The Bigs

[Kori Ellis]

So who is left?

Joel Przybilla
Nazr Mohammed
Lorenzen Wright
Reggie Evans
Michael Olowokandi
Jamaal Magliore (via trade)
Tyson Chandler (via trade)
Chris Wilcox (restricted)
Drew Gooden (restricted)

Is that it?

I'm trying to make a list for a vbookie. :drunk

[violentkitten]

i need some liquor.

[SA210]

Let's get Pryzy.

[Quadzilla99]

^^Look at that motley band of stiffs oowee.

[Slinkyman]

does jeffries count? also jackie butler from NY

[ChumpDumper]

Lonnie Baxter
Melvin Ely (R)

[DallasFan]

The Bulls may be tempted to part ways with Chandler now that they have Wallace. Who would the Spurs trade for him though?

[clubalien]

I would like Kaman I just don;t think we have anything worth trading for him

[beirmeistr]

Night of the Living Dead

[Kori Ellis]

does jeffries count? also jackie butler from NY

I count Jeffries as a SF. I forgot about Butler, did he agree with NY yet?

[timvp]

I'd probably add Jackie Butler, Brendan Haywood (trade) and Melvin Ely (restricted)

[furry_spurry]

Bet the Spurs get none of those.

Oberto will be starting- I told you last week. Seriously.

[ChumpDumper]

Marc Jackson
Magic Lamp
Kelvin Cato

[Kori Ellis]

Bet the Spurs get none of those.

Oberto will be starting- I told you last week. Seriously.

He can't pull down a rebound but he'd lead the league in tap outs :drunk :spin

[FromWayDowntown]

For Quadzilla's mental health, you might include Scola, who apparently has drawn the ire of all 30 GM's who won't deign to pay him the full MLE.

[strangeweather]

So who is left?

Joel Przybilla
Nazr Mohammed
Lorenzen Wright
Reggie Evans
Michael Olowokandi
Jamaal Magliore (via trade)
Tyson Chandler (via trade)
Chris Wilcox (restricted)
Drew Gooden (restricted)

Is that it?

I'm trying to make a list for a vbookie. :drunk
There are some other guys we might be able to pry loose with a trade, but it's pretty hard to say in advance who it might be.

Is there anyone else left who can offer Przybilla more than the MLE? Given the inflated contracts that have been flying around lately, it seems like someone might be crazy enough to offer him 5 years, $35 million or something.

[ChumpDumper]

Sean Marks

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Butler agreed to sign for $1 mil with Knicks (i think)

Chandler is apparently heading to the Hornets for PJ Brown, so many people have said they have heard in different forums. Probably a load of crap anyway

[ChumpDumper]

Shawn Kemp!

[furry_spurry]

Sean Marks
:tu

[Kori Ellis]

Is there anyone else left who can offer Przybilla more than the MLE? Given the inflated contracts that have been flying around lately, it seems like someone might be crazy enough to offer him 5 years, $35 million or something.

Hawks, Bobcats, Hornets all have capspace I believe.

[timvp]

Butler agreed to sign for $1 mil with Knicks (i think)


That was just the qualifying offer.

[beirmeistr]

Voskuhl
Pollard

[furry_spurry]

Butler agreed to sign for $1 mil with Knicks (i think)

Chandler is apparently heading to the Hornets for PJ Brown, so many people have said they have heard in different forums. Probably a load of crap anyway
That is the PJ/JR trade rumor that has been making the rounds.

[Kori Ellis]

Okay there's too many bigs available to make a vBookie, but at least now we have a list who is available.

I think the Spurs are going to end up with Jamaal Magloire or Danny Fortson for a year. :drunk :drunk :drunk

[ChumpDumper]

Loren Woods
Jarron Collins

[Slinkyman]

Darius Songaila, Francisco Elson

[clubalien]

if we are ading scola which we hold the rights to then damnit were adding javtokas because

you heard it here first

javtokas to spurs is a LOCK

you don;t get anymore fool proof then a clubalien" it is a lock" statment :D

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

That was just the qualifying offer.


oh ok.

I wanted to see Butler in Denver, i think he has a solid future but i dont think it will be in powder blue :smokin

[SA210]

Where's Mengke Bateer when you need him?

[strangeweather]

Hawks, Bobcats, Hornets all have capspace I believe.
From that list, the Hawks would probably be the biggest team to watch, given their need for a center.

[ChumpDumper]

We are so going to sign Robert Traylor.

[clubalien]

Shawn Kemp!
as a middle schooler I saw this dude at the in alamo dome spurs veruss sonics

this dude has major hops

allstar materal

[DallasFan]

We are so going to sign Robert Traylor.
...and trade him for Nowitzki :drunk

[Solid D]

There are some 2nd and 3rd tier Bigs from cbssportsline:
Eastern Conference

Lonny Baxter UFA
Melvin Ely RFA
Jake Voskhul UFA
Alan Henderson UFA
Kelvin Cato UFA
Scot Pollard UFA
Alonzo Mourning UFA
Ervin Johnson UFA
Scott Padgett UFA
Cliff Robinson UFA
Jackie Butler RFA
Tony Battie UFA
Bo Outlaw UFA
Shavlik Randolph RFA
Lauren Woods UFA

[furry_spurry]

Hawks, Bobcats, Hornets all have capspace I believe.
Raptors- but they won't use it on a center. Funny- people said Toronto was stupid for taking on Rasho's 3 year $23M contract, but B Colangelo believed that it was a far better deal for his team than what players would be getting in FA this summer- especially given the length of those deals. He looks pretty smart right now.

[strangeweather]

as a middle schooler I saw this dude at the in alamo dome spurs veruss sonics

this dude has major hops

allstar materal
Moses Malone was an incredible player when I was in middle school. Maybe we can sign him again.

[Quadzilla99]

For Quadzilla's mental health, you might include Scola, who apparently has drawn the ire of all 30 GM's who won't deign to pay him the full MLE.


Omg we been through this ad nauseam already. please don't start again.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm pretty sure Battie signed an extension awhile back and Cliffy agreed to terms with the Nets.

[Quadzilla99]

Moses Malone was an incredible player when I was in middle school. Maybe we can sign him again.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[violentkitten]

meanwhile, back at holt's ranch

http://www.mnopltd.com/cdance/loc8b15887r.jpg

[Vinnie_Johnson]

i need some liquor.


Lets go I got first round.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

There are some 2nd and 3rd tier Bigs from cbssportsline:
Eastern Conference

Lonny Baxter UFA
Melvin Ely RFA
Jake Voskhul UFA
Alan Henderson UFA
Kelvin Cato UFA
Scot Pollard UFA
Alonzo Mourning UFA
Ervin Johnson UFA
Scott Padgett UFA
Cliff Robinson UFA
Jackie Butler RFA
Tony Battie UFA
Bo Outlaw UFA


Outside of Zo that is a crap pile there. :drunk
Shavlik Randolph RFA
Lauren Woods UFA

[Despot]

Okay there's too many bigs available to make a vBookie, but at least now we have a list who is available.

I think the Spurs are going to end up with Jamaal Magloire or Danny Fortson for a year. :drunk :drunk :drunk

No matter what list you made, or how long the list was, I would put my money on "other".

[Solid D]

sportsline:
Western Conference

Keith Van Horn UFA
Francisco Elson RFA
Reggie Evans UFA
Walter McCarty UFA
Boniface Ndong RFA
Lorenzen Wright UFA
Aaron Williams UFA
Joel Przybilla UFA
Jamal Sampson UFA
Sean Marks UFA
Nazr Mohammed UFA
Chris Wilcox RFA
Jarron Collins UFA

[clubalien]

quick someone call up karl malone and sign him as our new 4 and move tim to center

payton got his ring lets get malone one ;/

[timvp]

Seriously though, Lo Wright wouldn't be thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean yeah he got beat out by Jake Tsakalidis but the guy actually played pretty well against the Mavs in the playoffs. 7 points, 5 rebounds in 20 minutes per night. Shot over 60% from the floor.

If the Spurs miss out on Evans, Przy, Mohammed and the rest, Lo might be worth looking at. Plus I like the story about how his wheelchair bound dad taught him to play basketball.

:smokin :drunk

[violentkitten]

spurs are so fucked.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

spurs are so fucked.

Not as Fucked as Detroit is. :drunk

[Quadzilla99]

Seriously though, Lo Wright wouldn't be thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean yeah he got beat out by Jake Tsakalidis but the guy actually played pretty well against the Mavs in the playoffs. 7 points, 5 rebounds in 20 minutes per night. Shot over 60% from the floor.

If the Spurs miss out on Evans, Przy, Mohammed and the rest, Lo might be worth looking at. Plus I like the story about how his wheelchair bound dad taught him to play basketball.

:smokin :drunk


I don't know look at the ESPN Insider scouting report on him:
________________________________________________
Wright defies logic, continuing to be a starting NBA center despite the fact that he is neither starter-quality nor a center. Offensively, Wright creates more shots than the average NBA big man because he can score inside or outside. However, he's not a high-percentage shooter from either spot. He likes to shoot 15-footers from the baseline but isn't terribly accurate, and he doesn't get to the line much for a big man. His other weapon is an ugly-looking, jump hook/fling that he shoots from the blocks, mostly into the front of the rim. Wright doesn't make turnovers, however, and can be effective from the high post dropping the ball down into Gasol.

Defensively, Wright rated fairly well despite being undersized. He's always had a knack for the boards and is one of the few Memphis big men who holds his own there. He also can block shots, but like Gasol he is outsized every night and has trouble defending physical post players.

Wright has a year remaining on a seven-year, $42 million deal but was enraged that the Grizzlies wouldn't extend it and demanded a trade over the summer. Considering Wright's age and the Grizzlies' cap situation, they should not extend Wright at any price. Long term they want a more traditional center in this spot, and the only other position for Wright currently belongs to Gasol. Obviously, Wright has made himself trade bait, and he could have a new home by the deadline.

[violentkitten]

you know it's coming.

ludden article.

mid august.

title 'spurs find life difficult with nba's luxury tax'.

opening frame 'the spurs are accustomed to not being the most favored destination for nba free agents, but now they have a much greater foe to contend with, the...luxury tax'

[strangeweather]

On the trade block: Troy Murphy. As discussed recently.

[ChumpDumper]

Quad, seriously, ease up on the google.

[Quadzilla99]

Not as Fucked as Detroit is. :drunk

That is true you guys are fucked big time.

[Kori Ellis]

Quad, seriously, ease up on the google.

:lmao

[Solid D]

Sonics are wayyyy far apart on Wilcox, reports are saying.

Of course, the more he wants, the less the Spurs can be a player.

[violentkitten]

On the trade block: Troy Murphy. As discussed recently.

or the spurs start robertas javtokas, win maybe 5 fewer games, still make the postseason and are guaranteed of seeing the second round.

[Kori Ellis]

Sonics are wayyyy far apart on Wilcox, reports are saying.

They are about 20M apart. :drunk

[Dre_7]

Hawks, Bobcats, Hornets all have capspace I believe.

If the Pryz wants to win more than make a few more bucks, then SA should be in the front running.

[violentkitten]

If the Pryz wants to win more than make a few more bucks, then SA should be in the front running.


dude, win?

[strangeweather]

or the spurs start robertas javtokas, win maybe 5 fewer games, still make the postseason and are guaranteed of seeing the second round.
I don't know if acquiring him is realistic, but GS is supposedly looking to trade him, so I wanted to add the name to the hopper.

If we could get him, I think he could be really effective in our system.

[clubalien]

serously if karl malones arch enemy jordan can come out of retirement then karl can

payton got his ring with heat insted of lakers and karl can get his here.

spurs front office said tim woudl see more time at the center position why? because karl malone is the best ever power forward.

tony>beno
manu>finely
bowen>barry
karl>Oberto/horry
tim>RJ

[furry_spurry]

sportsline:
Western Conference

Keith Van Horn UFA
Francisco Elson RFA
Reggie Evans UFA
Walter McCarty UFA
Boniface Ndong RFA
Lorenzen Wright UFA
Aaron Williams UFA
Joel Przybilla UFA
Jamal Sampson UFA
Sean Marks UFA
Nazr Mohammed UFA
Chris Wilcox RFA
Jarron Collins UFA
I was going to mention Van Horn, but I thought that was ban worthy. ;)

[Quadzilla99]

Quad, seriously, ease up on the google.

No Dice.

[Leetonidas]

Keith Van Horn in a Spurs uni? :lmao

[violentkitten]

I don't know if acquiring him is realistic, but GS is supposedly looking to trade him, so I wanted to add the name to the hopper.

If we could get him, I think he could be really effective in our system.


spurs make the 2nd round no matter what. why spend?

[ChumpDumper]

Resignation mode engaged.

[strangeweather]

spurs make the 2nd round no matter what. why spend?
Nice. :lol

[Solid D]

There is one other grizzled vet out there with size. Toni Kukoc UFA

[Leetonidas]

Kukoc? He's like 38 years old. If we're going to do that, let's find Kevin Willis again.

[violentkitten]

There is one other grizzled vet out there with size. Toni Kukoc UFA

that cat's still in the league?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like Jackie Butler. Think Isiah will do a S&T for Nazr? :drunk

[Solid D]

that cat's still in the league?

You should know about extra lives.

[violentkitten]

spurs fans fall prey to two fallacies. the first is that ownership is all about winning. the second is that fandom requires slave like devotion to ownership.

[violentkitten]

You should know about extra lives.


http://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/images/celebs/mcmahe.jpg

hi-oh

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Quad, seriously, ease up on the google.

:lmao

[Leetonidas]

Jamaal Magloire is in the last year of his contract...he makes about 8M this year. I think Kori is right and the Spurs will aquire him for a year.

[furry_spurry]

Who we going to trade for him?? Brent and Oberto??

[Leetonidas]

Who we going to trade for him?? Brent and Oberto??

Eric Williams to start, probably.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Eric Williams and Brent Barry would work.

[Quadzilla99]

Chicago still gets the Knicks pick next year too don't forget(they switch picks). If they land Greg Oden that would be ridiculous.

[Kori Ellis]

Eric Williams and Brent Barry would work.

You can't trade Eric Williams with another player for a while.

[furry_spurry]

Eric Williams and Brent Barry would work.
Would have to wait a couple of months for that-- right?

[Leetonidas]

Would have to wait a couple of months for that-- right?

August 21st I think.

[violentkitten]

if you had jamaal maglorison or whatever would you take back williams and barry?

[ChumpDumper]

I feel a disturbance in the force.

As if we traded Nazr and crap for Illgauskas.

Ok, it has passed.

[Quadzilla99]

How about PJ Brown? With some geritol and centrum silver we might be able to get 1 good year out of him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You can't trade Eric Williams with another player for a while.

Ah fuck, you're right. Sorry, I'm still on island time.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess we can hope he demands a buyout from Chicago.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How about PJ Brown? With some geritol and centrum silver we might be able to get 1 good year out of him.

There are reports out of Chicago that he is headed there with JR Smith in exchange for Tyson Chandler.

[loveforthegame]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508889

NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Monday night that the Bulls were close to shipping Tyson Chandler to the Hornets for P.J. Brown and J.R. Smith.

[clubalien]

spurs did want pj brown before rasho and his contract is ending but you think we get chandler?

[Despot]

How much do you all think he wants?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508719

Sonics, Wilcox 'far apart' as contract talks begin

"We're far apart in what we believe Chris' value to be and his contribution to the Seattle SuperSonics," Wilcox's agent, Jeff Fried, told The Associated Press. "We view Chris as an important part of the core."

Seattle has already made a qualifying offer to Wilcox, meaning the Sonics can match any offer he receives from another team. Wilcox could also choose not to sign a long-term deal, agree to a one-year contract with the Sonics and become an unrestricted free agent after next season.

But Wilcox and Fried seem focused on getting a long-term deal. In recent days the market has seen former Seattle forward Vladimir Radmanovic agree to a midlevel deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Nene reach agreement with Denver for six years, $60 million.

No contracts can be signed before July 12, and Sonics' general manager Rick Sund declined to comment on Monday.

Fried and Wilcox flew to Seattle on Sunday night to meet in person with Sonics management. Fried said there has been plenty of interest from other teams, and that the focus is finding the best situation for Wilcox.

The Bulls, Hawks, Clippers, Bobcats and Raptors are some of the teams considered to have enough salary cap space to pursue Wilcox. Sund reiterated during last week's NBA draft that resigning Wilcox was the Sonics' top priority in the offseason.

Wilcox thrived after being traded to Seattle on Feb. 14 in exchange for Radmanovic. Playing in an up-tempo system more to his liking, Wilcox averaged 14.1 points and 8.2 rebounds in his 29 games with Seattle. He also shot 59 percent -- including many thunderous dunks -- and averaged 30 minutes per game.

[Kori Ellis]

How much do you all think he wants?



Supposedly $64M :spin

[AFE7FATMAN]

Voskuhl
Pollard

I'll take Pollard for a year

[violentkitten]

come back rasho we were just kidding

[furry_spurry]

I'll take Pollard for a year

I think something like that is more reasonable to expect.

[strangeweather]

I'll take Pollard for a year

3 years, $8M maybe?

[loveforthegame]

come back rasho we were just kidding

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

You guys need to look up the number Pollard hard last year when O'neal was out of the lineup. The dude was a monster on the boards. If you want to talk about a realistic and very effective option, that dude is it.

Either way, lets not kid ourselves. The Spurs are not fucked. They could sign a pack of twinkies and a bruce bowen travel mug with the MLE and they would still be front runners in the West.

[cherylsteele]

Moses Malone was an incredible player when I was in middle school. Maybe we can sign him again.
I saw Artis Gilmore play as a Spur in the early '80s....he'd be a great pick-up.

[violentkitten]

spurs are so fucked.

[spurschick]

They could sign a pack of twinkies and a bruce bowen travel mug with the MLE and they would still be front runners in the West.


:lol :lol :lol

[spur219]

Not much selection