.

[DDS4]

Oh my god. He's not human.

[angel_luv]

Miami on a Mission.

[picnroll]

If Mavs advance this will be the first time in my life I'll be rooting for Shaq.

Wade out MJing MJ.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Damn Dwade is fucking off the heeze for cheeze

[angel_luv]

Wow and this is Wade with the flu!

[2centsworth]

Man this makes our loss to Dallas that much more painful... I feel like we could have beaten those guys in 6.
what guys?

Heat Baby!

[angel_luv]

If Mavs advance this will be the first time in my life I'll be rooting for Shaq.

Wade out MJing MJ.


Ditto. Whoever comes out in the East is my back up plan.

I am still really pulling for the Suns.

[Slinkyman]

If Mavs advance this will be the first time in my life I'll be rooting for Shaq.

Wade out MJing MJ.

Same here, don't like Shaq but Wade is amazing. Heat in 6 :smokin

[DDS4]

Man this makes our loss to Dallas that much more painful... I feel like we could have beaten those guys in 6.


Spurs match up better with the Eastern Conference than the West.

[picnroll]

I wonder what hurts worse Pistons getting blown out sucking or Spurs getting edged and jobbed. I go with edged and jobbed.

[Marklar MM]

Oh well. The Pistons suck. Good luck to whoever wants it in the Finals.

[Budkin]

what guys?

Heat Baby!

Well I meant the Heat, but yes, I will be rooting for Shaq again. I haven't done that since he was on the Magic in 1996, when I lived in Orlando.

[efrem1]

Well, it looks as if there will be a first time champ when all is said and done. It doesn't look good for Detroit.

[Spurologist]

Wade gets mugged by Rip and Hunter and pulls out the fadeaway as Rip falls to the ground. unbelievable

[Bob Lanier]

Wade is dying!

Wade came back to the game against his doctors' advice!

Wade underwent a splenectomy at halftime!

Yawn. Keep it up, Miami - hopefully we've seen the last of Chauncey Billups's smirking face in a Pistons uniform. If Detroit gets too close, we'll have to see the starters again...

[Marklar MM]

I ain't watching. Is Miami up 30 yet.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

One thing i have noticed about Dwade, does he always score in spurts like this? Every time I see him score its always in a cluster, like he has to score 10 points in a row, or he doesn't score at all.

[2centsworth]

Oh well. The Pistons suck. Good luck to whoever wants it in the Finals.
Pistons don't suck, it's their coach is a little weak, but more Shaq is healthy this year.

Heat beat the Pistons last year is Shaq has more than 1 leg IMO.

[angel_luv]

They are up 20

[picnroll]

Hey Bob Lanier love the name. As a kid I use to watch Lanier play for the Bonnies in the Armory and Bonnies Center. Classic duels with Niagra and Calvin Murphy.

[Marklar MM]

Pistons don't suck, it's their coach is a little weak, but more Shaq is healthy this year.

Heat beat the Pistons last year is Shaq has more than 1 leg IMO.


We can't hit shit...we suck. The coach sucks. I have this to say though. Billups or B.Wallace...that is Dumars choice right there. Both are going to want max contracts. Flip's job is not in jeopardy...I will tell that right now. But either Wallace or Billups will not be here in 2 years. The team may have neither.

[angel_luv]

Miami can't miss, it seems.

[Marklar MM]

Miami can't miss, it seems.

Because the Pistons suck at defense.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

No miami is hotttt right now, they can taste that victory

detroit can still win though, they're not going out without a fight
hamilton has the hunger in his eyes

[Spurologist]

Rip keeping the pistons off life support at the moment. Nevermind. He is the life support

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Let us not forget that Dwade had a cracked rib last postseason and it still took the Pistons 7 games to dispose of this heat team...

[efrem1]

Got to pull it within 10 within the next 4 minutes or it's over.

[angel_luv]

Awww! That Finals commercial!

I miss the boys!!!!!!! :(

[Spurologist]

Damn. Those MJ moments still give me chills.

[angel_luv]

Here come the Pistons

[angel_luv]

I am going to root for them.

[boutons_]

ok, come on, Pistons, -12 with 8 minutes.
hit some shots, make some stops,
I hate to see ya'll go down with such a horrible game.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

definitely not over

hamilton is free stroking it

[angel_luv]

Pistons need to take advantage of some of these Heat errors

[angel_luv]

Oh vey Pistons!

[Bob Lanier]

But either Wallace or Billups will not be here in 2 years. The team may have neither.
Wallace has already left. In fact, I'm not even sure he was on the court tonight.

As for Billups - MVP! MVP! MVP!

[efrem1]

definitely not over



Definitely over now :depressed

[Cant_Be_Faded]

But he's soooo good defensively!!!

[picnroll]

Ben's new contract just dropped a few million this series.

[Spurologist]

Every time the pistons have had a chance to get close, Shaq has denied access. Pat Riley just might be validating his hall of fame standing. The only problems I have with the heat advancing is it justifies the dismissal of coach Ron Jeremy.

[picnroll]

10 for 10?????

[picnroll]

Goodnight Irene

[Spurologist]

G
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[Spurologist]

:lol Hubie is speechless

[Bob Lanier]

Fuck you J-Will - you let MVP get a stop.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1402/flipfear4la.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Detroit needs to go into Chauncey Billups Three Mode. Just have Chauncey shoot a three every single time down the floor, without passing it to anyone else. It worked against the Spurs flawlessly, and he pulled it off in the reg season. Why not now?

[Spurologist]

10 for 10?????


The pistons worst nightmare = Jason Williams is on FIRE

That probably happens once every 25 games

[Spurologist]

So is FLIP on the OUT

[Pistons < Spurs]

So is FLIP on the OUT


Absolutely not.










However, Ben may not be back.........

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Detroit needs to go into Chauncey Billups Three Mode. Just have Chauncey shoot a three every single time down the floor, without passing it to anyone else. It worked against the Spurs flawlessly, and he pulled it off in the reg season. Why not now?

[Bob Lanier]

So is FLIP on the OUT
Hell no. Davidson is too cheap to fire him.

Dwyane Wade is "blossoming", according to Mike Breen. :lol

[angel_luv]

Absolutely not.










However, Ben may not be back.........

There you are!
I am sorry about this game, Pistons! :(

[jochhejaam]

6 lb test line or 8 lb test line for walleye?

[Pistons < Spurs]

There you are!
I am sorry about this game, Pistons! :(
:depressed me tooooooo...............

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Every time the pistons have had a chance to get close, Shaq has denied access. Pat Riley just might be validating his hall of fame standing. The only problems I have with the heat advancing is it justifies the dismissal of coach Ron Jeremy.


:lmao
i knew that dude reminded me of someone

[jochhejaam]

There you are!
I am sorry about this game, Pistons! :(
Thanks and your support was appreciated.

[Bob Lanier]

26-38.

Oh well.

What a screech from Fatoine! :lol

[angel_luv]

Thanks and your support was appreciated.


It was the least I could do. You guys have been great to us.

I don't really like your team :oops but you guys rock enough for me to root for them. :)

[Pistons < Spurs]

Congrats to Miami.

[Pistons < Spurs]

I don't really like your team :oops



lol don't lie! we all know you are a closet Piston fan!! :spin

[efrem1]

Hope you have a good summer Pistons < SPurs :( I think I will go to the Grand Canyon in a few weeks.

[angel_luv]

Wow- first time in franchise history!

[angel_luv]

lol don't lie! we all know you are a closet Piston fan!! :spin


No silly, that is you with the Spurs. :lol

[angel_luv]

Speak up Shaq.

[angel_luv]

Shaq mumbles.

[Horry For 3!]

It was only fitting that if Spurs lost then Pistons lost.....


Shall they meet next year :tu

[angel_luv]

Oh no!!!!!!!! Poor 1Parker1. I had her almost cheered up too.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Hope you have a good summer Pistons < SPurs :( I think I will go to the Grand Canyon in a few weeks.
:tu :tu Enjoy the Grand Canyon! Let me know if you find a good spot for me to either jump off from, or to go fishing!

Oh well, time to look forward to next year I guess..... :depressed

Anyone got some Kleenex?

[Marklar MM]

6 lb test line or 8 lb test line for walleye?

6 lb test would leave you with a better fish fight...use a light pole for added fun.

[picnroll]

Cuban will complain to the league office about Shaq in 3..... 2.....1

[angel_luv]

No Stern? Nice !

[Pero]

Fucking Pistons, how the hell could Miami beat them in 6? If it were in 7 ok, but 6? Fucking pussies. Now I`ll have to cheer for Dallas or Phoenix in the finals.

[angel_luv]

Congrats Wade. Congrats Jason Williams.
:)

[jochhejaam]

Congrats to the Heat. (Go Mavs)

[Pistons < Spurs]

Phoenix had better win, because there is no way I can see myself rooting for either Miami or Dallas. They are my 2 least favorite teams in the L.

[angel_luv]

Go Phoenix! or ( if they can't make it) Sigh... Go Heat.

[rayray2k8]

Its cool piston fans, we saved ya'll a fishing pole for ya! :lol

[angel_luv]

Wade is a good guy. I am truly happy for him. :)

[Spurologist]

:lol I normally wouldn't do something like this but....

There's still some room on the boat pistons fans. Get your fishing gear together.

[rayray2k8]

Spurs and Piston fans..
Take a step back and look at whats happening.
2 teams are going in the finals for the FIRST time!!
Remember how that felt?
Man..
What a great feeling.
Even better when you win a title.
You really appreciate what your team has done for you in the past when you think about it.

I say we all get wasted !! :elephant
This Buds for you! :drunk

For me though..
Its miller time. :drunk :fro

[angel_luv]

Ewww Hubie Brown.

[angel_luv]

I could have done without seeing Riley with that trophy. But then again I am not a Flip fan either.

Go Suns!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pistons < Spurs]

Wade is a good guy. I am truly happy for him. :)
:vomit:

[angel_luv]

Why is Flip so red in this footage???!!>

[Spurologist]

The pistons were playing great when they were holding on to their last breathes late in the 4th quarter. Why couldn't they play with the same kind of desperation earlier in the game.

uhhhhh. Flip is available for comment right now. Turn your tvs up.

[angel_luv]

Is anyone else seeing a sun burned looking Flip?

[Spurologist]

Why is Flip so red in this footage???!!>

Don't tell me he was crying. Redness on your face precipitates that. :oops

[Burn531]

Why is Flip so red in this footage???!!>

Embarrased.

[Marklar MM]

The pistons were playing great when they were holding on to their last breathes late in the 4th quarter. Why couldn't they play with the same kind of desperation earlier in the game.

uhhhhh. Flip is available for comment right now. Turn your tvs up.


Because they suck.

[Bob Lanier]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7092/fishin0qp.jpg

[angel_luv]

I think it is crummy camera footage- although his skin is still sort of red.

[Marklar MM]

Why is Flip so red in this footage???!!>


"Fuck...I got to go back to Detroit and get pelted by rotten tomatoes. Maybe I can just go to Minnesota right now."

[Spurologist]

I think it is crummy camera footage- although his skin is still sort of red.

he was crying

[angel_luv]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7092/fishin0qp.jpg


hahahaha

Flip looks hilarious.

[angel_luv]

he was crying


nuh-uh! really?

[angel_luv]

Oh look at the Larry O Brien trophy.... my preeeeeeeeeecious! :(

[SA Gunslinger]

Condolences to the Pistons.

[PistonsFan]

Why is Flip so red in this footage???!!>
OMG i know! but then they changed the lighting and made it normaler.

[Spurologist]

:tu Prince with a gracious interview with Jim Gray

[Spurologist]

nuh-uh! really?

my opinion is he cried as soon as his team lost when he was in the locker room. His face was bright red. He wiped the tears off his face and went to the post game conference. Just my theory.

[spurster]

I would agree that a healthy Shaq and Wade are the biggest differences in this series compared to last year's.

[Crookshanks]

So sorry Piston's fans - I really feel your pain. I'm just now getting over the pain and bitterness of the Spurs untimely exit.

Really, I think this is the end of an era in the NBA. The Spurs and Pistons were built on the premise that "defense wins championships" and they acquired the guys necessary to beat the powerhouses of years past. Now, it's all about offense and running and jacking up shots. Not as much finesse or fundamentals, if you ask me.

It will be interesting to see what the Spurs and Pistons do in the offseason and how they build for the "new" NBA.

[Vashner]

LOL Shaq...

Avery better win now...

[JamStone]

Pistons are loser for this season. Miami was the better team.

It sucks.

But, that's how pro sports is ... heartbreak for 97% of the league. Absolute jubilation for 3%.

Pistons were bad. They played horribly for much of the playoffs. Heat deserved to win.

Congrats, Heat.

[boutons_]

Sad to see the Pistons shoot so poorly and be so uncompetitive when their offense was so productive all season.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

If anyone's gonna win another Title...it better be (ulp) Shaq...but I think Dirk might just go all the way.

Possible scenarios:

Shaq 4 Rings, 4th Final MVP?? or possibly (if Wade performs like he did in this series) Wade First Finals MVP (Laughs @ Kobe who couldn't just wait a couple years to evolve into 1st option)

Dirk 1st Finals Appearance, 1st Ring, 1st Final MVP

Unlikely scenario :

Nash 1st Finals Appearance

Nash 1st Finals Appearance, 1st Ring, 1st Finals MVP

[Marklar MM]

Sad to see the Pistons shoot so poorly and be so uncompetitive when their offense was so productive all season.


They figured out the offense...run a zone all day. No one wants to go to the post.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Sad to see the Pistons shoot so poorly and be so uncompetitive when their offense was so productive all season.
I think the Pistons got cocky. They always had that swagger but it was as a group; I noticed they kept trying to go one on one at times and only played Detroit Basketball when they fell behind....

Probably because they realized their true playoff leader was missing, and showed little confidence in the new guy who couldn't keep them tight as a cohesive unit like Larry Brown did. Sucks because when they're all playing as the 5-unit team, they're basically unbeatable. Especially with their Offensive-Defensive edge. Pistons could have made this series more competitive than it really was. Last year they took the Heat to 7 games. This year that sense of entitlement off their 64 win Season-And knowing they were the best team in the league, killed them.

[Bob Lanier]

my opinion is he cried as soon as his team lost when he was in the locker room. His face was bright red. He wiped the tears off his face and went to the post game conference. Just my theory.
No - his face was clearly very red in the in-game photos as well. It was a sunburn.

The asshole found some time on the beach yesterday, it seems.

[Pistons < Spurs]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2623/detfish17dy.jpg

[~Sweetmelody~]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2623/detfish17dy.jpg



awww that stinks!

:lol

[efrem1]

If Dallas and Miami play, they will play all of the games at American Airlines Arena. :spin

[mffl89]

If Dallas and Miami play, they will play all of the games at American Airlines Arena. :spin

mavs play at the American Airlines Center

[bdubya]

No - his face was clearly very red in the in-game photos as well. It was a sunburn.

The asshole found some time on the beach yesterday, it seems.

Jeez, man...it's Miami in June. One long outdoor lunch'll do that to you if you're coming off a midwestern spring.

[1Parker1]

Phoenix had better win, because there is no way I can see myself rooting for either Miami or Dallas. They are my 2 least favorite teams in the L.

Seriously, it's so pathetic, I want to cry and mourn what has become of the NBA...

[mavsfan1000]

Pistons don't have a low post prescence or a go to guy. Billups proved he wasn't one in this series and they lost. Miami just shoots too high of a percentage with Wade and Shaq.

[pussyface]

detroit was very fortunate to beat these guys last year.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah Detroit needed Wade and Shaq to be injured again to win this series. Unfortunately that is what they depended on with the Heat and Lakers or the past 2 years and even Indiana.

[DarkReign]

Absolutely pathetic. I have been away on purpose.

What a fucking joke.

Big props to Miami.