WOAI reporting Spurs interested in Jeffries...

[Please_dont_ban_me]

...my question is, who is there source? :lol

I have a sneaking suspicion Chancellor views forums and then passes of shit as his own idea.

[Solid D]

Theory: Jeff Vexler and Chance were talking about it over at the water cooler and it probably became an official rumor.

[ChumpDumper]

They read the Post.

[exstatic]

Theory: other than noted slacker Tim Thomas, Jeffries is the only multi-skilled long combo forward available in FA.

They're throwing darts at a Spurs need.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

They read the Post.

The part he quoted just stated how much he made last year, and that the Wiz would like to keep him but at the right price. Does the actual article reference the Spurs in any way?

[ChumpDumper]

IIRC, it did.

[ChumpDumper]

The Times said the same today.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/20060626-115926-5134r.htm

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Sweet, so it's not just our speculation...looks like the Spurs are actually interested.

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, now it's just a matter of who will overpay for him.

[Mr. Body]

I'm about as thrilled by Jared Jeffries as I am a glass of water.

[T Park]

body

your not impressed by anyone.

I don't know who the HELL you want.....

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Why is there such a lack of enthusiasm for Jeffries?

He did a nice job on James, he fits a need for this team, and we won't have to pay him TOO much. Five mill a year isn't too bad, assuming we can get him for around that much.



Oh, and he's not a geezer.

[SequSpur]

Since the Spurs have ran off all of their centers, they definitely need someone. :lol

The fact is they don't have any jack and there ain't shit available unless they trade one of the big three. :lmao

Pop is on a roll now!

[ChumpDumper]

He's no Reggie Evans....

[exstatic]

I'm about as thrilled by Jared Jeffries as I am a glass of water.
It's fucking June in SA. Water is GOOD!

If the Spurs go after him, it's because they are projecting something that he hasn't shown yet. He's never had meaningful minutes. What I like about him. other than his versatility, is that across the board, his playoff numbers are better than his career numbers. One example: he's a career 59% FT shooter in four seasons (the perfect Spur!), and yet his playoff FT percentage is 76%.

These are the kinds of players that are available for role player money, 5-6M. If he were averaging 18/9, the Spurs would never get a whiff.

[ChumpDumper]

He's never had meaningful minutes.:wtf

He started over 70 games the past two seasons.

[exstatic]

His highest minutes, EVER, was 28.1 in 04-05, and his career average is 24. That's not "starter" minutes, no matter who's on the court when the tip goes up. I thought the Spurs brought Parker along fairly slowly as far as minutes go, but his rookie season was his low at 29.4, and he hasn't looked back

[Please_dont_ban_me]

His highest minutes, EVER, was 28.1 in 04-05, and his career average is 24. That's not "starter" minutes, no matter who's on the court when the tip goes up. I thought the Spurs brought Parker along fairly slowly as far as minutes go, but his rookie season was his low at 29.4, and he hasn't looked back

Parker was pretty much thrown into the starting role.

If you're looking for somebody to compare Jeffries to, compare him to a SJax or a Bowen...someone who makes that kinda money. 29 minutes a game 2 seasons into your career isn't too bad for a role player.

[ChumpDumper]

His highest minutes, EVER, was 28.1 in 04-05, and his career average is 24. That's not "starter" minutes, no matter who's on the court when the tip goes up. I thought the Spurs brought Parker along fairly slowly as far as minutes go, but his rookie season was his low at 29.4, and he hasn't looked backThat's still alot of minutes, certainly enough to show what one can do on the court.

I'll try to convince myself he has mad upside, but I'm skeptical.

[El_Mago]

Ahhhhh

:smokin

[T Park]

lol

another person that is not happy with anyone suggested.



Since the Spurs have ran off all of their centers, they definitely need someone.

The fact is they don't have any jack and there ain't shit available unless they trade one of the big three.

Pop is on a roll now!

and you make less sense than ever.

[exstatic]

29 minutes a game 2 seasons into your career isn't too bad for a role player.
Except that he was a lottery pick.

I know Parker was thrown into the starting role. That's my point. Some kid from France comes in and gets more minutes his rookie year running the point than Washington's lottery pick ever got, and Parker almost split time with Terry Porter. like 29/19.

[exstatic]

That's still alot of minutes, certainly enough to show what one can do on the court.

I'll try to convince myself he has mad upside, but I'm skeptical.

I don't think he even needs "mad" upside. If you can get 10/7 and some good defense out of him, Dallas can't draw us into the smallball game.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd much rather overpay him than Evans, so he gets my vote.

[El_Mago]

Jeffries Baby.....

Been on this kid since the Spurs got kicked out of the playoffs....

The Basketball Gods shall let it be...

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Except that he was a lottery pick.

I know Parker was thrown into the starting role. That's my point. Some kid from France comes in and gets more minutes his rookie year running the point than Washington's lottery pick ever got, and Parker almost split time with Terry Porter. like 29/19.

They have Caron Butler, Antonio Daniels and Gilbert Arenas to play most of the minutes at the guard and small forward positions...so naturally he wouldn't see that many minutes.

That, and the Wiz aren't exactly a defensively oriented team. His style doesn't fit that team so much as it might here...hopefully.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't forget Jarvis Hayes is cleared to play ball again too.

[El_Mago]

However, it's been rumored that Jeffries is looking to land somewhere where the offense flows freely and is very up-tempo....

As I have stated before, the Wiz have a lot of money tied up in Daniels, Butler, Arenas, Jamison, Haywood, Thomas, and are going to have to secure Jarvis Hayes too....money is tight there now.

Jeffries won't command a full MLE deal IMO. He has not had a breakout season to deserve one, nor did he have an amazing playoffs, and his previous stats do not give him any grounds to demand one either. Nor, is he a big man (Center or true PF) that end up getting that type of cash just for pete's sake....but I guess you can never be too sure.

[exstatic]

To me, you're not overpaying him at $5-6M. He did an AWESOME job on defense in the Cleveland series, and that included time on LeBron. To me, the worst case is that he turns out to be a 6'11" better rebounding and ballhandling version of Bowen.

[SsKSpurs21]

jefferies stats are very similar to bowens...except jefferies is listed at 6'11'' 240lbs and bowen is listed at 6'7'' 200lbs.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

jefferies stats are very similar to bowens...except jefferies is listed at 6'11'' 240lbs and bowen is listed at 6'7'' 200lbs.

Bowen doesn't produce stats.

What he does doesn't show up on the sheet. That said, Jeffries isn't as good of a defender as Bowen but then again...only 2-3 other guys in the NBA can say they are. Jeffries played Lebron VERY well, as well as just about anybody has who I have seen.


He can be groomed into as good of a, if not better than, defender than Bowen.

[ChumpDumper]

One other thing that might work in our favor is that the Wiz have a Jeffries clone in the incubator who is five years younger -- Andray Blatche.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Let's look at his options:

Chicago - Good up and coming team. Will be spending money on Nazr, how much is left over to pay him...I dunno.

Houston - Would probably fit in nice, especially if they draft a Reddick. Adding JJ and Jeffries would be solid for that team. But the team sucks right now, and has for a while now.

Philadelphia - They haven't shown loyalty to any of there players. They're even trying to trade AI. The teams in disarray. The team sucks. The fans aren't very welcoming.

San Antonio - Probably not as much partying/nightlife as he would get in a bigger city, but a good team that can pay him, and will give him minutes on the floor along with a chance to win a championship. He'll have to learn to fit into the system though, and know he will never be more than a 4th option.

New York - I don't even know what money they would sign him with, but the team has some pieces...and has been adding some pieces...and they still suck. No job security, no minutes security, no guarantee of any sort going there other than it being a big city.





Out of those options, I would say it's between Chicago and the Spurs. I hope Chicago overspends on Nazr and can't afford Jeffries. :D

[ChumpDumper]

Chicago doesn't seem to need him at all given their present roster.

[exstatic]

I agree, CD. With Nocioni and Deng, they have his skillset covered.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Chicago doesn't seem to need him at all given their present roster.

I guess Nocioni and Deng are similar players.

[exstatic]

Question: If we were to, say, throw Williams and the rights to Scola at them, and all parties were agreeable, could we/Washington give him more years than someone who just wanted to sign him away at the MCE? Could we/Washington technically go 6 years, since he's their Bird rights player?

[ChumpDumper]

If the salaries matched, yes -- technically.

There would probably be BYC issues, however.

[exstatic]

If the salaries matched, yes -- technically.

There would probably be BYC issues, however.
With a S&T?

[Brutalis]

Jeffries is not 6-11 240.

More like 6-9 220.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Jeffries is not 6-11 240.

More like 6-9 220.

So ESPN is lying?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3609

[ChumpDumper]

With a S&T?Yes, because Jeffries would become a BYC player after he's signed for anything a little over $2.4 million and before he's traded.

[ChumpDumper]

Jeffries is not 6-11 240.

More like 6-9 220.In 2002's draft camp he measured 6-11 in shoes and weighed 230lbs. 7-0 1/2 wingspan.

[Quadzilla99]

Except that he was a lottery pick.

I know Parker was thrown into the starting role. That's my point. Some kid from France comes in and gets more minutes his rookie year running the point than Washington's lottery pick ever got, and Parker almost split time with Terry Porter. like 29/19.

Actually Daniels started that year at the beginning but said he was more comfortable coming off the bench. So Parker started. Daniels played some 2 guard but mostly backup point. Porter was the third point guard. By the End of the year Parker was clearly the best.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Actually Daniels started that year at the beginning but said he was more comfortable coming off the bench. So Parker started. Daniels played some 2 guard but mostly backup point. Porter was the third point guard.

You sure that's right?

I don't feel like looking it up but that doesn't sound right. Wasn't Parker thrown in after like 6 games and told he's the new starter?

[Doug Collins]

Yeah Tony was definitely thrown in as starter a couple of games into the season, I think it might have been 12 games in...not sure.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I just looked it up, it was the 5th or 6th game.

He played in 77 games that season and started 72.

[timvp]

Jared Jeffries is perfect except he doesn't do anything well.

Some say he's a good defender but I've never been overly impressed.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Jared Jeffries is perfect except he doesn't do anything well.

Some say he's a good defender but I've never been overly impressed.

Did you watch the Cleveland series?

For a team that's notoriously shitty on defense, the Wiz did a decent job on Lebron. Most of that was because of Jeffries.

[Doug Collins]

Did you watch the Cleveland series?

For a team that's notoriously shitty on defense, the Wiz did a decent job on Lebron. Most of that was because of Jeffries.

Not only did he play Lebron about as well as the refs will allow, but he was also able to get some nice timely blocks on help D. He´s not the greatest player but I like his game and he seems to work hard and listen, which many young players dont care to do. An athletic long player like Jefferies is just what we need, oh yeah and he´s not 30 years old.

[timvp]

Did you watch the Cleveland series?

For a team that's notoriously shitty on defense, the Wiz did a decent job on Lebron. Most of that was because of Jeffries.

You mean the first round where LeBron averaged 36, 8 and 6? Yeah, Jeffries looked like a good defender out there at times, but he's playing on the worst defensive team in recent memory. Brent Barry could go to that team and be a top two defender.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You mean the first round where LeBron averaged 36, 8 and 6? Yeah, Jeffries looked like a good defender out there at times, but he's playing on the worst defensive team in recent memory. Brent Barry could go to that team and be a top two defender.

Just 36 against one of the worst defenses in the NBA....that's a fucking miracle.

I wasn't saying he's the best defender on his team, that would be stupid...I was saying he defended Lebron well. Guarding one of the 3 best players in the NBA as well as anybody else has so far this season...that's an accomplishment, whether your teammates suck or not.



If it's not for Jeffries D I bet Lebron averages over 45 in that series. Nobody could hold him.

[Quadzilla99]

I just watched game 4 of the 2002 semis on NBA TV during the playoffs a month ago that's when the announcers said Daniels preferred coming off the bench. Didn't like the pressure of being a starter. Incidentally, that was the game where I punched a hole in the wall of the shitty apartment complex I was living at the time because Danny Ferry (Danny Fucking Ferry!!) was taking shots at the end of the the 4th quarter of a close game.

[Quadzilla99]

Jefferies is a decent defender and good finisher on the fast break. He just can't score at all so I wouldn't want him. Maybe if he was a really great defender and on the all defensive team. But he isn't.

[SPARKY]

Jeffries would be nice as a bench 3/4. Having some size at the 3 on occasion would be nice. I'm not sure about the Bowen comparisons just yet.

[texbound]

I heard Ernie Grunfeld(sp), Wiz president of bball operations, on the John Thompson Show this evening and he stated that the Wiz want to and plan on re-signing Jeffries. He didn't mention anything about a potential contract (because he can't), but that Jarvis Hayes and Jeffries are an intregral part of their plan.

[T Park]

Yeah, playing the FA game is not the way to add players.

Youd think we and the Spurs would've learned that after 2003.

[Slinkyman]

Jefferies is a decent defender and good finisher on the fast break. He just can't score at all so I wouldn't want him. Maybe if he was a really great defender and on the all defensive team. But he isn't.

Realisticly, what good defenders that can also score are available? Teams aren't just going to give us great players we have to find diamonds in the rough like PHX did with Diaw. Will Jeffries be next years Diaw? who knows but i'd rather take a chance on a young kid then go into next season with what we had on the bench this season.

[Bruno]

Will Jeffries be next years Diaw?

No. Jeffries is a limited BB player while Diaw has always been a talented player.

[Slinkyman]

No. Jeffries is a limited BB player while Diaw has always been a talented player.

you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench? :lolBruno?

Yes.

[exstatic]

No. Jeffries is a limited BB player while Diaw has always been a talented player.
Not in the NBA, he hasn't. He was viewed as a washout until a change of scenery and some PT showed his worth.

Diaw's numbers, when he was playing Jeffries type minutes, were worse, like 4.5/4.5.

[Bruno]

you knew that even though Diaw was stuck at the end of the Hawks bench? :lol

Yes.
Diaw had troubles with his coach at Atlanta and was a bad fit for this team, Jeffries isn't in the same situation at all.

[Bruno]

Diaw's numbers, when he was playing Jeffries type minutes, were worse, like 4.5/4.5.

You can't say, we will trade for Jeffries because his stats are as bad as Diaw's stats in Atlanta.

[exstatic]

Jeffries' stats were BETTER in limited minutes than Diaw's were.

[Bruno]

Jeffries' stats were BETTER in limited minutes than Diaw's were.

Do you say that we should take Jeffries because he has better stats than Diaw in Atlanta ?

[exstatic]

Do you say that we should take Jeffries because he has better stats than Diaw in Atlanta ?

In similar minutes, yes, that's what I'm saying. The situations, personality wise, may have been different, but neither was getting burn.

Neither one of them got a real chance with their drafting teams. I think Jeffries made more of his limited minutes than Diaw did, and didn't have any problems with the coaching staff, either.

[Bruno]

To sum up your thought (let me know if I'm wrong) :
Diaw sucks when he was a Hawks, Jeffries had slighty better stats than Diaw in Atlanta.
Now, Diaw is great with Suns so Jeffries will be great with his news teams ???

I don't get your logic at all :
Do you realize that you can find tons and tons of average players with better stats than Diaw with Atlanta : Does that mean that they all will be great ?
Do you realize too that Diaw and Jeffries are quite different ?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Jeffries is tougher than Diaw.

He's also longer and doesn't need the ball in his hands. I'd love to land him on this team.

[exstatic]

Now, Diaw is great with Suns so Jeffries will be great with his news teams ???

Not neccessarily "will", but definitely "could be". He has the skills. I understand your love for Diaw, since he is French, but realistically, his 13/7 aren't that tough a target to hit for someone as talented as Jeffries if he gets some minutes.

[Bruno]

Not neccessarily "will", but definitely "could be". He has the skills. I understand your love for Diaw, since he is French, but realistically, his 13/7 aren't that tough a target to hit for someone as talented as Jeffries if he gets some minutes.

My love for Diaw :lol has no links with that.
I just don't see Jeffries as a 13/7 players. He can get 7 boards with playtime but I don't see him getting 13 points : he is a very limited player on the offensive end. I just don't see Jeffries as a very talented player, his main qualities to me are that he is long and he is a clever guy.

BTW, what make Diaw's year great is that he is a 13/6/6 player . 13/6 aren't great stats.

[exstatic]

My love for Diaw :lol has no links with that.
I just don't see Jeffries as a 13/7 players. He can get 7 boards with playtime but I don't see him getting 13 points : he is a very limited player on the offensive end. I just don't see Jeffries as a very talented player, his main qualities to me are that he is long and he is a clever guy.

BTW, what make Diaw's year great is that he is a 13/6/6 player . 13/6 aren't great stats.
Well, in reality, the 13 and the second 6 are inflated by a system that puts a premium on getting up quick shots in volume. Whether you're doing the shooting, the passing or clearing the glass, you get more chances. If Diaw played on the Spurs, it would probably be more like 10/5/3.

Don't get me wrong. I LIKE DIAW. I just think that Jeffries has a chance to break out. He won't get the assists, but will probably board better.

[Slinkyman]

Look at Jeffries stats at the end of the season when he was getting solid minutes: 9.1/5.5/2.5 and shot over 50%. i think he can improve upon that even more on a team like the spurs

[Slinkyman]

washington post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006063001399.html)


The Wizards have 12 players under contract for next season and would like to lock up a 13th in restricted free agent guard Jared Jeffries . Free agency opens today, and the Wizards have the r ight to match any offer made to Jeffries, who has averaged 6.1 points and 4.8 rebounds in 256 career games.

According to a league source, several teams are interested in Jeffries, including the Bulls, Rockets, 76ers, Spurs and Knicks. Free agents can sign contracts on July 12. Should Jeffries sign an offer sheet, the Wizards would have seven days to match. Jeffries earned just under $2.8 million last season.

"We're approaching free agency with an open mind," said Jeffries' agent, Andy Miller .

The Wizards have $49 million in salary committed for next season (the salary cap will be set on July 29) and President of Basketball Operations Ernie Grunfeld has given no indication that the team will be a major player in free agency. The Wizards will have the mid-level exception (about $5 million) available.

It will also be an intriguing summer for center Brendan Haywood , whose relationship with coach Eddie Jordan disintegrated last season. Haywood averaged 7.3 points and 5.9 rebounds in 23.8 minutes and was replaced in the starting lineup twice.

"I've indicated to Ernie that we would like to see Brendan and Eddie sit down and work those issues out, but so far that hasn't happened," said Miller, who also represents Haywood. "At this point, I don't think the situation is productive for either party."

While Haywood would welcome a trade, Grunfeld believes Haywood can be an impact player for the Wizards this season. "Last year is behind us and we've put that behind us," Grunfeld said. "Brendan is working hard. . . . He's focused, he's committed and next year is a new season for everybody."

The Wizards' summer league squad will practice Monday through Wednesday, and will play in Las Vegas on Thursday through July 13 and in Long Beach, Calif., July 14-18.

First-round pick Oleksiy Pecherov will participate, but second-round pick Vladimir Veremeenko won't. According to his agent, Marc Cornstein , Veremeenko has commitments to the Belarusian national team and remains under contract to his team in the Russia Superleague.

We could kill two birds with one stone if we can swing a deal for Haywood and Jeffries for maybe Barry and Oberto.

[Mr. Body]

Who the hell wants Barry and Oberto?

Jeffries is a good target, but we have nothing Washington needs.