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ducks
06-24-2006, 11:41 AM
New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
'Humiliated' Larry may quit: source
BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Saturday, June 24th, 2006

Larry Brown feels so humiliated by the way the Knicks treated him over the last two months that he is considering retirement, according to a person close to the Hall of Fame coach. But he still wants the $40 million the Knicks owe him.

"I don't think there is any way he coaches next season," the source said. "This could be it. He said the last eight weeks were the most humiliating of his life." :laugh :laugh

Brown was fired as Knicks head coach on Thursday following a contentious one-hour meeting with Garden chairman James Dolan and team president Isiah Thomas. But the Brown saga is far from over. Dolan is fighting to keep the $40million owed to Brown, citing just cause for the firing.

The Knicks, according to a high-ranking team official, contend that Brown violated the terms of his contract by, among other things, failing to return phone calls to Thomas, refusing to hold exit interviews with players, departing the predraft camp in Orlando one day early without authorization and talking to the media without a PR staffer present. ( IF YOU DO NOT OBEY THE CONTRACT RULES WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS THAT HE DESERVES MORE MONEY????)In the past month, Brown conducted roadside interviews one block from the Knicks' training facility in Greenburgh. It was during his first such session that Brown referred to himself as a "dead man walking."

Those so-called violations probably won't get the 65-year-old Brown thrown in prison, nor are they expected to prevent him from collecting most - if not all - of his money. The tactic only demonstrates how angry Dolan is with Brown and how bitter he is at having to pay Brown a total of $50 million for 11months of work.

Brown has a clause in his contract that designates NBA commissioner David Stern to serve as an arbitrator in the event of a financial dispute. The commissioner's office has not said when Stern will make a ruling.

"We will work aggressively to protect Larry's interests," said Joe Glass, Brown's longtime agent. "That's what we intend to do."

Brown was home in Greenwich, Conn., yesterday and not available for comment. He was expected to drive to his summer home in East Hampton, L.I., late last night with his family, which just returned from a trip to London. Neither Dolan nor Thomas has commented since Brown was fired; the announcement came in a statement. Dolan's only public sighting was a concert three weeks ago in Manhattan, when he failed to acknowledge a small group of reporters as he walked right past them.

Nuggets head coach George Karl, a longtime friend of Brown's, said in a television interview that the NBA Coaches Association will support Brown. Karl also told ESPN that the Knicks put Brown "through a year of hell" and that the Knicks' handling of Brown's protracted firing gives the league "a black eye."

The Knicks finished 23-59 - matching the franchise record for losses in a season despite owning the league's highest payroll. From all indications, Dolan had made the decision in early April to fire Brown. However, the Knicks left Brown twisting in the wind while requiring him to run the team's draft workouts and attend the predraft camp in Orlando.

During the last five weeks, Brown and Thomas no longer were on speaking terms. In Orlando, the Knicks held at least two private workouts with players but did not invite Brown to attend.

Brown told close associates that he couldn't understand why the Knicks were putting him through "torture." He was particularly upset with Thomas, whom he reached out to three years ago when Thomas was fired by the Indiana Pacers.

It is unclear if Thomas is eager to replace Brown on the bench. For the past three seasons, Thomas has said that it is impossible to do both jobs in New York. As it turned out, Pat Riley wanted both jobs but when management refused, he left for Miami.

When Thomas replaced Scott Layden as president, it was widely speculated that Thomas eventually would coach the team. League executives were convinced that Thomas, who enjoys autonomy, never would find a coach to his liking. Since Thomas arrived, he has fired Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens and Brown. Wilkens survived the longest, 81 games.

Herb Williams served as interim coach after Wilkens was fired. Last July, both Thomas and Dolan hinted that Williams would serve as Brown's successor once Brown's run as coach ended. Perhaps Dolan and Thomas never imagined Brown lasting just 79 games or they never intended to make Williams the full-time coach in the first place.

Williams is expected to remain as an assistant. Brown's two assistant coaches, Dave Hanners and Phil Ford, probably will be reassigned. Both coaches are under contract for four more years. Another Brown assistant, Brendan O'Connor, recently was hired by the Sacramento Kings.

RON ARTEST
06-24-2006, 11:57 AM
all i can say is thank god petrie got musselman instead. larry is such a mental case.

Extra Stout
06-24-2006, 12:14 PM
Larry probably doesn't need to coach again. He's up there in years, he has health problems, and his emotional issues have gotten worse.

Nobody can take his NBA and NCAA titles away; nobody can erase his record of turning teams around everywhere but New York. But he made the greatest mistake of his career leaving Detroit. He finally had the situation he claimed he longed for, but his wanderlust was stronger.

He will always be remembered as the itinerant coach.

The Knicks, meanwhile, have sunk to depths that I don't think even the Clippers ever reached. James Dolan is the worst owner in all of professional sports, worse even than Bill Bidwell, or the guy who owns the Royals.

It really hurts the league to have such a disaster of a franchise in the league's #1 market. Once the Nets move to Brooklyn, we may see a switch of popularity between teams not unlike what happened between the White Sox and the Cubs in the middle of the 20th century.

trueD
06-24-2006, 12:25 PM
all i can say is thank god petrie got musselman instead. larry is such a mental case.Yeah, write me in as one who wanted Brown. Numbers do, at times, speak louder than senility. :lol

SPARKY
06-24-2006, 12:29 PM
Pop could use LB on his bench.

RON ARTEST
06-24-2006, 12:39 PM
Pop could use LB on his bench.
i really dont think larry brown and his enormous ego would ever take an assistant coaching job. why would he take that job when he could be a head coach somwhere else like washington or golden state? the spurs dont need a distraction like larry brown.

RON ARTEST
06-24-2006, 12:40 PM
Yeah, write me in as one who wanted Brown. Numbers do, at times, speak louder than senility. :lol
i wanted larry brown also but then after i thought about it for a couple minutes i realized it would be very stupid. :lol

Fabbs
06-24-2006, 12:50 PM
So how much money did Larry make off the
Sixers
Pistons
Knicks (potential $40 more million, what did he make for the signing bonus and last years salary)?

Detroit one more year I concur he should have stayed. Chance for 2 out of 3 and 3 straight Finals appearances, that would have been the way to go out.

SPARKY
06-24-2006, 01:17 PM
i really dont think larry brown and his enormous ego would ever take an assistant coaching job. why would he take that job when he could be a head coach somwhere else like washington or golden state? the spurs dont need a distraction like larry brown.

I'm sure Pop could find room for his best friend on the bench.

ducks
06-24-2006, 01:20 PM
I am sure mj could pay more then that cheap ass holt to
and larry brown is good friends with mj and he likes nc

Pero
06-25-2006, 04:57 PM
all i can say is thank god petrie got musselman instead.
larry is such a mental case.

:lol :lol :lol

strangeweather
06-25-2006, 05:07 PM
Nobody can take his NBA and NCAA titles away; nobody can erase his record of turning teams around everywhere but New York. But he made the greatest mistake of his career leaving Detroit. He finally had the situation he claimed he longed for, but his wanderlust was stronger.

He will always be remembered as the itinerant coach.
I totally agree -- if he could have kept himself from flirting with other teams, he would have had a job in Detroit for as long as he wanted with a contending team to coach and a fanbase that thought he was great.

His last year has been a disaster, and he did it to himself.

Having said that, sometimes people are humbled enough from their mistakes that they learn from them. I could imagine Larry landing somewhere like Golden State or Houston and performing one last turnaround before he retires.

boutons_
06-25-2006, 05:59 PM
"humbled enough from their mistakes that they learn from them"

But this old Larry dog probably isn't going to learn any new tricks. He's got a young wife, and kid(s), and millions in his pocket, and somewhat ailing, time to retire.

mike detroit
06-25-2006, 07:05 PM
i really dont think larry brown and his enormous ego would ever take an assistant coaching job. why would he take that job when he could be a head coach somwhere else like washington or golden state? the spurs dont need a distraction like larry brown.

I agree that he wouldn't take an assistant job. I wouldn't rule out a position in scouting though. It's what Jim Leyland did before he joined the tigers this year.