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GrandeDavid
06-28-2006, 10:11 AM
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/06/25/phillies_should_have_stopped_myerss_start/?page=2

By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Columnist | June 25, 2006

Here's a toast to the fans who filled Fenway Park yesterday afternoon. David Ortiz rewarded the throng with yet another walkoff wonder, but this crowd did itself proud long before Big Papi unloaded his latest game-winning thunderbolt.

We salute the 35,564 because they delivered a message that Major League Baseball and the shameful Philadelphia Phillies were too chicken to send. They booed an alleged wife-beater, Phillies starting pitcher Brett Myers.

Myers didn't have his good stuff yesterday. The Sox reached him for 3 runs on 7 hits and 4 walks in only 5 innings. They made him throw a whopping 115 pitches just to get through those five frames.

Myers was allowed to pitch in front of the sellout crowd and a national television audience just 36 hours after he was arrested for allegedly twice hitting his wife in the head with his fist as the two argued on a sidewalk near their Boston hotel. He is free on $200 bail, and after his performance yesterday, the most he could say about the sorry episode was, ``I'm sorry it had to get public. Of course, it's embarrassing . . . But my teammates have been great. They've been behind me 100 percent. That's all I've got."

What a league. What a country. Myers is Philadelphia's best pitcher. The Phils are trying to snap out of a losing spell and . . . well, you know, he's innocent until proven guilty and he has a right to make a living.

And so he was out there throwing cut fastballs and changeups on a misty, humid afternoon. Nice message for all the young folks watching at home and in the stands.

It's just plain wrong. It's an embarrassment to baseball and an embarrassment to the Phillies. At the very least, Myers would have been better off if he'd been sent home to start counseling with his wife. Or maybe someone in authority could have condemned domestic violence -- in the generic sense. Instead all we got was ``the game must go on" -- 36 hours after a man was arrested for beating his wife.

According to the Phillies press guide, Myers was an amateur boxer until he was 13 years old. Now, if we can believe the Boston police and a couple of eyewitnesses, he just hits women half his size.

The Phillies came to Boston Thursday night around 8:30 and set up shop in the Sheraton. After midnight, Myers was seen hitting his wife and dragging her by the hair near the hotel. Multiple 911 calls were made by witnesses.

In a telephone interview with the Globe's Suzanne Smalley, 26-year-old Courtney Knight said, ``He was dragging her by the hair and slapping her across the face. She was yelling, `I'm not going to let you do this to me anymore' . . . She's a real small girl. It was awful."

The 25-year-old Myers is 6 feet 4 inches and weighs 240 pounds. His wife is 5-4 and weighs 120.

``He had her on the ground," Knight said. ``He was trying to get her to go, and she was resisting. She curled up and sat on the ground."

Thirty-year-old Sly Egidio, who was with Knight, added, ``I watched him just haul off and smack her in the face . . . This was violent. This was wrong."

Boston police responded and found Kim Myers sitting on a sidewalk, crying. According to police, the left side of her face appeared swollen. She told police that her husband hit her in the face with his fist. Twice. Myers was arrested on charges of assault and battery and later released from District 4 station after his wife posted bail. Arraigned in Boston Municipal Court Friday, he pleaded not guilty, and his next court date is Aug. 4.

Wearing sunglasses on a rainy afternoon, Myers arrived at Fenway Friday. Rather than have reporters chasing Myers around the ballpark, the club arranged a brief group interview in the visitors dugout and the pitcher said, ``My lawyers have advised me not to comment on the issue." He also said he would be able to put the incident behind him and focus on baseball. ``Once you cross those lines, it's totally different," he said.

Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel and general manager Pat Gillick pledged their support (``not a big distraction" said Manuel) and the club issued a statement that read, in part, ``Out of respect for the privacy of both Kim and Brett Myers, the Phillies will not comment on the incident until the matter is resolved by the Court."

Patrick Courtney, a spokesman for Major League Baseball, said, ``We have to wait until the justice system runs its course before we can really comment on it."

Brett and Kim Myers have a 3-year-old daughter and a 1-year-old son. According to a Phillies publicist, Kim Myers was not at Fenway yesterday.

Myers was booed by the crowd when his image was first flashed on the big board while the lineups were introduced. He got it again each inning when he first popped out of the dugout. It took him a long time to come out for the start of some of those innings -- which only fueled the crowd's fury.

``It didn't surprise me at all," Manuel said, reiterating that there was never any discussion about Myers not taking his turn in the rotation. ``He was gonna pitch. I thought he could handle it. He did handle it. I thought he handled it pretty good. I'm sure he'll get booed at home."

When Myers came out to speak to the media, a fawning nitwit asked if events of these last few days made things ``difficult for you?"

Don't you love it? Let's ask the perp if all this controversy regarding his arrest has made it difficult for him to play baseball.

He said he did his best to focus on the game. Then he was asked if he knew why Boston fans were booing him with such gusto.

``Yeah."

Does he think it will happen elsewhere?

``Probably."

In Philadelphia?

``I don't know. We'll see."

Anything you want to say to the fans, Brett?

``I just want to give my all every time out there."

Any regrets about what happened?

``I'm not even supposed to talk about the issue."

That's when he came out with the ``sorry it had to get public" line.

Enough.

Some Red Sox fans no doubt remember Wil Cordero, who was arrested for hitting his wife with a telephone when the two lived in Cambridge in 1997. The Sox took Cordero out of the lineup immediately and he sat for eight games before he was reinstated. Cordero was released at the end of the '97 season.

Former Red Sox pitcher Wes Gardner was arrested for hitting his wife at the club's Baltimore hotel in August of 1989. Like Myers, Gardner was allowed to make his next start, two days later.

That was 17 years ago. We are supposed to be more enlightened today, more mindful of the seriousness of domestic violence.

Red Sox outfielder Gabe Kapler and his wife, Lisa, have been aggressive spokespersons for domestic violence awareness. Long after Ortiz circled the bases yesterday, Kapler sat in a near-empty clubhouse and said, ``It's important in the work that I do to present what is strong and what is weak and what perception is. To me, strong is being able to control yourself -- when things get difficult, not to lose self-control."

June 24, 2006: Good day for the Red Sox. Good day for the Fenway legions. Bad day for Major League Baseball and the Philadelphia Phillies.

Dan Shaughnessy is a Globe columnist. His e-mail address is [email protected].

GrandeDavid
06-28-2006, 10:13 AM
I put this in the Club Forum since the real issue is spouse abuse versus baseball. Wow, how horrible to be walking down the street and have to see this violent, lawless clown do what he did. I wish some would've pulverized him with a newspaper stand or something. Disgusting!

ShoogarBear
06-28-2006, 10:25 AM
I agree, but it's also a joke that Shaughnessy tried to give the Boston crowd props. If Myers had been a Boston pitcher that fucking hypocrite wouldn't have the guts to write what he did. How do I know? Because Shaughnessy was the beat writer for the Celtics when Robert Parish played for them and he was remarkably silent about the stuff he did.

Trainwreck2100
06-28-2006, 10:41 AM
If she learned to fold his clothes the right way there would be no problem

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 10:54 AM
Also, it was Wil Cordero.

I'm not saying he's a wife-beater or anything, but let's see that happen to the Sox' ace (or somebody that means as much to their team as Myers does to the Philies) and see if Danny Boy writes the same column.

I'm not saying the Phillies were right in doing what they did, I'm just saying that the Boston media wouldn't be so ready with their keyboards to call out the Sox management if it happened to a Schilling, Varitek or Manny.

mcornelio
06-28-2006, 10:55 AM
come on thats bullshit... he got in a argument with the wife and now hes the worst human being on earth or something.... this guy just doesnt know what to write an article about... im guessing that if he was allowed to play and free on 200 dollars bail it was just some bullshit not actual spuse abuse... this By Shaughnessy is full of shit

pache100
06-28-2006, 11:02 AM
come on thats bullshit... he got in a argument with the wife and now hes the worst human being on earth or something....

"Arguing" does not include violence. This man is a wife-beater. Domestic violence is against the law.

Trainwreck2100
06-28-2006, 11:03 AM
Twice. Myers was arrested on charges of assault and battery and later released from District 4 station after his wife posted bail. Arraigned in Boston Municipal Court Friday, he pleaded not guilty, and his next court date is Aug. 4.

yep, she really is through with him. :rolleyes

ShoogarBear
06-28-2006, 11:03 AM
Right, I have no problem with the criticisms of the Phillies. It's the implication that somehow Boston fans and medica are more enlightened about how they would deal with it that's a completed joke.

Das Texan
06-28-2006, 11:04 AM
Brett Myers should have been placed on the restricted list and not been allowed to make that start on Saturday.

The Phillies screwed that one up, but they have a tendancy for screwing things up anyway.

Ace or no ace, you have to at least give him the weekend off to go home and figure things out. If he was ready to go on Monday then fine, even though thats still probably not enough time.

I know he has now taken the rest of the first half off basically to do this. It should have been done right away. He would still be getting paid and its the right thing to do on all levels.

mcornelio
06-28-2006, 12:08 PM
"Arguing" does not include violence. This man is a wife-beater. Domestic violence is against the law.
yeah ur a fucking idiot... in the united states if u so much as yell during an argument with ur wife its fucking wife beating and spousal abuse... piece of shit if he was a wife beater why would she post bail? not only that but i bet if she would have kicked his ass or punched him in the face it wouldnt have been a big deal...

DirkAB
06-28-2006, 12:11 PM
What did she do?

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 12:13 PM
yeah ur a fucking idiot... in the united states if u so much as yell during an argument with ur wife its fucking wife beating and spousal abuse... piece of shit if he was a wife beater why would she post bail? not only that but i bet if she would have kicked his ass or punched him in the face it wouldnt have been a big deal...

That's pretty funny considering you might have your balls sliced off by a pissed off Dominican woman.



§ 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the
person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes
bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with
imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical
contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably
believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or
provocative.

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 12:15 PM
come on thats bullshit... he got in a argument with the wife and now hes the worst human being on earth or something.... this guy just doesnt know what to write an article about... im guessing that if he was allowed to play and free on 200 dollars bail it was just some bullshit not actual spuse abuse... this By Shaughnessy is full of shit

He didn't "get into an argument."

He physically assaulted his wife.

Let me just repeat that for you.

He physically assaulted his wife by punching, pulling her by her hair down a street and slapping her.

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 12:19 PM
Myers' wife told police she believed her husband hit her twice in the face with a closed fist. Witnesses told police Myers dragged his wife by the hair and slapped her across the face. Procopio said it is unclear if Myers punched his wife or slapped her, but he did strike her in the face.

Courtney Knight, 26, who witnessed the alleged attack, said in an interview today that Myers was out of control.

"It was disgusting," Knight said. "He was dragging her by the hair and slapping her across the face. She was yelling, 'I'm not going to let you do this to me anymore.' "

Knight said the 6-foot-4 ballplayer dwarfs his wife, who the police report said was 5 foot 4 and 120 pounds.

"She's a real small girl," Knight said. "It was awful."

Myers allegedly told Knight and her friends to leave and resisted when they tried to pull him off of his wife, prompting Knight to call police.

She said Myers was undeterred by the presence of her and her two friends.

"He had her on the ground. He was trying to get her to go, and she was resisting," Knight said. "She curled up and sat on the ground. He was pulling her, her shirt up was around her neck....He could have cared less that we were there."

The player was arguing with his wife because he wanted to return to their hotel and she did not, a woman who was with Myers and his wife told police.


Hey, mcornelio, let me drag you by your hair, slap your face, punch your face...oh, and by the way, spot me a foot and double your weight.

Yeah, I thought so....

Trainwreck2100
06-28-2006, 12:21 PM
yeah ur a fucking idiot... in the united states if u so much as yell during an argument with ur wife its fucking wife beating and spousal abuse... piece of shit if he was a wife beater why would she post bail? not only that but i bet if she would have kicked his ass or punched him in the face it wouldnt have been a big deal...

But that's how women are, they can hit you, but you can't hit them, either way you're a pussy.

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 12:22 PM
But that's how women are, they can hit you, but you can't hit them, either way you're a pussy.

I'm not going to sit here and say there's not a double standard when it comes to reverse spousal abuse, but this argument is about Brett Myers, a 6-foot-4 pussy.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
06-28-2006, 12:23 PM
Allegedly...

Can we at least wait until he is tried in a court of law before burying this guy?

Johnny_Blaze_47
06-28-2006, 12:25 PM
Allegedly...

Can we at least wait until he is tried in a court of law before burying this guy?

You're totally correct.

pseudofan
06-28-2006, 12:31 PM
I woulda kicked the crap outta that fool! Beelee dat!

mcornelio
06-28-2006, 12:39 PM
okay... i didnt know about the slapping and punching and pulling of hair... im sorry and i apologize i heard they where arguing and he lost it and hit her on the head.. again i was wrong i thought i was a bit less serious... so yeah this myers is a wife beating pussy.... i concur. if what jblaze says is true

pache100
06-28-2006, 01:35 PM
Allegedly...

Can we at least wait until he is tried in a court of law before burying this guy?

There were witnesses...many witnesses who saw the whole thing on a public street; if you want to slap your woman around and don't want anyone to know about it, do it at home, not on a frickin' public street - and good luck with that anyway. And it's not the first time he's done this. If it was his word against hers, and no one had seen it, I'd agree with you to wait until a trial. But...with eye-witnesses, not so much.

T Park
06-28-2006, 01:41 PM
Allegedly...

Can we at least wait until he is tried in a court of law before burying this guy?

give me a fuckin break.


There are tons of witnesses attesting to what happened.


The guy is lowlife scum and should be run out of the league.

tlongII
06-28-2006, 02:19 PM
Right, I have no problem with the criticisms of the Phillies. It's the implication that somehow Boston fans and medica are more enlightened about how they would deal with it that's a completed joke.


Agreed. I lived in Boston in 83-84 during the Celtics' heyday and the fans and media were insufferable.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-28-2006, 02:25 PM
Well if the Red Sox faithful's boos are such a quality moral barometer this can only mean one thing:

Derek Jeter is a child molester, and A-Rod probably has something to do with what's happening in Darfur.

2Blonde
06-28-2006, 02:31 PM
okay... i didnt know about the slapping and punching and pulling of hair... im sorry and i apologize i heard they where arguing and he lost it and hit her on the head.. again i was wrong i thought i was a bit less serious... so yeah this myers is a wife beating pussy.... i concur. if what jblaze says is trueSo if I understand you correctly... it would not be abuse, in your opinion, if he was just arguing and he lost it and hit her on the head.. ???? Also does it matter to you if she was hit using and open palm or a closed fist? Just curious?


Myers' wife told police she believed her husband hit her twice in the face with a closed fist. Witnesses told police Myers dragged his wife by the hair and slapped her across the face. Procopio said it is unclear if Myers punched his wife or slapped her, but he did strike her in the face.

j-6
06-28-2006, 02:35 PM
He's making 3.3 million this season. Couldn't he have just hired Jeff Gillooly and stayed out of all this?

DirkAB
06-28-2006, 02:49 PM
He's making 3.3 million this season. Couldn't he have just hired Jeff Gillooly and stayed out of all this?


But Gillooly would sing like a bird under the lights.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-28-2006, 02:51 PM
But Gillooly would sing like a bird under the lights.

Agreed, he already dropped the ball on that Kerrigan business. He got busted and failed to take the target out of commission. I say hire the Philly Phanatic. No one ever suspects the large fuzzy mascot.

T Park
06-28-2006, 03:03 PM
whos the chick with the cheese poofs? :wtf

mcornelio
06-28-2006, 03:43 PM
So if I understand you correctly... it would not be abuse, in your opinion, if he was just arguing and he lost it and hit her on the head.. ???? Also does it matter to you if she was hit using and open palm or a closed fist? Just curious?

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if it was the first time it happened and he just lost control and slapped her it would be assault and not spousal abuse... i mean its just as fucked up but people act like just because someone slaps a woman hes the lowest lowlife scum of the earth... i know that im going to get flamed worse than i got flamed im my other advice thread but sometimes women provoke you so u lose it... im not sayig thats the case and i personally havent ever hit a girl well exept my sister, ive beat the shit out of her plenty of times in straight up fights but still... u guys act like just because a guy hits a girl he deserves the chair... we dont know what happened sometimes.. again i say this not in this specific case but in a general sense that sometimes the guy whos supposibly a spousal abuser isnt always at 100 fault... ive see chicks who would push and hit guys and tell them hit me u asshole hit me i know u want to you pussy and even though the guys is trying to get out the door or turn around she would punch him or slap him so he loses it.

So there now u can flame me all you want and say im a idiot for thinking like i do. some women are bitches..

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
06-28-2006, 04:13 PM
There were witnesses...many witnesses who saw the whole thing on a public street; if you want to slap your woman around and don't want anyone to know about it, do it at home, not on a frickin' public street - and good luck with that anyway. And it's not the first time he's done this. If it was his word against hers, and no one had seen it, I'd agree with you to wait until a trial. But...with eye-witnesses, not so much.

Well then it should be a quick trial. Still doesn't mean the guy should be buried before declared guilty.

Why the rush in our society to tear people, especially those in the spotlight, down?

rayray2k8
06-28-2006, 04:59 PM
If she learned to fold his clothes the right way there would be no problem
:jack:lol

T Park
06-28-2006, 05:51 PM
Why the rush in our society to tear people, especially those in the spotlight, down?

awww poor Brett Meyers.

Feel sorry for the wife beating coward.

poooor poor baby.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
06-28-2006, 05:56 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.

GrandeDavid
06-28-2006, 07:08 PM
rayray2K8, your Cuban/Dirk thing is utterly hysterical! :lmao

Johnny_Blaze_47
08-18-2006, 09:17 AM
From today's city desk:

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/baseball/even-boxers-are-like-this-dudes-too-violent-195108.php

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15302347.htm

Did he spar with his wife in the ring?

Mixability
08-18-2006, 10:11 AM
whos the chick with the cheese poofs? :wtf

:lmao

I was wondering when you'd ask about it. That's like your wildest fantasy, huh?

ObiwanGinobili
08-18-2006, 10:16 AM
he was arrested for allegedly twice hitting his wife in the head with his fist as the two argued on a sidewalk near their Boston hotel. He is free on $200 bail, and after his performance yesterday, the most he could say about the sorry episode was, ``I'm sorry it had to get public. Of course, it's embarrassing . . . But my teammates have been great. They've been behind me 100 percent. That's all I've got."


that makes me want to puke. WHAT THE FUCK?????

ObiwanGinobili
08-18-2006, 10:19 AM
So basically this shit head is sorry that he didn't wait untill he was in privete to beat his wife.... what a fucking retard.

"sorry it got public" ???? Arg!! what a fucking cunt.

Johnny_Blaze_47
10-05-2006, 03:19 PM
After wife's request, charges dropped vs. Phils' Myers
Associated Press

Update: ESPN

BOSTON -- An abuse charge against Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Brett Myers was dismissed Thursday after his wife said she did not want her husband prosecuted for hitting her in the face during an argument near Fenway Park.

Boston Municipal Judge Raymond Dougan accepted as fact that Myers struck his wife on June 23 but dismissed the charge -- despite the objection of prosecutors -- after Kim Myers agreed to an "accord of satisfaction" showing she did not want the charge pursued.

"There's no violence in our family. That night in Boston we had both been drinking," Kim Myers told the judge. "I was not hurt. I was not injured."

Authorities say the two were arguing when Brett Myers struck his wife. One witness told investigators he pulled her hair.

Police responded to a 911 call and found Myers' wife crying and with a swollen face, prosecutors said. Officers found Myers nearby and arrested him. The 6-foot-4, 240-pound Myers was booked by Boston police, and his wife posted his $200 bail.

"There appears to be no coercion or pressure that resulted in this being filed," Dougan said of the accord, though he acknowledged it's hard to identify coercion in domestic violence cases.

The judge noted the couple has been in marriage counseling since shortly after the fight.

Assistant District Attorney Susan Terrey had wanted Myers to plead guilty to assault, serve two years of probation, enter a program for spousal abusers and undergo alcohol abuse evaluation.

Kim Myers said the counseling has helped the couple, who have two children, and she denied other physical abuse.

"This is not something that happens on a daily basis," she said. "Or ever."

Myers, a right-hander and ace of the Phillies staff, finished the regular season 12-7 with a 3.91 ERA. He was treated as a celebrity by court officers, who shook his hand and patted him on the back. One told him, "Good luck, it will be all right," while another said, "Nice seeing you again."

Myers did not speak at the hearing and the couple refused comment afterward.