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SPARKY
06-09-2006, 12:18 PM
...but what about the 3? Bowen's 35 and after that you have guards who can see some minutes there. I feel reasonably confident the Spurs can improve their bigman rotation but here we are again hoping they can find a backup small forward. Jumaine Jones would be a nice candidate, all things considered. Other than that, there's not much. Sanikidze is available and apparently will be getting some run in the summerleagues. The Spurs need to address the 3 at some point.

Mr. Body
06-09-2006, 12:25 PM
That's the question, isn't it?

They'll address it in the draft this year, but no long-term help seems readily available.

I wonder if they'll try to trade into the first round by poaching from a team who doesn't want their extra, like Phoenix. Then they'd go for Sefolosha or shoot for the moon on someone like Nemanja Aleksandrov.

strangeweather
06-09-2006, 12:29 PM
Sanikidze is the great unknown.

He could be anything from the answer to our problems within a year or two to someone who needs a few years to develop to someone who just doesn't have enough to make a difference. I can't imagine that anyone outside the Spurs organization could even have an intelligent guess at this point, because he hasn't been playing.

Aside from the mystery of Sanikidze, I think Jumaine Jones could be a really nice pickup for us this summer.

Solid D
06-09-2006, 12:47 PM
If the answer is in this year's draft, then it would need to be via a trade for a fairly high pick. The Spurs still haven't signed their late 2nd round picks from the past 3 years...and that's their lone pick this year (59, next to last).

Free agency or trade are going to be the options to meet this need.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 12:59 PM
Jumaine Jones sounds good. So does JR Smith.

Slinkyman
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
Too bad we traded Malik cause he could be the answer at the 3

Borosai
06-09-2006, 01:43 PM
I think the Spurs can easily find a defensive-minded 3 in the 2nd round. They don't need a big name...just a hard worker and great defender.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Who knows? NY might be dumb and buyout Malik's contract.

picnroll
06-09-2006, 01:53 PM
Too bad we traded Malik cause he could be the answer at the 3
I assume that was meant as a joke.

Kori Ellis
06-09-2006, 01:55 PM
Jumaine Jones sounds good. So does JR Smith.

JR Smith is around 6'5/6'6. He'd be a good backup SG but he's not a long small forward.

Pop said they are looking for an athletic forward around 6'9/6'10. No one has really jumped out at me that's the answer.

Maybe it's Sanikidze.

Kori Ellis
06-09-2006, 01:55 PM
I assume that was meant as a joke.

:lol I almost responded to it but then thought he must be kidding around with Sparky.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Al Harrington has always been a favorite of mine, but I know the price is out of reach unless we do a sign and trade with Atlanta.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 02:27 PM
Stromile Swift for Brent Barry might work. They didn't seem too happy with his play last year there in H-Town. They need shooters. We need a long three.

SsKSpurs21
06-09-2006, 02:42 PM
malik should start some trouble and force NY to buy out his contract.

Buddy Holly
06-09-2006, 02:55 PM
From an old (2004) write up of Viktor:


What They Are Saying About Viktor Sanikidze:

Sanikidze has all the tools to be a good NBA small forward. He is a skilled shooter, possesses the ability to spot up or create his own shot, is potentially a solid finisher and rebounder in the paint and has good basketball instincts. He did not receive much playing time for his pro team but has starred at the junior national team level in Europe.

At just 196 pounds, Sanikidze is still growing into his 6-8 frame. Right now, he would get destroyed defensively in the NBA. Whichever team selects Sanikidze would have to stash him in Europe for a few seasons before allowing him to come to the United States. He is just too far away from having the tools to compete in the league right now.

"He's a long-term project. He's fundamentally, technically sound. But all the young Europeans have issues. Growth issues. Experience issues." - Charlotte Bobcats director of international scouting Tim Shea

Extra Stout
06-09-2006, 02:58 PM
Stromile Swift for Brent Barry might work. They didn't seem too happy with his play last year there in H-Town. They need shooters. We need a long three.
Swift is a piece of shit.

conqueso
06-09-2006, 03:07 PM
Stromile Swift for Brent Barry might work. They didn't seem too happy with his play last year there in H-Town. They need shooters. We need a long three.

I paid extra special close attentio to Stromile Swift this year because he was on my fantasy team. I had this dream that all he needed to fully grow into a PTP was a change of environment, a team with a big man to draw interior defenses away from him and freee up his shot. I thought Houston was a great fit for him, which is why I picked him late in the seventh round. Boy, was I wrong.

Stromile Swift sucks donkey balls. The reason they weren't happy with his play was because he averaged 9 points and 4.4 boards in 20 minutes, a decrease in both categories from the previous season where he played the same role on the Grizzlies team.

Stromile Swift will not rebound, and he will not defend. The only way in which he is better than Nazr is in terms of his mid range jumper, and even that is spotty. Maybe if all of a sudden he miraculously decided to start playing defense after six years in the L when he comes to the Spurs (a la Michael Finley), he might be worth thinking about. But Barry is a vastly better shooter, ball-handler, and believe-it-or-not defender than Stromile Swift. Swift would not fit the Spurs' needs better because he gives them nothing they don't already have; he can't spell Bowen off the bench because he can't defend or shoot the long ball or drive, he can't take Nazr's spot in the rotation because he can't board or defend (and really isn't tall enough), and he can't play 2 because, well, he has no handles.

The Spurs don't need to shake shit up as much as everyone is saying. They were one stupid foul away from a likely repeat. Simmer down everyone. Barry's still got a good year or two left in him. The Spurs don't have to adapt to small ball by becoming a small ball team any more than they had to become a different team to adapt to Phoenix' run-and-gun. Tweaking the status quo is a more sensible, rationale, sane way to shore up whatever shortcomings this team may have, not throwing everything out the fucking window.

picnroll
06-09-2006, 03:20 PM
Jumaine Jones, Qyntel Woods or both if they can dump Barry.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Trevor Ariza is available. I'm just throwing names out there.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-09-2006, 04:06 PM
Tim Thomas, Rasual Butler, or Jumaine Jones.

Bruno
06-09-2006, 04:08 PM
Swift is a PF and if we get Harrington (my dream) I rather use him at PF.

I really like Jumaine Jones as backup SF for next year. Bruce has made a great season, I think he can still play at a high level next year.

Jumaine Jones hasn't the level to be a starter for a condending team.
It's maybe time to find a prospect to play when Bruce will retire.
Which way choose : Sanikidze ?, a lockdown defender (like Bobby Jones) ?, a long SF who can shoot (like Aleksandrov), an athletic guy (like James White) ?

The good news is that SF is the most overcrowded position in nba. Finding a SF is easier than finding a C.

ChumpDumper
06-09-2006, 04:10 PM
Even when Swift got healthy, he was losing chunks of time to Chuck Hayes.

I like Ariza, of course Orlando might also and match a low offer.

Jones would likely be the best fit, but does he want to go back to spot minutes after averaging over 25mpg and starting much of the past two seasons?

From the D-League, I'd like to give Erik Daniels a look. Yes, GiG will say he's nothing special, but he played out of position at PF most of the season and still ended up 3rd in rebounds per game and 6th in scoring per game. And I simply like the way Kentucky guys play.

James Singleton had a few good games for the Clips....

New Jersey doesn't use Nachbar at all though I don't know what they would want in trade.

I wonder if anyone scouted Sharrod Ford in Germany.

Did Tommy Smith ever come back?

Slim pickings.

SPARKY
06-09-2006, 04:11 PM
I think the question is...what's Ju Jones' market price?

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 04:14 PM
I like Ariza. He might stay though because of the money and the turn around the Magic is having.

Bruno
06-09-2006, 04:15 PM
I think the question is...what's Ju Jones' market price?

I say, around $3M/year with a 3 or 4 year deal.

SPARKY
06-09-2006, 04:19 PM
That's what I was thinking. If you sign him then you can forget about Evans, save for a trade.

Bruno
06-09-2006, 04:23 PM
That's what I was thinking. If you sign him then you can forget about Evans, save for a trade.

Barry for Jumaine Jones S&T with Charlotte can be a good trade for both teams.

waly.mg
06-09-2006, 04:24 PM
THE CORRECTS MOVE MUST TO BE

Sign the Draft Picks: Scola and Javtokas(Javtokas is finished his Contract in Europe, if he sign with other Team for a year, the Spurs are going to Lose the Rights)

Make a trade, with Rasho, Barry, Horry, Oberto, Udrih, Finley or Nazr Bird Rights in a Sign and trade

picnroll
06-09-2006, 04:24 PM
With Jones you can also forget about Scola this year.

ChumpDumper
06-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Javtokas is finished his Contract in Europe, if he sign with other Team for a year, the Spurs are going to Lose the RightsUntrue. He'd have to sit out a year.

MoSpur
06-09-2006, 04:40 PM
Lets bring in all the European weapons then. Scola and so on.

smdanss
06-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Too bad we traded Malik cause he could be the answer at the 3
A 3 requires faster than Malik who is actually a good undersized 4.

SenorSpur
06-09-2006, 07:24 PM
With Jones you can also forget about Scola this year.

No biggie.

RC's Boss
06-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Trade Nazr to Chicago for one of their 3's (Deng or Nocioni). Don't know how that works w/ the cap, but that would put us back to the top.

RC's Boss
06-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Jumaine Jones? Hell no!

Axl Van Dam
06-14-2006, 04:50 AM
Stromile Swift for Brent Barry might work. They didn't seem too happy with his play last year there in H-Town. They need shooters. We need a long three.

:nope Stromile Swift??? Hell no?! Way, way, way overrated.

Dre_7
06-14-2006, 04:58 AM
Tim Thomas. My (basically) hopeless dream, but would be perfect for the Spurs current situation with the Bigs.

Streakyshooter08
06-14-2006, 06:10 AM
I wonder if anyone scouted Sharrod Ford in Germany.



Well, I am obviously not a scout but here are some observations on how Ford did in Germany:

- he was a good defender, good rebounder and shotblocker
- had some foul trouble throughout the playoffs
- in the Finals he had some good offensive games, finished mainly around the rim but was not good from the FT line
- he had to play C a lot because Stanojevic got injured

All in all I think he is not what the Spurs need, he is a good athlete but has limited offensive game -> no outside shot, poor FT shooter
He did not seem that strong, so I am not sure how he would do in the NBA.
Might give our bigs some rest but I would not expect him to help the Spurs immediately.

Doug Collins
06-14-2006, 08:03 AM
What about Quentin Ross? I couldnt find his contract situation, but I like the way he plays D and he can hit a fairly consistent mid-range shot. At 6ft 6 he isnt huge but he gives effort and has some really long arms. Of course if he´s under contract screw it.

Bruno
06-14-2006, 08:17 AM
What about Quentin Ross? I couldnt find his contract situation, but I like the way he plays D and he can hit a fairly consistent mid-range shot. At 6ft 6 he isnt huge but he gives effort and has some really long arms. Of course if he´s under contract screw it.

Good idea but he's under contract. :depressed

Taking it to the Hole
06-14-2006, 08:29 AM
I say we take a look at DeMarr Johnson up there in Denver. The Spurs have always shown interest in this guy and this may be the summer that we pick him up. I like that he is long and athletic. what is he 6'9"? If we could pick him up, we could bring him under Bowen's tutelage and he could give us an energy boost from the 3 spot. I really like this kid alot and I hope the Spurs take a good look at him.

whottt
06-14-2006, 08:31 AM
What are our needs? Back up PG, a mobile big(who can rebound and with range preferably), and long SF?

The solution is simple...


Trade Rasho and Barry to Cleveland for LeBron James, Donyell Marshall and Eric Snow.

Problem solved.

How it could happen:


LeBron is friends with Javtokas and would give anything to be teamtaes with him, so he would like to play in SA and win championships. He simply demands a trade.

Ferry wants to win championships so he convinces Cavs ownership to accept this trade only if Sanikidze is part of the deal. Ferrry convinces Cavs ownership than Sanikidze is the next LeBron...

Yes I know Sanikidze is only 20 weighs 110lbs, and his career pinnacle was averaging about 2.5 ppg in the French B Leagues for a half season, before needing sugery for tendinitis in both knees, and having to sit around and do nothing for the last 8 months...but since Spursfans still think this guy is the key to a title, why won't the Cavs owner?

So anyway...Ferry convinces Cavs ownership to go for it...

Then when the Cavs fire Ferry we hire him as our GM and give him a susbstantial pay raise.

Simple as that.


It could happen......and I suspect this has a better chance of happening than Sanikidze making a meaningful contribution to this team next season....