Regarding Scola, Translation please

[Kori Ellis]

El no para Scola

Fuentes de Vitoria aseguraron que San Antonio le comunicó al ala pivote que no contará con él para la 06/07. Con Duncan, Oberto, Bonner y Horry está cubierto. Busca negociar sus derechos. Scola tampoco aceptaría la renovación de Tau y así quedar libre en el 2008.
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1221581&fecha=20060624

Can someone give me a non-babelfish translation?

I think it says that the Spurs told Scola that they are not signing him and that they will trade his rights because they have enough forwards. Correct?

[kolko]

Yes, and it also says that he won't accept TAU's extension so he will be a free agent in 2008.

Sources from Vitoria assured that San Antonio told the power forward he isn't in their plans for 06/07. They're covered with Duncan, Oberto, Bonner and Horry. They're looking to trade his rights. Scola wouldn't accept TAU's extension offer either, being a free agent in 2008

[Kori Ellis]

Thanks.

I guess this just confirms what has been reported lately here.

[picnroll]

So now it's just a question of how much Scola's rights are worth.

[Old School Chic]

So now it's just a question of how much Scola's rights are worth.

It does say that he's willing to negotiate his rights
I was hoping we would sign him for the 06/07 season :depressed

[smeagol]

What a pitty.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What if we don't trade his rights and we just sign him next year and dump bonner?

[Kori Ellis]

What if we don't trade his rights and we just sign him next year and dump bonner?

It could happen. But it just doesn't seem the Spurs want him that badly.

[Bruno]

His buyout is around 4M ($ or € ?) acoording to a spanish newspaper.

http://www.solobasket.com/contenido.php?id=11990

I hope that we will get a quality big this summer : Horry/Bonner/Oberto/javtokas is a weak suporting cast for Duncan.

[Kori Ellis]

I hope that we will get a quality big this summer : Horry/Bonner/Oberto/javtokas is a weak suporting cast for Duncan.

I agree. They need a starting quality bigman. Maybe that will come via trade (or sign-and-trade) because I'm not sure who they can get with the MLE.

[Bruno]

http://www.elcorreodigital.com/vizcaya/pg060624/prensa/noticias/Deportes/200606/24/ALA-DEP-317.html

Another article about Scola, if I have well understand there are no real news in this article concerning Scola.

[Kori Ellis]

http://www.elcorreodigital.com/vizcaya/pg060624/prensa/noticias/Deportes/200606/24/ALA-DEP-317.html

Another article about Scola, if I have well understand there are no real news in this article concerning Scola.

Thanks. I think someone translated that yesterday in another thread.

[Bruno]

Maybe that will come via trade (or sign-and-trade) because I'm not sure who they can get with the MLE.

Agree and if it's true that Javtokas will get a 2 years contract with an option on the third year, we won't have the full MLE.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

His buyout is around 4M ($ or € ?) acoording to a spanish newspaper.

http://www.solobasket.com/contenido.php?id=11990

I hope that we will get a quality big this summer : Horry/Bonner/Oberto/javtokas is a weak suporting cast for Duncan.

Yea I know. What are your ideas of who we should get? Because I'll name somebody but then people tell me about the CBA or the team needs and all this crap I've never heard of.

[picnroll]

Agree and if it's true that Javtokas will get a 2 years contract with an option on the third year, we won't have the full MLE.
Most rumors have Javtokas getting the LLE leaving the MLE intact.

[Bruno]

Yea I know. What are your ideas of who we should get? Because I'll name somebody but then people tell me about the CBA or the team needs and all this crap I've never heard of.

I've posted some names in another thread :
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1059225&postcount=67

[Doc Jerome]

The only play the Spurs have is to trade his rights in hopes of moving higher in the draft, which I doubt they will even bother to do. After that, a package deal sending someone else with Scola to another team for a so-called long 3 with starting potential.

[Bruno]

Most rumors have Javtokas getting the LLE leaving the MLE intact.

Where have you read/heard this rumors ?
I've only read people on this board wishing that he will only get the LLE.

Javtokas' european agent has said that he will sign a 2 years contract with an option for the third and you can't get that type of contract with the LLE : you can only get 1 or 2 years contrat with the LLE (option years included).

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I've posted some names in another thread :
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1059225&postcount=67
Murph, Shareef, and Gooden

[venitian navigator]

I think, at this point, it's not impossible we sign Nazr...
Last year, for a lot of reasons (last but not least, the fact he was gonna be a free agent this year), he had a bad year.
Next year, at a good price, he could be a real steal...
The only other team I see that could take him is Chicago (but, in my opinion, they're gonna do their best to take both KG and Big Ben..and they have the means - choices, players and salary cap room - to afford both).

[Kori Ellis]

I think the Spurs will offer Nazr a cheap contract and if he takes it, then that's fine. I don't think they are going offer him more than what they offered him last summer though.

[picnroll]

Where have you read/heard this rumors ?
I've only read people on this board wishing that he will only get the LLE.

Javtokas' european agent has said that he will sign a 2 years contract with an option for the third and you can't get that type of contract with the LLE : you can only get 1 or 2 years contrat with the LLE (option years included).
You are probably right. If Spurs used part of the MLE for Javtokas that will restrict them from getting the better FAs. :depressed

As much as they wanted to dump Rasho I have to believe, with the Nazr situation, if they don't have some big replacement lined up already the Spurs are really playing with fire. The brain trust will be becoming the brain bust.

[strangeweather]

Nothing about Scola that we didn't suspect, but it's interesting to see a confirmation.


You are probably right. If Spurs used part of the MLE for Javtokas that will restrict them from getting the better FAs. :depressed

As much as they wanted to dump Rasho I have to believe, with the Nazr situation, if they don't have some big replacement lined up already the Spurs are really playing with fire. The brain trust will be becoming the brain bust.
Don't forget that we have trade assets -- we can work a sign and trade with Nazr, we have an expiring contract with Williams, Barry and Scola's rights are decent trade bait at this point, Oberto and Beno are workable filler, and we can always ship out picks if we need to.

None of that is going to land us KG or anything, but we can likely get a key guy or two via trade, and probably move some salaries at the same time.

[SPARKY]

The Spurs have chosen Javtokas over Scola. We will see if that was the correct call, like Ginobili over Giricek, or not.

[Phenomanul]

Wouldn't Scola have been a projected Top 5 pick in this year's draft... couldn't we have someone else (in the top 10 of course) draft our 'big-3' for us in exchange for Scola's rights???

[SPARKY]

Wouldn't Scola have been a projected Top 5 pick in this year's draft... couldn't we have someone else (in the top 10 of course) draft our 'big-3' for us in exchange for Scola's rights???

That's too high. I'm thinking somewhere around 14 to 17. Scola's a guy who will make it in the NBA and probably give some team 13 and 6 a night. With the rep of the Euroleague steadily increasing it's not hard to believe that some team will bite on that instead of a prospect in the draft.

[Bruno]

Wouldn't Scola have been a projected Top 5 pick in this year's draft... couldn't we have someone else (in the top 10 of course) draft our 'big-3' for us in exchange for Scola's rights???

You have 3 SF who will be drafted in the top 6-7 (Gay, Morisson and Tyrus Thomas) : Scola isn't to get them.

After this 3 SFs, the next long 3 is Sefolosha who should be drafted between the 15th pick and the 25th pick.

[Phenomanul]

You have 3 SF who will be drafted in the top 6-7 (Gay, Morisson and Tyrus Thomas) : Scola isn't to get them.

After this 3 SFs, the next long 3 is Sefolosha who should be drafted between the 15th pick and the 25th pick.


What about White?? from Cincy...?

[Phenomanul]

That's too high. I'm thinking somewhere around 14 to 17. Scola's a guy who will make it in the NBA and probably give some team 13 and 6 a night. With the rep of the Euroleague steadily increasing it's not hard to believe that some team will bite on that instead of a prospect in the draft.


I don't know about that.... Now it's too low.

Scola is like a bigger Manu, bringing the same sort of intangibles to the picture...

And considering Nocioni is also doing well... several teams out there wouldn't mind an Argentinean...

[Mr. Body]

Ronnie Brewer could be had at the end lottery to late teens. Definitely Sefolosha could. James White isn't what the Spurs are looking for. He has physical tools but not the best mental game.

[picnroll]

I think it was Buford who said that if they do trade for a pick they don't expect that pick to help them next year. Translation: another project player to stash not an answer to next years long 3.

[whottt]

I don't know about that.... Now it's too low.

Scola is like a bigger Manu, bringing the same sort of intangibles to the picture...

And considering Nocioni is also doing well... several teams out there wouldn't mind an Argentinean...



If you look at Scola's Euroleague performances, he wasn't exactly at his best in his biggest games..that's a major difference between he and Manu.

[Mr. Body]

I think it was Buford who said that if they do trade for a pick they don't expect that pick to help them next year. Translation: another project player to stash not an answer to next years long 3.

In another thread somewhere I had interpreted this as an open-ended uncertainty about the Scola situation. I see them as highly interested in Sefolosha, who has a small buy-out of his own (well within the $500,000 allowed). A team can only use the exception once a year, so if they got Scola, they'd have to leave Sefolosha in Europe for one more year.

Also, of course, there's no reason to raise expectations about a first round draft pick truly contributing to the team.

I dunno. Just my thoughts. (How they could retain Scola while grabbing a 1st is beyond me.)

[ducks]

You have 3 SF who will be drafted in the top 6-7 (Gay, Morisson and Tyrus Thomas) : Scola isn't to get them.

After this 3 SFs, the next long 3 is Sefolosha who should be drafted between the 15th pick and the 25th pick.


barry might be a top 5 pick this year if he was a rookie

[Bruno]

A team can only use the exception once a year

I don't think so.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think so.

I've seen it elsewhere, a team can only use the $500,000 buy-out once a year. Could be wrong.

[Bruno]

I've seen it elsewhere, a team can only use the $500,000 buy-out once a year. Could be wrong.

They can use it only once for a player that is to say you can give $1.5M if a player sign a 3 years contract. I haven't seen something about using it in the same year on two different players. Could be wrong too.

[picnroll]

Yes, and it also says that he won't accept TAU's extension so he will be a free agent in 2008.
Interesting that Scola flat out turned down Tau's offer and says he'll be a FA in '08. Is that to leverage Tau into a cheaper buyout to get something for him while they can? Is that to take a risk playing next year without a contract but, the next year without any buyou,t his value and offers would go up, playing Euro teams and any NBA team that has rights or interest in him against each other?

[SPARKY]

Interesting that Scola flat out turned down Tau's offer and says he'll be a FA in '08. Is that to leverage Tau into a cheaper buyout to get something for him while they can? Is that to take a risk playing next year without a contract but, the next year without any buyou,t his value and offers would go up, playing Euro teams and any NBA team that has rights or interest in him against each other?

Yes and yes. That's what you'd expect him to do to try to knock down whatever amount the buyout is this summer to a manageable level. It helps the Spurs since it looks like Scola could be available this summer or certainly the next summer.

[Mr. Body]

It seems pretty clear Scola wants to play in the NBA and has little desire to stay in Europe. This makes sense, but whether it's with the Spurs or not... well, we're all pretty much thinking it's not at this point.

[ducks]

scola for bulls 16 pick

[Bruno]

scola for bulls 16 pick

I think too that it's the most likely if we trade Scola for a draft pick.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:D

He should be pissed at Oberto.

When we brought him over, wasn't he thought of as comparable in talent to Scola?

[SPARKY]

There's also the Nets who have picks at #22 and 23. Thorn may balk at helping out his apparent sworn enemy, but he may find the chance to pick up an impact player who would seem to fit the Nets' offense too enticing to pass up.

[SA210]

And I waited all these years for Scola to come.

:td

[ducks]

maybe scola's attitude did not help

[SPARKY]

Well, this is the luxury the team has with their Int'l Farm Team.

[Mr. Body]

And I waited all these years for Scola to come.

:td

I'm disappointed, too, but he likely wasn't going to fit the style of ball...

That said, the Spurs might be able to parlay a late 2nd rounder to a near lottery pick with this. Not bad.

[Phenomanul]

maybe scola's attitude did not help


That and the lack of consulting with Spurs management before signing his contract with Tau... Those buyouts are ridiculous and hampering... he should have forseen that.... and ultimately he's the one that signed.

[manustarting2gd]

I thought he was the "Malik with hands" and a controlled agression that we could use. Apparently, the Spurs dont.. yeah i'd be pissed at Beef Jerky(Oberto) too.

[Kori Ellis]

That and the lack of consulting with Spurs management before signing his contract with Tau... Those buyouts are ridiculous and hampering... he should have forseen that.... and ultimately he's the one that signed.


He signed his contract with Tau before being drafted by the Spurs. So the Spurs weren't around for any consulting.

[TDMVPDPOY]

stuff bulls 16th pick, just trade him for deng or ben gordan

[timvp]

He signed his contract with Tau before being drafted by the Spurs. So the Spurs weren't around for any consulting.

Yeah he signed that contract when he was like 16 or 17, IIRC.

[T Park]

not surprising.

Now the proposed packages, that have been flopped around here, could come true.


Barry + Scola and whatever.



I trust Spurs management in their decision.

Their track record of deciding on euros is good so far.

[Phenomanul]

He signed his contract with Tau before being drafted by the Spurs. So the Spurs weren't around for any consulting.


I see. That contract was nevertheless his undoing... what a shame.

[Ginofan]

not surprising.

Now the proposed packages, that have been flopped around here, could come true.


Barry + Scola and whatever.



I trust Spurs management in their decision.

Their track record of deciding on euros is good so far.

Like Oberto?? :rolleyes

[tempest186]

Something seems odd about this whole situation. When have the Spurs come right out and said they are shopping someone? I can't recall any. This leads me to believe one of two things may be happening. One, they are trying to decrease their apparent desire to sign Scola so that his asking price drops and Maybe Tau's buyout will go down as Scola threatens to leave as a free agent next year (as has been speculated here). I don't think this is likely though. Rather, I think that the Spurs already have a deal in place and are waiting for the draft or just after whenever the timing allows it to occur. Going public with their desire to trade Scola is a move to help whoever the Spurs are trading with since anyone trading for him would want to know they can sign him. I'm probably wrong but something about this whole thing just seems kind of "off".

[Mavs<Spurs]

From reading the original thread, people seemed to have taken it that the noun is Scola (ie read it to mean Scola busca negociar sus derechos).

I don't think this is correct. The antecedent appears to me to be San Antonio ( note San Antonio le communico - ie San Antonio is singular even though we say the Spurs).

As I read it, the meaning is San Antonio will look to trade his rights.

And this is an important difference. This is a flat assertion that San Antonio is shopping Scola's draft rights.

This also makes sense with what Kori told us about working out James White on the 19.

[Kori Ellis]

From reading the original thread, people seemed to have taken it that the noun is Scola (ie read it to mean Scola busca negociar sus derechos).

I don't think this is correct. The antecedent appears to me to be San Antonio ( note San Antonio le communico - ie San Antonio is singular even though we say the Spurs).

As I read it, the meaning is San Antonio will look to trade his rights.

And this is an important difference. This is a flat assertion that San Antonio is shopping Scola's draft rights.

This also makes sense with what Kori told us about working out James White on the 19.

I don't know what you are talking about. Everyone translated it as the Spurs are trying to trade Scola's rights. What's different about your translation?

[Mavs<Spurs]

I don't know what you are talking about. Everyone translated it as the Spurs are trying to trade Scola's rights. What's different about your translation?


"
It does say that he's willing to negotiate his rights
I was hoping we would sign him for the 06/07 season

"


Try again.

From another poster.

[Kori Ellis]

"
It does say that he's willing to negotiate his rights
I was hoping we would sign him for the 06/07 season

"


Try again.

From another poster.

Well read the thread in the beginning. Everyone is talking about how the Spurs are trying to trade his rights. Maybe just that one poster is confused.

[Mavs<Spurs]

he's willing to negotiate his rights

or

Spurs looking to trade his rights.


There is a difference.


his rights is clearly a translation from sus derechos.
We know what ought to have preceded it and it wasn't there.

I saw that and I wanted to help by clarifying.

My fault.

try not to let it happen again.

[Kori Ellis]

he's willing to negotiate his rights

or

Spurs looking to trade his rights.


There is a difference.


his rights is clearly a translation from sus derechos.
We know what ought to have preceded it and it wasn't there.

I saw that and I wanted to help by clarifying.

My fault.

try not to let it happen again.

I understand you trying to clarify for that one poster. But it didn't need a new thread, that's all.

Too many Scola threads.

Anyway, I have no idea what team would want him because his buyout is still fairly large. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[dbreiden83080]

We don't have to worry about them not getting this guy. One thing the Spurs are better at than probably everyone else is evaluating talent. Perhaps their only real mistake in the last few years was overating Rasho. Obviously if they thought Scola has the talent to storm the NBA and be an all star they would do whatever it took to sign him.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

FUKKK, I seriously hope we get someone DAMN good for him

[blackbucket]

If anyone saw WOAI tonight, please post what you heard David Chancellor report.

I heard him report that ONE of Scola's agents said that the Spurs have not contacted him about Luis and that he does not know what they want to do. The agent said that maybe after the draft the Spurs will decide what direction they want to go in. David Chancellor then said that the agent will reportedly be in San Antonio later this week.

I would like confirmation from someone that they heard this as well or their impression of what was said. I certainly got the impression that at the very least, the Spurs may still yet sign Scola and have not told his agent (at least this one) they are shopping his rights.

[SPARKY]

He's Spurs property if he wants to join the NBA. Apparently he is being treated as such.

[blackbucket]

This report contradicts what has been reported in the Argentina newspaper. There is a communication breakdown somewhere here but I for one hope Scola is not off the Spurs radar. Scola's agent is coming to SA to negotiate after the draft in case the Spurs decide they want him. Please let that be the case!

[Solid D]

If anyone saw WOAI tonight, please post what you heard David Chancellor report.

I heard him report that ONE of Scola's agents said that the Spurs have not contacted him about Luis and that he does not know what they want to do. The agent said that maybe after the draft the Spurs will decide what direction they want to go in. David Chancellor then said that the agent will reportedly be in San Antonio later this week.

I would like confirmation from someone that they heard this as well or their impression of what was said. I certainly got the impression that at the very least, the Spurs may still yet sign Scola and have not told his agent (at least this one) they are shopping his rights.

Confirmed. Your version of what Chance said is an accurate account...perhaps verbatim.

[Kori Ellis]

Here's the clip from the news.

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=266948

[T Park]

alright alright.

So now, the agent wants to now negotiate a contract?


Can the Spurs somehow pull off a trade to get into the first round?

[Mr. Body]

Can the Spurs somehow pull off a trade to get into the first round?

That's the question, right? I've been feeling a trade into the first round for some time now.

[T Park]

I doubt they will.

It totally goes against what the Spurs have done in the past and the recent past.

Ive never known for the Spurs to trade into the lottery or semi higher up part of ANY draft.

of course the year of the supposed "weakest class ever" the Spurs will trade in to....

[Mr. Body]

... grab the young small forward prospect they've had their eye on, of course.

[Holgfx]

All this information concering Scola and this years NBA Draft is too exciting. But, what is driving me bananas is what exactly is their Ace in the hole and what false trails (cookie crumps) they are dropping off to ward off the bloodhounds.

:wakeup Man, it is good be a Spurs fan.

[Ariel]

Seems to be taken from an excerpt in an article that came out yesterday in one of Argentina's largest newspapers, La Nación:

Scola's future again an enigma (http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=818144)

Though the Spurs have just rid themselves of center Rasho Nesterovic (traded to Toronto), they showed no interest in getting Scola. "It's very strange; they say nothing. Maybe they're waiting to see what they can land in the upcoming draft and perhaps then they'll make a decision", pointed out Carlos Raffaelli, one of his agents in Argentina that will travel precisely to the Spurs' hometown the day after tomorrow to keep an eye on a potential negotiation

[Pistons < Spurs]

I'd never seen Scola play before ... till I found this vid today on you-tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlCkdQGjZ6o&search=barcelona%20scola

It was just added to you-tube yesterday so i don't think it's been posted before and doubt many of you will have seen it yet. It's from the Barcelona vs Tau Game 1

The vid opens up w/ a fast break dunk by Scola!

The kid looks pretty good. I hope for your sakes you all do keep him and not trade him away.

[Mr. Body]

Thanks for the video link. There hasn't been much on Scola in youtube.

The more intriguing prospect there may be Tiago Splitter, who hasn't made himself eligible to be drafted yet. There still has to be questions about Scola - he can score, but his defense and rebounding don't look that much.

[MoSpur]

There has to be a reason why they keep saying they are going to trade up or should I say looking to trade up. In Spurs code that means, they aren't going to trade up. At least that is what I get. I like Scola. I do. I have said other things, like let him go somewhere else because of his complaining last year. However, I like what I have seen. He isn't that long, but seems athletic enough to play so, so D on someone like Dirk. His offensive game is solid.

[Mr. Body]

MoSpur, the Spurs have looked to trade up pretty much every draft year. Smokescreens and double talk are important when you get to specifics. There's no need for CIA talk to hide the fact you are - or are not - trading up somewhere into the first round.

[MoSpur]

Well, I believe that them publicly saying they want to move up is bull. Its my opinion. If they move up fine. I trust them to make the right decisions. Do they always make the right decisions? No. Overall they are okay though.

[Mr. Body]

Fine. But they've ALWAYS tried to trade up. Why not try? And this year, they've certainly done more than try.

[dbestpro]

A friend at lunch said he saw R.C. on the tube talk of signing Scola and that now he is in a range the Spurs could afford including inside scoring when Duncan is not on the floor. Scola's agent is flying to S.A. next week. This was also mentioned on another thread.

[MoSpur]

Like I said, if they do, its cool with me. I just don't think they will.

[MoSpur]

A friend at lunch said he saw R.C. on the tube talk of signing Scola and that now he is in a range the Spurs could afford including inside scoring when Duncan is not on the floor. Scola's agent is flying to S.A. next week. This was also mentioned on another thread.

Was this today? Where is your friend from?

[dbestpro]

This was local TV (S.A.)

[MoSpur]

Today during lunch? Funny. I haven't heard anything.

[Supergirl]

Javtokas is significantly younger than Scola, isn't he? Scola is 30 or 31 already, I think, so maybe the Spurs think they can get more out of Javtokas. It's too bad, cause Scola looked perfect for us when I saw him play for Argentina. But I haven't seen Javtokas play much.

[Mr. Body]

Supergirl - they're both around 26.

[WalterBenitez]

That and the lack of consulting with Spurs management before signing his contract with Tau... Those buyouts are ridiculous and hampering... he should have forseen that.... and ultimately he's the one that signed.
When he signed that contract I didn't even born (:D) my friend, he signed 10 years ago (according to a newspaper I read) stupid contract, sure ... in that time he was 16/17 years old and probably the contract was signed for his parents since e was underage.

[WalterBenitez]

Is there sth valuable in the market to xchange for Scola's rights?

[Ariel]

Javtokas is significantly younger than Scola, isn't he? Scola is 30 or 31 already, I think, so maybe the Spurs think they can get more out of Javtokas. It's too bad, cause Scola looked perfect for us when I saw him play for Argentina. But I haven't seen Javtokas play much.
They were both born in 1980: Robertas Javtokas on March 20, and Luis Scola on April 30. So while they're both 26, Scola is marginally younger (a month and 10 days).

[Bruno]

http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/06/29/deportes/baloncesto/d29bal56.388970.php

If I have well understand babelfish, this article say that Tau wants that Scola makes his choice before July 1st or 2nd.

[Kori Ellis]

http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/06/29/deportes/baloncesto/d29bal56.388970.php

If I have well understand babelfish, this article say that Tau wants that Scola makes his choice before July 1st or 2nd.

I think it says that Scola and Tau have an agreement that he will give them his final decision on his future before July 1st or 2nd -- which doesn't make much sense.

[venitian navigator]

I think it says that Scola and Tau have an agreement that he will give them his final decision on his future before July 1st or 2nd -- which doesn't make much sense.


It's said that a press conference has been postponed for giving time to Scola to make his choice...
The "bad" sense is that they're triyng to hurry his decision...(they gave him just a two day time making look that they're doing him a favor just because the draft event);
The "good" sense is that they are considering him like he could be the foundation of the team for the next years...so, they need in appropriate (fast) time to know his intentions...in case they have to go in a different direction (via market).

I hope Scola agree as soon as possible with Spurs...and give them the answer they're (not) asking for...!!!!

[Ariel]

El TAU pone fecha tope a Scola (http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/06/29/deportes/baloncesto/d29bal56.388970.php)

El plazo para que el pívot comunique su futuro termina este fin de semana


El presidente baskonista ha decidido posponer la rueda de prensa prevista para hoy hasta el próximo lunes y el motivo no es otro que la incógnita existente por ahora respecto al futuro de Luis Scola.

[...]

Por ello, Querejeta prefiere esperar para saber con certeza si el pívot se queda o, por el contrario, abandona la nave baskonista, porque de esta forma será él en primera persona quien dé tan importante noticia.

Todo se decidirá este fin de semana en función de los resultados deparados por el sorteo del draft que se ha celebrado esta madrugada. El club vitoriano y Scola han llegado a un acuerdo que especifica que el pívot argentino tendrá como plazo máximo hasta el día 1 ó 2 de julio para tomar y comunicar la decisión definitiva sobre su futuro.

[...]

En esta ocasión la situación es bien diferente. Los Spurs ya han comunicado a Scola que no cuentan con él para la próxima campaña y han puesto sobre la mesa la posibilidad de que otra franquicia americana se haga con sus servicios. Por ello, habrá que esperar los movimientos que se produzcan una vez celebrado el draft, el baskonista deberá estar pendiente de las posibles ofertas que puedan surgir desde los equipos participantes en la mejor Liga de baloncesto del mundo, de la necesidad que pueda surgirles de incorporar un pívot de sus características.

Por ahora parece que no existe interés de ninguno de ellos, pero pueden aparecer tras el sorteo y él deberá estudiarlo.

TAU puts deadline on Scola (http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/06/29/deportes/baloncesto/d29bal56.388970.php)

The deadline for the center to inform his future ends this weekend


TAU's president has decided to postpone the press conferece scheduled today until next monday, and the reason is no other than the uncertainty that as of this moment surrounds Luis Scola's future.

[...]

Because of that, Querejeta would rather wait to know with certainty whether the forward stays or, on the contrary, jumps ship, because that way it'll be him who first breaks such important news.

Everything will be decided this weekend depending on the results arising from the draft that took place at dawn. The Vitorian club and Scola have reached an agreement that specifies the Argentine forward will have at most until July 1 or 2 to make and inform the final decision on his future.

[...]

This time around the situation is radically different. The Spurs have already informed Scola he's not in their plans for next season, and they've opened the door for another American franchise acquire his services. Because of that, it'll have to wait for the moves taking place after the draft. He'll have to be attentive to potential offers from teams taking part in the best basketball league in the world, to the needs that may arise of adding a forward like him.

So far there doesn't seem to be any interest, but there might be after the draft, and he'll have to analyze it.

[ALVAREZ6]

Javtokas is significantly younger than Scola, isn't he? Scola is 30 or 31 already, I think, so maybe the Spurs think they can get more out of Javtokas.
:lol

I think you are confusing him with the other Argentine big man, Fabricio Oberto.

[ALVAREZ6]

I have a feeling that Scola is gonna stay in Spain, even if the Spurs trade his rights to another franchise.

[picnroll]

Could it possibly be that after all these years of talking about, waiting for Scola no team thinks he can make it in the NBA? ouch.

[Ariel]

Could it possibly be that after all these years of talking about, waiting for Scola no team thinks he can make it in the NBA? ouch.
The problem isn't that no team thinks he can make it, but that the price to find out is just too much...

[Tom_Foolery]

Scola is regarded as the best PF in Europe right now. So, why would he not make it in the NBA, considering the amount of European talent the NBA has today? That wouldn't make much sense.

I would much rather have Scola than Robert Horry. I think Scola will provide the energy throughout the entire season and be more of an offensive threat than Horry's "late season" heroics.

It would be a big shame if the Spurs didn't even give Scola a chance, even at his price. If we were willing to pay Rose, Rasho and Barry the salaries they were getting paid, I don't think Scola's buyout would be a "huge risk".

I think Scola's coming personally. But I also think alot of what we do will depend on what the Bulls do, whether they take Nazr or J Pryz. We'll end up signing one of those two.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i say we trade him to a scrub team for a first round 2007 pick :D

does the knicks still owe anyone a first round pick?

[picnroll]

The NBA and European basketball are totally different games. You can get by with a degree of lack of athleticism in Europe that is a fatal flaw in the NBA. Look at Macijauskas and Sarunas. Athletically they were not great in Europe but got by on skill. When they came to the US that "not great" tranlates to horrible. In Europe Scola is a not great but skilled. In the US he could be a horrible. His defense in Europe sucks in the US I'd hate to think what it would be. I doubt any team will risk finding out for much money, as much as Scola wants and needs.

[MoSpur]

I'd rather have Scola than trade his rights. Unless its for a First Round pick in 2007 to someone like the Bobcats or something like that.

[venitian navigator]

The NBA and European basketball are totally different games. You can get by with a degree of lack of athleticism in Europe that is a fatal flaw in the NBA. Look at Macijauskas and Sarunas. Athletically they were not great in Europe but got by on skill. When they came to the US that "not great" tranlates to horrible. In Europe Scola is a not great but skilled. In the US he could be a horrible. His defense in Europe sucks in the US I'd hate to think what it would be. I doubt any team will risk finding out for much money, as much as Scola wants and needs.

Well, with the fifth pick, Atlanta has chosen Shelden Williams...
So, you think that a guy like him would be better than Scola ?
Not in a million years and in any way...!
talking about athletic Skills, do you remember olympics and the huge block shot on J. O'neal...? just that should make you think he's not that bad athletically...

[picnroll]

Everybody talks about that HUGE block. That block was from behind, before O'Neal had gotten the ball above basket level, and didn't see Scola. It's not like Scola met O'Neal face up, above the rim and blocked the shot. Defensively he's a sieve.

[MoSpur]

Everybody talks about that HUGE block. That block was from behind, before O'Neal had gotten the ball above basket level, and didn't see Scola. It's not like Scola met O'Neal face up, above the rim and blocked the shot. Defensively he's a sieve.

Are you sure? I thought it was straight up.

[Mr. Body]

The block was from behind, on a break, I think.

It wasn't impressive from an athleticism stand-point, but it did take great timing, strength, and balls.

[Kori Ellis]

TAU puts deadline on Scola (http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/06/29/deportes/baloncesto/d29bal56.388970.php)

The deadline for the center to inform his future ends this weekend


TAU's president has decided to postpone the press conferece scheduled today until next monday, and the reason is no other than the uncertainty that as of this moment surrounds Luis Scola's future.

[...]

Because of that, Querejeta would rather wait to know with certainty whether the forward stays or, on the contrary, jumps ship, because that way it'll be him who first breaks such important news.

Everything will be decided this weekend depending on the results arising from the draft that took place at dawn. The Vitorian club and Scola have reached an agreement that specifies the Argentine forward will have at most until July 1 or 2 to make and inform the final decision on his future.

[...]

This time around the situation is radically different. The Spurs have already informed Scola he's not in their plans for next season, and they've opened the door for another American franchise acquire his services. Because of that, it'll have to wait for the moves taking place after the draft. He'll have to be attentive to potential offers from teams taking part in the best basketball league in the world, to the needs that may arise of adding a forward like him.

So far there doesn't seem to be any interest, but there might be after the draft, and he'll have to analyze it.


Thanks Ariel.

I don't get why they'd think it would all be resolved by July 2 though. Even if another NBA team wanted him and wanted to work a deal with the Spurs, who knows if it would be all worked out by then. Maybe. Maybe not.

[Nikos]

I am not exactly thrilled with Scola.

I think he could be a Corliss Williamson type at best in that he can give you excellent scoring off the bench. But I can't see him being better.

Actually if he was as good as Corliss in his prime years that would be awesome. But I doubt he can score like that in limited minutes, in the Spurs system.

Since Scola likely won't rebound nor defend exceptionally well in the NBA level, he is pretty much a guy who is either going to be a very good scorer in limited minutes, or a weak supporting guy who rarely sees the floor.

[Mr. Body]

Geez, TAU are real hard asses with the Scola situation.

[Tom_Foolery]

The NBA and European basketball are totally different games. You can get by with a degree of lack of athleticism in Europe that is a fatal flaw in the NBA. Look at Macijauskas and Sarunas. Athletically they were not great in Europe but got by on skill. When they came to the US that "not great" tranlates to horrible. In Europe Scola is a not great but skilled. In the US he could be a horrible. His defense in Europe sucks in the US I'd hate to think what it would be. I doubt any team will risk finding out for much money, as much as Scola wants and needs.


Well, fans who don't play in the NBA probably will doubt Scola's ability to play in the NBA, but NBA players & coaches don't:

as we all saw, Scola was a MONSTER vs the US team 3 years ago in the World Basketball tournament.

it wasn't luck...Scola did more than just handle his own. He looked impressive against the US team.

[CaptainLate]

Wouldn't Scola have been a projected Top 5 pick in this year's draft... couldn't we have someone else (in the top 10 of course) draft our 'big-3' for us in exchange for Scola's rights???

Maybe FO is looking to package next yrs 2nd Rounder from Milwaukee with some players and get a middle 1st Rounder in next yrs draft (since we'll be picking last). Buford said: "We think next year's draft has a chance to be one of the better drafts in a long, long time."

[CaptainLate]

I am not exactly thrilled with Scola.

I think he could be a Corliss Williamson type at best in that he can give you excellent scoring off the bench. But I can't see him being better.

The thing Scola brings, that people like Williamson don't, is the type of energy that Manu brings to the game. You cannot measure that.

[Tom_Foolery]

The thing Scola brings, that people like Williamson don't, is the type of energy that Manu brings to the game. You cannot measure that.


agreed!

[T Park]

Too bad he puts that energy into other things other than rebounding.

[Nikos]

The thing Scola brings, that people like Williamson don't, is the type of energy that Manu brings to the game. You cannot measure that.

Manu brings good offense and defense. A lot of his intangibles are rolled up into that equation.

Manu actually draws charges, gets steals, makes the hustle plays on defense not only cause of his heart, but because he is QUICK as well.

Scola to me doesn't seem like he can grab rebounds in traffic consistently, nor is he likely to make a big block or steal. He just doesn't have the same athleticism as Manu, nor skill set relative to his NBA position.

I could be wrong of course. Scola does seem like an excellent talent in Europe. But I don't think he has as many transferable skills as Manu did. Manu you could tell could do a lot of things on the court and had above average athleticism/skill.

Scola seems to have solid skill and minimal athleticism. I could see him becoming a good scorer, but an intagibles defender, and a rebounder? Doubtful. (If he comes to the Spurs I hope I am wrong though).

[Knoxville Spur]

I don't think Scola's agent would be coming to town if he wasn't serious about playing in the NBA.

[Ariel]

I don't think Scola's agent would be coming to town if he wasn't serious about playing in the NBA.
Scola is serious about playing in the NBA, that's for sure. But two things should be noticed:

His agent isn't traveling to San Antonio because of him alone, but also to watch the U18 championships.
It comes across in his interview that Scola's agent is quite confused about the Spurs intentions. He shouldn't be expected to negotiate a contract as much as to personally inquire what the hell it is the Spurs want to do with him after all.

I sometimes wonder how long it will take for people to realize that maybe the whole Scola deal wasn't that much about Scola himself after all. Even last year it was reported that ultimately Scola did get a compromise from Tau to lower the buyout to about the same figure that's being talked about right now but the Spurs weren't willing to wait.

Personally, I believe that if the Spurs truly wanted to sign him, he would be in San Antonio already. I just don't think he fits what they're ultimately looking for.

[Mr. Body]

It comes across in his interview that Scola's agent is quite confused about the Spurs intentions. He should be expected to negotiate a contract as much as personally inquire what the hell it is the Spurs want to do with him after all.

I think everyone's confused as hell about the Spurs' intentions.

[Solid D]

I have no idea what the Spurs' true intentions are...but you've got to admit, it's a bit strange that the Spurs would straight-up treat the top Power Forward in Euroleague like a step-child (1st team All-Euroleague along with Papaloukas, Navarro, Parker, and Vujic).

He's a player who is saavy to various defenses, he's a good scorer and finisher, he's aggressive and fiery, he flourishes in motion offenses and he runs the floor. The theory of non-love by the Spurs FO to keep his perceived value in check may be the correct theory here.

On a side note...I'm still amazed at the Spurs developmental talent (rights to talent, at least).

The top PF in Euroleague Top 16 tourney (Scola) and the #1 shot-blocker and #2 rebounder in the Euroleague Top 16 tourney (Javtokas). What a farm system!

[Mr. Body]

It doesn't make sense to diminish his value if they're trying to trade his rights at the same time. Maybe the Spurs feel there's a fine line to walk here -- keep his buyout low so he can be traded?

[Solid D]

Yes, that's right.

[Guru of Nothing]

On a side note...I'm still amazed at the Spurs developmental talent (rights to talent, at least).

The top PF in Euroleague Top 16 tourney (Scola) and the #1 shot-blocker and #2 rebounder in the Euroleague Top 16 tourney (Javtokas). What a farm system!

As a fan, I'd like for the Spurs to bring Javtokas and Scola to the table; I'm willing to accept them as busts.

Fish or cut bait!

[Nbadan]

The Spurs need someone to body up with Shaq and Yao, I'm just not sure Scola is the guy POP has in mind.

[Solid D]

The Spurs need someone to body up with Shaq and Yao, I'm just not sure Scola is the guy POP has in mind.

Scola's not the guy for Shaq or Yao. That's where they would need someone Tim's size as a minimum just to contest or redirect. Scola is listed on Tau's site as 207 cm which equates to 6'9 1/2" but that's being liberal.

[Solid D]

BTW, I think Scola's agent is in San Antonio for 2 reasons. Scola's interests, but also for the U18 Tournament of the Americas.

[Doug Collins]

Well, with the fifth pick, Atlanta has chosen Shelden Williams...
So, you think that a guy like him would be better than Scola ?
Not in a million years and in any way...!talking about athletic Skills, do you remember olympics and the huge block shot on J. O'neal...? just that should make you think he's not that bad athletically...

How much have you seen Scola play, honestly? Shelden Williams has better physical tools right now than Scola to play the NBA game. Of course, he isnt as skilled in the post but he´s 22 and has never played pro ball so he needs time to develop. Right now I would take Williams over Scola cause he has the body and the defensive and rebounding mentality the team needs, the offensive game will come in time. Living in Spain for the past couple of months I´ve seen Scola play on a regular basis and while his offensive game is nice, I think the athletes the NBA has to throw at him from the PF position would give him all sorts of problems. That´s ignoring his complete lack of defense and inability to rebound in traffic. Scola can never be the athlete Williams already is.

[Bruno]

The Spurs need someone to body up with Shaq and Yao, I'm just not sure Scola is the guy POP has in mind.

Scola isn't this guy.
Spurs must find bigs to defend Yao and bigs to defend players like Dirk : that's maybe their biggest challenge of this offseason.
I'm curious to see which answer they will find.

[scolikrose]

Scola is the man, he does the intangibles. He is what he is- just bring him over, or the spurs will regret not bringing him over. He's better than the power fowards we have now(Excluding Timmy)

[Ariel]

I´ve seen Scola play on a regular basis and while his offensive game is nice, I think the athletes the NBA has to throw at him from the PF position would give him all sorts of problems. That´s ignoring his complete lack of defense and inability to rebound in traffic. Scola can never be the athlete Williams already is.
:lol

I love your biased 'equanimity'. First you say he's got a 'nice' offensive game, but then he has a 'complete lack of defense' and an 'inability to rebound in traffic'... sure, buddy, sure. If you want to temper you opinions, do so both ways.

His offensive game is 'nicer' than most NBA post players, and he is under no circumstance completely devoid of defense and unable to rebound. In fact, those were complaints about pretty much every Argentine player who went to the NBA, and were proven unfounded in all cases.

Hate all you want, just step off your 'I've lived in Spain for two whole months and I know what I'm talking about' pedestal.

[picnroll]

?

Nocioni and Manu had reputations as being good defenders before they came to the NBA and when they came to the NBA they met expectations. Oberto had the reputation of being a good defensive player and didn't meet expectations.

[Ariel]

?

Nocioni and Manu had reputations as being good defenders before they came to the NBA and when they came to the NBA they met expectations. Oberto had the reputation of being a good defensive player and didn't meet expectations.
Actually Manu was deemed too skinny to play the physical NBA game, and Nocioni was supposed to be a foul machine that wouldn't be anywhere near the rebounder he was in Europe. As for Oberto, he was never depicted as a defensive player first and foremost, only a smart team player who knows his way around. And, for every athletically challenged claim I've heard -which I don't deny-, per minute the guy somehow seems to grab enough rebounds to more than hold his own. And Delfino is also rounding up into a very decent defender himself, BTW.

For the most part, the 'how would his game translate' fears need to be put in perspective. It's reasonable to contemplate such issues, but to make absolute remarks based on outdated criteria doesn't seem too smart. This isn't the 80s anymore. Argentine Euroleague players can play in the NBA.

Scola won't turn into a chump just by stepping foot on the NBA, regardless of what some seem to think. Maybe he'll have trouble adjusting, but the horrible defender and rebounder remarks are not justified.

[picnroll]

That's not what I perceived from their depictions. The story around San Antonio was that Manu early was a lazy defender in Italy and Buford chewed on him. Manu became a very good defender after that and that was one area he was expected to make his mark. Believe me as the Spurs were choking away the '02 finals to LA everyone around here was already wishing Manu had arrived.

Nocioni the question was would he be effective offensively because people questioned his shooting. I think a lot, myself included, thought he'd be more of a role player than he is. That Spurs scout that screwed up and Nocioni's birth date has really hurt the Spurs.

Oberto was considered to be one of the better Argentine big defenders but his poor post defense is what's keeping him off the floor in my opinion.

Every time I've seen clips of Scola on defense he's just waving as penetrators get into the lane. Given how much the NBA game is becoming penetration that woul be a killer.

[danyel]

You give Buford to much credit, Manu's defensive improvement had a lot more to do with Ettore Messina coaching him than Buford saying anything.

[Bruno]

http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/07/03/deportes/baloncesto/d03bal48.391837.php

Scola has asked to have three more days before giving his answer to Tau. Maybe it's a sign that Spurs are working on a trade with Scola.

[ducks]

thanks
maybe scola is plan d

[timvp]

http://www.noticiasdealava.com/ediciones/2006/07/03/deportes/baloncesto/d03bal48.391837.php

Scola has asked to have three more days before giving his answer to Tau. Maybe it's a sign that Spurs are working on a trade with Scola.

That's pretty damn interesting. Must be something is in the works.

Either the Spurs are trying to trade him or perhaps they might sign him if they strike out on other free agents.

THanks for the info.

[clubalien]

plan D for ducks? :D
Plan D:In case spurs aren't able to sign any NBA quality free agents targeted an offer will be made to Ducks!

[Mr. Body]

Looks like Scola might be in the NBA next year after all. Whether with the Spurs or not, I wish him luck.

[furry_spurry]

3 days is not long enough for the Spurs to work through all their other options. I think his agent is trying to work out a trade for him.

[Mr. Body]

Why three days? Why not a week?

[furry_spurry]

I keep hearing there is interest in Scola but the team is one that the Spurs would not want to trade him to.

[timvp]

I keep hearing there is interest in Scola but the team is one that the Spurs would not want to trade him to.

Phoenix, I assume. The team who almost drafted him in the first round.

[furry_spurry]

Phoenix, I assume. The team who almost drafted him in the first round.
Yes, that is what I keep hearing.

[timvp]

Yes, that is what I keep hearing.

Where?

[furry_spurry]

In the voices in my head. :lol

No- I heard it earlier this summer and then again recently, but I don't know how reliable it is. It makes sense. It just seems to me that some team would want to try to take a chance on Scola- look at who gets drafted and given guaranteed contracts-- and if the Spurs aren't going to do it, they should do the "right" thing and trade him to someone who does want to take that chance. I am having a hard time buying that no one is interested in the best PF playing in Europe when you look at who is in the league playing now!! The Spurs themselves gave Oberto $2.5M!

[clubalien]

scola for their back up point gaurd
is reaosn suns want speedy?

[Mr. Body]

Is this why Phoenix dumped two guaranteed-money draft picks?

[loveforthegame]

Is this why Phoenix dumped two guaranteed-money draft picks?

I thought they did that so they could resign Tim Thomas. That's one of the reasons it was a surprise that he bolted for the Clippers.

They were even listening to offers for James Jones so I know they're happy they didn't trade him first.

[Mr. Body]

I thought they did that so they could resign Tim Thomas. That's one of the reasons it was a surprise that he bolted for the Clippers.

They were even listening to offers for James Jones so I know they're happy they didn't trade him first.

They also knowingly lowballed Tim Thomas, so who knows what's going on over there.

[Slinkyman]

Can the spurs sign and trade Scola or is our only option to trade his rights? I'm thinking we could get a better deal if Scola had a contract set and had argeed to a buyout with Tau.

[Mr. Body]

Can only sign or trade his rights.

[Budkin]

I've been wanting the Spurs to bring over Scola the last couple of years and was bummed last year when we had to settle for Fab instead. Now... I don't know what to make of Scola's game. He always sounded like exactly what we needed but I've read a ton in this thread to suggest that he's not. Ah well, at least we will have an answer in a couple of days... hopefully. I'm still kind of hoping we bring him over and take a chance. I agree with the comment about him bringing the similar intangibles that Manu brings to the floor.

[Bruno]

Can the spurs sign and trade Scola or is our only option to trade his rights? I'm thinking we could get a better deal if Scola had a contract set and had argeed to a buyout with Tau.

We can trade him 30 days after his signing with us.

[CaptainLate]

Phoenix, I assume. The team who almost drafted him in the first round.

If that was the case, why didn't they draft him in Round Two. He was still there, no? Did they not have a 2nd pick that draft?

[bigfan]

I still say bring over Scola and Javtokas. We can always find a backup PG cheap. Get rid of Marks, NVE.

[Bruno]

http://batanga.sportsya.com/noticia.php?id=104075&id_estruc=1

Tau's president has again postponed his press conference concerning Scola of two days (from tuesday to thursday) and Scola's buyout is $4M.

[Kori Ellis]

Won't it be funny if after all this Scola ends up a Spur. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Won't it be funny if after all this Scola ends up a Spur. :lol

I'll set the forum record for most :rolleyes smileys in one post.

[Bruno]

Maybe Spurs really like him and are trying to lower his value to get him at a cheap price.

One thing is sure : Scola's case isn't simple as " Spurs don't want him and other nba teams have little interest for him".

[Quadzilla99]

One thing is sure : Scola's case isn't simple as " Spurs don't want him and other nba teams have little interest for him".

Spurs have said they have no interest in him. What else are you supposed believe. Of course could be a negotiating tactic. At $4 million/year they were making it seem like no one had interest in him and they didn't either. Maybe brilliant negotiating. If it was I was fooled.

[furry_spurry]

One thing is sure : Scola's case isn't simple as " Spurs don't want him and other nba teams have little interest for him".
I still believe there are teams interested in him. It is time for the Spurs to do right by him and trade his rights.

[Mr. Body]

What's amazing to me is how it's always "CIA Pop this" and "CIA Pop that" and "they always do the exact opposite of what they say!" but then everyone on this board is utterly willing to believe the Spurs when they say they don't want Luis Scola.

[Quadzilla99]

Nobody said that "Spurs don't want him and other nba teams have little interest for him".

They said apparently nobody wants him at $4 million a year or that was the general consensus that nobody wants him at $4 million a year. Not that nobody wants him at all.

[Quadzilla99]

What's amazing to me is how it's always "CIA Pop this" and "CIA Pop that" and "they always do the exact opposite of what they say!" but then everyone on this board is utterly willing to believe the Spurs when they say they don't want Luis Scola.

Yeah well as usual we still don't know anything. That's always the one constant with that group :lol :lol.

[Bruno]

The Spurs have looked into trading Brent Barry and the rights to Argentine forward Luis Scola, but they also may need Mohammed's cooperation in a sign-and-trade to pull off a deal. Interest in Scola, so far, has been lukewarm.

If the Spurs don't trade Scola, they would likely leave him overseas. Because Scola has a $3.5million buyout with his Spanish team, he is expected to seek a contract averaging about $4million annually, a figure the Spurs — for now — don't appear willing to pay given they already have four power forwards under contract. That doesn't include Javtokas, who also can play the position.


And the fact that Tau has posponed two times the conference to announce Scola's future doesn't match. It's really strange, it's all "CIA Pop"

[Mr. Body]

TAU likely doesn't want Scola back. They thought this was going to go much easier for them, they'd get the buyout money and could use that to get players for their future. San Antonio threw a roadblock up by being tough (and sometimes unresponsive) negotiators.

[bigfan]

I think we could use him. If we bring Scola and Javtokas Im happy with the off season. Keep Beno by the way.

[Kori Ellis]

TAU likely doesn't want Scola back. They thought this was going to go much easier for them, they'd get the buyout money and could use that to get players for their future. San Antonio threw a roadblock up by being tough (and sometimes unresponsive) negotiators.

Why do you think they don't want Scola back? I thought they just offered him a 3-year contract extension and are waiting for his answer.

[Bruno]

TAU likely doesn't want Scola back.

That's why they have offered him a big salary raise and a contract extention until 2011.
Scola is Tau's franchise player. Saying that they don't want him back, it's like saying Spurs don't want Duncan back.

[Kori Ellis]

And the fact that Tau has posponed two times the conference to announce Scola's future doesn't match. It's really strange, it's all "CIA Pop"

It matches if they are the middle of trade talks with a team and Scola's waiting to see if those pan out before commiting to an extension with Tau.

[Kori Ellis]

Okay, here's another new Scola article.

What does it say?
http://www.baskonia.com/web/noticias_miercoles1.asp

Situación estacionaria para Scola

La ausencia de noticias en torno a Luis Scola es la mejor nueva para el TAU
Cerámica. Durante la jornada de ayer la prórroga de tres días solicitada al Baskonia por los agentes del jugador para buscar una salida a la NBA siguió corriendo sin que se registraran movimientos definitivos. Fuentes cercanas al jugador aseguraron que la situación permanece estacionaria. Ni los San Antonio Spurs han mostrado aún ninguna predisposición a traspasar los derechos del porteño ni la puerta se ha abierto en dirección a cualquier otra franquicia.

En el bullicioso mercado de la NBA, muchos jugadores comienzan a cambiar de destino y los clubes atrapan sus primeras adquisiciones, pero los Spurs ni siquiera se animan a utilizar como moneda de cambio a un baloncestista al que ya han comunicado que no desean enrolar este verano.

[Mr. Body]

Why do you think they don't want Scola back? I thought they just offered him a 3-year contract extension and are waiting for his answer.

I'm just feeling around for a reason here.

Which would be... TAU wants to force his hand by saying 'you either leave now for the NBA or you stay in Europe forever.' I guess it doesn't make total sense. The consolation for them is he does stay with them, something they wouldn't mind, but I think they're really after the money.

[Bruno]

It matches if they are the middle of trade talks with a team and Scola's waiting to see if those pan out before commiting to an extension with Tau.

But interest for Scola is supposed to be "lukewarm", that's why I find that strange.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm just feeling around for a reason here.

Which would be... TAU wants to force his hand by saying 'you either leave now for the NBA or you stay in Europe forever.' I guess it doesn't make total sense. The consolation for them is he does stay with them, something they wouldn't mind, but I think they're really after the money.

Well I guess I'd believe that if his contract ended in 2007. But his current contract doesn't even end til 2008, right?

[Bruno]

What does it say?


It says no news.

[Mr. Body]

A lot of this doesn't make sense. If Scola signs an extension, why couldn't he request them to drop the buyout clause, or considerably lessen it? Doesn't he have some control over this situation?

I don't know why everything has to come to a head this summer. I originally thought his contract was over next summer, but apparently he has two more years left. So much of this is confusing.

[furry_spurry]

Kori- my Spanish is awful but I think it says there hasn't been a change in Scola's situation.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Okay, here's another new Scola article.

What does it say?
http://www.baskonia.com/web/noticias_miercoles1.asp

Situación estacionaria para Scola

La ausencia de noticias en torno a Luis Scola es la mejor nueva para el TAU
Cerámica. Durante la jornada de ayer la prórroga de tres días solicitada al Baskonia por los agentes del jugador para buscar una salida a la NBA siguió corriendo sin que se registraran movimientos definitivos. Fuentes cercanas al jugador aseguraron que la situación permanece estacionaria. Ni los San Antonio Spurs han mostrado aún ninguna predisposición a traspasar los derechos del porteño ni la puerta se ha abierto en dirección a cualquier otra franquicia.

En el bullicioso mercado de la NBA, muchos jugadores comienzan a cambiar de destino y los clubes atrapan sus primeras adquisiciones, pero los Spurs ni siquiera se animan a utilizar como moneda de cambio a un baloncestista al que ya han comunicado que no desean enrolar este verano.

Stationary situation for Scola

The absence of the news around Luis Scola is best the new one for the Ceramic TAU. During the day of yesterday the prorogation of three days solicitd to the Baskonia by the agents of the player to look for an exit to the NBA it continued running without definitive movements were registered. Sources near the player assured that the situation remains stationary. Neither San Antonio Spurs has shown still no predisposition to transfer the rights of Buenosairean nor the door has opened itself in the direction of any other tax exemption.


In the boisterous market of the NBA, many players they begin change assignments and the clubs catch his first acquisitions, but the Spurs not even is animated to use like currency of change to a baloncestista to which already they have communicated that does not wish to enlist this summer

[lefty]

:lmao

[ElNono]

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/demotivational-posters-quadruple-facepalm.jpg

[Mr. Body]

Oh God. I still think this was the end of the Spurs' competitiveness. They fucked this up soooooooooooooooo bad.

Of course they did win in '07, but GSW helped out a TON by knocking out Dallas. But without the Scola epic chicken-fuckery, we might have had a repeat and maybe another 'ship after that.