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kris
06-03-2006, 03:35 AM
Last night I witnessed Kori take down a massive 42 man tournament at Martini Ranch (just inside 410 on West Avenue). I think the tournament was sponsored by Bar Poker. Whitney, myself, and LJ all were ousted but Kori ended up easily winning a final 3 showdown as the shortstack. The number 1 chip holder who had moved to the table had double her going in to the final rounds, but Kori beat both chip favorites without ever being pushed to the brink of elimination.

The sole first place prize as it turns out will be retroactive for some technical reason that I never understood. However, what was apparent was that by winning the tournament Kori got major points towards a Texas championship poker tournament and towards 1 of 4 spots in the World Series of Poker.

It's not that far fetched that Kori gets one of those if she plays in enough outside tournaments. Like I propheted a few days ago, Kori is the real deal.


First outside (commerical) tournament.
42 players total.
1 winner.
Winner takes all.
Kori.

Damn - well at least I know I choose a good playing style to model after.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 03:39 AM
Kris is my #1 fan. :lol

I knew when I got to the final 3 that I was going to win even though I had the least chips. Playing 40-some people is ridiculously fun.

I think that's my 8th trophy, Kris. :)

kris
06-03-2006, 03:42 AM
I was going to say it's because you weren't at the same table as me, but you were.

So I'm just going to shut up and be your apprentice.

Congratulations you school yard bully.

KEDA
06-03-2006, 07:40 AM
Phil Helmuth = Kori's bitch


Kori has ice in her veins, this lady is stone fucking cold man, if you play across from her, I feel for ya.

angel_luv
06-03-2006, 08:45 AM
Well done Kori. :)

:gpower

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-03-2006, 08:47 AM
Nice.

Go Kori!

scott
06-03-2006, 10:08 AM
Domination thy name is Kori

SpursWoman
06-03-2006, 10:45 AM
WTG, Kori! :lol

usckk
06-03-2006, 11:37 AM
Dude!

Mr Dio
06-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Awesome & CONGRATS!

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 01:29 PM
Thanks.

I usually don't play outside house games. I don't really enjoy the crowded tables with people smoking all over you at these bar things. But hey ... it's free to enter.

I got up early and knocked out the absolutely most obnoxious poster player that I've ever been around. I even warned him in about the third hand what was going to happen later. I had the biggest chip stack on my table after playing pretty aggressive, so I mellowed out in the middle rounds. When we got to the final table of 8, I probably had the second most chips of the 8, but the leader was up about 2 1/2 - 3 times on me.

When we got to the final 3, I was barely short of the guy in 2nd but the previous chip leader was still up on me by far. So I went back to aggressive mode and won fairly easily.

It was fun.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 02:35 PM
Nice job. There are some obnoxious fucks at those tournaments who think they're good.

Melmart1
06-03-2006, 02:57 PM
I played a few Bar Poker things on the soufside last fall and they were fun, though I agree with Manny, a few of them think they know waaay too much just cus they watched the WSOP on ESPN.

Case in point- my sister's (now ex) boyfriend. I had never played in a Bar Poker tourney, and he had so the whole drive to the bar all he did was give me tips, pointers, etc. I was polite but wasn't really listening. He was like the fifth guy out of the tourney out of like 50+ who showed up. I made the final table. Of course, I was down to three whole chips by that time, and was the first one out at the final table :lol but goes to show that a whole lot of people are all talk, no skill.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 03:04 PM
Bar Poker and Love My Poker games are a much larger crapshoot than a regular tourney. In a regular tourney where you start off with more chips and the blinds don't go up so fast, you have a larger time for skill show its advantadge. What makes up for that is that the people who play in these tourneys are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo godamn bad.

I've played in several home games around town where the players get so happy to see people from bar poker join them because they are the defenition of dead money.

Anyhow, I had fun when I used to play at those things. Won won, made a shitload of final tables. Good fun for the price.

katyon6th
06-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Kori is super.

timvp
06-03-2006, 05:02 PM
Bar Poker and Love My Poker games are a much larger crapshoot than a regular tourney. In a regular tourney where you start off with more chips and the blinds don't go up so fast, you have a larger time for skill show its advantadge.

Actually we started with 1500 in chips and the blinds went up damn slow. Two hours in the blinds were 100-200. Even at the end the blinds were only 500-1000, which was nothing.


What makes up for that is that the people who play in these tourneys are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo godamn bad.

I've played in several home games around town where the players get so happy to see people from bar poker join them because they are the defenition of dead money.

The competition level there was actually decent. It was a lot older and more serious than the LoveMyPoker ones I've been to.

But yeah Kris is right ... Kori is getting into the Stu Unger level of wins per tourneys entered ratio.


:smokin

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 05:21 PM
Actually we started with 1500 in chips and the blinds went up damn slow. Two hours in the blinds were 100-200. Even at the end the blinds were only 500-1000, which was nothing.

Exactly, I was begging for the blinds to go up faster. But Manny has to come into the thread act like a know-it-all and letting everyone know it's just a shitty system, low number of chips, fast blinds and a crapshoot, even though he wasn't there. So me winning doesn't mean shit.

Thanks for clarification from the poker pro.
:rolleyes

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 05:27 PM
WTF? I never said winning didn't mean shit? Don't twist my words, I even gave you props! Whatever, if you want to jump at a chance to be defensive, go right ahead.

Once again, Nice Job.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 05:28 PM
Actually we started with 1500 in chips and the blinds went up damn slow. Two hours in the blinds were 100-200. Even at the end the blinds were only 500-1000, which was nothing.



The competition level there was actually decent. It was a lot older and more serious than the LoveMyPoker ones I've been to.

But yeah Kris is right ... Kori is getting into the Stu Unger level of wins per tourneys entered ratio.


:smokinThats a damn nice system. I wish the other bar poker things were like that. How do you qualify for a WSOP seat through them?

scott
06-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Manny vs. Kori heads up at my place. Tickets at the door for $15

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 05:29 PM
WTF? I never said winning didn't mean shit? Don't twist my words, I even gave you props! Whatever, if you want to jump at a chance to be defensive, go right ahead.

Once again, Nice Job.

Manny, it's what you do. You don't give ANYONE credit in regards winning poker, no matter how many times you lose. I was telling LJ last night that you would come in this thread and explain how it was just lucky, that the blinds go up too fast, and that it was a "crapshoot" and no chance for utilizing any skill. You did exactly that .. including the word crapshoot.

Congrats on being a predictable asshole. :tu

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 05:30 PM
Godamn, whats even more is that you could derive that I was giving you more props for winning this thing because of the crappy structures they usually run.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 05:31 PM
Manny, it's what you do. You don't give ANYONE credit in regards winning poker, no matter how many times you lose. I was telling LJ last night that you would come in this thread and explain how it was just lucky, that the blinds go up too fast, and that it was a "crapshoot" and no chance for utilizing any skill. You did exactly that .. including the word crapshoot.

Congrats on being a predictable asshole. :tuGive me a break! I came in here and gave you props. Congrats on twisting my words to what you wanted to hear.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 05:32 PM
Thats a damn nice system. I wish the other bar poker things were like that. How do you qualify for a WSOP seat through them?

They have 4 seats they are giving away. We didn't ask any questions but I believe you accumulate points and then they will have tournaments of the top point leaders to give away the WSOP seats. I think it's way too late in the season to get enough points to have a chance though.

Oh LJ was wrong about one thing though, in the last few hands in was up to 1000-2000.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 06:01 PM
A couple questions for people who play more than me. I tried to ask Manny last night when I got home but I think he was asleep.

1. In one hand, a girl bet and I called her. In the end, she showed and had paired her J. I had Q9 Suited and had flopped 2 pairs. I showed my Q and said "Queens" but they forced me to show my second card. Why? They said you have to show both. *shrug*

2. Another time, I said I declined to cut when it was turn to cut. They said you aren't allowed to decline. Is that true?

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 06:05 PM
1. You always have to show 2 to take down a pot. We don't ever enforce that rule - and I get enough shit for enforcing other rules so I don't say shit - but it is a rule.

2. You are allowed to decilne a cut. Thats what the tap on top of the deck means, so I don't know wtf they were smoking there.

KEDA
06-03-2006, 06:09 PM
Old man Woodward said props to Kori on the win.


I concour.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Etiquette

The continuous section may also be taken from the middle of the deck, though in some settings this is considered poor etiquette or against the rules. Likewise, a cut involving a very small number of cards, such as taking only the top card as a cut, is not often acceptable. The same is true when a player takes more than one section of cards from the deck.

During informal card games, the dealer is typically not required to offer the cut, and even if offered, the designated player can decline the request. On the other hand, any player may specifically request to cut the cards before they are dealt. If a cut is requested by a player, it must be granted by the dealer.

In formal player dealt settings, such as in a casino or during a tournament, an offer to cut the deck is mandatory and the designated player must perform the cut. When the dealer is not a player (i.e. a casino employee), the cut is mandatory and is usually performed by the dealer.

A cut should always be completed with one hand to limit possibility of a false cut.


Wikipedia says the cut is mandatory. Everytime I've been a formal setting the dealer is always the one dealing. I wonder if you're allowed to tap the deck and that counts as the cut. Cause if so, thats the same shit as declining to do it.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 06:12 PM
2. You are allowed to decilne a cut. Thats what the tap on top of the deck means, so I don't know wtf they were smoking there.

Thanks.

I tapped it. And he looked at me like I was crazy, so I said, "I decline to cut" and he said, "You aren't allowed to decline." So I took only 3 cards off the top and called that my cut.

He didn't like me at all though (he's the guy I beat in the final 2). The whole game he was telling me that I was doing stuff wrong when I wasn't. He got mad at one point because one of my hairs got on the table. :rolleyes

He's not the asshole that I was talking about in the beginning of this thread though.

This guy was SUPER SUPER LOUD and obnoxious. Kris and I were at the same table in the beginning and he was on our table. He thought he was ruling the roost. At one point, some girl was deciding if she was calling and he reached over and started counting her chips .. he wasn't even in the hand or anything. And he was talking really loud and always acting like he was dominating. At one point I beat him in a hand early on with a pair of Aces and he had Kings and he started trash talking me like he had figured out my game. So I said, "I just giving you warning right now, I'm not someone that you can bully around. So watch yourself later in the night." When I finally got him out later people were practically begging me to get him out. He tried some bullying tactic, so of course I didn't fold (I had KA and there was a K on the board).

spurschick
06-03-2006, 06:15 PM
Congrats on the win! :spin

kris
06-03-2006, 09:19 PM
Thanks.

I tapped it. And he looked at me like I was crazy, so I said, "I decline to cut" and he said, "You aren't allowed to decline." So I took only 3 cards off the top and called that my cut.

He didn't like me at all though (he's the guy I beat in the final 2). The whole game he was telling me that I was doing stuff wrong when I wasn't. He got mad at one point because one of my hairs got on the table. :rolleyes

He's not the asshole that I was talking about in the beginning of this thread though.

This guy was SUPER SUPER LOUD and obnoxious. Kris and I were at the same table in the beginning and he was on our table. He thought he was ruling the roost. At one point, some girl was deciding if she was calling and he reached over and started counting her chips .. he wasn't even in the hand or anything. And he was talking really loud and always acting like he was dominating. At one point I beat him in a hand early on with a pair of Aces and he had Kings and he started trash talking me like he had figured out my game. So I said, "I just giving you warning right now, I'm not someone that you can bully around. So watch yourself later in the night." When I finally got him out later people were practically begging me to get him out. He tried some bullying tactic, so of course I didn't fold (I had KA and there was a K on the board).


That guy was stupid, but he thought he knew the world about poker. He was talking shit to me and he did end up taking me down, but I took solace in the fact that my better version was sitting two seats down from me. He got past me, but I knew he wasn't getting past Kori.

SequSpur
06-03-2006, 09:32 PM
So wtf did you win? A box of nothing?

Next time someone talks shit, tell them what you have and take their chips. Then later on tell them what you have again, even if you don't have it, make them fold and then don't show.

They won't every talk to you again.

Congrats on whatever you won.

scott
06-03-2006, 09:35 PM
If there was a dealer (someone not playing) I don't know why there would be a cut at all (the dealer will cut it himself before distributing cards).

But yeah, you always have to show both cards to win a pot. Also, if you choose to much your hand on a showdown, and someone asks to see what you had, you have to show them (even if they weren't in the hand).

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 09:44 PM
It was a player that was dealing. Not a set dealer.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 09:46 PM
So wtf did you win? A box of nothing?

Next time someone talks shit, tell them what you have and take their chips. Then later on tell them what you have again, even if you don't have it, make them fold and then don't show.

They won't every talk to you again.

Congrats on whatever you won.

$100 but they had to pay me later because this was the first barpoker event there at that bar and they had to get it retroactive or some crap.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Also, if you choose to much your hand on a showdown, and someone asks to see what you had, you have to show them (even if they weren't in the hand).

So if you muck in a showdown, you have to show if someone asks?

I didn't know that.

scott
06-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Yes, that is correct. By calling on the end, your hand essentially becomes public doman, for lack of a better word. This is a practice that is coming more into use as more people start playing. In the "old days" you wouldn't have seen Doyle Brunson asking to see Amarillo Slim's hand when he was mucking as a matter of etiquette. Some places will just make it a rule that everyone must show their hand on the showdown to avoid the conflict that occassionally accompanies someone asking to see a mucked hand.

Melmart1
06-03-2006, 10:03 PM
That's some bullshit, being forced to show your hand. I had never heard of that. It just seems wrong to me, for some reason.

scott
06-03-2006, 10:05 PM
re: the cut thing

I guess I've never noticed. When I deal, I never offer a cut - I guess a holdover from my dealing days. In fact, whenever I play with my friends a cut is never offered. I learned something new.

scott
06-03-2006, 10:06 PM
That's some bullshit, being forced to show your hand. I had never heard of that. It just seems wrong to me, for some reason.

It's basically an extension of the "you got to pay to see them" philosophy. If you are in a showdown, by definition someone "paid to see" your hand, even if its a loser.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 10:14 PM
Now, it is really bad ettiquette to sit there and at every showdown ask to see each hand that is mucked. You can see it, but to abuse it is considered pretty shitty.

Melmart1
06-03-2006, 10:16 PM
It's basically an extension of the "you got to pay to see them" philosophy. If you are in a showdown, by definition someone "paid to see" your hand, even if its a loser.

Oh, I get that concept totally. However, I have been playing for a little while like at family gatherings, shit like that and that was just never the way it was done. So to me it just seems... I dunno. Shady isn't the word, but something along those lines. I guess it just seems too easy for the opponant or something, if that makes sense.

scott
06-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Yeah, like Manny said... to abuse it is considered very bad form. I will ask to see a hand every now and then though - especially if I call someone with a 2nd or 3rd best hand to "keep 'em honest" so to speak. If I win a hand that I wasn't necessary expecting to win, sometimes I need to know just WTF the other guy was doing.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Now, it is really bad ettiquette to sit there and at every showdown ask to see each hand that is mucked. You can see it, but to abuse it is considered pretty shitty.

Yeah that's why I would think too.

I just didn't know anyone could make you show if you mucked.

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 10:22 PM
It is very useful if you play against someone and you are good at remember how they play certain hands. You can then match their play with posssible hands to narrow down what they may be holding. But really, unless you play a lot with a person it won't make much difference.

scott
06-03-2006, 10:29 PM
I disagree about it not making much difference Manny. Based on this kind of info it is easy to pin someone's playing type. The kind of guy who is going to represent trips to the end when he's playing the board - if I can get that info out early, I've got a huge advantage on him the rest of the game.

Kori Ellis
06-03-2006, 10:36 PM
So do you guys (Manny/Scott) ask the mucker to show often?

I will use this rule to my advantage on some rare occasion. Thank you.

timvp
06-03-2006, 10:37 PM
I disagree about it not making much difference Manny. Based on this kind of info it is easy to pin someone's playing type. The kind of guy who is going to represent trips to the end when he's playing the board - if I can get that info out early, I've got a huge advantage on him the rest of the game.

I pretty much agree with this. I've figured out some players just by looking at what cards they fold and when (when I'm out or being the all-time dealer). People try to mix up how they play but everyone is different about how far they'll stretch out a draw or what kind of bet will make them fold top pair, etc.

I'll be enforcing this rule at the next poker tourney. I knew it was the rule in Vegas but I didn't know that it'd fly in home games.

:smokin

MannyIsGod
06-03-2006, 10:44 PM
Everything the flys in Vegas flys in homegames.

I use it online a lot, but only becuase they automaticaly put it on the hand history files. So if I see a guy calling me down with bottom pair when I'm betting hard at him, I'll be less likely to slow down and I'll play it fast as hell because I know he's likely to call with a hand I have beat.

I've never used it in a homegame though. I can usually narrow down a players ranges based on their betting patterns and how many flops they see. Betting pattern are the biggest source of information IMO.

But if you're new to a game, and you don't know anything about anyone, using the ruel as Scott said is a good way to get information about how loose someone is.

pseudofan
06-04-2006, 12:09 AM
The only time you have to show your hand is when you're winning a pot that has not been folded. Correct?

Dude, if I bet and you fold, you ain't seeing shit.

There are other things to look at besides patterns, the best way is to mathematically eliminate the options that can beat you and decide on whether to take a chance or not, go with the percentage, most good players can ride a 2 5 offsuit and make it look like AK.

scott
06-04-2006, 12:22 AM
The only time you have to show your hand is when you're winning a pot that has not been folded. Correct?

Dude, if I bet and you fold, you ain't seeing shit.

There are other things to look at besides patterns, the best way is to mathematically eliminate the options that can beat you and decide on whether to take a chance or not, go with the percentage, most good players can ride a 2 5 offsuit and make it look like AK.

Any player involved in a showdown (2 or more players still in after all betting complete) is subject to having to show their cards. If there are no callers, then you don't have to show your hand.

pseudofan
06-04-2006, 12:33 AM
Define Showdown.

If a hand is not folded, both players must show cards at the end unless some one forfeits.

If a hand is folded by either player, no cards have to be shown.

Correct?

scott
06-04-2006, 12:35 AM
I thought I just did define showdown... it's when 2 or more players are still in after all the betting is complete. I don't know of any other way to describe it.

T Park
06-04-2006, 12:38 AM
congrats Kori, Great to see.

Wish I could've been there to participate.

timvp
06-08-2006, 02:07 AM
Kori wins again tonight.

We head to Hooligans for a midnight game. First time there. Kori takes down about 25 people and wins $25 cash and $25 gift certificate.

Props.

:smokin





P.S.

Hooligan's setup is pretty nice. 3000 chips to start. Blinds go up slowly the first hour and then faster toward the end. Competition is decent and setup is comfortable.

I think they said they have games Mon-Thur at 6PM, 9PM and midnight.

2centsworth
06-08-2006, 11:54 AM
Some people are just naturals for certain games. It's becoming obvious Kori is a tourney natural. Even the going out early or winning strategy is in my estimation the perfect strategy for most winning players. Unfortunately, the numbers get in my way when making calls, betting, and bluffing so i'm not a consistent winner just a consistent high finisher in tourneys which is a waste of money.

Congrats Kori and keep up the good work. Try some of the online satelites to maybe win a seat at the WSOP. I knew someone who did that and finished 8th two years ago. He won 575k! You certainly have the toughness that's needed.

Kori Ellis
06-08-2006, 12:15 PM
Thanks.

For some reason, I suck online. I'm much better live. I'm good at Omaha online, but I get really impatient in Hold 'Em online. We've played in four bar poker Hole 'Em tourneys this week and I've won twice, final table one other time, and I got 15th :( or so (out of 45) in the other one.

2centsworth
06-08-2006, 12:27 PM
If online doesn't work I think there is a SA Poker Club that holds WSOP satelites. not for the main event, but for the other lower buy-in tourneys

MannyIsGod
06-08-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm playing in a WSOP satellite with some SAPC players on the 18th. The buyin is 130 or a 120, I can't remember and it is to one of the smaller hold em events. If Kori (or anyone else) is interested let me know and I'll get you info.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
06-08-2006, 05:15 PM
The WSOP Main Event is not even worth trying to qualify for, I'd much rather have 10k in cash. Most pro's even say with a field of 8000-10000 its pretty much like playing the lottery.

scott
06-08-2006, 05:38 PM
Kori only won that last tournament because the blinds structure was normal

Kori Ellis
06-08-2006, 05:42 PM
Kori only won that last tournament because the blinds structure was normal

;) Thanks.

Manny I'll let you know if LJ or I would be interested in that tournament.

When do the WSOP events start this year, end of June?

2centsworth
06-08-2006, 05:58 PM
The WSOP Main Event is not even worth trying to qualify for, I'd much rather have 10k in cash. Most pro's even say with a field of 8000-10000 its pretty much like playing the lottery.
the other WSOP tourneys are a little smaller. Main Event is a crap shoot except for Raymer and Harrington.

tlongII
06-08-2006, 06:21 PM
Kori wins again tonight.

We head to Hooligans for a midnight game. First time there. Kori takes down about 25 people and wins $25 cash and $25 gift certificate.

Props.

:smokin





P.S.

Hooligan's setup is pretty nice. 3000 chips to start. Blinds go up slowly the first hour and then faster toward the end. Competition is decent and setup is comfortable.

I think they said they have games Mon-Thur at 6PM, 9PM and midnight.


Did she give the cash to you? She said in another thread that it's your job to carry all the cash.

Kori Ellis
06-08-2006, 06:25 PM
Did she give the cash to you? She said in another thread that it's your job to carry all the cash.

:lol

Yes I gave it to him when we got in the car.

timvp
06-08-2006, 08:52 PM
Yeah, she's my poker ringer. I just go with her and lose and then pocket her winnings.

:smokin

kris
06-08-2006, 11:36 PM
Congratulations Kori. My theory on why you play so good is because you're not skerred to make the big play. I also think you not f'ing with yourself over the mindgames of percentages and statistics works in your favor.

May you one day win the WASP so I can hoc your significantly overpriced novelty merchandise on LA street corners. For example, Kori Ellis novelty dice will have your embroidered signature and I will sell them for $19.99 apiece. The fools will hand me a $20 and expect change back, but I will say I do not have any change and that is where I will make the money.

:money

T Park
06-09-2006, 12:16 AM
:lmao @ kris

atxrocker
06-09-2006, 12:46 AM
whatever happened to a good game of spades? am i the only one who still loves this game? i could spend hours playing (and usually winning) but i dig all card games

kris
06-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Cyber Bob plays a mean game of Texas Hold'em. Add two trophies to his beach house's mantle.

timvp
06-13-2006, 04:33 AM
Man, tonight Whitney took down a 62 person tournament. It was a damn impressive showing. $50 first prize.

Me, Kori, Kris and Whitney have gone to four barpoker.com events and have 2 firsts, 1 third, 2 fifths and 2 sevenths combined.

:smokin

kris
06-13-2006, 07:03 AM
Man, tonight Whitney took down a 62 person tournament. It was a damn impressive showing. $50 first prize.

Me, Kori, Kris and Whitney have gone to four barpoker.com events and have 2 firsts, 1 third, 2 fifths and 2 sevenths combined.

:smokin

I told LJ and Kori that Whitney was playing the best card I had ever seen her play the night before at Wings N' More. She finished 10th out of 100 and was playing well against the best of them, so I knew she was getting better, but I didn't know she would take down 62 people the next night.

One of the best parts of her game is how people cannot figure out what cards she has/had and keep guessing.

Nice job, Whitney.

SpursWoman
06-13-2006, 08:25 AM
That sounds like a lot of fun ... but I suck at poker. :depressed


Awesome job!

Fabbs
06-13-2006, 09:58 AM
Kori,
Of the multitudes of how-to poker books available, many with conflicting info, have you found one or two to be superb?

Kori Ellis
06-13-2006, 12:58 PM
I would never read a poker book.

Ask Manny, he would know.

Kori Ellis
06-13-2006, 01:06 PM
And Whitney played awesome last night. It was fun (even though Kris and LJ got out early and abandoned us :cry :lol).

Little Black Jersey
06-13-2006, 02:54 PM
Thanks everyone for all of the compliments and congratulations for my first tournament win last night. :)

kris
06-14-2006, 02:27 AM
LJ won third at "The Coast" tonight. Congratulations on your orange ribbon.

T Park
06-14-2006, 02:55 AM
The bronze medal, KINDA looks like gold....

timvp
06-14-2006, 02:56 AM
Third doesn't count. I'd rather finish 11th and blame some bad beats for my demise.

MannyIsGod
06-14-2006, 02:59 AM
Third is damn good in any field.

Kori Ellis
06-14-2006, 09:54 PM
The bronze medal, KINDA looks like gold....

:lol

LJ must have played really well to get to 3rd. When Whitney and I left, he barely had any chips remaining and there were about 10 people still in.

I like playing at these barpoker tournaments. It's good practice ... and free.

Kori Ellis
06-17-2006, 02:18 AM
No Bronze Ribbon Tonight

LJ won first place at the tournament at Martini Ranch. :elephant :elephant :elephant

timvp
06-17-2006, 02:22 AM
Yeah, good to finally get a W.

My final hand I had King-Queen. I hate that hand but I pushed all in.

Flop came out King, Queen, Queen. Turn was a Queen. River was a King.

Even I couldn't mess that one up :lol

timvp
06-25-2006, 03:52 AM
Kori wins another 50 person tourney.

Props.

:smokin

Kori Ellis
06-25-2006, 04:07 AM
And I also got cussed out more than I think I've ever been cussed out in my life :tu

Midway through the tournament, I am dealing - the blinds are 100/200. Four people call the guy in the big blind pre-flop, including me. I have Ace, 7 (or Ace, 9 I don't remember) Diamonds. The flop comes two more Diamonds, and an offsuit low card. The guy in the big blind goes all in (700 chips). A girl goes all in (2100 chips). Two guys fold. I saw screw it, I am going to have to double up soon because I can't go late into the tournament with only ~2500 chips.

I end up winning with an Ace high flush. She had 2 pair, which she had on the flop.

The girl goes ballistic. She calls me fucking stupid, fucking bitch, and a variety of other things. Then she stays at the table (she's out) and stares me down for a few more hands. So I finally say, "What?" and she starts going off cussing me out, telling me that if I knew anything about poker I wouldn't call an all-in on a flush draw, blahblahblah. I laugh at her a few times and say, "Whatever. Sometimes you have to take risks if you want to win."

Anyway, she moves over to the bar and proceeds to cuss me out to about 10 people sitting there. She then sits at the bar and starts yelling down taunting me. (i.e. I folded a hand and she said, "What the fuck? Aren't you going to go all-in with a 4-3 off suit"). I keep laughing. This goes on for a long time -- nearly an hour. Finally I tell her to get over it. And she tells me, "Fuck you." Again I laugh. She says Fuck you, fucking bitch, and whore many more times before leaving.

Anyway, back to poker, I get to heads up against this guy who seemed to be bluffing a lot, but I couldn't read him at all. He has about 5 times as many chips as I do.

It took a while and there were some scary moments, but in the end. I win! :smokin

:lmao @ that girl though. I am trying to remember a time in my life when someone cussed me out that much. I don't think it exists.

MaNuMaNiAc
06-25-2006, 05:10 AM
wow... wasn't there security that could escort her out? or this isn't that kind of tournament? :lol

scott
06-25-2006, 09:32 AM
She was only mad because of the blinds structure.

spurschick
06-25-2006, 09:34 AM
So I finally say, "What?" and she starts going off cussing me out, telling me that if I knew anything about poker I wouldn't call an all-in on a flush draw, blahblahblah.

If she knew anything about poker, she wouldn't have had to cuss at you from the bar. Some people are really sore losers.

ShoogarBear
06-25-2006, 09:38 AM
Damn, I didn't realize angel was such a sore loser.

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-25-2006, 09:52 AM
Damn, I didn't realize angel was such a sore loser.

That was nothing.

The day the trade was announced...well, let's just say there was this little incident near the top of the tower at UT.

kris
06-25-2006, 11:54 AM
I don't even know how Kori won that tournament. She never had a dominating chip stack until she overtook the guy she was playing with one-on-one. Even then, he won about 4-5 hands in a row to draw even.

I told Kori I'm going to have to just video tape her one of these times to see how she plays. You don't keep winning 30, 40, 50+ man tournaments on accident.

At this tournament and with woai poker "expert" Dale Blasphame, people always say she plays stupid. But she probably for real wins 20% of the tournaments she is in. Whether home or commericial games.

I think Kori's rediculously high IQ comes into play here. I'm not sure exactly how, but you don't see too many great-dumb poker players. An example of how smart Kori is is she got a 171 on the LSAT, which is the test you take to enter law school. The top score is 180. 152 is considered moderately good. 160 is awesome. 171 will get you basically into anywhere you want to go.

I play similar to Kori but I can't win a soda can at a recycling station. I'll have to play heads up with her one-on-one to to find out where I fall off the wagon.

Kori Ellis
06-25-2006, 12:08 PM
At this tournament and with woai poker "expert" Dale Blasphame, people always say she plays stupid.

I pick one or two hands a tournament to "play stupid" AKA play risky. And when someone gets beat on one of the risky hands, they die about it. That's why I said to that girl last night, "Get over it. I wasn't playing on draws all night." There's always a point where I say okay, this is it because I need to get a decent amount of chips heading into the final table.

Last night I could have probably made it to the final table with 2500 chips, but I would have got killed by the 500/1000 blinds. So I had to risk it to build my chip stack.

Kris, I don't think I do anything that you don't do. I just think that come heads up time, I'm convinced that I can win even if I'm super short.

However, last night I was very lucky early. I flopped quad J's. You have to get a lot of luck and good cards to win a 50-person tournament.

SequSpur
06-25-2006, 12:41 PM
Going all in with a semipossible flush draw is weak. Winning the hand is lucky. Especially pulling the Ace.

TheTruth
06-25-2006, 12:44 PM
I would have said, bitch, do what you want cause a true blue mack don't even front.

Kori Ellis
06-25-2006, 12:47 PM
Going all in with a semipossible flush draw is weak. Winning the hand is lucky. Especially pulling the Ace.

I wasn't all in - I would have had about 500 chips left if I lost. It was the time in the tournament to double up, or almost get out. You can't win a 50 man tournament without trying to double up.

And it wasn't semi-possible. It was possible because it happened. :lol I had four diamonds after the flop and I had the Ace in my hand.

ShoogarBear
06-25-2006, 12:52 PM
Going all in with a semipossible flush draw is weak. Winning the hand is lucky. Especially pulling the Ace.You didn't get eaten by sharks?

kris
06-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Going all in with a semipossible flush draw is weak. Winning the hand is lucky. Especially pulling the Ace.


Aces have to come up once in awhile. Is it lucky that you catch them sometimes?

I haven't got pocket A's in the last 10 tournaments I've been in. Will I be lucky the next time I get them?

Kori Ellis
06-25-2006, 01:04 PM
I very, very rarely get pocket Aces.

I saw Whitney get them twice in like 30 minutes once.

For some reason I get pocket Q's, K's and 7's a lot.

KEDA
06-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Congrats to both of yous


glad I keep donating to the best!

the lessons arent cheap, but will prove valuable in the end!

Old School Chic
06-25-2006, 01:43 PM
Congratulations Kori :clap

MannyIsGod
06-25-2006, 02:06 PM
Going all in with a semipossible flush draw is weak. Winning the hand is lucky. Especially pulling the Ace.Kori had the nut flush draw going all in and she's putting in about a 3rd of the pot. A flush draw alone on the flop will hit a third of the time, so her play is fine. She might even have more outs if her ace is good. The chick had 2 pair so it wasn't, but depending on what the turn brings you might pick up more outs.

The only reason the chick bitched is because she's fucking stupid. There's nothing wrong with calling an AI on a draw when you have the right odds to do so.