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thepeopleslawyer
06-16-2006, 01:00 AM
Jay-Z: 'Cock the hot pistol and pop the hot' ... Krug?
NEW YORK (AP) -- Rappers have long proclaimed their love for Cristal, frequently mentioning the high-end champagne in songs and popping the corks of the clear, gold-labeled bottles in music videos and at nightclubs.

But the makers of Cristal don't seem to feel the same way about hip-hop -- at least that's how one rapper-turned-record executive sees it.

Multi-platinum rapper Jay-Z, now president and chief executive officer of Def Jam Records, has decided to boycott his once-beloved bubbly over comments from the managing director of the company that produces it.

In a special summer issue of The Economist magazine, Frederic Rouzaud, managing director of Louis Roederer, said the company viewed the affection for his company's champagne from rappers and their fans with "curiosity and serenity."

Asked by the magazine if the association between Cristal and the "bling lifestyle" could be detrimental, Rouzaud replied:

"That's a good question, but what can we do? We can't forbid people from buying it. I'm sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business."

The comments left a bad taste in Jay-Z's mouth. The rapper said he would pull Cristal from his small chain of popular sports lounges -- where bottles of Cristal sell for $450 (€357) and $600 (€476) -- as well as from his personal flutes.

"It has come to my attention that the managing director of Cristal, Frederic Rouzaud views the 'hip-hop' culture as 'unwelcome attention,"' Jay-Z said in a statement released Wednesday. "I view his comments as racist and will no longer support any of his products through any of my various brands including The 40/40 Club nor in my personal life."

Jay-Z plans to replace Cristal -- which a club spokesman said it could never stock enough of -- with Krug and Dom Perignon at the Manhattan and Atlantic City locations of his 40/40 Club. (There are plans for clubs in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Tokyo, Singapore, and Hong Kong, according to the club's Web site.)

Rouzaud did not return a message seeking comment. But it was the writer of the article, and not Rouzaud, who used the phrase "unwelcome attention." After Rouzaud's comments about Dom Perignon and Krug, scribe Gideon Rachman wrote: "Both Dom Perignon and Krug have had their share of unwelcome attention, too."

Still, Jay-Z spokesman Ron Berkowitz said his client remains offended.

"They're trying to distance themselves from the hip-hop community," Berkowitz said. "The hip-hop world certainly helped elevate the presence of Cristal. At the end of the day isn't the goal for any company to sell bottles?"

Cristal, which Roederer considers its "jewel," began appearing on the lips of many hip-hop devotees following an onslaught of mentions in rap songs as early as the 1990s.

Jay-Z's adoration goes back to at least 1996, when he rhymed on the song "Can't Knock the Hustle": "My motto, stack rocks like Colorado/Auto off the champagne, Cristal's by the bottle."

Others with a fondness for Cristal include Sean Combs, Kanye West, and Trina.

According to Agenda Inc., a brand strategy agency that tracks mentions in Billboard's top 20 songs, Cristal ranked number eight in 2005, behind other brands such as Mercedes, Nike, Bentley and Rolls Royce.

Louis Roederer was founded in 1776 and is still family-owned, according to its Web site. Cristal was created in 1876 exclusively for Tsar Alexander II. Roederer stopped making the champagne after 1917 but started again in the 1940s.

Boycotts aren't new to hip-hop. In 2003, Pepsi agreed to give $3 million (€2.38 million) to charity after Def Jam co-founder Russell Simmons threatened a boycott because the soda company canceled an endorsement deal with rapper Ludacris in the wake of complaints from commentator Bill O'Reilly.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/15/jayz.cristal.ap/index.html

SA Gunslinger
06-16-2006, 02:34 AM
I have only had Cristal once in my life and it's incredible.

It's ten times better than Dom Perignon, imo.

You know Jay-Z still gonna break some Cristal out on special occasions. He's just not gonna advertise it.

T Park
06-16-2006, 03:07 AM
its racist?

Do we need to break out the dictionary for Jay Z?

jman3000
06-16-2006, 03:26 AM
I've never had it ... can anybody atest to how good it tastes?

PM5K
06-16-2006, 04:01 AM
I like to pour it on strippers and suck and lick it off...

GIG's Doc
06-16-2006, 10:08 AM
I drink Cristal all the time. I do not plan on stopping. Fuck Jigga.

midgetonadonkey
06-16-2006, 10:10 AM
I heard Luke from 2 Live Crew on Stern yesterday and he said one should drink nothing but Cristal hours before pissing on a chick. Apparently it makes the piss smell better.

GIG's Doc
06-16-2006, 10:12 AM
I heard Luke from 2 Live Crew on Stern yesterday and he said one should drink nothing but Cristal hours before pissing on a chick. Apparently it makes the piss smell better.

I am not the only one who enjoys doing this? :smokin

MaNuMaNiAc
06-16-2006, 10:51 AM
"It has come to my attention that the managing director of Cristal, Frederic Rouzaud views the 'hip-hop' culture as 'unwelcome attention,"' Jay-Z said in a statement released Wednesday. "I view his comments as racist and will no longer support any of his products through any of my various brands including The 40/40 Club nor in my personal life."

WTF?? I don't like 'hip-hop' culture either, does that make me a racist? :lol what a moron!

atxrocker
06-16-2006, 11:07 AM
WTF?? I don't like 'hip-hop' culture either, does that make me a racist? :lol what a moron!


not sure that was the point. if your opinion is to not like hip hop or the culture, thats fine. but as a business owner of a product often used by a certain group, you would think it would be wise to not make comments such as hip hop bringing 'unwanted attention' to your business. thats like biting the hand that feeds you, or shitting where you eat so to speak.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-16-2006, 11:28 AM
A boycott? Damn, dawg, that's some gangsta shit.

Hopefully this outrage will bring him out of retirement and get him recording.

"Back when I was hardcore/
I would've killed you where you live/
Break into you house/
Gut yo' ass wif a shiv/
An economic beatdown/
that's what I'm gonna give/
when I bust out/
this grass roots initiative."

Word.

Spurminator
06-16-2006, 12:36 PM
I think it should be boycotted for being so overpriced.

MaNuMaNiAc
06-16-2006, 12:37 PM
not sure that was the point. if your opinion is to not like hip hop or the culture, thats fine. but as a business owner of a product often used by a certain group, you would think it would be wise to not make comments such as hip hop bringing 'unwanted attention' to your business. thats like biting the hand that feeds you, or shitting where you eat so to speak.
I'm talking about the comment about Cristal being racist. I couldn't give a crap if Jay - Z boycotts the pope http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

Mixability
06-16-2006, 12:42 PM
its racist?

Do we need to break out the dictionary for Jay Z?

What if KFC said they didn't like fat people eating at their restaurant, T Pork?


Would you boycott Trans-Fat?

atxrocker
06-16-2006, 12:43 PM
What if KFC said they didn't like fat people eating at their restaurant, T Pork?


Would you boycott Trans-Fat?


:lol :lol :lol

Jules
06-16-2006, 01:13 PM
Personally, I don't even care for Cristal. I'd rather have Sapphire on the rocks or Turkey staight up.

Cheers!

SpursWoman
06-16-2006, 01:18 PM
What if KFC said they didn't like fat people eating at their restaurant


If that were to happen, they'd eventually run out of customers. :fro

Jekka
06-16-2006, 01:21 PM
Man, I imagine Roederer likes anyone who can afford to buy it, but I don't think I'd be thrilled if I was making a product that was advertised in between violent and misogynistic lyrics. I have nothing against hip hop culture except for the violence it advocates, and I can kind of see how Roederer might consider it negative publicity.

TheSanityAnnex
06-16-2006, 01:28 PM
Man, I imagine Roederer likes anyone who can afford to buy it, but I don't think I'd be thrilled if I was making a product that was advertised in between violent and misogynistic lyrics. I have nothing against hip hop culture except for the violence it advocates, and I can kind of see how Roederer might consider it negative publicity.Their is an huge difference between "hip-hop/underground culture" and "rap/gangsta culture". Please don't confuse the two.

Jekka
06-16-2006, 01:31 PM
Their is an huge difference between "hip-hop/underground culture" and "rap/gangsta culture". Please don't confuse the two.

I should have put that in quotes, sorry, I was using the wording from the article.

TheSanityAnnex
06-16-2006, 01:33 PM
I should have put that in quotes, sorry, I was using the wording from the article.
No prob.



Rap is the ugly offspring of hip-hop.