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NBAFan
06-18-2006, 11:52 PM
Sitting at hotel. Ref and league shouldn't decide this game. But bad for you guys because of your whining and outspoken owner you won't win the trophy.
I didn't believeThe REF and league should decide the game. In my 20 years of watching NBA never show such a bias against one team.
Good luck next year.

mavsfan1000
06-19-2006, 12:43 AM
Sitting at hotel. Ref and league shouldn't decide this game. But bad for you guys because of your whining and outspoken owner you won't win the trophy.
I didn't believeThe REF and league should decide the game. In my 20 years of watching NBA never show such a bias against one team.
Good luck next year.
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

FreshPrince22
06-19-2006, 12:45 AM
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

And you couldn't see this coming? You must not watch a lot of D-Wade basketball. Amazing player made unstoppable by a whistle.

LuvBones
06-19-2006, 12:47 AM
It's so funny all you mav fans are complaining about the refs now. :lol

NBAFan
06-19-2006, 12:47 AM
Just watched my TIVO, wade did over the back violiation in the end when he caught the ball before the foul. Rest my point.

sabar
06-19-2006, 12:48 AM
Come back when Wade steps on Dirk's foot and Dirk gets called.

DirkAB
06-19-2006, 12:48 AM
Fuck that shit, superstars get calls, especially when they play aggressive by taking the ball to the rack. Dirk and Dallas are settling for jumpers all game long, that is why they are not getting to the line as much.

DirkAB
06-19-2006, 12:49 AM
Just watched my TIVO, wade did over the back violiation in the end when he caught the ball before the foul. Rest my point.

Fuck he did, all three points weren't in the front court when he caught it.

rayray2k8
06-19-2006, 12:51 AM
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.
Nah man.
I'll admit that the refs are screwing your team over.
Its just funny now that you're admitting it. :lol

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 12:52 AM
This is comical. Better than TV :lol

NBAFan
06-19-2006, 12:52 AM
look at your TIVO boy/gal before he caught when he was called for foul in final secs. he establish himself in the front and than caught the ball in air in back court. 101 basketball rules a turnover happen their. You will read about this in tommorrow paper. In short i don't have anything against miami or dallas. My point is the game was called unfair. I don't care if miami wins or dallas wins but i want boys in the floor decide game not somebody sitting in New York or 3 guys with stripes.

DirkAB
06-19-2006, 12:57 AM
than caught the ball in air in back court.

If he caught the ball in the backcourt in the air, how is that an over and back? Please explain the rule to me, since you apparently know it.

Shank
06-19-2006, 12:57 AM
I don't think that was a backcourt in the end. You see that same play all the time.

"Black" is a great Xbox game.

NBAFan
06-19-2006, 12:59 AM
ball in air in "back court" across the line. Read the NBA book rules before arguing with me. ok later gtg sleep all the hyper is killing me. I don't care who wins but a bad tainted series in short. I have a meeting tommorrow. Good luck to Miami and Dallas Fans.

baseline bum
06-19-2006, 01:00 AM
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

Forgot about game 3 of the west semis?


At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

game 4?

:lmao

DirkAB
06-19-2006, 01:02 AM
ball in air in "back court" across the line. Read the NBA book rules before arguing with me. ok later gtg sleep all the hyper is killing me. I don't care who wins but a bad tainted series in short. I have a meeting tommorrow. Good luck to Miami and Dallas Fans.

Bullshit that wasn't a backcourt violation, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Lp26
06-19-2006, 01:03 AM
This is bullshit. Mav fans, I'm pissed for you. Watch the replay. He wasn't even f'in fouled.

Disgusting

It can't be called this bad in Dallas, can it? . . .

:pctoss

mavsfan1000
06-19-2006, 01:04 AM
Damn now I wish the spurs were in Finals so they could beat the Heat hopefully. The mavs are as unpredicable as night and day. If the mavs win in 7 than I'll change my mind on it but I don't want the Heat to win it.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:04 AM
MAVS & SPURS FANS agree with each other?......i'm on the wrong board. LOL

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:07 AM
Just watched my TIVO, wade did over the back violiation in the end when he caught the ball before the foul. Rest my point.
Uh no he didn't. He caught the ball in front of the line.

strangeweather
06-19-2006, 01:07 AM
ball in air in "back court" across the line. Read the NBA book rules before arguing with me. ok later gtg sleep all the hyper is killing me. I don't care who wins but a bad tainted series in short. I have a meeting tommorrow. Good luck to Miami and Dallas Fans.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_8.html?nav=ArticleList

Section III-The Throw-In
a. The throw-in starts when the ball is at the disposal of a player entitled to the throw-in. He shall release the ball inbounds within 5 seconds from the time the throw-in starts. Until the passed ball has crossed the plane of the boundary, no player shall have any part of his person over the boundary line and teammates shall not occupy positions parallel or adjacent to the baseline if an opponent desires one of those positions. The defensive man shall have the right to be between his man and the basket.
b. On a throw-in which is not touched inbounds, the ball is returned to the original throw-in spot.
c. After a score, field goal or free throw, the latter coming as the result of a personal foul, any player of the team not credited with the score shall put the ball into play from any point out-of-bounds at the endline of the court where the point(s) were scored. He may pass the ball to a teammate behind the endline; however, the five-second throw-in rule applies.
d. After a free throw violation by the shooter or his teammate, the throw-in is made from out-of-bounds at either end of the free throw line extended.
e. Any ball out-of-bounds in a team's frontcourt or at the midcourt line cannot be passed into the backcourt. On all backcourt and midcourt violations, the ball shall be awarded to the opposing team at the midcourt line, and must be passed into the frontcourt.
EXCEPTION: During the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period, the ball may be passed anywhere (frontcourt or backcourt) on the court.
f. A throw-in which touches the floor, or any object on or outside the boundary line, or touches anything above the playing surface is a violation. The ball must be thrown directly inbounds.
EXCEPTION: Rule 8-Section III-c.
PENALTY: Violation of this rule is loss of possession, and the ball must be inbounded at the previous spot of the throw-in.

:owned

infinite styles
06-19-2006, 01:08 AM
This is bullshit. Mav fans, I'm pissed for you. Watch the replay. He wasn't even f'in fouled.

Disgusting

It can't be called this bad in Dallas, can it? . . .

:pctoss

You must have been busy watching the Pistons in the second round and didn't notice the calls being thrown out in the Spurs/Mavs series where the mavs were getting all of these calls.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:08 AM
Damn now I wish the spurs were in Finals so they could beat the Heat hopefully. The mavs are as unpredicable as night and day. If the mavs win in 7 than I'll change my mind on it but I don't want the Heat to win it.

Oh hell naw...you wanted this scenario now you got it. When the Spurs were saying that the refs were not making calls against your team, a bunch of you guys said we were whiners.

Sack up, nut up and MAN UP now. You wanted a title chance. Here you go. Either you win the next two or don't cry about it.

infinite styles
06-19-2006, 01:10 AM
Oh hell naw...you wanted this scenario now you got it. When the Spurs were saying that the refs were not making calls against your team, a bunch of you guys said we were whiners.

Sack up, nut up and MAN UP now. You wanted a title chance. Here you go. Either you win the next two or don't cry about it.
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:10 AM
http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_8.html?nav=ArticleList

Section III-The Throw-In
a. The throw-in starts when the ball is at the disposal of a player entitled to the throw-in. He shall release the ball inbounds within 5 seconds from the time the throw-in starts. Until the passed ball has crossed the plane of the boundary, no player shall have any part of his person over the boundary line and teammates shall not occupy positions parallel or adjacent to the baseline if an opponent desires one of those positions. The defensive man shall have the right to be between his man and the basket.
b. On a throw-in which is not touched inbounds, the ball is returned to the original throw-in spot.
c. After a score, field goal or free throw, the latter coming as the result of a personal foul, any player of the team not credited with the score shall put the ball into play from any point out-of-bounds at the endline of the court where the point(s) were scored. He may pass the ball to a teammate behind the endline; however, the five-second throw-in rule applies.
d. After a free throw violation by the shooter or his teammate, the throw-in is made from out-of-bounds at either end of the free throw line extended.
e. Any ball out-of-bounds in a team's frontcourt or at the midcourt line cannot be passed into the backcourt. On all backcourt and midcourt violations, the ball shall be awarded to the opposing team at the midcourt line, and must be passed into the frontcourt.
EXCEPTION: During the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period, the ball may be passed anywhere (frontcourt or backcourt) on the court.
f. A throw-in which touches the floor, or any object on or outside the boundary line, or touches anything above the playing surface is a violation. The ball must be thrown directly inbounds.
EXCEPTION: Rule 8-Section III-c.
PENALTY: Violation of this rule is loss of possession, and the ball must be inbounded at the previous spot of the throw-in.

:owned

You know better than to put a rule up in here. You know damn well that most 'basketball' fans don't know NBA rules...they just think they do.

Buddy Holly
06-19-2006, 01:11 AM
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

Kinda like 50 freethrows and 32 freethrows and weak phantom call on Bowen.

So easy do they forget.

strangeweather
06-19-2006, 01:11 AM
You know better than to put a rule up in here. You know damn well that most 'basketball' fans don't know NBA rules...they just think they do.
He was the one who said to look at the rules before arguing with him. :lol

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:15 AM
The MAVS will win in seven!

No Stack and it was still a close game.

We'll be in Dallas for the rest of the series.

I wouldn't worry too much.

MannyIsGod
06-19-2006, 01:16 AM
Godamn, I know the Spurs can't win a title, but watching the Mavs go through the same shit we did is pretty sweet.

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 01:20 AM
He was the one who said to look at the rules before arguing with him. :lol

You know Mavs fans can't read though. Why rub it in their faces?

Buddy Holly
06-19-2006, 01:24 AM
The MAVS will win in seven!

No Stack and it was still a close game.

We'll be in Dallas for the rest of the series.

I wouldn't worry too much.

With Stack and you got blown out.


:lol

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:32 AM
You know Mavs fans can't read though. Why rub it in their faces?


Why are you on this thread? MAVS/Spurs/Pistons are all good teams. They all have a better chance of winning a title than the cavs.

Maybe if Lebron would stop settling for jumpshots in the 4th qtr. vs. Detroit maybe your team would have a little more respect.

Please do us a favor and STFU! :angel

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:34 AM
He was the one who said to look at the rules before arguing with him. :lol

Man you know myopic Mavs fans can't read that shit...type too dayum small...:lol

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:34 AM
With Stack and you got blown out.


:lol

Mavs will not lose in Dallas. :wakeup

mavsfan1000
06-19-2006, 01:37 AM
Kinda like 50 freethrows and 32 freethrows and weak phantom call on Bowen.

So easy do they forget.
Not quite. Miami got 6 more three throws in the ratio but oh well. Dallas in 7.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:37 AM
The MAVS will win in seven!

No Stack and it was still a close game.

We'll be in Dallas for the rest of the series.

I wouldn't worry too much.

Dude are you serious? Did you see this game? Your boys choked again.

The last time a team won all three of the middle games were Detroit in 2004 and we know what happened there.

Guess who was on the opposing side of the loss? Gary Payton and Shaq. Don't think that those two don't remember that scenario.

Good luck trying to win two games cause that's a daunting task.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:39 AM
Mavs will not lose in Dallas. :wakeup

Didn't your team lose a game six in the playoffs? Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Admit it, your boys choked up two lungs and four pairs of nuts in this one.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:46 AM
Dude are you serious? Did you see this game? Your boys choked again.

The last time a team won all three of the middle games were Detroit in 2004 and we know what happened there.

Guess who was on the opposing side of the loss? Gary Payton and Shaq. Don't think that those two don't remember that scenario.

Good luck trying to win two games cause that's a daunting task.


It's a task I'll admit that but, Miami won 3 in a row and nobody thought that was going to happen. Besides, the MAVS play better in Dallas. :wakeup

ATX Spur
06-19-2006, 01:49 AM
Karma suuuuucks, doesn't it? Biased calls in one series catch up with you the next.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 01:52 AM
Didn't your team lose a game six in the playoffs? Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Admit it, your boys choked up two lungs and four pairs of nuts in this one.


HELLO!!!!!! we were missing a key piece (J. Terry).


It's kind of funny how alot of teams choke when playing Miami in Miami. Why is that? Hmmmm. :wakeup

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 01:52 AM
Why are you on this thread? MAVS/Spurs/Pistons are all good teams. They all have a better chance of winning a title than the cavs.

Maybe if Lebron would stop settling for jumpshots in the 4th qtr. vs. Detroit maybe your team would have a little more respect.

Please do us a favor and STFU! :angel

You Mavs fans are so predictable. The only teams that have a better chance of winning the title this year that the Cavs do are the Heat and yes, your Mavs. If the Pistons or Spurs win the 2006 NBA Championship, I will be just one of the millions of shocked people. The Cavs were one game away from the ECF, and thats because they've been relying on one star. Even Kobe couldn't get his team to the NBA Finals alone, but I still have respect for him as a player. He's good, so is Lebron.

P.S. Why do you insist in typing MAVS in all caps? Does that make you feel better about being down 3-2. Does it help ease the sadness that comes with never having won an NBA Championship?

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:52 AM
It's a task I'll admit that but, Miami won 3 in a row and nobody thought that was going to happen. Besides, the MAVS play better in Dallas. :wakeup

Not after a loss they don't. Once again the Mavs had command of a situation and squandered it. Do you really want a recap of how the Mavs almost were not even going to be in Miami playing the Spurs. Spurs were down 3-1 AND FORCE A GAME SEVEN BY WINNING GAME SIX ON YOUR FLOOR!!!

Hello...is this damn thing on? Yo GMB give me a little volume in my headset!!

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 01:54 AM
Not after a loss they don't. Once again the Mavs had command of a situation and squandered it. Do you really want a recap of how the Mavs almost were not even going to be in Miami playing the Spurs. Spurs were down 3-1 AND FORCE A GAME SEVEN BY WINNING GAME SIX ON YOUR FLOOR!!!

Hello...is this damn thing on? Yo GMB give me a little volume in my headset!!

GMo, its like talking to a wall. Just stop and save yourself the time.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 01:58 AM
You're right. I need to get some sleep....lol

Naw...can't. Guiterrez from the Herald is gonna talk about Avery and Sefko's exchange...lol

MWILL
06-19-2006, 02:05 AM
You Mavs fans are so predictable. The only teams that have a better chance of winning the title this year that the Cavs do are the Heat and yes, your Mavs. If the Pistons or Spurs win the 2006 NBA Championship, I will be just one of the millions of shocked people. The Cavs were one game away from the ECF, and thats because they've been relying on one star. Even Kobe couldn't get his team to the NBA Finals alone, but I still have respect for him as a player. He's good, so is Lebron.

P.S. Why do you insist in typing MAVS in all caps? Does that make you feel better about being down 3-2. Does it help ease the sadness that comes with never having won an NBA Championship?

You cavs fans are a trip!

The Pistons were playing with you! Cleveland had no chance in hell pulling off an upset. WAKE UP!

I type MAVS in caps because it's my team. Win or lose this series I'll continue to do the same. :wakeup

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:08 AM
You cavs fans are a trip!

The Pistons were playing with you! Cleveland had no chance in hell pulling off an upset. WAKE UP!

I type MAVS in caps because it's my team. Win or lose this series I'll continue to do the same. :wakeup

Dude do you even watch basketball? The Pistons did the ultimate choke job of their own in that series. The Cavs had their chances and I bet you next year they'll have the Pistons' lunch in some games.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 02:12 AM
Not after a loss they don't. Once again the Mavs had command of a situation and squandered it. Do you really want a recap of how the Mavs almost were not even going to be in Miami playing the Spurs. Spurs were down 3-1 AND FORCE A GAME SEVEN BY WINNING GAME SIX ON YOUR FLOOR!!!

Hello...is this damn thing on? Yo GMB give me a little volume in my headset!!


No need for a recap. I remember plenty of times when the Spurs had the lead and pissed it away. (GAME 7 on your home floor!!) :wakeup

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 02:12 AM
At least someone agrees with me. Spurs fans that deny there is a bias for the Heat are kidding themselves. Heat 49 freethrows Mavs 25 freethrows. Oh yeah don't forget that phantom foul on Dirk with 1.9 seconds left. Wade got 26 freethrows which is more than the whole Dallas team got.

He got 25 FTs which is exactly what your team got and only one more attempt than Dirk (24) in Game 3 against SA where Dirk made 21 which is the same amount Wade made tonight... let's not forget about the phantom call on Shaq in Game 3 on Dirk, or Dirk running into Duncan's foot and rolling his ankle... or the fact that I said before this series even started that Mavs fans will have to prepare to see Shaq and D-Wade getting the calls that Dirk, Harris, and Company have been getting these whole playoffs and that they better not complain because Mavs fans have been so quick to call out Spurs and Suns for bitching about officiating...

yes, it was a little one-sided tonight, but it was also that way when Bowen gets called for a touch foul 19 ft from the basket to get Dirk 2 FTs late in Game 4...my basic argument is that what goes around comes around...

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 02:13 AM
Oh yeah - I forgot... Mavs 49/50 FTs in Game 1 of 2003 WCF, which enabled them to steal that game but still lose in 6...

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:14 AM
No need for a recap. I remember plenty of times when the Spurs had the lead and pissed it away. (GAME 7 on your home floor!!) :wakeup

Yeah but at least the Spurs didn't fuck up a chance to win a title on their first try.

This team is about to become the biggest choke artists known in sports.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 02:18 AM
Dude do you even watch basketball? The Pistons did the ultimate choke job of their own in that series. The Cavs had their chances and I bet you next year they'll have the Pistons' lunch in some games.


I do watch Basketball and I know that Cavs can't beat Detroit.
Stop looking at the sparkling cherries...it's messing with your mind.

SOME GAMES!! SOME GAMES!! how about betting if Cleveland & Detroit meet again in the playoffs. Detroit would do the same thing. :wakeup

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 02:19 AM
You cavs fans are a trip!

The Pistons were playing with you! Cleveland had no chance in hell pulling off an upset. WAKE UP!

I type MAVS in caps because it's my team. Win or lose this series I'll continue to do the same. :wakeup

Is that how you look at this series also? The mavs are playing with the HEAT? Cleveland had a very good chance of winning that series. They just didn't. Its not the end of the world. They should have won on their home floor, but I knew the second they didn't that the series was over. I didn't expect them to make the finals at the beginning of the season or even hang with the Pistons, so it was a good showing IMO.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:28 AM
I do watch Basketball and I know that Cavs can't beat Detroit.
Stop looking at the sparkling cherries...it's messing with your mind.

SOME GAMES!! SOME GAMES!! how about betting if Cleveland & Detroit meet again in the playoffs. Detroit would do the same thing. :wakeup

Dude I see about 150 games a year BEFORE the playoffs and I see them in person. That series between the Cavs and Pistons was good because the Cavs didn't give up and they played TEAM BALL.

I bet if those two teams do meet again that they the Cavs will beat them. The Cavs are reloading and learning how to play. They almost made the ECF with one super star and role players while the Pistons had four.

If the Pistons were that good, an above average team like the Heat wouldn't have taken them down. The Pistons are a mess dude. Even their fans will tell you that. They screwed up with their bickering.

MWILL
06-19-2006, 02:34 AM
Is that how you look at this series also? The mavs are playing with the HEAT? Cleveland had a very good chance of winning that series. They just didn't. Its not the end of the world. They should have won on their home floor, but I knew the second they didn't that the series was over. I didn't expect them to make the finals at the beginning of the season or even hang with the Pistons, so it was a good showing IMO.



Cleveland had a chance if they played L. Huhges in the game he returned to the team but, they didn't. They would of won their home game if Lebron would just drive to the basket but, he didn't. It's mistakes like that is why I didn't think Cavs would beat detroit.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:36 AM
Cleveland had a chance if they played L. Huhges in the game he returned to the team but, they didn't. They would of won their home game if Lebron would just drive to the basket but, he didn't. It's mistakes like that is why I didn't think Cavs would beat detroit.

And if your team would stop being a jump shooting team you'd go to the free throw line more. They didn't play Hughes that game because he just came back from a funeral.

Dayum again...is this thing on????

Kori Ellis
06-19-2006, 02:38 AM
I know Mavs fans are arguing that Dirk didn't foul with 1.9 seconds left.

Maybe Dirk didn't (I can't see from this angle) but someone fouled him :)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:39 AM
That's a foul. They were calling hand checking all game.

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 02:41 AM
I know Mavs fans are arguing that Dirk didn't foul with 1.9 seconds left.

Maybe Dirk didn't (I can't see from this angle) but someone fouled him :)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg


Oh no! But according to Legler, Anthony, and Pippen, no one "affected his shooting hand, so you just hate to see the game end on a play like this"

Personlly, I don't think you have to have played in the league or be on ESPN to realize that D-Wade isn't just going to miss a layup that badly (bounced off backboard) without some kind of influential contact - and this picture proves that Dirk's hand was on his hip and Harris hit his right arm at the elbow

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 02:43 AM
He's right handed.

Kori, can you e-mail me that photo to my e-mail address please?

I want to use it on an op/ed

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 02:46 AM
He's right handed.

Kori, can you e-mail me that photo to my e-mail address please?

I want to use it on an op/ed

Yeah, I know - i was calling those NBA shootaround guys idiots because anyone can tell that D-Wade had to be affected at least a little on that play... maybe if Mavs moved feet instead of slapping all the time...

MWILL
06-19-2006, 02:51 AM
Dude I see about 150 games a year BEFORE the playoffs and I see them in person. That series between the Cavs and Pistons was good because the Cavs didn't give up and they played TEAM BALL.

I bet if those two teams do meet again that they the Cavs will beat them. The Cavs are reloading and learning how to play. They almost made the ECF with one super star and role players while the Pistons had four.

If the Pistons were that good, an above average team like the Heat wouldn't have taken them down. The Pistons are a mess dude. Even their fans will tell you that. They screwed up with their bickering.

It was a good series but, Lebron started to take over at home and screwed it up with his bad shot selections. His teammates were no longer involved. Please tell me you saw that!

I know Detroit is a mess but, we were talking about Cavs & Pistons not Heat & Pistons. YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THE TOPIC!! Even when they were bickering with themselves they still beat the Cavs.

Please get off the regular season stuff, Cleveland needs to show it in the playoffs.

Now that I gave you my Dumbass reason, you can give me you Stupid ass response. then i'll read it in the morn......Goodnite to you & Missallthat.

windboy226
06-19-2006, 02:53 AM
I know Mavs fans are arguing that Dirk didn't foul with 1.9 seconds left.

Maybe Dirk didn't (I can't see from this angle) but someone fouled him :)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg

And you don't know exactly when the whistle was called with that picture. There's also another view of this picture:
http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/wade5_600_060618.jpg

It looks like the ref was calling it on Dirk for the hand on the back. There was contact-no doubt about that..but that's an extremely ticky tack foul to call on the last play-especially since Wade completely straight armed Terry and hooked Josh before getting to the basket. Obviously, the Mavs aren't going to get much sympathy from Spurs fans but it really is a shame that the NBA and its officials have played such a BIG role in determining so much of the outcomes in the playoffs(not just the finals).

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 02:58 AM
And you don't know exactly when the whistle was called with that picture. There's also another view of this picture:
http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/wade5_600_060618.jpg

It looks like the ref was calling it on Dirk for the hand on the back. There was contact-no doubt about that..but that's an extremely ticky tack foul to call on the last play-especially since Wade completely straight armed Terry and hooked Josh before getting to the basket. Obviously, the Mavs aren't going to get much sympathy from Spurs fans but it really is a shame that the NBA and its officials have played such a BIG role in determining so much of the outcomes in the playoffs(not just the finals).

Those pictures are obviously taken split seconds apart if just because of position of Harris's hand between the two (above Wade's arm in 1st pic and below it in the 2nd pic) and not to mention the movement of DWade's skin after Harris touches his arm (apparent in second pic) - no doubt that Salvatore called it on the wrong guy, but also I think he may have called it finally on Dirk because from his angle, he assummed that Dirk's swipe made contact in addition to the ticky tack hand in the back...

windboy226
06-19-2006, 03:03 AM
Those pictures are obviously taken split seconds apart if just because of position of Harris's hand between the two (above Wade's arm in 1st pic and below it in the 2nd pic) and not to mention the movement of DWade's skin after Harris touches his arm (apparent in second pic) - no doubt that Salvatore called it on the wrong guy, but also I think he may have called it finally on Dirk because from his angle, he assummed that Dirk's swipe made contact in addition to the ticky tack hand in the back...

Hmm..well the original pic could be after Devin hears the whistle called. Either way(Dirk or Harris) it's a tough way to lose a game. Honestly, I don't even think Wade had that great of a game. Played horribly through 3 quarters but hit some big shots in the 4th and OT. Hopefully Dallas can rebound and take the last 2 at home.

MissAllThat
06-19-2006, 03:05 AM
It was a good series but, Lebron started to take over at home and screwed it up with his bad shot selections. His teammates were no longer involved. Please tell me you saw that!

You do realize that the Cavs only lost game 6 by 2 points right? The reason they lost that game was because they couldn't grab a defensive rebound to save their lives in the last minute of the 4th. Hughes would have been great to have and probably would have won them the series. It was an unfortunate situation though, and had they grabbed just one rebound in the last minute instead of letting Detroit make 3 attempts to score then finally fouling Chauncey out of desperation, they probably would have won.

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 03:06 AM
Hmm..well the original pic could be after Devin hears the whistle called. Either way(Dirk or Harris) it's a tough way to lose a game. Honestly, I don't even think Wade had that great of a game. Played horribly through 3 quarters but hit some big shots in the 4th and OT. Hopefully Dallas can rebound and take the last 2 at home.

Yeah, I know the feeling - Dirk in Game 5 vs. the Suns had an ok first 3 quarters, then goes 9-9 FT in the 4th, hits a few big 3's and has like 24 (i think?) 4 quarter points to end up with 50/12 and Suns lose in 6...

Kori Ellis
06-19-2006, 03:07 AM
Honestly, I don't even think Wade had that great of a game. Played horribly through 3 quarters but hit some big shots in the 4th and OT.

Damn give him some more credit. He was clutch as hell when it mattered most.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 03:09 AM
Hmm..well the original pic could be after Devin hears the whistle called. Either way(Dirk or Harris) it's a tough way to lose a game. Honestly, I don't even think Wade had that great of a game. Played horribly through 3 quarters but hit some big shots in the 4th and OT. Hopefully Dallas can rebound and take the last 2 at home.

Dayum give the guy credit. He scored over 40 points again and put his team on his back to help win the game.

He became the leader of this team in this series.

Geez.....talk about bitter and myopic on views.

sabar
06-19-2006, 03:12 AM
The world through the eyes of a Mav are pretty clouded I guess.
Wade was so clutch.

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 03:16 AM
"Wait, I'm from Dallas - who is Dwayne Wade?"

RonMexico
06-19-2006, 03:17 AM
"Oh, yeah - he's that guy on the other team who is kicking our asses... if you lived here, you'd think we lost because the refs screwed us or we were at a hotel that distracted us from winning or because Stackhouse... blah, blah..."

windboy226
06-19-2006, 03:22 AM
Dayum give the guy credit. He scored over 40 points again and put his team on his back to help win the game.

He became the leader of this team in this series.

Geez.....talk about bitter and myopic on views.

Uh not bitter or myopic on views....Wade is a great player and came through in the clutch but he played much much better in game 4. Tonight I thought the Mavs did a much better job of containing him until the 4th. He's clearly the best player in the series right now but the Mavs have given away 2 games in the finals and clearly choked under pressure. I had problems with the officiating in a big way tonight but don't really feel like arguing with some of you for days on end. I'm sure it's easy label all Mavs fans as trolls or stupid..but alot of us aren't...I'm a pretty realistic fan. We gave away a ton of opportunities tonight, Wade came through in the clutch(doesn't really mean he had a great game though..if he had played like he had in the 4th the Mavs would have lost by 10 or more) and I WISH Dirk would come through in the same way, and we weren't helped by the questionable calls. If this makes me stupid or a homer then go ahead and call me a troll..but I notice no matter what I say or how respectful I am of this site and the posters there's some of you who only see the Mavericks underneath my name.

nbascribe
06-19-2006, 03:43 AM
It was a good series but, Lebron started to take over at home and screwed it up with his bad shot selections. His teammates were no longer involved. Please tell me you saw that!

I know Detroit is a mess but, we were talking about Cavs & Pistons not Heat & Pistons. YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THE TOPIC!! Even when they were bickering with themselves they still beat the Cavs.

Please get off the regular season stuff, Cleveland needs to show it in the playoffs.

Now that I gave you my Dumbass reason, you can give me you Stupid ass response. then i'll read it in the morn......Goodnite to you & Missallthat.

Cleveland did show it in the playoffs. What you gonna do now, fault a team that hadn't made the playoffs in years.

DirkAB
06-19-2006, 07:58 AM
I know Mavs fans are arguing that Dirk didn't foul with 1.9 seconds left.

Maybe Dirk didn't (I can't see from this angle) but someone fouled him :)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg


Nice pic, now quit your whinning Mav bitches!!! He was obviously fouled, whether or not it was called on the right person, so STFU. Instead of bitching about the refs, maybe AJ should try and figure out a way to try and contain DWade. All his politicing to the media is getting really old. Heat in 6.

LEONARD
06-19-2006, 08:00 AM
I don't want to see any whining from Mavs fans...the Mavs shouldn't be in the spot they're in and it's NOT because of the officiating...

Mavs still win the last 2 games...the Heat can't win in Dallas. :fro

1Parker1
06-19-2006, 08:05 AM
You must not watch a lot of D-Wade basketball. Amazing player made unstoppable by a whistle.


:lol Wow, that summarizes Wade to a T. After yesterday's game, instead of being impressed with the 30+ point performance, I hate him even more. I know it's not logical and people will clamor saying I'm nuts and that he's amazing, etc, etc, but the love he gets from refs is sickening. And the drama (Oh, I hurt my knee, i can't walk!, Oh I had the flu and was on IV's!) etc, followed by crazy "brilliant" 30 point perfformnaces in which he seems absolutely fine and then is deemed basketball God is getting annoying.

Islymore
06-19-2006, 08:18 AM
^ Man if I dont agree with you... He just gets under my skin. I used to crush on the dude... but... it all started with that commercial...

FALLS 7 TIMES, GETS UP 8 or some ish... *cue flashback of commercial*

and... I dunno... since then... I havent been diggin him as much.

bulletedge
06-19-2006, 08:29 AM
Whatever that was that we watched last night...oh well, it IS the NBA. If the Mavs win this series I cannot wait to see all of the posts on here about how Dallas didn't REALLY win.

This forum is almost as predictable as NBA officiating.

MadDog73
06-19-2006, 08:31 AM
This forum is almost as predictable as NBA officiating.


You mean, this forum is bullshit?

That's not a very nice thing to say... :angel

bulletedge
06-19-2006, 08:35 AM
LOL MadDog!

spurster
06-19-2006, 09:22 AM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg

This picture doesn't prove a foul. You can't tell how far away the hand is from the arm. The other angle seems to be at the same time.

Basically, it was a ticky-tak superstar bailout foul.

MadDog73
06-19-2006, 09:26 AM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade2_412.jpg

This picture doesn't prove a foul. You can't tell how far away the hand is from the arm. The other angle seems to be at the same time.

Basically, it was a ticky-tak superstar bailout foul.


Not to mention, they didn't call that a foul... they called the foul on Dirk.