Time for me to quit the barpoker scene

[kris]

2nd hand smoke findings reinforced (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INVOLUNTARY_SMOKING?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=HEALTH&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

My conscious has been telling me to stop going, so I already knew better, but when this hit me in the face today, I knew it was a sign.

I have a lot of fun playing poker, but it's not worth it.

[T Park]

the govt said it, so its obviously true......

[Das Texan]

play in non smoke filled environments.

[kris]

play in non smoke filled environments.


Almost all of the commercial sponsors are smoke filled environments.

barpoker, lovemypoker, nppl - smoke, smoke, smoke with an exception here or there.

I'll still play poker at home games.

[kris]

the govt said it, so its obviously true......


What does that even mean?

[katyon6th]

I wanna play poker.

[angel_luv]

I feel for you Kris. I am allergic to cigarette smoke and will get bad headaches if I am in a room full of it.

I can handle one or two smokers ok though, especially if they are outside.

[Das Texan]

Almost all of the commercial sponsors are smoke filled environments.

barpoker, lovemypoker, nppl - smoke, smoke, smoke with an exception here or there.

I'll still play poker at home games.


start playing in casinos.

[kris]

start playing in casinos.


Let me know of some local San Antonio casinos I can choose from any night of the week.

I just said I was quitting the barpoker scene. I didn't say I was giving up poker because I couldn't find another place to play.

[kris]

I wanna play poker.


I as well. I need to keep upping my experience level.

[Das Texan]

Let me know of some local San Antonio casinos I can choose from any night of the week.

I just said I was quitting the barpoker scene. I didn't say I was giving up poker because I couldn't find another place to play.


gotta fuck with you.


i need to find some lost indian tribe and get land in retribution and have them open a casino.


didnt they do a story a year or so ago on one of the indian tribes that was in texas and thought to be lost but really still exist? Was it the Coahulticans?

Anything ever happen with their plight to get recognized?

[SpursWoman]

I'm like 1/8th Osage, do you think that might get me a few square feet? :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Penn & Teller did a show on secondhand smoke being a killer on their Showtime series "Bullshit." Very telling...

Be scared, buy water and run home to duct tape the windows closed. Oh, that was the terrosist attack strategy. My bad...

[kris]

I don't know if you're mocking me or not, but the dangers of second hand smoke are well documented and entirely real. If you're not going to buy into the Surgeon General's reports, just think, "How healthy can it be to sit in a room filled with smoke for 3 hours?"

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Not mocking you at all.

The evidence is weak at best linking secondhand smoke and those illnesses. Don't you think that it's a little surprising that still used the 1993 EPA report as the backbone of their findings? This is nothing more than a study of a study of a study.

[MannyIsGod]

Not smelling like smoke is the thing I like best about not going to bars. I could have sworn Love My Poker did some smoke free things but I could be wrong.

[T Park]

What does that even mean?

kickbacks

payments

favors


come on...... connect the dots.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

World Health Organization did a study as well:


CONCLUSIONS: Our results indicate no association between childhood exposure to ETS and lung cancer risk. We did find weak evidence of a dose-response relationship between risk of lung cancer and exposure to spousal and workplace ETS. There was no detectable risk after cessation of exposure.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9776409&dopt=Abstract

You can find a study to say whatever you desire...

If the evidence was as clear cut as the SG suggests, don't you think they'd all be on the same page or at least be able to agree on the standards used in their studies?

[ShoogarBear]

Kickbacks from those corporations making money hand over fist from non-smoking laws, crushing mom-and-pop operations like Phillip Morris and RJR.

[T Park]

If cigarettes were as deadly as they said they are.

They would've been outlawed along with other narcotics...

[T Park]

Kickbacks from those corporations making money hand over fist from non-smoking laws, crushing mom-and-pop operations like Phillip Morris and RJR.



Yeah cause, no one hates the "big corporations"

First it was big tobacco.

Right now its big oil.


What next,

big fast food?


More and more intrusion.

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao, you still haven't said where the money for all those kickbacks and payoffs are coming from. The AMA?

And so let me get this straight: You don't believe cigarettes are deadly because they're not illegal. But marijuana must be deadly, because it is illegal?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Smoking a joint is equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes. Ah, the good ole days...

I can't be the only one to ever hear this in HS/college. I wonder if they ever did a study on that.

[SpursWoman]

If cigarettes were as deadly as they said they are.

They would've been outlawed along with other narcotics...


Cigarettes are every bit as deadly as they say they are.

[T Park]

you still haven't said where the money for all those kickbacks and payoffs are coming from

Sure let me go ask the surgeon general and ask him.

Cause politicians come right out and say who they get paid off by.



Cigarettes are every bit as deadly as they say they are.

Well there have been studies and tests.....

[SpursWoman]

I don't think I understand your argument...

Do think the politicians are getting paid by tobacco manufacturers to say that their very own product is deadly and to pretty much outlaw it everywhere? When they've already lost billions in lawsuits...because people have gotten sick and/or died from using it?

Or do you think the politicians are getting paid by the insurance companies and medical associations to say that tobacco smoke is dangerous so they don't have to payout anymore claims on cancer, emphysema and a million other health problems directly linked to tobacco use?

[MannyIsGod]

You probably don't want to argue with SW on this subject numb nuts. She has a bit more experience than studies.

[TheTruth]

Does TPark ever know what he is talking about? Have you had a family member die from Lung Cancer?

[SpursWoman]

I wasn't even trying to be argumentative .... there is no question in my mind that tobacco is an addicting, deadly drug. As a matter of fact, I really wish they would completely make it illegal. Maybe then my insurance might cover inpatient treatment to break the habit like they do with heroin, which is just as addicting and deadly.

I just don't see who he thinks is paying off who, and what benefit they derive from doing so.

[scott]

Excuse T Park, he is inflicted with Foot in Mouth disease.

[ShoogarBear]

So it's the Surgeon General who's getting paid off by Evil Somebodies to attack those valient Captains of the Tobacco Industry? Interesting. That probably explains the whole fluoride thing, too.

[TheTruth]

Wait, is it the surgen general that is tapping my phones? I'm confused.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So it's the Surgeon General who's getting paid off by Evil Somebodies to attack those valient Captains of the Tobacco Industry? Interesting. That probably explains the whole fluoride thing, too.

Blame this guy:

http://www.loonietimes.com/gallery/Morgan-%20Crest.jpg