Report: Peja to Hornets, Radmanovic to Lakers

[Kori Ellis]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2507013

Stojakovic, Radmanovic look to be on moveBy Marc Stein
ESPN.com


It appears that the first two shocks in NBA free agency will emanate from Serbia.

Indiana forward Peja Stojakovic, widely considered a lock to re-sign with the Pacers, is on the verge of a jump to the upstart New Orleans Hornets, ESPN.com has learned. NBA front-office sources indicate that the Hornets are offering Stojakovic a five-year deal in the $60-million range.

NBA front-office sources also tell ESPN.com that the Los Angeles Lakers are close to swiping a player from their co-tenants in the Staples Center, but it's not Clippers guard Sam Cassell. The Lakers, sources said, were inching closer Saturday night to a verbal agreement with Clippers sharpshooter Vladimir Radmanovic on a five-year deal starting at the $5 million mid-level exception and worth in excess of $30 million.

The Hornets have never been known as offseason spenders with George Shinn in charge, but the owner has hinted recently that he was chasing "a big-name free agent," and his club does possess two crucial advantages in their bid to tempt Stojakovic away from the Pacers -- more than $15 million in available salary-cap space and a coach who knows the player well. Byron Scott, who received a three-year contract extension from the Hornets earlier this week, played against Stojakovic in Greece before the 29-year-old made the jump to the NBA in 1999 and later worked with him in Sacramento as a Kings assistant coach.

The Lakers' cause is also undoubtedly helped by a Serbian connection in attempting to convince Radmanovic to switch locker rooms at Staples. Serbian legend Vlade Divac, a former national-team colleague of Stojakovic and Radmanovic and now a member of the Lakers' front office, can explain to Radmanovic better than anyone how badly they need a dependable shooter to help space the floor for Kobe Bryant.

Divac has been hoping to bring Stojakovic to the Lakers ever since leaving Sacramento in the summer of 2004, but that would require a complicated sign-and-trade arrangement because L.A. can't offer more than the $5 million mid-level exception. Radmanovic, like Stojakovic a 6-foot-10 perimeter specialist, is a more realistic mid-level target after averaging 10.7 points (on 41.8-percent shooting from 3-point range) and 5.7 rebounds in 30 games with the Clippers.

The Clips, craving a big forward who could stretch the floor for Elton Brand, dealt Chris Wilcox to Seattle on Feb. 14 for Radmanovic. The Clippers, according to NBA front-office sources, are now expected to reach a verbal agreement with Phoenix Suns forward Tim Thomas to replace Radmanovic.

Re-signing Cassell and Radmanovic were the Clippers' top two offseason priorities and Cassell, in an ESPNews appearance Saturday, indicated that the Clips still have the inside track on retaining the 36-year-old point guard.

"It's looking pretty good for them," said Cassell, who recently hired high-powered NBA agent David Falk to secure him a two-year deal.

Stojakovic averaged 19.5 points and 6.2 rebounds in 40 games with Indiana after the Kings sent him to the Pacers on Jan. 25 in exchange for the mercurial Ron Artest. But a knee problem limited him to just two games in the Pacers' six-game, first-round series with New Jersey and his departure would leave Indiana without anything to show for the Artest trade.

NBA signings and trades can't advance past the stage of verbal agreement until July 12.

[Kori Ellis]

This means the Hornets probably don't want/need Brent Barry.

[Mr. Body]

Why? Peja handles the ball worth shit. I understand the shooting, tho.

[Big P]

Scott said he would be looking for 2 or 3 shooters at the SG & SF positions...Peja takes care of the SF spot...they could still use someone like Brent.

[timvp]

Thank you God. If the Spurs had signed Radman I would have become a Cavs fan.

[Kori Ellis]

Scott said he would be looking for 2 or 3 shooters at the SG & SF positions...Peja takes care of the SF spot...they could still use someone like Brent.


I was just going off this. To me, Peja would satisfy their need for a veteran shooter. I didn't read anywhere that Scott wants 2 or 3 shooters. Maybe I missed it.


Scott said Claxton and Butler are priorities to be re-signed, and the team also plans to pursue signing a veteran shooter who can play small forward or shooting guard.

[Mr. Body]

Peja also doesn't satisfy the need for veteran locker-room leadership.

[Quadzilla99]

Wow. That's surprising. I thought Peja was a lock to stay in Indiana.

[timvp]

PG - Paul
SG - Barry
SF - Peja
PF - West
C - Armstrong/Brown/Simmons

Barry still fits but doesn't make as much sense as before. Peja and Barry would give he Hornets a horrible defensive SG/SF rotation. But damn, if they got Barry they could challenge for a top four seed next year.

[shaggy17]

This means the Hornets probably don't want/need Brent Barry.
How do you know that?? I know you really dont want JR Smith but that doesnt mean shit on that deal being dead. They said they wanted 2-3 shooters and having another shooter or 2 on the bench is also what they appear to be looking for.

[Kori Ellis]

How do you know that?? I know you really dont want JR Smith but that doesnt mean shit on that deal being dead. They said they wanted 2-3 shooters and having another shooter or 2 on the bench is also what they appear to be looking for.

I don't know that for sure, that's why I said "PROBABLY". I was stating an opinion based on the quote from the paper in my last post. :rolleyes

Where did they say they needed 2-3 shooters? I missed that.

[Quadzilla99]

^^I agree Barry to NO is done. It's officially time to move on.

[shaggy17]

I don't know that for sure. I was stating an opinion. :rolleyes

Where did they say they needed 2-3 shooters? I missed that.

:lol I know you were didnt mean it in that kind of tone, my bad. I just hate being patient with our front office and I want us to make our moves already.

[timvp]

I think Barry for JR Smith won't happen. Word is the Spurs were shopping Barry around the league during the draft. If the JR Smith trade was still alive, there's no reason that trade wouldn't be done by now.

One of the two teams backed off and it's looking more and more like it's dead.

[Kori Ellis]

The Hornets said they are in trade talks for two different trades. So it might not be dead, I just think if they wanted one veteran shooter, they got it in Peja. I didn't read that they wanted 2 or 3. But I don't read every newspaper report that exists. That's why I asked if I missed it.

[furry_spurry]

When sources are front office people and not with the player, anything can happen.

[furry_spurry]

The Clippers, according to NBA front-office sources, are now expected to reach a verbal agreement with Phoenix Suns forward Tim Thomas to replace Radmanovic.

Did people scan over this news??

[Mr. Body]

The Barry/Smith trade may still be on, but perhaps is for Speedy as well - and he needs to be on-board for the S&T, so they're working out details.

Or not. A guy can dream.

[Kori Ellis]

LA Times confirms Radmanovic to Lakers


Radmanovic signs with Lakers; Cassell on the way out as Clippers sign Suns' Thomas

By Mike Bresnahan and Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
4:13 PM PDT, July 1, 2006


The Los Angeles Lakers moved quickly Saturday on the first day of free agency, addressing their need for outside shooting by snatching away a piece from their cross-town rival by agreeing to terms with three-point specialist Vladimir Radmanovic.

The Los Angeles Clippers also reacted quickly after Radmanovic and point guard Sam Cassell apparently reneged on agreements to stay with them, reaching terms with sharp-shooting forward Tim Thomas early Saturday.

Clippers Coach Mike Dunleavy and the representatives of Thomas, a 6-foot-10 forward who revived his career with Phoenix late last season, completed a four-year, $24-million deal Saturday at about 12:30 a.m. The move capped a dizzying three-hour period in which the Clippers were informed Cassell and Radmanovic accepted and then rejected multi-year offers, sources said.

Radmanovic agreed Saturday to a five-year, $31-million contract with the Lakers, the same package the Clippers offered.

"At the conclusion of the moratorium period, the Lakers intend to enter into a contract with Vladimir Radmanovic," Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak said.

Radmanovic, who stretches defenses by luring post players away from the basket with his outside shot, has career averages of 10.1 points, 5.4 rebounds and 38.1% shooting from three-point range.

Thomas, a nine-year veteran, who makes his off-season home in Los Angeles, played a key role in the Suns' run to the Western Conference finals. Thomas averaged 14.7 points, 6.1 rebounds and made 37.8% of his three-pointers as Phoenix defeated the Clippers in the semifinals.

Free agents cannot officially sign contracts until July 12.

[Kori Ellis]

The Barry/Smith trade may still be on, but perhaps is for Speedy as well - and he needs to be on-board for the S&T, so they're working out details.

Or not. A guy can dream.


Claxton, who becomes an unrestricted free agent today, has instructed his agent, Bill Duffy, to start negotiations with the Hornets to determine their interest before pursuing other offers. Teams cannot begin signing free agents until July 12.

"I'm going to give them the first crack at it," Claxton said. "I guess if I don't like what I'm hearing from them, I'll have to move on. But I hope with the kind of season I had, they will reward me. I definitely want to be paid my value, and right now I think my value is pretty high, and I think they know that."

[furry_spurry]

Why would NO want Barry's deal with that contract for Peja. They need the money for a big man.

[picnroll]

Looks like Banks won't be going tot he Lakers.

[Kori Ellis]

Did people scan over this news??

No, there's a whole other thread about Thomas to the Clippers.

[Mr. Body]

"I'm going to give them the first crack at it," Claxton said. "I guess if I don't like what I'm hearing from them, I'll have to move on. But I hope with the kind of season I had, they will reward me. I definitely want to be paid my value, and right now I think my value is pretty high, and I think they know that."

Hssssss. That doesn't sound good.

Nevermind.

[Bruno]

If the JR Smith trade was still alive, there's no reason that trade wouldn't be done by now.


There is the reason that this trade doesn't work under the CBA during the Draft.

I think too that NO doesn't need Barry anymore but Pacers need a shooter now. :worthy: Jeff Foster :worthy:

[ducks]

pacers should trade oneal and start over now

[ducks]

they could call bulls and see what offers they would get for j oneal

[Quadzilla99]

LA Times confirms Radmanovic to Lakers


Radmanovic signs with Lakers; Cassell on the way out as Clippers sign Suns' Thomas

By Mike Bresnahan and Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
4:13 PM PDT, July 1, 2006


The Los Angeles Lakers moved quickly Saturday on the first day of free agency, addressing their need for outside shooting by snatching away a piece from their cross-town rival by agreeing to terms with three-point specialist Vladimir Radmanovic.

The Los Angeles Clippers also reacted quickly after Radmanovic and point guard Sam Cassell apparently reneged on agreements to stay with them, reaching terms with sharp-shooting forward Tim Thomas early Saturday.

Clippers Coach Mike Dunleavy and the representatives of Thomas, a 6-foot-10 forward who revived his career with Phoenix late last season, completed a four-year, $24-million deal Saturday at about 12:30 a.m. The move capped a dizzying three-hour period in which the Clippers were informed Cassell and Radmanovic accepted and then rejected multi-year offers, sources said.

Radmanovic agreed Saturday to a five-year, $31-million contract with the Lakers, the same package the Clippers offered.

"At the conclusion of the moratorium period, the Lakers intend to enter into a contract with Vladimir Radmanovic," Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak said.

Radmanovic, who stretches defenses by luring post players away from the basket with his outside shot, has career averages of 10.1 points, 5.4 rebounds and 38.1% shooting from three-point range.

Thomas, a nine-year veteran, who makes his off-season home in Los Angeles, played a key role in the Suns' run to the Western Conference finals. Thomas averaged 14.7 points, 6.1 rebounds and made 37.8% of his three-pointers as Phoenix defeated the Clippers in the semifinals.

Free agents cannot officially sign contracts until July 12.

If Cassell's gone so are the Clippers as a contender.

[T Park]

I disagree.

Livingston is a stud, and can be ready to step in.

They don't have much money left, but all they could need for a back up point is a Pargo or someone like that.


Great move by the Clippers.


The Lakers?

I don't see what this does, other than, clogs up the perimiter even more.

More post ups for Odom to kick out to Radmonovic and Kobe?

[clubalien]

hmm iasah thomas looking for a new job
spurs looking for a new coach
j o'neal wanting to have thomas as a coach

J o'neal or bust

duncan center
oneal Power forward

[ducks]

sam told clippers he wanted 2 years from the get go

this is day one and nothing is signed yet

but things are happening faster then I expected

[T Park]

hmm iasah thomas looking for a new job
spurs looking for a new coach

Wheres Dr Kevorkian when you need him......

[Mr. Body]

The Lakers finally got their Slava Medvedenko replacement!

[furry_spurry]

I think Barry for JR Smith won't happen. Word is the Spurs were shopping Barry around the league during the draft. If the JR Smith trade was still alive, there's no reason that trade wouldn't be done by now.

One of the two teams backed off and it's looking more and more like it's dead.
I think Smith will be packaged with PJ Brown's expiring contract for some teams overpaid contract.

[ducks]

sam to lakers now?

if that is the cause they are going to be alot better next year

[Quadzilla99]

I disagree.

Livingston is a stud, and can be ready to step in.

They don't have much money left, but all they could need for a back up point is a Pargo or someone like that.


Great move by the Clippers.


The Lakers?

I don't see what this does, other than, clogs up the perimiter even more.

More post ups for Odom to kick out to Radmonovic and Kobe?

Livingston couldn't hit a jump shot if you left him alone in a gym.

[Bob Lanier]

sam to lakers now?

if that is the cause they are going to be alot better next year
For what? The Lakers just blew their MLE and I doubt they have any pieces the Clippers would want in a S&T.

Sam's going elsewhere (Detroit? :clap )

[ducks]

sam wants 6.6 million a year he said
that is what he made last year

you want another old player?

[ducks]

he also wants 2 year deal

[ducks]

are the spurs going to do anything?


they are waiting for ben to make up his mind
he is the big that is holding things up

[Quadzilla99]

The Clippers letting undoubtedly their second best player and their no doubt leader go? That's almost a good idea. They will win 42-43 games next year tops and regret it big time.

[T Park]

are the spurs going to do anything?


You do know theres at least, ohhh, 3 months left.

impatient much?

[clubalien]

and get a good pick in the deepest draft in awhile

pure cheap clipper greatness

[Kori Ellis]

It's weird that so many players are coming to terms on the first day. It doesn't normally go like this.

[T Park]

Yeah the last time I remember this happening, was in 99 after the lockout.

Don't know what the big rush is to get deals done.

Strange.

[Kori Ellis]

The Los Angeles Clippers also reacted quickly after Radmanovic and point guard Sam Cassell apparently reneged on agreements to stay with them, reaching terms with sharp-shooting forward Tim Thomas early Saturday.

Clippers Coach Mike Dunleavy and the representatives of Thomas, a 6-foot-10 forward who revived his career with Phoenix late last season, completed a four-year, $24-million deal Saturday at about 12:30 a.m. The move capped a dizzying three-hour period in which the Clippers were informed Cassell and Radmanovic accepted and then rejected multi-year offers, sources said.

That sucks for the Clippers that they agreed then reneged.

[Solid D]

This means the Hornets probably don't want/need Brent Barry.

Which also means that Brent may be around to read more Tall-Tales with Tim to children in the HEB Commercials. :smokin

[Hook Dem]

:lmao :lmao Spurs getting dicked over with all these moves and they are capped out. Meanwhile the Mavs keep their team in tact to start their DYNASTY while the old ass spurs cant buy a fucking deal and the guys they had "hoped" to land wont be coming :lol :lol . Wait wait maybe youll land Big Ben :lmao :lmao....So much for the Spurs coming back hahahahahahahaah :)
Save a little sugar to put on your words when the "old" Spurs punk your chokers. It'll go down easier that way! :lol

[loveforthegame]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-hornets-stojakovic&prov=ap&type=lgns

Stojakovic agrees to terms with Hornets

By JEFF LATZKE, AP Sports Writer
July 1, 2006

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- The New Orleans Hornets made the first splash of the NBA's free-agent signing period, agreeing to terms Saturday with three-time All-Star Peja Stojakovic.

Stojakovic, who last week opted to become a free agent instead of continue playing for Indiana, will sign a five-year deal worth about $64 million with the Hornets, said his agent, David Bauman.

Bauman said Stojakovic will sign as soon as the NBA's moratorium ends next week. NBA teams were allowed to begin negotiating with free agents on Saturday but cannot officially sign players until July 12.

After playing his first seven seasons with Sacramento, the Kings dealt Stojakovic to Indiana in a midseason trade for Ron Artest. He averaged 19.5 points and shot 46 percent from the field in 40 games with the Pacers but then missed four of Indiana's six playoff games against the New Jersey Nets with a right knee injury. The Pacers lost each game he didn't play.

Stojakovic, 29, opted out of the final year of his six-year contract in hopes of getting a long-term deal and a bump in salary. He had been due to earn $8.125 million next season.

Stojakovic is one of the league's most prolific outside shooters, having hit 40 percent from 3-point range over his eight-year career. He and Seattle's Ray Allen are the only two NBA players to make at least 100 3-pointers in each of the past seven seasons.

Last season, he finished 13th in 3-pointers made (162), and was also second in free-throw shooting (91.5 percent).

Prior to his trade to Indiana, Stojakovic missed nine games -- including one against the Hornets -- with a variety of injuries including a protruding disc in his lower back, a sprained right pinkie finger and a strained groin.

For his career, Stojakovic has averaged 18.4 points and 5.1 rebounds.

[Quadzilla99]

That sucks for the Clippers that they agreed then reneged.

The Clippers already have Maggette as a 6th man and they like Ross alot as a starter with Mobley. I was wondering why Radmanovic would want to go there as a 2nd 6th man anyway. Unless they were planning to move Maggette. As for Cassell they need him bad and he would start the next 2 years over Livingston imo. Or at least he should. Thomas can play the 3 and the 4 so he wouldn't compete as much for minutes with Maggette off the bench.

[T Park]

They got Lamondmurrayed.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, Pacers need a shooter now.....

[T Park]

(crosses fingers)

They need a PG too supposedly.....

[SPARKY]

Hey, Pacers need a shooter now.....

We have a winner...

[Kori Ellis]

(crosses fingers)

They need a PG too supposedly.....

True. They are tired of fat, injured Tinsley.

[strangeweather]

Meanwhile the Mavs keep their team in tact to start their DYNASTY
That's true -- the Mavs are off to a good start if they're looking to build the greatest playoff collapse dynasty EVAR!

[timvp]

Brent Barry for Jeff Foster works salary cap wise . . .

[strangeweather]

True. They are tired of fat, injured Tinsley.
What about starting Johnson? He looked pretty good in the playoffs.

[clubalien]

who was it that was saying tinsely was better than parker?

[SPARKY]

Brent Barry for Jeff Foster works salary cap wise . . .

Throw in Beno and Pooh.

[clubalien]

please no foster we can do better

[SPARKY]

please no foster we can do better

Like Wallace, right?

[ChumpDumper]

Might have to settle for Pollard.

[SPARKY]

Would Pollard + Evans + Javtokas suck that much?

It might not be so bad if the Spurs had a bigman by committee up front with TD.

[strangeweather]

Would Pollard + Evans + Javtokas suck that much?
Even with Bonner and no Evans I think it would be workable, especially if we sign someone like Jumaine Jones that gives us better-than-average rebounding at the 3.

[SPARKY]

Even with Bonner and no Evans I think it would be workable, especially if we sign someone like Jumaine Jones that gives us better-than-average rebounding at the 3.

I'd rather they spent $ on a backup point and backup small forward.

[strangeweather]

I'd rather they spent $ on a backup point and backup small forward.
Exactly. If we can move Barry for Pollard and land some genuine perimeter help, I'd call that a pretty decent offseason.

[Slinkyman]

Pollard is a free agent, why not sign him for the vet min?

[Slinkyman]

so right now, in the southwest division we have Dirk, Gasol, Peja and Tmac. Someone needs to call Jeffries agent yesterday and get a deal done or we'll have trouble matching up with every team in our division.

[strangeweather]

Pollard is a free agent, why not sign him for the vet min?
If he'll sign for that, sure.

But he's coming off making $6 million a year (though for that he was overpaid), and I doubt we can get him for less than $2.5-3M/year, and he might cost more. I think he'd laugh at the minimum.

[Bob Lanier]

OK, I see where this is going. Let's not be coy:

Spurs trade:
* Brent Barry ($5.1)
* Beno Udrih ($1.0)

Spurs receive:
* Stephen Jackson ($6.1)

Larry Bird trades:
* Black guy ($6.1)

Larry Bird receives:
* Two white guys ($6.1)

Pollard is a FA.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd love to get Jack back that way but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Slinkyman]

If he'll sign for that, sure.

But he's coming off making $6 million a year (though for that he was overpaid), and I doubt we can get him for less than $2.5-3M/year, and he might cost more. I think he'd laugh at the minimum.

Dudes in the nba for one reason, he's 7 feet tall. He's 31 and gets injuried alot if he wants 3 million a year F that i'd rather have some undrafted rookie. If 4 million is too much for Scola how is 3 million a good deal for Pollard?

[Mr. Body]

Ain't Pollard washed up?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

JR Smith will be a Nugget by the end of the month :dreaming: :lol

[baseline bum]

:lmao :lmao Spurs getting dicked over with all these moves and they are capped out. Meanwhile the Mavs keep their team in tact to start their DYNASTY while the old ass spurs cant buy a fucking deal and the guys they had "hoped" to land wont be coming :lol :lol . Wait wait maybe youll land Big Ben :lmao :lmao....So much for the Spurs coming back hahahahahahahaah :)

Wait 'til we sign our own exercise bike. BTW, how can anyone proclaim dynasty when the only banner hanging in their arena is for AC Green?

[Que Gee]

This means the Hornets probably don't want/need Brent Barry.

...told ya so.

[ducks]

where is the kluby??

[ChumpDumper]

...told ya so.You called Peja to the Hornets?

[loveforthegame]

How about 2 different deals with Indiana?

Barry/Udrih for Foster. Would we need to throw in the rights to Scola?

Williams for Jasikevicius.

Of course that doesn't address the long 3 we'd still need.

[maddnezz]

:lmao :lmao Spurs getting dicked over with all these moves and they are capped out. Meanwhile the Mavs keep their team in tact to start their DYNASTY while the old ass spurs cant buy a fucking deal and the guys they had "hoped" to land wont be coming :lol :lol . Wait wait maybe youll land Big Ben :lmao :lmao....So much for the Spurs coming back hahahahahahahaah :)
And still you have no RING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fro

[baseline bum]

I'd love to have Foster. 9 boards in 25 minutes per is ridiculous. Plus, he shoots 60% from the line!

[windboy226]

:lmao :lmao Spurs getting dicked over with all these moves and they are capped out. Meanwhile the Mavs keep their team in tact to start their DYNASTY while the old ass spurs cant buy a fucking deal and the guys they had "hoped" to land wont be coming :lol :lol . Wait wait maybe youll land Big Ben :lmao :lmao....So much for the Spurs coming back hahahahahahahaah :)

Idiot. Why don't we actually win a title first before you start talking dynasty...

[beirmeistr]

Wait 'til we sign our own exercise bike. BTW, how can anyone proclaim dynasty when the only banner hanging in their arena is for AC Green?
maybe they mean Die Nasty

[RON ARTEST]

maybe they mean Die Nasty
:lmao

[Buddy Holly]

Brent Barry for Jeff Foster works salary cap wise . . .


I'll do ya one better.

Spurs trade Beno and Brent to New Orleans. New Orleans trade PJ Brown to Indy and JR Smith to SA. Indy trades Foster to SA.

http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06260/trade.png

[rayray2k8]

Wow teams arent wasting time on these free-agents.

[MI21]

I'll do ya one better.

Spurs trade Beno and Brent to New Orleans. New Orleans trade PJ Brown to Indy and JR Smith to SA. Indy trades Foster to SA.

http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06260/trade.png

Who does Indiana get in return for Jeff Foster? :lol

[Buddy Holly]

PJ Brown

[Buddy Holly]

Is this kid Mouse or someone else goofing?

Other wise, why hasn't Kori or LJ banned this 'tard?

[Sense]

This offseason has to suck ass for the Spurs and its fans. No Scola,Jefferies,Harrington,JR Smith etc. Hmmm maybe Ben Wallace will take a paycut :flypig :flypig :lmao :lmao :lmao .Oh well looks like you will have to put trust in Matt Bonner and Eric Williams to beat the Mavs.... :lol God saying that shit is fucking hysterical!! You guys have no cap room and all these guys you are trying to get dont want to come to your organization because they are getting better deals. Hmmmm well Spree and Rodney white you can land for the total MLE! :lmao :lmao

You say it like we don't have a Manu, TP, or a Tim Duncan in this team... and a very bad coach... and umm.... well you just made us sound like the Lakers..

But then again that's why you're stupid and delusional... you were this season too, and you still have no ring :lol

[Kori Ellis]

I am not posting new threads on this(spamming) and I am giving your team the cold harded facts. You guys are in deep shit not being able to land anyone and you MUST make the right moves but you cant cuz all the guys you are trying to get are getting better offers!

Who were the Spurs going after that got a better offer?

And tone down the emoticons and insults, you are extremely annoying.

[Slinkyman]

I am not posting new threads on this(spamming) and I am giving your team the cold harded facts. You guys are in deep shit not being able to land anyone and you MUST make the right moves but you cant cuz all the guys you are trying to get are getting better offers! You are capped out and if you want to beat the Mavs something has to give. Go ask Ben Wallace if hell take the vets minimum or half of the MLE to try to win a championship :lmao :lmao :rolleyes

where were you a couple weeks ago when you team lost 4 in a row after being up 2 games and leading by 13 in the 4th in game 3? I don't care if the spurs never sign another quality player they have never let their fans down like that, Dallas still needs to sign someone who won't fade in the clutch. Someone who's nuts don't shrink when the game's on the line.

[Slinkyman]

Well you need to find athletic guys outside of your big 3 cuz they are old. You wont be beating an up and coming Mavs team by getting older. No cap space and running out of options is not a good situation. And yes we lost that series and stop trying to use that crap to defend my facts on the Spurs situation. Thanks :king

We'll see the offseason just started

[Kori Ellis]

:angel Thanks for the honesty sweetheart :) Well if the Hornets deal JR they can get something else in return due to them not wanting that old ass Barry. Jefferies will get a better offer as will Scola. Al Harrington, Big Ben etc will get better offers as well.

Scola will get a better offer? The Spurs hold his rights. So hopefully they will trade him if that's what you mean.

Of course Ben Wallace, Al Harrington, etc will get more than the MLE. The Spurs don't need a player of their caliber. They just need a couple tweaks. Don't act like the Spurs need an overhaul. The series went to 7, remember?

By the way, your other user name are you just pretending to be a Spurs fan? Or this user name are you just pretending to be a Mavs fan?

[Slinkyman]

Ummmm reread my post you dumb son of a bitch! I said OUTSIDE your big 3 :rolleyes. Do you need to be taught how to read?? :lol

yeah, i re-read your post and edited mine.

[furry_spurry]

...told ya so.
I tried to tell people that when it comes to Brent, believe you over everyone else.

What about Golden State?

[NBA Junkie]

Looks like Banks won't be going tot he Lakers.

I hear the Cavaliers are very interested in Banks.

With Foye in Minny, I don't think Banks will re-sign with the Wolves.

[NBA Junkie]

Clippers got a better all-around player in Thomas and are better off without Radmanovic. Thomas gives them better rebounding and an occasional inside scorer. They're about even in terms of defense, but that's not saying much since neither is very good at it.

I'm shocked that Peja got such a big contract from someone other than Indiana. I was dead wrong on that. That said, I still don't see him immensely improving the Hornets into a Western conference powerhouse. They're probably a 7 or 8 seed at best if everything clicks.