Spurs Acquire Matt Bonner And Eric Williams From Toronto For Rasho

[TDMVPDPOY]

another sad day that a player has departed, anyway wiiiiiii we got rid of him hahaha

[Horry For 3!]

I like Bonner's ability to hit the outside shot

[timvp]

Colangelo said yesterday that the deal was agreed to about a week ago, but only finalized yesterday after Eric Williams' player option for next season was officially exercised.

Interesting tidbit. No wonder word about Javtokas coming to San Antonio starting growing around that point.

[picnroll]

Would a S&T of Nazr for Washington's Haywood be an upgrade? Eddie Johnson and Haywood reportedly don't get along and Haywoods got a pretty reasonable contract.

[furry_spurry]

Interesting tidbit. No wonder word about Javtokas coming to San Antonio starting growing around that point.
Also makes interesting the original rumor about Oberto for Bonner- I wonder if that was possibly a plan in case Williams opted out- which he wouldn't have- but just in case he pulled an Anthony Carter.

Just to play devil's advocate- what if Robertas does not come now??

[mattyc]

Good luck to Rasho.

Originally thought this was a bit of a nothing trade, but timvp is usually right so I'm hoping Bonner can play a role.

[RON ARTEST]

Didn't seem to have those problems in SA.
hes a chucker, period. the spurs have a great team, why would you want to mess it up with his dumbass.

[RON ARTEST]

I like Bonner's ability to hit the outside shot
but is that one of the spurs needs? damn they already have barry, horry and finley. they need a bigman who can rebound not a player who plays no defense like bonner who likes to shoot threes all the time and another 34 year old like williams. but they got rid of rashos contract which is a miracle so i guess thats a good thing.

[Streakyshooter08]

but is that one of the spurs needs? damn they already have barry, horry and finley. they need a bigman who can rebound not a player who plays no defense like bonner who likes to shoot threes all the time and another 34 year old like williams. but they got rid of rashos contract which is a miracle so i guess thats a good thing.

Well, if you look at what the Spurs did against Dallas/ Sacramento, it makes sense. I think Pop wants to have a player next to Duncan who is able to strech the floor because of his shooting ability to make the penetration easier for Tony and Manu. I guess we will see Duncan a lot more at C next year with Bonner/ Horry at the 4.

You get a 3pt threat that hustles for a C that we did not use at at all and makes about 7 mio a year. Both players are in the last year of their contracts, so they also might have some trad value to make other players like Barry more interesting if they package him with Williams for example. Rasho's contract is off the books which will help a bit in free agency. I expect some other minor moves so it was a good trade for us.

[MrChug]

Rasho gone!?!!?!?? Oh happy day!!!!!!!!! :elephant

...I know it's been a said before, but neither Matt Bonner either/nor Eric Williams will be wearing a Spurs jersey next year. This move was only to free up cap room so do NOT get attached. :smokin

[ducks]

but is that one of the spurs needs? damn they already have barry, horry and finley. they need a bigman who can rebound not a player who plays no defense like bonner who likes to shoot threes all the time and another 34 year old like williams. but they got rid of rashos contract which is a miracle so i guess thats a good thing.
barry is on the block
horry is getting old
booner is 26 hello

[1Parker1]

Best of Luck to Rasho, it's best for him since he'll get more playing time in Toronto than he did here. Plus he's leaving with one more ring than he had coming in. :)

My heartfelt condolences to Angel_luv and Rashofan...Go Raptors?

[MI21]

I'm just going to say Matt Bonner could be Danny Ferry-esque for the Spurs.

Not sure if it's been said, but thats my opinion.

Decent trade for sure.

[strikemode14]

Great trade for the Spurs

They get rid of a huge contract to get two smaller contracts that expire soon.

Good trade for the Raptors

They get some much needed defensive help at the center.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I wonder what teams would want to do a signandtrade for Nazr. It seems like the Spurs are looking at that option. But with who?

I think the Bulls are too obvious. I also think our front office is shrewd enough to use letting him go to Chicago as leverage to get some other team to agree to a deal to get us our long small forward.

Atlanta would seem to be a good candidate with their glut of long wings, along with the fact they liked him when he was there.

That said, they also are too obvious. IMO, we'll do a S&T, but it will be one of those out of left field type deals that no one saw coming. Of course, if they want to go get someone like Childress and prove me wrong, I'm all for it.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

I don't like losing the defense that Rasho plays on Yao. The Rockets are going to be more than just 4 regular season matchups vs. the Spurs next year. I bet they challenge for division title and it is very plausible that we meet them in the playoffs. I don't like gearing up our personell just to guard Dirk. Yao is going to go ape-shit on Bonner. Then next off season the need will be someone to guard Yao. Hopefully Javtokas can gaurd as well as Rasho but again, I doubt that. We all know Ben Wallace could play D on Dirk AND Yao with at least some success but does anyone really think Big Ben is coming to town? Not me. Bottom line for me is this:
Pros:
We are more flexible in playing small ball
and Cap space
Cons:
but now we have a gaping roster hole in playing traditional bigs. That is VERY bad when you anticipate playing Yao and TMAC in Playoffs. I mean, who is going to fill that hole? I hope we get SOMEBODY big for a true C.

[easjer]

I don't like losing the defense that Rasho plays on Yao. The Rockets are going to be more than just 4 regular season matchups vs. the Spurs next year. I bet they challenge for division title and it is very plausible that we meet them in the playoffs. I don't like gearing up our personell just to guard Dirk. Yao is going to go ape-shit on Bonner. Then next off season the need will be someone to guard Yao. Hopefully Javtokas can gaurd as well as Rasho but again, I doubt that. We all know Ben Wallace could play D on Dirk AND Yao with at least some success but does anyone really think Big Ben is coming to town? Not me. Bottom line for me is this:
Pros:
We are more flexible in playing small ball
Cons:
but now we have a gaping roster hole in playing traditional bigs. That is VERY bad when you anticipate playing Yao and TMAC in Playoffs. I mean, who is going to fill that hole? I hope we get SOMEBODY big for a true C.

Only an issue if Yao's injury doesn't affect his gameplay (which it could - he's not expected to be recovered untill right before training camp, which could give the Rockets a very slow start). You also have TMac to consider - amazing player, but the budding of Yao's monster games happened in TMac's absence - will he continue to be as good when sharing the ball? Also, will they get an actual power forward? I wouldn't worry too much about Houston - not to the extent of building a team solely to beat them. The rest of the NBA is in a new style of ball - more important to beat them. We can adjust in the playoffs, assuming we even meet them.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Mahinmi could be the answer but not this year imo. Is he even ready to start? The word on him seems to be 2-5 years from now.

[Extra Stout]

I don't like losing the defense that Rasho plays on Yao. The Rockets are going to be more than just 4 regular season matchups vs. the Spurs next year. I bet they challenge for division title and it is very plausible that we meet them in the playoffs.

The Rockets still have a lot of matchup problems, inasmuch as their team consists of Yao, an oft-injured McGrady, and a bunch of NBDL refugees. Every move Carroll Dawson made last offseason blew up in his face. They have an absured number of holes to fill, too many to fill in one offseason.

[leemajors]

there is no way in hell ian could guard yao, yao would plow him over. he outweighs him by 70 pounds already.

[TwoHandJam]

Awesome trade. Spurs made something out of nothing. We know Bonner is tough, hustles and can shoot but if he can rebound as well, that would be the icing on the cake. I also wonder what kind of shotblocker he could become given the training.

Rasho was good for 2 blocks per and that was a big plus in our system. If Tim does become our defacto center then being the only shotblocker puts him at risk for foul trouble. If indeed Pop is moving toward a smaller lineup (ugh) I wonder how that will modify our funnel and block system.

Williams being thrown in makes me laugh because the old timers in here will remember when Ghost was on his "Bowen is the worst SF in the NBA" horse and claimed maybe only Eric Williams was worse. Now we have both. :lol

[angel_luv]

Here's the E-N article.



Nesterovic, 30, is in Slovenia and couldn't be reached for comment, but his agent, Bill Duffy, said he was "fine" with the trade. He is expected to become the Raptors' starting center.

"It was a great experience for him in San Antonio," Duffy said. "The Spurs believed in him and rewarded him with a nice contract, but at the end of the day, his role there had diminished."



I wish he could have elaborated more, but that is better than hearing nothing.

I will be a lot happier once I know for sure that Sho is.


"Acquiring Rasho brings us an experienced presence at the centre position while not affecting our cap situation,'' Colangelo said in a statement. "He's a smart basketball player who will help address our needs, particularly on the defensive end of the floor.''
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports...aa79bfd&k=46070

:D

[MadDog73]

Williams being thrown in makes me laugh because the old timers in here will remember when Ghost was on his "Bowen is the worst SF in the NBA" horse and claimed maybe only Eric Williams was worse. Now we have both. :lol


I miss Ghost, is that sick or what?!?

[RON ARTEST]

barry is on the block
horry is getting old
booner is 26 hello
i agree the spurs need to get younger but imo they need to add more to win the title again.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I seriously hope Williams and Bonner don't end up on the roster by tthe time the season starts


these guys SUCK, they were trash in Toronto and will prob be even worse in SA



hopefully they are just pieces for trades

[SPARKY]

eh, this deal was done to get rid of Radoslav's contract. Is that not sinking in?

[MadDog73]

Come on, Bonner won't be that bad if we keep him.

He at least shoots 80% from the FT line... maybe he can give Tim some pointers how 6'10" players should shoot FTs...

[Slomo]

:(

Rasho is one of my favourite players and San Antonio is my favourite team, so this does make me a little sad. I know he hated winters in Minnesota...

On the upside, I hated how he wasn't used to the maximum of his abilities, I thought he contributed a lot on defense but could have been used better on O.

What makes me mad right now is the fact that this may well be a signal that the Spurs are concidering small ball basketball. I hope I'm wrong and it's just the first a many moves that will again establish the Spurs as a defense first team (but then again Rasho's defense was not an issue, so I don't know). I never found running up and down the court exchanging baskets fun to watch. Tactically it's a weak kind of basketball.

I hope I'm wrong!

As for the haters in this thread, remember your words, because if the Spurs don't do some more stuff with the roster you might find yourselves missing Rasho a lot.

Srečno Rasho, upam, da te bom lahko še kdaj videl igrati v živo na NBA parketu!
(good luck Rasho, I hope I'll get the opportunity to watch you play live on a NBA court again).

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

eh, this deal was done to get rid of Radoslav's contract. Is that not sinking in?

Once again Marcus whines about the almighty dollar. What is it with you and wanting to pay millions of dollars to guys at the end of the bench?

[T Park]

I seriously hope Williams and Bonner don't end up on the roster by tthe time the season starts


these guys SUCK, they were trash in Toronto and will prob be even worse in SA



hopefully they are just pieces for trades




yeah guy that shoots threes that well, and averages 7.6 points a game is "trash"

more genius observations.

[SPARKY]

Once again AHF is clueless. Yeah, this trade was really done to acquire Eric Williams. He's the fucking centerpiece.

[Slinkyman]

A quality bench is needed to win a title, bonner will help make our bench better.

[mabber]

You guys will be mad when you see that Eric Williams is old and can't play anymore, and Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.

The best part of this deal for you guys is probably the draft pick...but the "Red Rocket"(Boner) is pretty solid acquisition.

Yeah, this trade isn't about getting Williams & Bonner. Those guys are spares. The trade is about clearing cap space in future and probably another move or two is coming. Plus, the Spurs will be getting that future draft pick.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Once again AHF is clueless. Yeah, this trade was really done to acquire Eric Williams. He's the fucking centerpiece.

Where did I say that?

You said:


eh, this deal was done to get rid of Radoslav's contract. Is that not sinking in?

My response to that is that, like Rose, you're complaining about us not paying 8 million a year for a guy to sit on the end of the bench and throw towels at sideline reporters.

[T Park]

Sparky would rather the team kept Rose and Nesterovic and the team pay out 50 million in tax money.

Because it worked for the Knicks.

[spur219]

I said in the offseason when Rasho was signed that he was signed for way too much and for way too long. I was right.

And I say this now. Eric Williams will give some good contributions off the bench. Especially on defense.

[mabber]

I said in the offseason when Rasho was signed that he was signed for way too much and for way too long. I was right.

And I say this now. Eric Williams will give some good contributions off the bench. Especially on defense.

I'll bet you right now that Williams won't be on the playoff roster next season.

[ploto]

:(

Rasho is one of my favourite players and San Antonio is my favourite team, so this does make me a little sad. I know he hated winters in Minnesota...

On the upside, I hated how he wasn't used to the maximum of his abilities, I thought he contributed a lot on defense but could have been used better on O.

What makes me mad right now is the fact that this may well be a signal that the Spurs are concidering small ball basketball. I hope I'm wrong and it's just the first a many moves that will again establish the Spurs as a defense first team (but then again Rasho's defense was not an issue, so I don't know). I never found running up and down the court exchanging baskets fun to watch. Tactically it's a weak kind of basketball.

I hope I'm wrong!

As for the haters in this thread, remember your words, because if the Spurs don't do some more stuff with the roster you might find yourselves missing Rasho a lot.

Slomo- Rasho will get to have much more the role he has on his national team- as a veteran and a leader. People will be surprised at the Rasho who emerges. I have said for some time that Rasho will "fill up" whatever size and shape you give him to fill- just look what happened when Tim got hurt. Toronto will give him more of a role and he will fill it just like he does in every situation. Wait and see. :)

He's going to hate those winters, though, but fortunately he has one of the finest collections of sweaters I have seen.

[Kobayagi]

Here's a short interview with Rasho. Click (http://sportal.siol.net/default.asp?article_id=10041010606221919470)

It's in slovenian, so I translated it. Here's what Rasho had to say:

"This is NBA. If you fill the needs of the team, you are part of that team. If not, you sit on the bench. I'm already used to that.
After the season there was a lot of rumours about trading me. I told my agent to keep an eye out for potential interest in my services. Yesterday they called me and told me I'm going to Canada."

Rasho also said he hasn't talked to his new employers yet about his role:
"We'll see about that. It's hard to say anything right now. It's a fact that this is going to be a new challenge for me. I just wanna play, that's all."

[mardigan]

Rasho was the was the worst Spur big man since Dwayne Schintious(I probably spelled that wrong) and Bill Curley. Bonner is a hustle player who can shoot, and we all know how our 2nd round picks turn out, so this trade is great. Williams is old but we will probably trade him to another tean that could use his contract even more than us. (Malik for Williams anyone?) Also we are supposedly bringing our young French 7 footer that we drafted last year Ian Mahinmi, hes like 19 or 20! Besides that, I will scream it all day, Chris Wilcox is a Spur waiting to happen. 6-10, 23, averaged 14 and 8 second half of last season with the Sonics. Remember when he dunked on our whole team last year? It still gives me the chills

[SPARKY]

My response to that is that, like Rose, you're complaining about us not paying 8 million a year for a guy to sit on the end of the bench and throw towels at sideline reporters.

:rolleyes

Damn. I posted that comment after a gripe about what the Spurs got in return, as if the Spurs made the trade for a reason other than to dump Radoslav's contract. RIF.

Go bitch about the Spurs not letting Mohammed get toasted for 50 by Dirk somewhere.

[Mr. Body]

Reviewing some Sonics boards, it doesn't seem likely Seattle gives up Wilcox.

[strangeweather]

Rasho was the was the worst Spur big man since Dwayne Schintious(I probably spelled that wrong) and Bill Curley.
Two words: Samaki Walker.

[frequency]

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20040920/bonner_61707.jpg

[mardigan]

Samaki huh? I think I can beat that, what was that big crappy Mongolians name we had a couple of years back. Oh yeah Ming Battier, beat that

[mabber]

Two words: Samaki Walker.

Yeah, Mavs drafted him for some reason. I don't miss those days.

[themvp]

That is great!

[SLOVENIAN 8]

SA now get two scrubs.....

[Extra Stout]

Where did I say that?

You said:

My response to that is that, like Rose, you're complaining about us not paying 8 million a year for a guy to sit on the end of the bench and throw towels at sideline reporters.
Or, actually, he's saying, "Don't sweat whether or not Bonner and Williams are any good. Dumping the lead weight on the team's payroll that was Rasho by itself justifies the trade because of the flexibility it may create for other roster moves this summer."

At least that's how I intepreted it, given that SPARKY started a thread on that very subject.

[mardigan]

Fuck that, Rose contributed immensely. We could have used him this year in the playoffs against Dirk

[Supergirl]

I'm sad to see Rasho go. I also think he was highly underrated for his D. But his departure, and Pop's decision to go small in the playoffs this year, signals a change in the plan for the Spurs. Pop has always honored TD's request to be a "power forward" and thus have another 7 footer playing alongside him. This has meant having a big guy who can bang in the paint with other bigs, like Yao or Shaq, and keep TD out of foul trouble.

However, Yao has shown that he isn't much of a banger, and Shaq's years in the league are numbered. There just aren't a lot of big men who we need Rasho to defend against, and what we need instead, it appears, are versatile athletic (smaller) big men who rebound well and spread the floor. Bonner may fill that role. I wonder what Pop and RC are thinking about Oberto and NAzr right now - do they have role? Do they forsee Javtokas or Scola coming over next year and making an immediate impact? Or, as other people have predicted, are the Spurs not done revamping their 4/5 spots?

[timvp]

Here's a short interview with Rasho. Click (http://sportal.siol.net/default.asp?article_id=10041010606221919470)

It's in slovenian, so I translated it. Here's what Rasho had to say:

"This is NBA. If you fill the needs of the team, you are part of that team. If not, you sit on the bench. I'm already used to that.
After the season there was a lot of rumours about trading me. I told my agent to keep an eye out for potential interest in my services. Yesterday they called me and told me I'm going to Canada."

Rasho also said he hasn't talked to his new employers yet about his role:
"We'll see about that. It's hard to say anything right now. It's a fact that this is going to be a new challenge for me. I just wanna play, that's all."

Unless something was lost in translation, it sounds like Rasho wanted to be traded. He wanted to go to a team that would actually play him. I guess sitting on the bench come playoff time got old.

I can't blame him.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

This puts the Raptors over the top.

The balance of power has shifted.

:lol

[mardigan]

Now if we could only bring back the Rifleman.....

[T Park]

If you thought Van Exel was out of shape..... whew....

[mardigan]

You dont think a lineup of Charlie Ward, Chuck Person, JR Reid, Moses Malone, Ming Battier and Terry Cummings off the bench could win us a title? I sure do

[jman3000]

You dont think a lineup of Charlie Ward, Chuck Person, JR Reid, Moses Malone, Ming Battier and Terry Cummings off the bench could win us a title? I sure do

You had me at "Ming Battier"

[mardigan]

You had me at "Ming Battier"

Best mongolian to ever step foot on a court

[miss paxton]

He's going to hate those winters, though, but fortunately he has one of the finest collections of sweaters I have seen.

I really don't mean to make fun of Rasho, but when I read this I got this image of him wearing some of those awful 1980s-Bill Cosby patterned sweaters. As a girl who loves good clothes, I'm hoping you're referring to some solid 4-ply cashmere sweaters.

On another note, from what's posted in the Rasho goodbye thread, it really does seem like he is happy to have been traded. I wonder if he was truly unhappy about his uneven playing time, and if he felt like he could have contributed more. If that's the case, hopefully he'll do well in Toronto.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

yeah guy that shoots threes that well, and averages 7.6 points a game is "trash"

more genius observations.



I seriously hop you're not dumb enough to think he'd do the same in SA

[T Park]

seriously hop you're not dumb enough to think he'd do the same in SA



Yeah cause players that post good numbers on bad teams, play HORRIBLY the next year for the Spurs...


:lol


Keep diggin chief.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Yeah cause players that post good numbers on bad teams, play HORRIBLY the next year for the Spurs...


:lol


Keep diggin chief.



when someone gets traded for Raaaaaaaaasho it shows what kind of value they had :rolleyes



you prob didn't watch many Spurs games.......at all

[ChumpDumper]

I seriously hop you're not dumb enough to think he'd do the same in SAI don't see why he woudn't in time. Put in some good work this season then take over Horry's role as bench defense stretcher. Remember Big Shot has only averaged about 5 and a half points per game as a Spur.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I don't see why he woudn't in time. Put in some good work this season then take over Horry's role as bench defense stretcher. Remember Big Shot has only averaged about 5 and a half points per game as a Spur.



we'll see

[ChumpDumper]

5 and 4 off the bench is too much to expect?

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

5 and 4 off the bench is too much to expect?



no, but who knows who else the Spurs sign





why did you edit 4rbs to 3rbs? 4 was too much? HAHAHAHA

[T Park]

you prob didn't watch many Spurs games.......at all

Nah, I only watched all 95 games....

[polandprzem]

Nah, I only watched all 95 games....

Well maybe it's not enough :drunk

[picnroll]

5 and 4 off the bench is too much to expect?
As long as he isn't giving up 10 and 8 at the other end.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

ChumpDumper, why did you edit your posts from 4 to 3 to 4?

[ChumpDumper]

no, but who knows who else the Spurs sign





why did you edit 4rbs to 3rbs? 4 was too much? HAHAHAHAEh, Horry's first year rebounding average here was 3.4 -- I guess that is really funny.

LYAO

[bdictjames]

Rasho has been a part of the team.. no matter how he acts in the court.. we will surely miss him

[MannyIsGod]

True, the guy has a shot and is pertty long. If he can hustle and be scrappy, I can see Danny Ferry all over again.
Spurs fans should be celebrating in the streets. I've watched Matt Bonner play a lot and this guy is damn good. He will be a fan favorite in no time. Think Malik Rose in his prime with an outside shot and like four inches taller.

I know he played in the NBA outpost north of the border, but if we were naming players that we'd want to fill what the Spurs need, Matt Bonner would be high on that list.

Another thing is this guy is tough as nails. When he was a rookie, he put a cheap shot on KG after KG was showing up the Toronto crowd. Bonner got ejected and the crowd gave him a standing ovation.

So in recap, the Spurs get an young active bigman who can shoot and his hard ass.

Got damn what a good trade.Bump. http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smismokin.gif

[T Park]

Bonner has been as advertised no question.

[ShoogarBear]

Bump. http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smismokin.gifWell, you sure as shit weren't going to bump one of your weather forecasts.

[T Park]

:lol

that mightve been below the belt there shoog :lol

[timvp]

So far, so good.

His defense tonight was pretty outstanding. He closed on three-point shooters as well as anyone has this year.

Bonner was active on the glass but he needed to grab a few more.

[T Park]

Bonner IMO, is Malik Rose incarnate, but, with that great jumper outside.

If he can take the D from tonight and apply it to Nowtizki, the Spurs could be ok.

[angel_luv]

I wish Rasho was still here and Bonner is doing a good job for us.

[ShoogarBear]

I wish Rasho was still here and Bonner is doing a good job for us.This is almost ducks-like.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, you sure as shit weren't going to bump one of your weather forecasts.My forecasts are usually on asshole! :p

[ShoogarBear]

My forecasts are usually on asshole! :pAh, that's the problem, then. I've only been reading the weather ones.

[Spurminator]

My forecasts are usually on asshole! :p

So THAT's where you get them. :lol

[Spurminator]

(Bah, it sucks to be 2nd in timing and quality...)

[angel_luv]

This is almost ducks-like.


Yea I know. :lol

[ShoogarBear]

(Bah, it sucks to be 2nd in timing and quality...)Eh, too close to call.

[MannyIsGod]

You guys ruined my self propping bump. Bitches.

[ShoogarBear]

That's nothing. Wait till you see what we did in the Club.

[Buddy Holly]

Fucking Bonner....

[CubanMustGo]

So far, so good.

His defense tonight was pretty outstanding. He closed on three-point shooters as well as anyone has this year.

Bonner was active on the glass but he needed to grab a few more.

Ah, those were the days (or was it *the* day?).

[honestfool84]

really? this is exactly what we needed... because there sure weren't enough Bonner threads.

[Brazil]

solid bump tbh

[silverblk mystix]

Very enlightening thread...

Bonner was highly praised...

I'd rather have rasho back tbh...or anyone else but Bonner...

[jeebus]

Bonner has been as advertised no question.
Wish I could go back in time and tell everyone "It's only January! He'll fade away every year starting in February..."

[TIMMYD!]

really? this is exactly what we needed... because there sure weren't enough Bonner threads.

Your bitching is just as annoying.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Plenty of people are hoping that they didn't post in this thread right now.

[ElNono]

Interesting... timvp (semi)retired, and Bonner is still around... :lol

To timvp's credit, he did call out his choker ass throughout and after the playoffs last season...

[The Truth #6]

Hilarious bump. Bonner was more of a care free scrapper back then.

[ShoogarBear]

Interesting... timvp (semi)retired, and Bonner is still around... :lol

To timvp's credit, he did call out his choker ass throughout and after the playoffs last season...

Yes, but there's still way too much gold in this thread.


Matt Boner is the worst defender in the league and has terrible handles. Also Boner hits the side of the backboard when anyone contests his shot, or gets an airball.


Great, great trade.

Matt Bonner is one of my favorite players in the league. This guy is the Malik Rose or Udonis Haslem the Spurs needed. I love his hustle ... plus he has an outside shot.



Spurs fans should be celebrating in the streets. I've watched Matt Bonner play a lot and this guy is damn good. He will be a fan favorite in no time. Think Malik Rose in his prime with an outside shot and like four inches taller.

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So in recap, the Spurs get an young active bigman who can shoot and his hard ass.

Got damn what a good trade.



I'm hyping this guy up pretty good but I'm confident in my assessments because I've seen him play a whole lot. Half of you reading this thread will own a Matt Bonner jersey within a couple years.



He's a good defender. Very good against bulky players. His only trouble on defense is when he's playing small forward and he gets stuck guarding a quick player like Manu or Rip or someone like that. But matched up against someone his size, he's a very good defender.

He'll also be a perfect player to put on Dirk. He gives the Spurs a legit small ball power forward. And hell, if he plays as good as I know he can, he might end up starting next to Tim.

He did nail the "starting next to Tim" part.


Basically. Now he's not going to turn into a triple double machine, but one day Spurs fans will look at this trade as one of the best in team history.


So . . . how many of you have Bonner jerseys?

[DPG21920]

That is bad.

[Borosai]

No Bonner, no championships. Deal with it.

[DPG21920]

Bonner just being the blessing in disguise he is supposed to be.

[4>0rings]

Damn... Timvp :lmao

[Nathan89]

:lmao Shoogarbear thanks for the gold digging.

:lol Timvp

[Cant_Be_Faded]

CROFLCROFLCROFL

that's fucking hilarious

Sequspur owned the shit outta timvp on this one.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

At least the Bonner acquisition still does not come close to the abortion of the Scola trade.

[crc21209]

:lol At the people owning a Bonner jersey comment...

[DPG21920]

Timvp showed up for a minute a few weeks ago, probably saw Bonner play and remembered this and well...........

[timtonymanu]

Wow. For a second, I had to look through the thread and see if timvp actually said that.

[PBEEZY]

This thread should be stickied

[ShoogarBear]

If this doesn't get timvp out of permanent semi-hibernation, nothing will.

To be fair, if Bonner has a good playoff year, much will be forgotten.

[024]

lmao timvp

[slick'81]

i hated the fact i was optimistic when bonner arrived maybe i was just so glad rasho was gone

[Chachachango]

If someone was to give me a Bonner jersey I would punch him in the face and burn the POC jersey.

[Strike]

I'd rather have a retro Rod Strickland Spurs jersey.

[TampaDude]

i've got a fever

and the only cure

is more bonner

:lol

[Em-City]

Rasho is probable happy. He'll get minutes now.

Wonder if this is clearing space for Scola. That only leaves Javtokas and Duncan to man the big boys in the post providing Nazr is gone.


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[BlackSwordsMan]

Can we get eric williams back?

[4>0rings]

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:lmao

[awktalk]

7HXyLGZrGkU

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If this doesn't get timvp out of permanent semi-hibernation, nothing will.

To be fair, if Bonner has a good playoff year, much will be forgotten.

:lol but what is a good playoff year by Bonner's standards? Shooting a playoff career high 25% from the floor?


:lmao

[Mr. Body]

This reminds me of back when timvp used to claim to know more about basketball than anybody else. :lol

[TE]

Good bump lol

[TimDunkem]

That is bad.
Very bad.

lol at Bonner being another Malik Rose except for his height, and outside shot (and lack of defense, poor rebounding, and even less athletic ability). :lol

[Sean Cagney]

Decent trade for both teams. Bonner's got good range and another decent shooter coming off the bench, and the Raps need a center.

LOL if he just stayed a decent shooter off the bench :lol:lol. I never thought he would turn into Pops pet for all these years and overused like he is.


LOL at the word hustle even being used back then or fan favorite in no time :lol, yeah we love him and all 4 years later :lmao:bang

[Hooks]

Bonner IMO, is Malik Rose incarnate, but, with that great jumper outside.

If he can take the D from tonight and apply it to Nowtizki, the Spurs could be ok.



:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[lefty]

LOL Timvp/Lakaluva/Koolaid

[Dex]

Wow. Self-pwnage nearing epic levels. :lol At least the optimism was there.

[angelbelow]

Lol man, I thought this was such a great trade. Rasho for 2 expiring contracts.

[ShoogarBear]

It was a great trade.

The not-so-great part was the Spurs' thinking that it was such a good deal they could give away Scola.

[DPG21920]

Nothing with Matt Bonner can be considered great. It was an ok trade at best.

[J_Paco]

It relieved the Spurs of Rasho's horrendous contract, but the Spurs made it a bad trade once they believed Bonner was a long-term solution to the "stretch" 4 spot. Bonner should have been shipped out of town two seasons ago. He stinks and will never play to the level Pop believes he can.

My fellow Dominican with egg on his face. Timvp, how you ever saw such potential in Bonner is beyond me and everyone else.

[Mr. Body]

Good trade. Got rid of Rasho's bad salary with two expiring contracts.

Bad thing, Spurs kept resigning Bonner for way more money than he was worth. And they traded away Luis Scola to afford him.

[EricB]

So I was pretty much spot on with saying he was another David Wood....

[lefty]

Holy Fuck I Can't Believe The Raptors Are That Dumb
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao