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xrayzebra
06-10-2006, 09:17 AM
I know our two favorite Libs wouldn't want to miss this, with all their
favorite dimm-o-craps and liberals all in one place.


New political ground trod at Yearly Kos
Candidates, bloggers perform intricate dance at convention
- Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, June 10, 2006



Las Vegas -- While leading Democratic politicians have embraced the digital age of politics by kissing up to the 1,000 Internet-savvy bloggers convening here at the first YearlyKos convention this weekend, everybody is still trying to figure out how exactly to behave in a 21st century political courtship.

It is a question provoking much discussion among the digiterati at the first major convention inspired by a political blog, Daily Kos, which is run by Berkeley resident Markos Moulitsas Zuniga.

Many of those who identify themselves as "net-roots" activists started blogging over the past few years out of the frustration of feeling excluded from the chummy world of Washington politics. But now that Washington has come calling after seeing how much buzz and cash the blogosphere can raise, the bloggers are warily sizing up their suitors. And many are wondering which in-person approach seems the most true to their values.

"We're more skeptical of the big-name candidates being here than the little guys," said David Atkins, who owns a market research firm in Los Angeles. "The little guys need our help more."

Perhaps, then, a candidate might use the deferential, open-source style of Democrat John Laesch, the first-time Illinois politician running against Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert. In a media training session, he asked activists for advice on how he should appear on camera.

"They told me to lock my feet together so I don't wobble back and forth," he said.

And how do the "netroots" want to be courted by the presidential wannabes? Maybe candidates will adopt the approach of New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who fed 35 of them croissants and coffee Friday morning and answered questions while seated in a hotel suite dressed in jeans, white T-shirt and blazer.

"I like that he sat in the middle of the room and took all his own questions. It was very multidirectional, and that appeals to this audience," said Justin Krebs, a New Yorker who founded Drinking Liberally, a 3-year-old social group that now has 145 chapters in 40 states.

But Richardson seemed to be typecasting his blogger audience at times. Although many of the people in the room had white hair, Richardson remarked several times that the audience was too young to get some of his cultural references and that perhaps they could help get out the youth vote. Krebs shrugged, noting that the average age of a Daily Kos reader is 45. "It's common misperception many people have about the blogosphere. That we're all living in our parents' house."

Still, Krebs admits, maybe the croissants helped soften the crowd on such missteps. "The next time he does something bad, maybe somebody on a blog will give him a pass once, instead of pounding on him right away."

Other politicians tried different tacks.

On Thursday, a couple hundred "Kossacks," as they call themselves, sipped Buds and Heinekens and listened as retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark stood on a chair at the Hard Rock Casino and addressed them without a microphone. On Friday, former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner offered an "open bar, free food and thrill rides" at his swank gig dubbed "Blogosphere at the Stratosphere (Casino Tower Hotel)" that was whispered to cost more than what most bloggers make in a year. Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack will be more low-key, focusing his efforts on a panel discussion today on education.

"I don't know what I think about them spending all this money on parties to try to get to know us. It's a new thing to us," said Katie Halper, a New York filmmaker.

"I don't see anything wrong with it," said her friend, David Alpert, a high-tech project manager from New York. "It happens all the time in other industries at conventions."

More than a dozen congressional and statewide candidates are peppering the YearlyKossacks in Las Vegas with campaign material and pleas for support. Michigan's Nancy Skinner, running for Congress in Detroit against a seven-term incumbent, has been buttonholing bloggers with her green "Elect a Green Congresswoman from Detroit" flyers. And it's hard to miss the mailers for Texas Senate candidate Barbara Ann Radnofsy: "Tough Name. Smart Dame."

"We're a new medium, and we're trying to figure things out, and I think the politicians are trying to figure this out, too," said Jonathan Singer, a campaign manager for an Oregon politician who blogs on www.MyDD.com. "I don't think we'll know who has been most successful at this until (the convention) is over."

Moulitsas, who said he has no favorite 2008 presidential candidate yet, said more can be learned from the next Daily Kos straw poll at the end of July and from diary entries people post around the blogosphere. "And hopefully from meeting us, these politicians can see that we're not these crazy, wild-eyed radicals that some people like to think we are.

"I like people who are the same in an intimate setting as they are on stage," Moulitsas said. "In person, Hillary Clinton is one of the warmest, most genuine politicians I've met. But once she gets on stage, she's ice cold."

Maybe the best way to address the netroots was offered by California Sen. Barbara Boxer, who got a standing ovation before and after her keynote speech Friday.

"Thank you for all you're doing," Boxer said. "The netroots is key to giving people the courage to stand up for what is right."

UC Berkeley professor of linguistics George Lakoff gave Boxer high marks for appealing to the crowd by talking to them about issues that mattered to them: Net neutrality, surveillance and the war. Yet she didn't pander to them, Lakoff said, when one audience member asked why Democrats weren't pushing for impeachment hearings.

"That might not have been the answer people wanted to hear," said Lakoff, a favorite in the liberal blogosphere. "But it was an answer from a politician who knows what she can and cannot do politically."

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Cant_Be_Faded
06-10-2006, 10:38 AM
a dimm o what?

Nbadan
06-10-2006, 02:05 PM
Congratulations to DailyKOS for pulling this off.

xrayzebra
06-12-2006, 09:30 AM
dan, were you in this little contest. Could you post pictures?

Earth Calling
By "Scott Shepard" | Sunday, June 11, 2006, 12:52 PM


For all the bashing of the mainstream media at the YearlyKos convention, the bloggers in attendance clearly wanted to be taken seriouslyby the reporters covering the convention. Their blogs frequently quoted from mainstream newspaper articles, and they tried to have their photographs taken with the likes of New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

But some started to worry about the image they were projecting outside the blogosphere on Saturday when some bloggers started an unusual contest - making the most original tinfoil hat. As dozens of bloggers donned their creations with delight, television crews and newspaper photographers descended on them. “Oh, no. This is going to be the B-roll on TV tonight,” said one dismayed blogger.

Nbadan
06-12-2006, 12:25 PM
Speaking of conspiracy theories, the citizenspook covers the CIA-Venice Airport-911-Drug connection...


That's it. And it partially explains the "alleged" infighting between government spy divisions. As it plays out, you will be told about the CIA attempting to control information and stop the world from knowing about its "bungled" attempt to infiltrate Al Queda. This will be the sanctioned story which will spread throughout the main stream media in the coming months and it will also be the nutron bomb intended to destroy the genuine 911 truth movement.

Do I have proof for this theory? Of course. All you have to do is go back to November 7, 2001 and read what Hopsicker wrote for onlinejournal.com in his article titled:

WAS THE CIA RUNNING A TERRORIST FLIGHT SCHOOL?

"Was the CIA running a covert, or black, operation out of the Venice Airport? Might they have been training pilots for bin Laden in an effort to penetrate his organization that went more-than-just-slightly-horrifically awry?"

"horrfically awry" ---- remember that phrase.

CitizenSpook (http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/)

All of this seems to be confirmed by Amanda Keller, Atta's stripper girlfriend in her biography by Madcow. The 911 Commission never even interviewed Keller.

thispego
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
If I were bin laden and i had duped the US & CIA into training my men so they could fly into the wtc then im sure i would have mentioned it in one of my few post-9/11 video addresses

Nbadan
06-13-2006, 02:49 AM
Your assuming Bin Laden was connected to 911 at all, a claim even the FBI can't support..

By Enver Masud
The Milli Gazette Online
11 June 2006


The FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" web page does not state that Bin Laden is wanted for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The FBI page states: "Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb of the FBI's public affairs unit is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

In the months leading up to the Septmber 11, 2001 attack, it is reported, the Taliban "outlined various ways bin Laden could be dealt with. He could be turned over to the EU, killed by the Taliban, or made available as a target for Cruise missiles." The Bush administration did not accept the Taliban's offer.

"On September 20 2001," according to the Guardian, "the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer."

On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack "suspects" - Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, and possibly Khalid Al Midhar - were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged "the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."

Bin Laden, in a September 28, 2001 interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat, is reported to have said: "I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States."

Skeptics dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."

FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."

The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.

Bin Laden is the "prime suspect" in the September 11 attacks, said President Bush on September 17, 2001, and he pledged to capture him "dead or alive."

Milligazette (http://www.milligazette.com/dailyup...den_911_fbi.htm)

Nbadan
06-13-2006, 04:46 PM
A Pakistani named Ramzi Binalshibh may have coordinated the 911 attacks

Web site: Al Qaeda IDs 20th 9/11 hijacker
Saudi militant named in statement


(CNN) -- Al Qaeda identified a Saudi militant, who was killed in 2004, as the 20th hijacker in the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States, according to a statement published Tuesday on an Islamist Web site.

"Turki bin Fheid al-Muteiri -- Fawaz al-Nashmi -- may God accept him as a martyr (was) the one chosen by Sheikh Osama bin Laden to be the martyrdom-seeker number 20 in the raid on September 11, 2001," the statement said.

Al-Muteiri was not able to join the other hijackers in time for those attacks, the date of which had been pushed forward, the group said without elaborating.

"The (Sept. 11) operation was brought forward for some circumstances that brother Mohamed Atta explained to the general leadership, through brother Ramzi Binalshibh, God free him," the statement added.

Binalshibh, suspected of coordinating the 9/11 attacks, was arrested in 2002 in Karachi, Pakistan. He was once a roommate with Atta, the leader of the September attacks and the hijacker of American Airlines Flight 11 which crashed into the World Trade Center's north tower.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/911.hijacker/index.html)

xrayzebra
06-13-2006, 05:02 PM
Gee dan, I didn't know that. Are they sure?