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Louie Vega
06-24-2006, 03:41 AM
Here is the answer....
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5718130

Louie Vega
06-24-2006, 11:34 AM
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kalikot_boy_kr
06-24-2006, 01:55 PM
very nice!!!!

ShackO
06-24-2006, 02:28 PM
:lol

Good read!!!!!!!!!!

rayray2k8
06-24-2006, 02:55 PM
well I think this is pretty obvious.
It would be helpful if you just posted the article man.
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Mavs can only point fingers at themselves
Charley Rosen / Special to FOXSports.com
Posted: 19 hours ago

It's easy for Mark Cuban, Avery Johnson, many of the players, as well as the legions of unhappy Mavericks fans to blame the refs for the disappointing conclusion to the championship series. Too easy.

In truth, the players must bear most of the blame. For missing too many makeable shots. For losing their concentration when the pressure increased. And for taking too much for granted.

This last point was most evident at the end of Game 3, when the Mavs expected the Heat to fold when their deficit reached double digits in the closing minutes. Dallas was so shaken when Miami mounted its furious comeback that the Mavs never really recovered.

The Mavs' ultimate failure revealed a collective lack of trust in each other and also in their coaches. The side effect was an unwillingness to believe in the inevitability of their common mission. Character flaws, more than talent deficiency, led to the Mavs' downfall.

Johnson must also share the blame. His biggest failing was to not make a total commitment to get the ball out of Dwyane Wade's hands. (Unlike what Riley did to Dirk Nowitzki.) The Mavs should have doubled Wade every time he touched the ball. Shaq's point total in clutch situations can always be limited by sending him to the charity stripe. And Dallas should have forced (and dared) the likes of Antoine Walker, James Posey, Udonis Haslem and Jason Williams to take all of the clutch shots and win (or, most likely, lose) the series on their own.

Riley took the risk of betting the whole enchilada on stifling Nowitzki. But Johnson didn't have the grit to follow suit against Wade.

There's no question that the refs were another major factor in the outcome, but certain fundamental truths have to be accepted — the most important being that too many NBA refs are unexceptional practitioners of their art. In fact, their collective ineptitude is the primary reason why the NBA had adopted so many rule changes.


The charge/block arc under each basket was installed simply because the refs were incapable of making the correct calls when shooters and defenders collided down there. How ridiculous is it that a quarter-inch difference between where a defender's sneaker is relative to the line spells the differentiation between a charge or a block? How ridiculous is it that a referee must focus on a floor-marking instead of the respective positions and vectors of the players involved in order to make his call? And why is the line there? To make a difficult call easy for the refs.
Hey, if they can't make the right decision without a line, then they're in the wrong profession to begin with.


Similarly, the refs' inability to execute adequate tosses in jump-ball situations is why only the opening quarter is thusly begun. As it stands, approximately half of the tosses are somewhat lopsided and favor one team or the other.

The Heat focused on making Dirk Nowitzki's life difficult ... and that's why the Mavs couldn't make that 2-0 series lead hold up. (David J. Phillip / Getty Images)


Also, the outlawing of various previously accepted defensive tactics (such as hand-checking, and all the alligator wrestling that used to be the norm in pivot play) were instituted to create more scoring, yes, but also to simplify the resulting calls. All because the refs can't distinguish between advantageous and incidental contact.

It used to be that only the top officials got to work conference finals and championship series. Not any more. These days, incompetents like Joe DeRosa and Duke Callahan get to toot their tooters in the finals.

As far as Josh Howard's fatal timeout at the end of Game 5 is concerned, the truth is in the eye of the partisan. DeRosa reported that Howard twice signaled for the timeout, while Howard claims that he was only making a T-square gesture to assure Johnson that he understood his instructions. Even if Howard is correct, he must bear the same onus as does the inattentive spectator who accidentally raises his hand during an active auction.

If the refs were too cowardly to tag Jerry Stackhouse with the category 2 flagrant foul that he deserved in Game 4, Stu Jackson rectified their omission by banishing Stackhouse from Game 5. And had they taken a more dispassionate look at the foul, the Mavs would have lowered the heat of their vehement protests and moved on.
So, aside from the players' psychological weaknesses, and Johnson's inexperience, the Mavs lost because they became too distracted by the referees' mistakes.

For sure, standing up for your guys is both admirable and necessary. And, unfortunately, whining is another necessary and acceptable reaction to questionable calls. In fact, it was Riley himself who first made his displeasure with officials' calls a matter of public record back when the Heat and the Bulls used to annually meet in passionate and memorable postseason encounters during the 1990s. (Interestingly enough, when Phil Jackson responded to Riley's out-in-the-open criticisms, Riley claimed that Jackson had instigated the entire process and even called PJ a crybaby.)

Unfortunately, players, coaches, general managers, and even owners whine about what they deem to be bass-ackwards calls only because their protestations actually work. Blame the NBA powers that be for creating this particular monster.

However, there's a huge difference between whining and screaming. A difference ignored by Cuban and Johnson.

So, then, the Mavs lost because they thought that, after winning their first two home games, the ride to the promised land was a chauffeur-driven cruise. They lost because too many of their players didn't believe in anything other than themselves. And they lost because the increasing pressure caused them to pop their respective corks, on-court and off.

As a result, the Mavs' organization will either learn their lessons and move on to bigger and better things. Or else they'll be stuck in the same rut of denial and finger-pointing for the foreseeable future.

George Santayana could have been talking about the Mavs' future when he wrote, "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Charley Rosen is FOXSports.com's NBA analyst and author of 13 books about hoops, the current one being "The pivotal season, How the 1971-72 L.A. Lakers changed the NBA."

rayray2k8
06-24-2006, 02:58 PM
This should be in the NBA forum by the way.

clubalien
06-24-2006, 03:26 PM
didn't cuban himself say the nba is rigged to stern and that is the only reason they got to finals is because of nba being rigged?

ducks
06-24-2006, 03:27 PM
This should be in the NBA forum by the way.
yes mommy :rolleyes

Future41534
06-24-2006, 03:29 PM
Get that avatar out. We beat you.

ducks
06-24-2006, 03:30 PM
really :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

what postion did you play :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 04:29 PM
Get that avatar out. We beat you.
:rolleyes

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 04:30 PM
really :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

what postion did you play :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

I just don't understand why the Mavs fan is still talking about the Spurs/Mavs fans series.

mavsfan1000
06-24-2006, 04:34 PM
The refs are to blame and that is why the mavs are whining. I've never seen such a huge ft desparity in my life.

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 04:40 PM
The refs are to blame and that is why the mavs are whining. I've never seen such a huge ft desparity in my life.


:lmao

REDLION#22
06-24-2006, 05:03 PM
The Real Thing That Should Be Blamed Is The Terrific Collective Heat Defense And Nothing Else Quit With The Refs Excuse Piston And Mavs Fans You Sore Loosers!!!!!!!!!!!

mavsfan1000
06-24-2006, 05:07 PM
Ah gotta love Heat fans telling us not to blame the refs. It is easy for them saying that since they were given an early Christmas present. A spoon fed Wade to the free throw line.

rayray2k8
06-24-2006, 05:09 PM
yes mommy :rolleyes
quiet duck. :lol
I smell gun powder. :spin

REDLION#22
06-24-2006, 05:09 PM
you still lost and blaming the refs will not change who is the champion.besides its not like the refs are sitting down laughing saying:"OH LETS GIVE THE HEAT THE WIN"

rayray2k8
06-24-2006, 05:10 PM
Get that avatar out. We beat you.
You talkin' to me?
Who the hell is we anyway? :rolleyes

kris
06-24-2006, 05:15 PM
Mavs would have never been to the finals if the referees didn't bail them out against the Spurs.

mavsfan1000
06-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Ok the refs bailed Dallas out against the spurs. It was even worse with the refs bailing Miami out.

ducks
06-24-2006, 05:28 PM
quiet duck. :lol
I smell gun powder. :spin
:lol

ShackO
06-24-2006, 05:40 PM
WTF???? All this bailing out..........

Why didn't they "bail out" the Kings???? :pctoss

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
The Real Thing That Should Be Blamed Is The Terrific Collective Heat Defense And Nothing Else Quit With The Refs Excuse Piston And Mavs Fans You Sore Loosers!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly!They are just hating on Miami Heat.

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Mavs would have never been to the finals if the referees didn't bail them out against the Spurs.

Exactly!

awmyplace
06-24-2006, 05:42 PM
You talkin' to me?
Who the hell is we anyway? :rolleyes

Ingore him

Trainwreck2100
06-25-2006, 08:37 AM
WTF???? All this bailing out..........

Why didn't they "bail out" the Kings???? :pctoss


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