Bobby Jackson heads to NO; Claxton becomes a lot more available

[El_Mago]

http://myeyewitnessnews.com/sports/local/story.aspx?content_id=3D3C4ACD-BB99-42E2-A562-325B954A3BF7

How much does this affect Claxton?

Is he all but out of NO now?

He claims he wants 4-6 million...that maybe too much dough for Claxton.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Nuggets will get JR Smith :smokin

thats a pipedream though

[Marcus Bryant]

The Hornets now will probably be more receptive to a sign and trade deal.

[ChumpDumper]

Can they?

With Peja and Jackson and two 1st rounders, their cap space has to be drying up pretty quickly.

[Quadzilla99]

:rolleyes

If you discuss things reasonably that's fine but to just shit on the Spurs over and over is annoying and wastes everybody's time.

[Big P]

Just because he's more available, doesn't make him any less expensive.

[Mr. Body]

Claxton's definitely somewhere else next year. I wonder if he falls in Texas somewhere. A list of those interested would be nice.

[Quadzilla99]

Claxton's definitely somewhere else next year. I wonder if he falls in Texas somewhere. A list of those interested would be nice.

It's on the Speedy 4-6 link look it up.

[clubalien]

hmm ben wallace a bull never saw it but no1fan at hornets is reporting it and he has been right about every rumor so far

[Quadzilla99]

If I were the Cavs, I would try to trade Hughes and get Speedy.
Ditto.

[CubanMustGo]

Houston might be interested if they can't sign Mike James. Dallas might be open to signing him as well. I think he is out of the Spurs price range. He could start for Atlanta, Cleveland, or Philly. If I were the Cavs, I would try to trade Hughes and get Speedy.

According to one of the Dallas TV stations, Dallas has offered *James* the MLE.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean James?

[Quadzilla99]

You mean James?^^

[CubanMustGo]

Yes, James. Sorry.

[Texas_Ranger]

Bring Claxton in San Antonio, I think that he knows that he will get a ring much quicker that in Atlanta or in some other bad team.

[Mr. Body]

He already has a ring. He may want to get his money.

[Trainwreck2100]

According to one of the Dallas TV stations, Dallas has offered *James* the MLE.

who?

[Texas_Ranger]

^
Perhaps, but I don`t think so. Claxton is a good guy. :)

[ducks]

speedy could get that offer from the hawks
they went after sam
sam turned them down

[Quadzilla99]

This offseason is sooo looong. :lol :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Troll bullshit is deleted and will continue to be deleted.

I had enough of it long before you got here.

[TDMVPDPOY]

claxton is only worth 2.5-3mill if he decides to play in texas imo.

another lookin for services are the fagotz in minnesota, damn i wish they they continue to suck

[Marcus Bryant]

Can they?

With Peja and Jackson and two 1st rounders, their cap space has to be drying up pretty quickly.

Barry might still look quite appealing to the New Orleans/Kenner/Tulsa Hornets.

[Kori Ellis]

Claxton made it pretty clear that he's looking to get paid.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't forget they say they want to keep Butler too.

There's another 3 million or so

[timvp]

Barry, Beno and Oberto for Claxton and JR Smith would be fantastic. NO wanted Barry. Beno had his career high versus the Hornets. Oberto will give them even more size that they need.

It's a pipe dream right now but who knows.

[ducks]

Claxton made it pretty clear that he's looking to get paid.


I see him now with the hawks

hawks have the capspace and they striked out on sam

[clubalien]

Jr is already promised in a trade i thought

[Kori Ellis]

Looks like the Hawks, Cavs, and Suns have all contacted Claxton. I wonder if the Spurs are even considering it.

[Mr. Body]

Looks like the Hawks, Cavs, and Suns have all contacted Claxton. I wonder if the Spurs are even considering it.

It seems the Spurs are much more interested in size. Believing Udrih (plus Watson+) can backup the point, with limited resources they'd rather get their C or PF. Maybe a S&T is off the board, hasn't occurred to them, or is not yet a priority.

Who knows?

[timvp]

If Speedy wasn't the point guard version of Marcus Camby, I'd want him here for whatever it took. But because of his injuries, I can't justify offering him more than a three-year deal ... and that just won't get it done.

[Marcus Bryant]

Barry, Beno and Oberto for Claxton and JR Smith would be fantastic. NO wanted Barry. Beno had his career high versus the Hornets. Oberto will give them even more size that they need.

It's a pipe dream right now but who knows.


It makes sense for both teams. Such a deal would turn on whether the Hornets are interested in Udrih or not.

[Marcus Bryant]

Looks like the Hawks, Cavs, and Suns have all contacted Claxton. I wonder if the Spurs are even considering it.

So the Spurs go after Pryzbilla, he eventually gets someone to give him fifty million dollars and the Spurs are stuck hoping that Javtokas blows up next season.

[ducks]

who the hell says spurs would sign joel for 50 million?

[furry_spurry]

Speedy wants more $ and a longer deal than the Spurs will pay for a back-up point guard. They have needs ahead of that. Smart signing by NO- who doesn't need Barry anymore. That isn't going to happen- let it go.

[ducks]

talk was 5 million a year for 5 years

[timvp]

It makes sense for both teams. Such a deal would turn on whether the Hornets are interested in Udrih or not.

You would think so considering that Bobby Jackson might be the only point guard in the league more fragile than Speedy Claxton.

[ducks]

why are the suns after speedy?

do they not think they can resign their backup point now?

[Kori Ellis]

why are the suns after speedy?

do they not think they can resign their backup point now?



The first priority is a backup to point guard Steve Nash, with veterans like Bobby Jackson, Lindsey Hunter and Speedy Claxton among those the team has already contacted or will inquire about. All three players will want more than the veteran minimum, but the Suns now have more to spend in an attempt to secure their services.

[timvp]

Spurs fans don't realize that Barbosa isn't a point guard. The guy is Antonio Daniels but even less of a point guard. The reason he's as good as he is lies with the back-to-back MVP spoon feeding him and the shooters creating wide open lanes.

Barbosa's greatness is a top ten Spurs fan myth.

[Quadzilla99]

Spurs fans don't realize that Barbosa isn't a point guard. The guy is Antonio Daniels but even less of a point guard. The reason he's as good as he is lies with the back-to-back MVP spoon feeding him and the shooters creating wide open lanes.

Barbosa's greatness is a top ten Spurs fan myth.

I disagree he's not a point guard but he's a very talented player who has explosive athleticism and can play the playthe 2 some despite being 6'3 because of his freakish wingspan.

[mabber]

Spurs fans don't realize that Barbosa isn't a point guard. The guy is Antonio Daniels but even less of a point guard. The reason he's as good as he is lies with the back-to-back MVP spoon feeding him and the shooters creating wide open lanes.

Barbosa's greatness is a top ten Spurs fan myth.

Agreed. Barbosa is made for that system in Phoenix. He wouldn't be nearly as effective a more traditional offense. Dude is scary fast though.

[SPARKY]

So instead of the Spurs making a run at Claxton he goes to the Suns and gives Nash a backup so Nash doesn't have to play 50 minutes a night. Nice.

[ducks]

suns have money problems

signing speedy for 5 years starting at 6 is going to be a mistake
unless they let Barbosa WAlk
and just resign diaw
and keem marion

[ducks]

So instead of the Spurs making a run at Claxton he goes to the Suns and gives Nash a backup so Nash doesn't have to play 50 minutes a night. Nice.

his coach will still have to play him 50 minutes he does not like to use his bench
plus speedy will be hurt all the time so ...

[SPARKY]

suns have money problems

signing speedy for 5 years starting at 6 is going to be a mistake
unless they let Barbosa WAlk
and just resign diaw
and keem marion

Then wtf are the Spurs?

[SPARKY]

his coach will still have to play him 50 minutes he does not like to use his bench
plus speedy will be hurt all the time so ...

Lame.

[mabber]

suns have money problems

signing speedy for 5 years starting at 6 is going to be a mistake
unless they let Barbosa WAlk
and just resign diaw
and keem marion

Not sure what their plan is but they have some more money to work with now that Tim Thomas has gone to the Clippers.

[ducks]

really?

look at their payroll

they still have to extend diaw and Barbosa

[ducks]

they might just keep marion now

[FromWayDowntown]

FWIW as an interesting side note for discussion's sake, the ESPN story reporting the Jackson signing notes that BJax's agent, Andy Miller, is also Rasual Butler's agent. Not that it's a dramatic change in the landscape, but Miller reportedly thinks it's unlikely that Butler will end up back with the Hornets. For those who have beaten the drum for Butler, the opportunity to get him may have improved.


Miller, who also represents Rasual Butler -- another of the Hornets' free agents -- said it's unlikely the 6-foot-7 forward will re-sign with the team. Butler led Hornets regulars in 3-pointers (92) and 3-point shooting percentage (38.0) last season.

Jackson Agrees to Terms with Hornets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2507787)

[gameFACE]

Speedy needs to get a grip. Unless he goes to a place like Atlanta he's going to be second banana. And he deserves second banana money.

[Big P]

Butler would be nice, but I'm pretty sure he's going for the money..I wouldn't want to dip into the MLE for him...if there were a way to do a s&t, say, Butler & Macijauskas, or Butler & JR Smith for Barry, then I would be for it...another possibility(all be it a slight one), would be for NO to be interested in Nazr(they are thin at the C position)& do a s&t with Nazr..

[loveforthegame]

Probably not the right thread but since Peja and Jackson are reuniting I wonder if Pollard is next?

[ChumpDumper]

Holy shit!
Sources say the Hornets paid $17 million for three years for the artist formerly known as Bobby Jackson — which hurts the Suns in a couple of areas.

The market for Speedy Claxton, Lindsey Hunter, Jannero Pargo and even Eddie House just shot upward. And if Jackson is worth $5.7 million a year to back up Chris Paul until he gets hurt, what will Leandro Barbosa’s camp ask for this summer?
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=68935

Two other things it probably means:

1. The Hornets might have to renounce Speedy since his unrenounced value could eat into their offers to Jackson and Peja - especially if they want to keep Butler. No S&T with Speedy in that case.

2. The only way they get a decent vet SG is through a trade.

[Bruno]

^^ 3. Claxton will cost something like $31M/5 years : way too expensive for a backup PG who is injury prone.

[T Park]

That, in a way, is good for the Spurs, cause that might make teams like Phoenix and Dallas back off a bit.

[CaptainLate]

...but he's a very talented player who has explosive athleticism and can play the playthe 2 some despite being 6'3 because of his freakish wingspan.


Isn't Barby the guy we picked for Phoenix, instead of picking Josh Howard. Good move FO. :madrun

[mabber]

That, in a way, is good for the Spurs, cause that might make teams like Phoenix and Dallas back off a bit.

Mavs woudn't be interested in Claxton unless they don't get Mike James... which is entirely possible. Suns are probably too cheap to pay for Claxton.

[timvp]

3-year, $17M for Bobby Jackson is just wrong. The Hornets two ex-Kings signings have been classicly overpaid.

$80M for two guys were last good three years ago?

Nice. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

1. The Hornets might have to renounce Speedy since his unrenounced value could eat into their offers to Jackson and Peja - especially if they want to keep Butler. No S&T with Speedy in that case.

2. The only way they get a decent vet SG is through a trade.Well, #1 has already happened.

[T Park]

Hopefully number 2 could be accomplished

[mabber]

3-year, $17M for Bobby Jackson is just wrong. The Hornets two ex-Kings signings have been classicly overpaid.

$80M for two guys were last good three years ago?

Nice. :lol

Yeah, $17million for Jackson is just ridiculous. He's so not the player he used to be. The Mav guards were able to take away his outside shot in that 1st round series cuz they new he didn't have the speed or quickness to drive by them. I saw games 1 & 2 of that Memphis series very close to the court and I was shocked at how far he's fallen compared to his prime. Not saying that he wouldn't be a decent pickup but not for that much money.