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Nbadan
06-28-2006, 04:49 PM
When is cut and run not cut and run?

Why label one plan as "cut and run" but not the other?


The simple answer is that conservatives are employing a double standard. ... Read the quotes from most conservative Republicans, and you won't find much information on substantive differences between the plans. Instead, you'll hear partisan politics.

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Furthermore, McConnell said that Republican lawmakers were aware of Casey's plan before voting against the Levin-Reed proposal. In other words, even though Republicans knew a similar plan was being hatched by Gen. Casey, they nonetheless took the partisan and immature route -- substituting name-calling for reasonable debate.

This also apparently confirms speculation from a few days ago as correct -- that Vice President Cheney also knew about Casey's gameplan when he told CNN's John King that the Democrats' plans for troop redeployment were "the worst possible thing we could do."

Jabbs (http://jabbs.blogspot.com/2006/06/did-cheney-know-of-caseys-redeployment.html)

Apparently, when it's a Republican proposal.

Who's playing politics with the war again?

boutons_
06-28-2006, 07:28 PM
The General Casey has

1) a withdrawal planned for just before the 2006 elections.

2) And another withdrawal just before the 2007 state of the Union address.

What a fucking coincidence!! The Repug Iraq was is a purely party political war intended to keep the Repugs in office, eg, win the 2004 election for dubya. That's why before the invasion, the Repugs were saying

1) war was the ONLY option and
2) the war had to be immediately started

.... it all had to do with the 2003 prez campaign. If it really was a fast cakewalk, dubya's a hero, wins. If it got fucked up, the US voters wouldn't change prez in the middle of a war. Pure, unmitigated domestic politics, using US military lives as pawns.

Ocotillo
06-28-2006, 07:36 PM
Bush is said to not care about the polls. This guy doesn't pick his tie in the morning without looking at how it will impact him in the polls. The gall of anyone who criticized the Big Dawg for watching the polls.

xrayzebra
06-28-2006, 09:08 PM
But, but, but, we need a plan. Except the dimm-o-craps have no plan. Just
Cut-and-run. Just like Viet Nam.

Ocotillo
06-28-2006, 09:32 PM
But, but, but, we need a plan. Except the dimm-o-craps have no plan. Just
Cut-and-run. Just like Viet Nam.

Uh, actually that would be General Casey's plan.

fyatuk
06-28-2006, 11:32 PM
Uh, actually that would be General Casey's plan.

Well, it depends on the leves of withdrawal we're talking about, and I'm not too informed on either plan, I can't comment on that.

But I sure would have thrown a hissy fit if the Congress tried telling the president how to deploy troops. It's one thing if the Senate confirms a treaty with the Iraqi government on troop withdrawals, but the Congress has no business legislating troop deployments.

George Gervin's Afro
06-29-2006, 07:15 AM
we must all remember that ONLY Democrats play politics with the war on terror.. The GOP knew of Casey's proposals to cut down the troop levels but in order to score political points they provided a useless vote in both houses.. remember it's only the democrats.. :lol