J.R. Smith update...dude has been hitting the gym!

[SsKSpurs21]

SUMMER LEAGUE UPDATE: Bower is hopeful that the Hornets' Brandon Bass, Kirk Snyder, J.R. Smith, Marcus Fizer and Linton Johnson will play for the summer league team in July in Las Vegas.

"And if not for all of it, at least for portions," Bower said. "We won't force anybody, obviously, but we are encouraged with their willingness to prepare and improve. It's a great midsummer checkup."

The Hornets could trade Smith, who will enter his third season this fall, before July. Smith clashed with Scott during the season and lost his starting job.

This summer, Smith has participated in workouts in Houston with John Lucas, a former NBA player and coach. Smith is working out with other NBA players such as Steve Francis and Mike James. And according to Smith's father, Earl, the 6-foot-6 shooting guard now is at 225 pounds with 1 percent body fat.

The Hornets could wait until after the summer league to trade Smith -- if they trade him at all -- so he can showcase his abilities for opposing scouts.

[thispego]

his DAD said this??? no questions asked, sign him up!

[Please_dont_ban_me]

1% body fat?

Is that even possible?

[Mr. Body]

His dad also says he can jump over the backboard, easy.

[CosmicCowboy]

1% body fat?

Is that even possible?

right before death.

[SpursWoman]

right before death.


Actually, that may be 2 weeks after death. :lol

[Ariel]

1% body fat?

Is that even possible?
The rest is probably all in his head.

[Streakyshooter08]

Do you guys think the Hornets are still interested in Barry? Would be cool if the Spurs could land him...

[Kori Ellis]

JR Smith was already listed at 220, so it's funny that it says he's now 225 with 1% body fat.

If all of those guys play, they should have one of the better summer league teams.

[Solid D]

1% body fat is questionable...probably 5-7% is more likely for a young kid, but gaining weight with pure muscle isn't, actually. Muscle weighs more than fat (although I'm sure this isn't new to anyone).

[MoSpur]

If he hit the weights full force this off-season its not impossible to have only 1% body fat. Gaining five punds in muscle is not easy to do.

[Solid D]

If he hit the weights full force this off-season its not impossible to have only 1% body fat. Gaining five punds in muscle is not easy to do.

Have you ever heard of "essential fat"...as in essential for a body to function?

[Ariel]

Have you ever heard of "essential fat"...as in essential for a body to function?
Exactly. I just can't function without my daily McDonald's fix.

[Solid D]

:lol

[MoSpur]

What does essential fat have to do with JR SMith supposedly gaining five pounds and having only 1% body fat?

[Solid D]

What does essential fat have to do with JR SMith supposedly gaining five pounds and having only 1% body fat?

Big Mo, I'm not a physician. I do know that the body has to have a certain percentage of essential fat in the system...like in the bones and organs...to function well and I'm pretty sure 1% is below the essential range.

It's probably best someone look it up to see the safe range...but there is a safe range.

I'll see if I can get a more definitive range, Big Mo.

[Ariel]

What does essential fat have to do with JR SMith supposedly gaining five pounds and having only 1% body fat?
There comes a point where losing fat is no longer beneficial, as it's essencial for life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat#Importance_for_living_things).

[Ariel]

Big Mo, I'm not a physician. I do know that the body has to have a certain percentage of essential fat in the system...like in the bones and organs...to function well and I'm pretty sure 1% is below the essential range.

It's probably best someone look it up to see the safe range...but there is a safe range.

I'll see if I can get a more definitive range, Big Mo.
See here (http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm).

Apparently 2% to 4% body fat is the essencial threshold, with athletes ranging between 6% to 13%.

[Solid D]

Why do have to talk about this at dinner time? :lol

[timvp]

There's no way he is at 1% body fat. The lowest I ever heard on an athlete was when Dikembe was a rookie he was around 3% body fat and the Nuggets thought that was dangerously low.

[21Spurs20]

There's no way he is at 1% body fat. The lowest I ever heard on an athlete was when Dikembe was a rookie he was around 3% body fat and the Nuggets thought that was dangerously low.

TD had 2% body fat last year.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

TD had 2% body fat last year.

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/draft_central_rafael_araujo.html

^ This kid has 16% body fat.

I know Duncan's a little slimmer, but I doubt he's 14% body fat slimmer.

[ChumpDumper]

This is bullshit. If Tim or JR had body fat that low, they'd be absorbing it from people when they shake their hands.

[Ariel]

Any chance this report came from HoopsWorld?

[Kori Ellis]

TD had 2% body fat last year.

No way.

[BrianBird]

TD had 2% body fat last year.

A person can safely drop down to 5-6 % as many professional body builders do during the weeks before a show. Any lower than 5% and you run the risk of organ and nervous system failure. if anyone has ever seen anyone with a body fat % lower than 4%, often times the exhibit symptoms such as distended stomach and swelling from water retention and rarely look as skinny as they are

[ChumpDumper]

Tim drank 2% milk last year, maybe.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Karl Malone was supposedly around 5% body fat.

Timmy Duncan is no mailman.

[Solid D]

Tim drank 2% milk last year, maybe.

:lmao

[zero signal]

Bruce Lee supposedly had 1% body fat.

Maybe that's why he died from taking an aspirin?

[21Spurs20]

nevermind, it was actually 10%.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

http://www.dashmag.com/images/Anorexic.jpg

[THE SIXTH MAN]

1% body fat?

Is that even possible?
T.O. and Chad Johnson are at 0%.

[Kori Ellis]

T.O. and Chad Johnson are at 0%.

No they aren't.

[milkyway21]

See here (http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm).

Apparently 2% to 4% body fat is the essencial threshold, with athletes ranging between 6% to 13%.swimmers need more body fats than the usual athletes though, maybe bet 15-16%.body fat.

for a 20-yr old J.R. Smith, a basketball player he has to maintain not less than 8%-10% body fat. That's around 17 lbs his total weight. :wakeup

if he's currently 1%=2.2 lbs. IMO, it's quite alarming than worth rejoicing. He's not on athletics.

[Solid D]

I didn't want to have to do this but....this famous photo is from the cover of Life Magazine of Biafran (Nigerian blockade) famine.

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/images/life/biafra.jpg

unfortunately this is what you would look like if you had 0 or 1% body fat

[Please_dont_ban_me]

^ Damn, that's horrible.

[TDMVPDPOY]

scott steiner

[Ariel]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/299/sofoklis16rd.jpg

'Fat is essential to your body'

Sincerely,
Sofoklis "Baby Shaq" Schortsanitis

[milkyway21]

The body fat percents are BS. The lowest NBA player ever was Jordan at 2-4%really? where did your get this % , ginobili_is_god?

BTW, anybody can tell me the exact % on the Admiral's body fat? My, i can't see an ouch of fat on David's body. He certainly is David in the real sense of the word

:wakeup

[rayray2k8]

I didn't want to have to do this but....this famous photo is from the cover of Life Magazine of Biafran (Nigerian blockade) famine.

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/images/life/biafra.jpg

unfortunately this is what you would look like if you had 0 or 1% body fat
Thats more like in the negatives man.
Jesus Christ.

[milkyway21]

I heard that Jordan was around 3 percent in his prime. I don't have a source though. I just remember clearly to 1996 or so. He was in incredible shape. Lance Armstrong is/was incredibly low.i checked & i found an article about his body fat %...


The average American male's percentage of body fat is 15-20%. The average professional athlete's is 7-8%. Jordan's body fat was measured at 4%.

Still, J.R. Smith's father must be kidding. 1% is too low.

[Solid D]

I just saw an article that said Lance Armstrong started the Tour de France at around 4-5%. I also saw that Jordan was once measured at 3.4%...So it seems from some of the articles that an athlete can be as low as in the 3s.

A Health book (Holt Health, 1994 edition) I have in my library says that a man's essential body fat required is 3% of their body weight. So it looks like anything lower than 3% draws on your essential fat and is considered unhealthy.

....and here is an article on Sports Performance and a paragraph on body fat.

http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/fatcent.htm

Fat-free Body Mass & Lean Body Mass
The fat-free body mass (FFBM) represents the body mass devoid of all fat whereas lean body mass (LBM) contains a small percentage of essential fat. LBM is a theoretical value developed by Behnke. For men Behnke considered it to be FFBM+3% essential fat and for females FFBM+12% fat (3% essential fat + 9% sex specific essential fat). Many researches use the terms FFBM and LBM interchangeably.

See, this forum is both entertaining and educational.

[Ariel]

I can't believe the average american man is 15-20 percent. That is super high. I am at 7.5%.
Huh?

Hello!!!

Super Size Me (http://www.supersizeme.com/)?

[thispego]

it was only a matter of time till gig told us his body fat %

[T Park]

Wasn't Terry Cummings, I think in the year he got snubbed for the All Star game, 91 92, at 3 or 4 percent body fat?

I remember he in one of th summers went at the weights and the excercises HARD CORE.

[T Park]

The kid in that picture looks eerily like Keon Clark.

[T Park]

aww roll eyes

tough shit.

[lordswing]

'twas in Health or something, and watched a video about walking as a good way of exercising, and my teacher said she had a 1% body fat. She definitely wasn't ripped, so you don't have to look like David Robinson to have low body fat.

[Solid D]

'twas in Health or something, and watched a video about walking as a good way of exercising, and my teacher said she had a 1% body fat. She definitely wasn't ripped, so you don't have to look like David Robinson to have low body fat.

It's a good thing you read this thread now, so that you can be informed.... because it sounds like your Health teacher was trying too hard to impress you.

[ChumpDumper]

'twas in Health or something, and watched a video about walking as a good way of exercising, and my teacher said she had a 1% body fat. She definitely wasn't ripped, so you don't have to look like David Robinson to have low body fat.She was so coming onto you. I hope you hit that.

[MoSpur]

http://www.op.co.kr/ii/t4/imgh/th200502/21/30/1401200826421947af04e32.jpg

[BrianBird]

I highly doubt Jordan had the lowest body fat % of any NBA player. I suspect most of these supposed body fat calculations came from skin fold calipers which are an unreliable source regardless of the number of measurement sites and more of a general ball park figure. The most accurate ways to calculate body fat are by using expensive and hard to find hydrodensitometry weighing or bioelectrical impedance machines. As a senior nutrition major i don't believe anyone that claims below 5% especially if they lead a lifestyle of contant strenuous physical activity. The body simply could not function under the strain of an NBA season.

[747]

She was so coming onto you. I hope you hit that.

Huge bonus in that she wouldnt be able to get pregnant since women stop menstrating once the drop below their essential body fat level (below 12%).

http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA53794/

[METALMiKE]

1% body fat?

Is that even possible?

DRob had !% body fat at one point I believe.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I highly doubt Jordan had the lowest body fat % of any NBA player. I suspect most of these supposed body fat calculations came from skin fold calipers which are an unreliable source regardless of the number of measurement sites and more of a general ball park figure. The most accurate ways to calculate body fat are by using expensive and hard to find hydrodensitometry weighing or bioelectrical impedance machines. As a senior nutrition major i don't believe anyone that claims below 5% especially if they lead a lifestyle of contant strenuous physical activity. The body simply could not function under the strain of an NBA season.

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2005/0913/photo/bol_bogues_195.jpg

[wildbill2u]

I don't give a shit about a player's damn body fat or what his mother thinks about her baby boy. I wanna know if he can play.

And with Smith I wanna know if he can play without an attitude about his minutes like he has had in N. O.

Pop's got enough personnel problems without babysitting a problem child.