Matt Bonner Sucks

[SequSpur]

The Spurs just became softer than ever. How many more paper thin 6 10 and over guys can they get?

The Spurs need muscle, rebounding, speed, swagger and they got a 6 10 3 point shootin redhead that can't drive.

WTF?

[Mr. Body]

I kind of agree. Not that Bonner sucks, but that he's soft. I'd like the Spurs to get some tough inside pieces (Javtokas helps). But we traded soft for soft here.

[SPARKY]

This pretty much guarantees that Bonner goes for 9 & 6 in 18 minutes a night next season.

[Nesterofish]

Bonner has red hair. That means he's Irish. Get him drunk and he'll deck the opposing center.

[SequSpur]

6 what? 6 games played? That's about it. Another piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit.

[SPARKY]

*rimshot*

[Nesterofish]

Matt Bonner is a poor man's Brian Scalabrine.

[SequSpur]

Matt Bonner warms up chairs for lottery teams.

[Mr. Body]

Matt Bonner is a poor man's Brian Scalabrine.

That's because Scalabrine is way, way, way, way, way overpaid.

How about Brian Cardinal?

[timvp]

Two things you can't say about Bonner is he's thin and soft. You can say he's fat, slow or unathletic and you'd have more of a case.

That said, Bonner is going to be a good role player. 7 and 4 is very doable out of him.

[Kori Ellis]

They took any player at all that would get rid of Rasho.

Last season they tried trading Rasho for a guy who didn't even play in the league.

So it doesn't matter if Bonner is short, fat, tall, skinny, or whatever. He got rid of Rasho's contract, which was management goal.

Bonner is not the athletic rebounding forward that the Spurs need. He's a perimeter guy who will space the floor with his shooting, and play scrappy.

[SPARKY]

Bonner should be a nice bench player in SA. Compared to what they were willing to take back last summer, he's much better.

[SequSpur]

Exactly, Bonner is/was the missing piece to getting rid of Rasho. Other than that, he will be an excellent bench player. He will probably lead the team in minutes on the bench.

The Bonner trade doesn't address a costly Game 7 foul by Ginobili.

[SenorSpur]

Besides, the Spurs are only into him for this upcoming season only. After which his contract expires.

[SPARKY]

Besides, the Spurs are only into him for this upcoming season only. After which his contract expires.

There is that. The Spurs can simply enjoy the expiring contracts themselves.

[SequSpur]

There is that. The Spurs can simply enjoy the expiring contracts themselves.

Exactly. WOAI acts like he is the next piece to a championship.

[Que Gee]

They took any player at all that would get rid of Rasho.

Last season they tried trading Rasho for a guy who didn't even play in the league.

So it doesn't matter if Bonner is short, fat, tall, skinny, or whatever. He got rid of Rasho's contract, which was management goal.

Bonner is not the athletic rebounding forward that the Spurs need. He's a perimeter guy who will space the floor with his shooting, and play scrappy.

What do you guys think of Mikale Pietrus from the Warriors...Good defender, young...more of an offensive upside than Bruce.
:spin

[intlspurshk]

MP or Jared Jeffries is the possible future SF that SPURS need but the problem is how to get them? SPURS don't have many trade assets IMO and Barry, Beno and Scola aren't that attractive

[Trainwreck2100]

So they got rid of Rasho and somehow got softer? That goes against laws of physics.

[SPARKY]

MP or Jared Jeffries is the possible future SF that SPURS need but the problem is how to get them? SPURS don't have many trade assets IMO and Barry, Beno and Scola aren't that attractive

What they do have is the ability to take back a bad contract. I'd also say that Scola and Udrih aren't great, but they aren't chopped liver either.

[MannyIsGod]

Exactly. WOAI acts like he is the next piece to a championship.And Sequ acts as though they need to bring in the second coming of David Robinson in order to achieve a championship.

This team is/was championship material with or without any further moves. That said, its not even July yet.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

We traded softer for soft.

And saved some money, along with adding a 3 point shooter. What's the minus again?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Matt Bonner warms up chairs for lottery teams.

As has Avery.

As has Will Perdue.

As have many players whose skills aren't used properly on a team that has too many holes to fill, and can't just let a player do what he does and either ask too much or don't work him into there offense/defense.

[beirmeistr]

So they got rid of Rasho and somehow got softer? That goes against laws of physics.
Lol, that's funny.

[Doc Jerome]

I was wondering who would be the first to come out and say it. Kudos to SequSpur.

[leemajors]

quick, someone photoshop bonner's head onto that pic of ferry diving for a loose ball.

[SPARKY]

Spurs move a bad contract and get a bench big who can knock down 3s, hustles and isn't afraid to play physical. They also got rid of a serious long term commitment which should free them up to make some moves this summer. Considering that last summer they were willing to take back the rotting corpse of Tariq Abdul-Wahad's career for Nesterovic they did well. Add to that a sizable expiring contract they have now which should be a nice tradeable asset and they've had a good start to the offseason.

[kalikot_boy_kr]

i like matt bonner! go matt!!!!

[waly.mg]

6´10", 3 Points Shooter and some rebounds from the Bench

Probably Hedo Turkoglu is Back

[Texas_Ranger]

Rasho>>>>>Matt

[dmac]

Bonner has red hair. That means he's Irish. Get him drunk and he'll deck the opposing center.
nice. Jerk!

[FromWayDowntown]

All of you who are complaining -- what the hell did you want the Spurs to get for Rasho? Did you honestly think they'd be able to go out and get some hard-as-nails Rodman-like rebounder or an uber-athlete like Wade or James? Was trading Rasho somehow supposed to allow the Spurs to address all of their needs in one fell swoop? Seriously -- WTF did you guys expect to get in passing off Rasho?

Matt Bonner isn't ever going to be anything more than a role player, but I figured most would be pleased that he's a role player who's not named Rasho. If Bonner hits 1 three pointer every night and can play 10 minutes a night in the playoffs, he'll be more effective offensively than the dude he's replacing.

[Quadzilla99]

If you look at this ESPN Insider report Bonner sucks defensively and is terrible on the boards. Considering that those are the exact things Pop stresses with his bigs I find it hard to see how he is going to get much run if any. This is from before 2005-06:

Bonner was one of the NBA's biggest surprises in 2004-05. A second-round draft pick in 2003 who played in Italy for a year, he came back to North America and immediately proved he belonged. Bonner is a very unusual player because he's a big,
wide-bodied guy who likes to hang out on the perimeter. Probably the most comparable player from recent history would be Matt Bullard, but Bullard wasn't getting minutes when he was Bonner's age so his name didn't come up in the Similarity Scores.

Bonner shot most of his jumpers from two-point range, which usually doesn't work out great numbers-wise, but his stroke was so consistent that he ended up with an outstanding 59.6 TS%. Because he rarely dribbled the ball, his Turnover Ratio also was excellent. Bonner's wide body and deadly jump shot made him a perfect pick-and-roll partner with Alston, and Toronto should take advantage of that more than they did last season.

Bonner's weaknesses start when the other team has the ball. He got absolutely destroyed on the boards and had trouble with almost every variety of defensive match-up. The Raptors often went to zone defenses to try to hide his shortcomings, especially when they used a frontcourt of Bonner, Marshall, and Bosh. That trio was deadly on offense, but the defensive cost was more than Toronto could bear on most nights.

Bonner is a restricted free agent, so it shouldn't be a problem for the Raptors to retain his rights. It might cost them a bit more than last season's minimum contract, but with Marshall gone, Bonner's role stands to increase significantly.

[texlawman]

Love the Bonner move. Now just go sign Loren Woods and you will have an excellent marshmellow offseason.

[Mr. Body]

Bonner will barely get any time off the bench. This was to dump Nesterovic salary first, second, and third.

[mabber]

They took any player at all that would get rid of Rasho.

Last season they tried trading Rasho for a guy who didn't even play in the league.

So it doesn't matter if Bonner is short, fat, tall, skinny, or whatever. He got rid of Rasho's contract, which was management goal.

Bonner is not the athletic rebounding forward that the Spurs need. He's a perimeter guy who will space the floor with his shooting, and play scrappy.

Exactly!

[SPARKY]

The deal motivation first and foremost was to dump Rasho's contract. That being said, the Spurs picked up two nice pieces, a perimeter shooting, hustling big who should be a nice 4th big and a small forward with an expiring contract who at worst reduces your payroll by $4 mil next summer.

[rascal]

They took any player at all that would get rid of Rasho.

Last season they tried trading Rasho for a guy who didn't even play in the league.

So it doesn't matter if Bonner is short, fat, tall, skinny, or whatever. He got rid of Rasho's contract, which was management goal.

Bonner is not the athletic rebounding forward that the Spurs need. He's a perimeter guy who will space the floor with his shooting, and play scrappy.
Agree with this. The main point of the trade was getting rid of Rasho who wasn't in the spurs plans anymore. Bonner won't be much more than a limited role player.

[rascal]

The problem is Pop signed Rasho. He screwed up on that fa signing. What a bust he was.

[Mr. Body]

The problem is Pop signed Rasho. He screwed up on that fa signing. What a bust he was.

We may not win 2003 without him. Pop paid fair market value, maybe even less, when the alternative was Michael Olowokandi. Big men are simply overpaid in this league and they did well by getting him for what they did - and then moving him when he lost his effectiveness.

[jman3000]

It's like people expect him to be a savior or something... first of all we don't need a savior... second of all he is what he is, a cog in the wheel that should add an extra dimension to the team.

[blaze89]

They took any player at all that would get rid of Rasho.

Last season they tried trading Rasho for a guy who didn't even play in the league.

So it doesn't matter if Bonner is short, fat, tall, skinny, or whatever. He got rid of Rasho's contract, which was management goal.

Bonner is not the athletic rebounding forward that the Spurs need. He's a perimeter guy who will space the floor with his shooting, and play scrappy.

So, basically, his job is done.

[Slinkyman]

We may not win 2003 without him. Pop paid fair market value, maybe even less, when the alternative was Michael Olowokandi. Big men are simply overpaid in this league and they did well by getting him for what they did - and then moving him when he lost his effectiveness.

Rasho wasn't on that team

[Mr. Body]

Rasho wasn't on that team

You're right. What was I thinking? Never mind - he was a scrub.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ confusing David Robinson with Rasho. What the fuck?

[Nesterofish]

:lmao @ confusing David Robinson with Rasho. What the fuck?
If 5-0 were deprived of oxygen for six minutes, his lips might turn blue.

[horrorshow]

All of you who are complaining -- what the hell did you want the Spurs to get for Rasho? Did you honestly think they'd be able to go out and get some hard-as-nails Rodman-like rebounder or an uber-athlete like Wade or James? Was trading Rasho somehow supposed to allow the Spurs to address all of their needs in one fell swoop? Seriously -- WTF did you guys expect to get in passing off Rasho?

Matt Bonner isn't ever going to be anything more than a role player, but I figured most would be pleased that he's a role player who's not named Rasho. If Bonner hits 1 three pointer every night and can play 10 minutes a night in the playoffs, he'll be more effective offensively than the dude he's replacing.

No shit! This trade was only to get rid of Rasho's wasted contract. If Bonner develops great! If he doesn't, that's fine too.

[dbestpro]

Did anybody notice that Rasho is now the highest paid player in Toronto?

[exstatic]

My head is exploding with Sequ complaining about ANY circumstances that rids us of Rasho...WTF?

[ATX Spur]

True, but the Raptors are still wayyy under the cap.

[Solid D]

:lmao @ this thread. I think Sequ accomplished his mission on this topic...2 pages already.

[Zoe String]

Rasho is going to average 12 and 6, if only because of the system and lack of talent around him.

I predict people will blame Pop for his lack of production in S.A.