Scary thought

[SPARKY]

Pop recently said in his radio show (as reported in this forum, IIRC) that the Spurs needed/wanted a "Derrick McKey type" forward who could play either forward position this summer.

Derrick McKey, for those of you just joining us, was a 6'10" 240 lbs. 15 year NBA vet who played for the Sonics and Pacers primarily with a final year stint in Philly. He indeed was able to play either the 3 or 4. Good range on his shot, decent rebounder, decent scorer and decent defender.

As I have looked over the list of available free agents, one name comes to mind when I think of Pop's description.

















http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/keith_van_horn.jpg

Yes, Keith Van Horn (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/keith_van_horn/index.html).

There's no other free agent or, for that matter, player in the league who is close to fitting McKey's profile.

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

LJ thought of that the other day too. :lmao

[angel_luv]

Well at least it is a person I like.

[Kori Ellis]

Well at least it is a person I like.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

Spurs have sucked the last two decades that the season has ended in 6-7 and then got the #1 draft pick because of it, so he's coming.

[Bruno]

There's no other free agent or, for that matter, player in the league who is close to fitting McKey's profile.

:smokin
McKey himself. He will only be 40 years old for the 2007 playoffs.
After all, he is 3 years younger than Malone.

[timvp]

Please don't remind me. I almost hurled when I came to the same conclusion.

The only difference is that McKey was a much, much better defender.

If the Spurs even call KVH I'm going to call for RC's head.

[angel_luv]

Please don't remind me. I almost hurled when I came to the same conclusion.

The only difference is that McKey was a much, much better defender.

If the Spurs even call KVH I'm going to call for RC's head.


It is weird because I was actually thinking earlier this week what it would be like to have KVH on the team.

I don't remember why- my mind wanders. :angel

Anyway, I didn't know what we would do with him and decided against the idea.

It is funny though how my thoughts coincided with this thread. Must be something in the air.

[clubalien]

I bet he has lots of expereince gaurding dirk in practice

[ChumpDumper]

Noel Felix.

[SPARKY]

We can only hope.

[angel_luv]

Noel Felix.

Now that would rock! Is that in the realm of possibility?

[ChumpDumper]

Now that would rock! Is that in the realm of possibility?Not if he keeps doing well.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm sorry, there's nothing quick about Keith Van Horn. I thought we were looking for someone athletic, not a shorter version of Shawn Bradley.

[clubalien]

dallas looking to give terry pay day
so they might not want to keep 14 mil KVH when they have TWO big man like dampier and diop.

remember when mavs needed big man now they have two good ones. WHen they aquired dampier he was suposed to be their now we have good defense big man but oddly enough it was dipo that is actual getting more mins.
Ofocurse they might still want someone to throw at shaq if they meet again.

I think KVH makes lots of threes an hey that is our game we got barry just to do that. KVH vet min going from one championship contender to a championship team like spurs. Some what likely. SO as a starter HELL NO. as a guy of the bench I think it actual is a good idea. Isn't oberto taking KVHs "slot" on team already though

[SPARKY]

Maybe the Knicks can buy out Rose's contract. Counting on KVH as a part of your defense?

:depressed

[Trainwreck2100]

Shawn Bradley.
http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/bbs/images/yahoo/thinking.gif

[greensborohill]

Ironically enough, a few years ago, when responding to all the comparisons to Larry Bird, Keith Van Horn himself said he wasn't comfortable with those comparisons and compared himself to Derrick McKey.

I think KVH could still do some things with the right amount of minutes. Don't expect much defense though.

[Bruno]

Not if he keeps doing well.

I've read that Seattle will likely sign Gelabale this summer. If they do it, Noel Felix will have to compete with one more guy to play SF.

[Kori Ellis]

I've read that Seattle will likely sign Gelabale this summer. If they do it, Noel Felix will have to compete with one more guy to play SF.

Gelabale is being brought in as the backup SG (if they can buyout him), who will sometimes swing to SF. Noel will play SF/PF.

[SPARKY]

I would have to think the Spurs are aware of Felix by this point. If they don't want him, it's not for lack of not realizing he is there.

[SPARKY]

Gelabale is being brought in as the backup SG (if they can buyout him), who will sometimes swing to SF. Noel will play SF/PF.

He should be unrestricted.

[Kori Ellis]

I would have to think the Spurs are aware of Felix by this point. If they don't want him, it's not for lack of not realizing he is there.

The Spurs can't sign Noel. He's already under contract with the Sonics (though not guaranteed). But yes, the Spurs are fully aware of him -- he was DPOY in the CBA, so they kept tabs on him all last season.

[SPARKY]

The Spurs can't sign Noel. He's already under contract with the Sonics (though not guaranteed). But yes, the Spurs are fully aware of him -- he was DPOY in the CBA, so they kept tabs on him all last season.

Hmmm...I thought he was signed for the remainder of the season?

[Bruno]

Gelabale is being brought in as the backup SG (if they can buyout him), who will sometimes swing to SF. Noel will play SF/PF.

I didn't know they will use him at SG (SF is his best position to me). There is too Damien Wilkins but you should know Sonics situation way better than me. As an outsider (and if Sonics don't do a trade this summer), I think that Noel Felix will have more playtime available at PF than SF next year.

[Kori Ellis]

Hmmm...I thought he was signed for the remainder of the season?

He signed for the remainder of last season, plus a unguaranteed contract for 2006-07. They have to guarantee him by January but up until then, he can't talk to other teams unless they release him. So he's automatically on their summer league team, in their training camp, etc unless something drastic happens.

[Kori Ellis]

I didn't know they will use him at SG (SF is his best position to me). There is too Damien Wilkins but you should know Sonics situation way better than me. As an outsider (and if Sonics don't do a trade this summer), I think that Noel Felix will have more playtime available at PF than SF next year.

They think that Gelabale is too small (6'5?) to guard small forwards in this league. So, supposedly, they are going to try to use him more at SG. He's almost the same size as Wilkins I believe.

Noel prefers to play PF (he never played SF in his life until the Sonics) so he doesn't mind. He just wants to make the league in any capacity.

There's probably going to be major changes in Seattle this summer anyway. So who knows what happens. Mikki Moore probably isn't picking up his player option because he wants more playing time. There's rumors that they are going to try to make a blockbuster move that could include any of Wilcox/Collison/Ridnour/Fortson/one of the young centers.

[baseline bum]

KVH is going to have a ring, so we could use his championship experience. If he doesn't win, we could trade for Antoine Walker.

[Solid D]

The Spurs have needed a 4/3 or long SF for several seasons. McKey played excellent defense so that's why KVH is a scary thought...because he doesn't play D.

Pop tried to sign Ulker's (Turkey) Karem Gonlum last June since he's a fairly mobile 6-10 Forward (PF) who defends pretty well. Efes ended up signing him though.

[megamanu]

I think Viktor Khryapa would be a good fit for what we need if we can somehow trade for him with the Trail Blazers. Other than that, I'm not sure who else would fit this role.

[spurs=bling]

Kvh!?!?!?!?!?

[Solid D]

Kvh!?!?!?!?!?

Keith Van Horn

[Bob Lanier]

KVH is going to have a ring, so we could use his championship experience.
:shootme

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, I'm not so clear on how Van Horn is like McKey. McKey was a glue guy who played great defense and hustled. I'm not sure what Van Horn is good at, except suddenly hitting backbreaking threes against the Spurs in a Game 7.

[spurs=bling]

Keith Van Horn
http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif

[strangeweather]

http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif
Great. Now I've got that commercial with Duncan in my head.

[spurs=bling]

Great. Now I've got that commercial with Duncan in my head.
:lol

I'm not listening lalalalala i can't hear you lalalalala

[angel_luv]

Great. Now I've got that commercial with Duncan in my head.


Haha! That is what I thought of right away too.

Good times!

[clubalien]

angel luv did You take that footage of the pessn with the wings yourself. or is it just from some movie?

[angel_luv]

angel luv did You take that footage of the pessn with the wings yourself. or is it just from some movie?


I don't know where it originally came from. Alamo 50 sent it to me. :)

[mavsfan1000]

Van Horn=Dirk stopper. Get him before it's too late.

[ShoogarBear]

http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif
I can't believe this is even being seriously discussed.

[SPARKY]

He signed for the remainder of last season, plus a unguaranteed contract for 2006-07. They have to guarantee him by January but up until then, he can't talk to other teams unless they release him. So he's automatically on their summer league team, in their training camp, etc unless something drastic happens.

That's just communism.

[Kori Ellis]

That's just communism.


:lol

Well they are treating him pretty good so far. He's spending the summer in L.A. working out with Earl Watson and he gets along very well with RAllen. But if they cut him, I certainly hope he gets a look from S.A.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao :lmao :lmao:lmao x 34083408320483209483098423098430928403298432098429 0483209328

[SA Gunslinger]

Thank god the chances of this happening are very remote.

But if it does happen, Van Horn playing a Danny Ferry type role doesn't sound so bad.

[Pandaemonaeon]

Derrick McKey's defense was underrated. His defense on Jordan was IMO the best from an individual standpoint. Comparing him to KVH makes me want to cry http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1955/emotcrying6in.gif

[polandprzem]

Well KVH beat Tim Duncan this year

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

he gets along very well with RAllen.

Every NBA baller should have a walking vagina for a friend that they don't have to worry about getting pregnant.

[spurs=bling]

Every NBA baller should have a walking vagina for a friend that they don't have to worry about getting pregnant.
:lol

[Solid D]

Tim Duncan has KVH's ownership papers in the glove-box or his car.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd take the Derrick McKey reference as one that specifically excludes Keith Van Horn, since the two share virtually no basketball qualities.

My hunch, though, that Pop has someone in mind; the reference was a bit obscure unless you are targeting someone who specifically reminds you of Derrick McKey. And I be shocked if the Spurs believe that they'll get their McKey-type through domestic, unrestricted free agents.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Pop was just telling Horry to get into better shape.

[SPARKY]

I think Donyel Marshall fits SPARKY's description

It does to a certain extent, though he's likely not available.

[Extra Stout]

Kenny Thomas doesn't remind me of Derrick McKey.

[SPARKY]

Kenny Thomas doesn't remind me of Derrick McKey.

...and he has worked out at the Spurs' practice facility in offseason(s?) past.