RUMOR:scola's rights to cavs for gibson

[djohn14]

Take it for what it's worth,but I read on the internet this morning that the Cavs are thinking about an offer from San Antonio that would have them drafting Daniel Gibson[Texas Longhorns]and sending him here for Scola's rights.Once again take it for what it's worth.

[MoSpur]

Wow. That would be pretty good. Gibson has a way to go doesn't he???

[WalterBenitez]

What kind of creature is that Daniel ... is someone that could help us thinkinf in Western Conference needs?

[djohn14]

Like I said it's just a rumor,but if it happens we won't have to wait 10 years for him to get here.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm not enamored with Gibson's handle at all, and I think he makes some bad decisions with the basketball. I also don't know that he has the same kind of range that Beno does on his jumper. But he's bigger and stronger than Beno, and likely more confident than Beno. And, in the end, I guess if you could manage a first rounder who fills a need from Scola's rights, you'd have done some good, so that would be a positive.

[MoSpur]

He is a good shooter from what I saw. He is a pretty good defender and seems to be a very good guy. I wouldn't mind that pick. He could very well step in and be the primary backup to Tony.

[Quadzilla99]

I'd rather trade him for a vet that way we know what we are getting more or less. Draft picks even for the best team are risky and unproven.

[FromWayDowntown]

At the very least, Gibson would certainly start out as a fan favorite.

[Mr. Body]

I think I know where you found that rumor.

Anyway, Gibson is a mess and not worth Luis Scola's rights.

[djohn14]

Gibson could be great or a bust,but it's worth a shot.

[FromWayDowntown]

As an aside, if you do this deal, I'd think that would end the Speedy Claxton courtship unless you had plans to ship Gibson out later this summer as part of another deal. That would be some rather complex manuevering, though.

[djohn14]

If you do can u post a link because I can't find it now.

[degenerate_gambler]

I dont know about this...

Any mock draft that I've seen, I haven't found that had Gibson going any higher than mid second round.

[Mr. Body]

Gibson is a big, big stretch even for the late first round.

This is Danny Ferry and R.C. Buford helping each other out with a smokescreen. All it is.

[Solid D]

I hope not. Gibson isn't able to effectively run a team as a PG at the NBA level. He wasn't able to do it consistently in the Big 12 either. That's why Rick Barnes switched him to off-guard after the Duke game. He doesn't handle ball-pressure well and loses his court vision and focus.

[djohn14]

Gibson isn't that high of a pick but beno can't be Tony's back-up.The Spurs need help with Tony on the bench.

[FromWayDowntown]

Gibson isn't that high of a pick but beno can't be Tony's back-up.The Spurs need help with Tony on the bench.

I think the concern that some have is that Gibson has many of the same problems that Beno has, but isn't nearly as good a passer or shooter. I'm not sure that's the solution to the problem.

[SPARKY]

Let's see...Spurs and Cavs rumored to have a deal at #25 for Scola's rights. Undoubtedly this helps the Spurs try to snag a higher pick for Scola.

[Solid D]

I think the concern that some have is that Gibson has many of the same problems that Beno has, but isn't nearly as good a passer or shooter. I'm not sure that's the solution to the problem.

Understatement, but true, FWD.

Ref: Dockery's mockery (Duke game). Paulino and Abrams ran the point the 2nd half of the season last year.

[Solid D]

Let's see...Spurs and Cavs rumored to have a deal at #25 for Scola's rights. Undoubtedly this helps the Spurs try to snag a higher pick for Scola.

What? Cool, the Spurs trading Scola twice what a great idea!

[baseline bum]

RC's always been amazing in the draft, but this seems crazy. Scola would be great on Cleveland though, especially considering they wouldn't have to overpay that pos Drew Gooden.

[wolf754life]

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=57

[dbestpro]

Might as well let Scola go free agent as to draft Gibson. Total slug. Can't even wear Beno's sneakers.

[infinite styles]

Gibson can't handle on the ball pressure by another good PG. The Duke game proved that and when he was matched against other good guards he became really indecisive and unfocused. I just don't trust him.

[drpill]

It'd be nice at least to have someone who can stay in front of Jason Terry, Devin Harris, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Beno is all but useless against those guys.

[SPARKY]

What? Cool, the Spurs trading Scola twice what a great idea!

Um, no. I was referring to the rumor.

[Solid D]

Ah, okay. Sarcasm.

[Mr. Body]

If anything, the Spurs are trading him for a higher pick, and are using this as a screen both for that trade and for who they're really looking at.

[SPARKY]

Ah, okay. Sarcasm.

No. It makes sense to let out that you have a lower pick offer for Scola's rights if you want to encourage a team with a higher pick to make an offer.

[drpill]

If anything, the Spurs are trading him for a higher pick, and are using this as a screen both for that trade and for who they're really looking at.

Sounds likely. Or, they could just be looking for a coachable backup point guard who can shoot and play defense...

[Fabbs]

To have waited this long only to "settle" is lame.
To me, unless it's a great trade in favor of the Spurs, make Tau and Scola sit another year when the buyout will be zero. Would also up his tradeability.

Risk if he gets hurt, otherwise at this late point see no downside.

[Solid D]

Now, I see your what you meant SPARKY. Sorry about that.

[Darkwaters]

Couldn't they trade Scola for the 25 pick and take their small forward of the future here? It's doubtful that Thabo Sefalsha falls nearly that far, but James White should still be on the board.

[Quadzilla99]

^^This year's draft is supposed to be the weakest in years. Next year is supposed to be a great draft.

[baseline bum]

To have waited this long only to "settle" is lame.
To me, unless it's a great trade in favor of the Spurs, make Tau and Scola sit another year when the buyout will be zero. Would also up his tradeability.

Risk if he gets hurt, otherwise at this late point see no downside.

I agree... pick #25 for a big who can score in the post, who led gold-medal winning Argentina in scoring in the Olympics? I don't like to worry about the future when Duncan's in his prime now, but this sounds ridiculous.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i rather trade scola for a 2nd round pick in the 07 draft

[SPARKY]

Oberto looked like a NBA player in the Olympics.

[spvrs]

This is the same guy who said his uncle heard that Scola was signing from a radio station in Houston... did he tell you this too?





You might not believe me because I dont have a link,and I understand.Anyways,my uncle is a cop in Houston and he said on some sports or news channel he heard the Spurs were close to signing Scola and agreed in principle to a multi-year deal with Javtokas.They are reportedly also going to wave Eric Williams.

[ChumpDumper]

link?

[Fabbs]

Oberto looked like a NBA player in the Olympics.

He looked like an NBA player guarding Dirk in the playoffs also. Scola is definitely supposed to be better, so after waiting this many years why dump the whole process. He is only 24, was league MVP and his team made the Finals, even if they did get worked in the Finals.

Might as well wait one more year unless a trade now truly benefits the Spurs.

[atxrocker]

gibson is clutch and can develop in the the nba. i think he has lots of upside. that said, not sure this is a good move if it happens.

[Budkin]

This would be a horrible, horrible move. Gibson is not NBA ready.

[Das Texan]

I believe the trade part to the Cavs.


I'm not sure I fully believe the taking of Daniel Gibson part, if that part is true I hope Pop has a backup player and then hope Gibson is gone when the Cavs pick. *prays*

[T Park]

He looked like an NBA player guarding Dirk in the playoffs also. Scola is definitely supposed to be better, so after waiting this many years why dump the whole process. He is only 24, was league MVP and his team made the Finals, even if they did get worked in the Finals.



well first off hes 26.

Second of all, hes an undersized power forward, who rebounds like shit.


No thanks, Ive said since the 10 million dollar buyout last year to trade this stooge's rights.

[dbestpro]

Gibson is a at best a bench guard (probably NBDL) who is out of the league in 2-3 years. Very bad year for point guards in draft.

[2centsworth]

Gibson is going to be available when the spurs pick in the 2nd round so why would they need to trade for him?

[TDMVPDPOY]

ive read sumwhere that hughs can be traded also......only players i think spurs wants from cavs is probaly hughs or lebron, but i wouldnt touch hughs contract

[T Park]

Id much rather stand pat at 59 and get Kyle Lowry :lol

[Fabbs]

well first off hes 26.
Second of all, hes an undersized power forward, who rebounds like shit.

The plan all along was for him to be a 3, right? At 6'9" he could do fine.
Esp since Tim was moved to the 4, he could provide some O from the 3. Oh right, small ball. Yeah who is our center now?

I would think he could board just as well as Fins Fabs and Bob Horry.

[dbestpro]

Cav's have interest in trading Ilgauskas and sign and trade Gooden. They need a top level point guard. They already have too many power forwards (more than the Spurs). Varejo, Marhsall, Gooden.

[Ballcox]

Having watched Gibson play alomost every game he played in college, I don't really have much faith in him as a PG at the NBA level. Same as some earlier posters on this topic, he has difficulty handling the ball against pressure and his outside shot can get very streaky. Problem he had in college is that when the outside J wasn't working, he wouldn't change tactics much, would keep shooting instead of trying to drive and dish, create his own shot, etc. I definitely don't think he would be an adequate backup PG at the NBA level, probably better at the 2 spot, but then again he's undersized for that position as well. Spurs should look somewhere else.

[FromWayDowntown]

Frankly, that the deal is being reported gives me pretty much absolute faith that it won't happen. It would be decidedly un-Spurslike.

In addition, from comments that Pop has made in the past, I can't really see the Spurs being all that interested in a low first rounder who has gone through the pimping process that is American youth basketball.

[Mr. Body]

FWD, you're getting it. This rumor is not to be believed.

[timvp]

Gibson sucks. On top of that, he'd be a horrible fit on the Spurs. If you are looking for a UT player, I'd rather have PJ Tucker ... and that's not saying a whole lot.

Scola for the 25th pick would be okay but there's no way in hell I draft Gibson.

[clubalien]

not sure why we need this dude when in our mock draft we gto lowry which was a point guard too

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Scola is only 26, we should keep him

[Dingle Barry]

I am a huge Longhorn fan.

Gibson is shit. He will never make it in the league in my estimation. Streaky long ball and that is about it.
Romain Sato >>>>>> Dan Gibson

[Hardcor]

My best guess is that they are trying to get to at least 25. 1. They are targeting not Gibson but White and 2. The Lakers at #26 like White.

They would have to move in front of the Lakers to get White but at the same time not tip off the Lakers as to who they are looking at. Its all a high stakes game of poker.

[Russ]

My best guess is that they are trying to get to at least 25. 1. They are targeting not Gibson but White and 2. The Lakers at #26 like White.

They would have to move in front of the Lakers to get White but at the same time not tip off the Lakers as to who they are looking at. Its all a high stakes game of poker.

Bingo -- White is the guy at 25!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Gibson would suck, trust me

his defense is slightly underrated, but he is just not a point guard

he'd have to make a kirk heinrich-esque turnaround to succeed on any team at the nba level

[infinite styles]

My best guess is that they are trying to get to at least 25. 1. They are targeting not Gibson but White and 2. The Lakers at #26 like White.

They would have to move in front of the Lakers to get White but at the same time not tip off the Lakers as to who they are looking at. Its all a high stakes game of poker.

White is the man at 25. That would be huge to get him. And much much better than drafting a shaky PG.

[GrandeDavid]

I would hold Scola until after next season if they cannot really get some good value for him. I think the Spurs will really need Scola after next season.

[exstatic]

Thank God this was bogus.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Thank God this was bogus.


c/s

[exstatic]

c/s? I guess my "internet" needs a refresher course.

[gospursgojas]

So Cavs DO draft Gibson

Interesting

[Kori Ellis]

Interesting.

[loveforthegame]

It's interesting but would we possibly be giving up for him?

[gospursgojas]

Read the Title ^^^^^


The Rights to Scola

[ChumpDumper]

We would be totally boned if all we got was Gibson for Scola.

[NorCal510]

Read the Title ^^^^^


The Rights to Scola


so does this mean that it still can happen since its not july yet and thats when the trading starts?

[loveforthegame]

I know the original rumor was involving Scola but I thought he was good enough for a 1st round pick. Surely we wouldn't give him up for a 2nd rounder.

[IcemanCometh]

you guys are pretty funny when you try to play expert