Sixers want Beno

[Kori Ellis]

In another development, another source indicated that the Sixers are among several teams to have contacted San Antonio about possibly trading for backup point guard Beno Udrih.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/14967882.htm

[Leetonidas]

Several teams? I wonder who they'd give for him. Iverson maybe? :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

Steven Hunter for Beno??

He started infront of Dalembert for a good portion of the season

[Horry For 3!]

Interesting..... I wonder if the Spurs will trade him

[Leetonidas]

Steven Hunter for Beno??

He started infront of Dalembert for a good portion of the season

We all wish...

[timvp]

Damn.

Offer anything decent and he is gone.

[Horry For 3!]

Steven Hunter for Beno??

He started infront of Dalembert for a good portion of the season
If we trade 1 for 1, we will only have 1 PG, Tony for the season til we acquire 2 more.

[MaNu4Tres]

Nevermind spurs would have to offer oberto in the equation for a Steven Hunter/ Beno deal

[timvp]

Oberto + Beno for Steven Hunter would be rather nice.

[Kori Ellis]

Nevermind spurs would have to offer oberto in the equation for a Steven Hunter/ Beno deal

And you wouldn't want that?

Beno + Oberto for Hunter would be awesome.

[Leetonidas]

Whatever happend to Jamal Mashburn?


If we trade 1 for 1, we will only have 1 PG, Tony for the season til we acquire 2 more.

Wasn't a PG named Watson going to sign with the Spurs? Barry can run the point and Janero Pargo is still out there...

[MaNu4Tres]

If we trade 1 for 1, we will only have 1 PG, Tony for the season til we acquire 2 more.


Then we could use Barry to trade for a back up point guard. Or maybe even let Barry take the back up point guard duties. Sign a 3rd pg for the minimum, then use our whole midlevel to try to lure jeffries from washington.

[Leetonidas]

Steven Hunter would be great. 7 feet tall, athletic, young, strong, and he even kicked Tim in the nuts once!

[ca®lo]

beno for iverson straight up! ok.. add a little bit of cash :)

[MaNu4Tres]

I would DEFINATLY want Oberto/Beno for Steven Hunter. I was just sayin NVM about beno for Hunter straight up because the salaries wouldn't match and oberto would have to be included.

[Kori Ellis]

If we are throwing out names of young bigmen to target via trade, then I'd like Steven Hunter.

Hopefully Pop and RC feel the same way.

[Leetonidas]

This is good news if it happens. I mean, sure it probably won't, but if the Spurs did manage to get Steven Hunter it would be a steal and then people would stop hurling themselves over cliffs before the seasons even starts.

[Obstructed_View]

Hunter looks like he has some potential, but he's not an upgrade over Rasho or Nazr unless he develops. He'd definitely be worth a shot, though.

[Horry For 3!]

Hunter would be the one that the Spurs would try to get if they traded Beno.

[Kori Ellis]

Hunter would be the one that the Spurs would try to get if they traded Beno.

Yeah that's what everyone already said in the thread. :lol

[Horry For 3!]

Yeah that's what everyone already said in the thread. :lol
Yes, I have looked through their line-up and no one else fits.

[MaNu4Tres]

Steven Hunter is only 24 as well. Another Turn-on for us spurs fans thats for sure!

[MaNu4Tres]

Yes, I have looked through their line-up and no one else fits.


I found it first :king ..

but kori ellis did find the article...props to kori!!! whooohooo

[polandprzem]

I was talking about Hunter like 2 milions months ago. And It would be pretty good to trade for him. But I would not give Beno and Oberto for him.
Beno or Horry would be nice.

(Long time ago I wanted Mercen in Spurs uniform, few years later he was in one.....) (Same thing with Carter)

[Horry For 3!]

I found it first :king ..

but kori ellis did find the article...props to kori!!! whooohooo
Good for you

[MaNu4Tres]

A pat myself on the back is in order.

[Kori Ellis]

(Long time ago I wanted Mercer in Spurs uniform, few years later he was in one.....) (Same thing with Carter)

Those aren't good things. :)

[mattyc]

Hunter would be a terrific pick up...

[Quadzilla99]

What about Hunter passing the physical this time? I guess we'll have to wait and see. His stats are pretty ordinary except for an astronomical field goal percentage the last 2 years and good shot blocking numbers. I wouldn't mind having him to compete with Javtokas for minutes. No long term deal until he proves himself here though please. Unfortunately he completely sucks balls at shooting free throws so he'll fit right in with our god awful free throw shooting team :bang :bang .

[Kori Ellis]

What about Hunter passing the physical this time? I guess we'll have to wait and see. His stats are pretty ordinary except for an astronomical field goal percentage the last 2 years and good shot blocking numbers. I wouldn't mind having him to compete with Javtokas for minutes. No long term deal though until he proves himself here though please. Unfortunately he completely sucks balls at shooting free throws so he'll fit right in with our god awful free throw shooting team :bang :bang .

He's under contract for for the next four years. If the Spurs trade for him, that doesn't change.

[Quadzilla99]

He's under contract for for the next four years. If the Spurs trade for him, that doesn't change.

Oh thanks. For how much Kori?

[polandprzem]

Those aren't good things. :)

Yeah Kori , but when I wanted them they were accualy good players. Then Mercer started to play like crap and Carter fall into pieces

[Kori Ellis]

Oh thanks. For how much Kori?

This upcoming season he makes a little over $3M, then I think he has small raises after that.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not sure how far out of favor Dalambert has fallen, but Mo Cheeks was starting Hunter ahead of him for awhile so I'm not sure how keen they are on getting rid of Hunter.

Beno+Oberto would be a fucking steal for him. That would be a hell of a move by the Spurs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

beno for a.i2

[Streakyshooter08]

I think there is no way the Sixers trade Hunter for Oberto/ Beno. I believe they want to keep him. It would be cool though...

[Rynospursfan]

Sixers would have to be crazy, lets hope they are.

[TDMVPDPOY]

these are the clowns on the sixers team that is earnin less then 3mill or around minimum to make it work if it was a straight up trade.

randolf rookie they drafted earnin minimum
Position: PF
Born: 11/24/83
Height: 6-10 / 2,08
Weight: 240 lbs. / 108,9 kg.
College: Duke '06

luis williams
Position: SG
Born: 10/27/86
Height: 6-2 / 1,88
Weight: 175 lbs. / 79,4 kg.
High School: South Gwinnett (GA)

willie green
Position: SG
Born: 7/28/81
Height: 6-4 / 1,93
Weight: 201 lbs. / 91,2 kg.
greg buckner
Position: SG
Born: 9/16/76
Height: 6-4 / 1,93
Weight: 210 lbs. / 95,3 kg.
College: Clemson '98
College: Detroit Mercy '03

seriously if they manage to trade AI or CWEBB, and tradin for beno, i want them to at least give us back a draft pick for beno, we are helpin them tankin the season by makin their roster look crap.

[MaNu4Tres]

FOr them^^ i wouldn't trade beno

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:lol


I can't believe it.

Onlything better than this would be a Oberto/Udrih package.

[Kibic]

Great for Beno. Hope it is true. It is not Spurs anymore.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

If we could score willie green.... *prays*

[Gummi]

I wouldn't trade Beno and Oberto for Hunter. Hunter is even worse then Oberto on the offensive end.

I saw Hunter play here in Orlando for three years and he sucked big time. The Magic had high hopes for him but after three seasons they gave up on him and traded him to the Cavs I think. I know he's improved since then but he's still very raw in offense and is a horrible free throw shooter.

I'd rather keep Oberto and Beno. And Javtokas is comming here and Hunter and Javtokas are very similar players. Both are athletic and tall and limited on the offensive end. I don't think Pop and R.C. have given up on Beno. He should be our backup PG next season.

[Sense]

Whatever happend to Jamal Mashburn?


Isn't he retiring or already retired?

[J.T.]

I'm not sure how far out of favor Dalambert has fallen, but Mo Cheeks was starting Hunter ahead of him for awhile so I'm not sure how keen they are on getting rid of Hunter.

Beno+Oberto would be a fucking steal for him. That would be a hell of a move by the Spurs.

Dalembert was hurt a lot of last year. He was getting mad blocks and rebounds when he came back early in the season, hurt his ankle again and wasn't the same after that.

[Leeroy]

maybe we could find a way to score Bobby Jones in a deal. i mean, hes been compared to bowen thanks to his defensive prowess, the sixers dont really have a spot for him and what better way for a rookie to learn than from the best

[Supergirl]

Why do people here like Hunter so much? He seemed pretty mediocre when I watched him for the Suns a couple years ago.

Isn't Dalembert (also rather mediocre) somewhat better? He had a huge upside at one point, anyway...

[shaggy17]

Didnt he fail a physical?? If we do land him cant wait to see Pop use him in the reg season and bench his ass for the playoffs! :rolleyes :madrun

[exstatic]

Why do people here like Hunter so much? He seemed pretty mediocre when I watched him for the Suns a couple years ago.

Isn't Dalembert (also rather mediocre) somewhat better? He had a huge upside at one point, anyway...
Dalmebert makes a TON of money($10M/per yr). Hunter doesn't ($3.3M per), and have you seen what is available out there? Hunter would definitely get paid more than what he is now if he were a FA now.

[MI21]

Hunter would be a nice fit.

Parker starts and gets his 36MPG and Barry slides over for 12MPG of backup PG.

Exactly how I've thought it should be, and how I thought it would be after the 2005 Finals.

[1Parker1]

Sixers are idiots :pctoss


PS Should I expect Angel_luv to move here permanently if Beno is traded? :eyebrows

[Quadzilla99]

Dalmebert makes a TON of money($10M/per yr). Hunter doesn't ($3.3M per), and have you seen what is available out there? Hunter would definitely get paid more than what he is now if he were a FA now.

Yeah this is an absolutely terrible era of Centers. Just think 10-12 years ago we had 4 centers (Pat, Hakeem, DRob, Shaq) who were members of the 50 greatest Players in NBA history all in their primes. Now the best center in the league is an aging fat Shaq, who's maybe 60% of what he was when he got schooled by Hakeem 10 years ago. So in this era Hunter is something to do cartwheels about.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I was talking about Hunter like 2 milions months ago.

gotdamn your old poland.

[GrandeDavid]

Since when has Isaiah been in Philly?? Just kidding!

[leemajors]

hopefully this puts the spurs in a position to steal a long 3 or serviceable big man in a 3-4 team trade involving iverson...

[ObiwanGinobili]

Can I just say this offseason is giving me a stomach ache?

[Quadzilla99]

Maybe we can get their second round pick Bobby Jones who is supposed to be a 6'7 athletic, defensive wing player.

[furry_spurry]

But... I thought no one would want Beno- just like no one would want Rasho. :)

Someone explain, though, how they would want Beno bad enough to take Beno + Oberto for Hunter. :lol

[furry_spurry]

Hunter would be a nice fit.

Parker starts and gets his 36MPG and Barry slides over for 12MPG of backup PG.

Exactly how I've thought it should be, and how I thought it would be after the 2005 Finals.
I wish, but even if Beno got traded, the Spurs would still continue to try to trade Brent.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I wouldn't trade Beno and Oberto for Hunter. Hunter is even worse then Oberto on the offensive end.

I saw Hunter play here in Orlando for three years and he sucked big time. The Magic had high hopes for him but after three seasons they gave up on him and traded him to the Cavs I think. I know he's improved since then but he's still very raw in offense and is a horrible free throw shooter.

I'd rather keep Oberto and Beno. And Javtokas is comming here and Hunter and Javtokas are very similar players. Both are athletic and tall and limited on the offensive end. I don't think Pop and R.C. have given up on Beno. He should be our backup PG next season.

We don't need an offensive force at center. We need a rebounder, a shot blocker, and someone who will clean up the garbage on the offensive glass.

Hunter is perfect for that role.

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe we can get Stepfanie Kramer as a throw-in, too?

http://www.moviestar-photos.com/graphics/tn/251/251429.jpg

[polandprzem]

gotdamn your old poland.

Yup. Imagine how old is Hunter. :)

Ps. When can you talk?

[strangeweather]

Is there really any chance they really want Beno badly enough to give us Hunter for Beno and Oberto? That sounds completely insane on their end.

[ducks]

if they trade ai then they are rebuilding


they need beno if they trade ai

[Mr. Body]

Excuse me - has anyone addressed that we're trading away our only backup PG? Is this not a concern?

[ducks]

barry used to play point
barry is capable of doing that
and he would know his role would be that and practice that in trainging camp

[strangeweather]

Excuse me - has anyone addressed that we're trading away our only backup PG? Is this not a concern?
Not if we sign someone like Pargo.

[Mr. Body]

People seem too invested in sending off players, here.

We're all pretty happy about trading Barry, too, supposedly our best trading commodity at this point -- it's either one or the other.

[texasqb2]

I am not really thrilled with the idea of trading Beno. I thought he started to turn the corner there late in the season and played pretty good. He is not making any money hardly. He seems as if he is a good teammate. I am not interested in absorbing 4 years of Steven Hunter who is just the same type of player Rasho and Nazr are. I am still holding out hope for a deal that nets us a player like Magloire so we can go out next summer and get us another star. I don't really like the idea of adding a guy just like Javotkas, I'd rather go get a 3 before that. We still have possibly a rotation of Duncan, Bonner, Javotkas, Oberto, and Horry (who I want to trade) at the 4/5.

[SPARKY]

Udrih + Oberto for Hunter would be a bit underwhelming. And it does remove one candidate to handle backup point duties.

I have the feeling that giving up on Udrih now would be a mistake.

[Mr. Body]

Oberto is a far more intelligent basketball player than Hunter. All Hunter seems to have is a better shooting percentage - when he shoots - more NBA experience, better shot-blocking, and a longer contract for more money. He also has the virtue of being young.

Udrih has skills to be a lifelong backup point in this league, despite our being sour on him. Maybe not a championship caliber backup, but that remains to be seen.

Do we want to jettison these two guys for a marginal center like Stephen Hunter?

[ducks]

yes because beno is so important in the playoffs
he played so many minutes

[Mr. Body]

yes because beno is so important in the playoffs
he played so many minutes

What don't you get? He was stuck behind Nick Van Exel - wrongly.

[ducks]

against houston he sucked
therefore he did not get playing time
he can not bring the ball up underpressure
he is like stephen jackson in that reguard
points need to handle the ball
I was for trading beno for jr smith
but now it seems beno may have more value

[Mr. Body]

We'll have faith our Plan B isn't CJ Watson, then.

[SPARKY]

Anyways, this thread is stuck on Hunter...why not Salmons?

[Quadzilla99]

I am lukewarm about this deal, but the centers in the league are so weak now that is somewhat worth it even though I, unlike a lot of people, actually like Beno. Besides who says even if the teams agree the trade will go through? Hunter still has to pass his physical. What's not to say our doctors won't see the same things in the MRI's and X-Rays that scared off NO's doctors.

[Obstructed_View]

You guys realize that Rasho's numbers are better than Hunter's for the same minutes, right?

[Quadzilla99]

You guys realize that Rasho's numbers are better than Hunter's for the same minutes, right?

Yeah I know but we're really dredging the bottom of the barrell for centers here. I am very lukewarm about this deal. Like I posted before this is one of the weakest center eras ever anyway.

[ata]

yes because beno is so important in the playoffs
he played so many minutes
well, he couldn't play any minutes since Nick van Bust played with stellar performance.

[WalterBenitez]

:flipoff hey sixert keep you hands away from Beno ... we want the kid stay in SA

[Obstructed_View]

against houston he sucked
Manu sucked in that game, too. Let's put his ass on the bus. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah I know but we're really dredging the bottom of the barrell for centers here. I am very lukewarm about this deal. Like I posted before this is one of the weakest center eras ever anyway.
I just don't know that Hunter can do anything that Mahinmi or Oberto or Javtokas can't do, and I know there isn't a better backup PG available than what we've got.

[strangeweather]

You know, I think more Beno fans have showed up in this thread today than on the entire board for the last 2 weeks.

[ducks]

so now that the spurs might trade beno everything things he is great?

spurs have not said they would trade him
they have said they wanted a 3 point guard
but knowing the past and with BENO's PLAY HE VERY LIKELY IS GONE

[Obstructed_View]

You know, I think more Beno fans have showed up in this thread today than on the entire board for the last 2 weeks.
Actually, it's just that the vocal group of blind Beno haters haven't gotten up yet. :)

And ducks, my position on the guy hasn't changed. If the Spurs aren't going to play him they should trade him.

[Mr. Body]

I like how if you say trading away Udrih might not be the best idea, you're suddenly the biggest Udrih fan in the world.

[Obstructed_View]

I like how if you say trading away Udrih might not be the best idea, you're suddenly the biggest Udrih fan in the world.
Yeah, if you dare to point out that Udrih scored 34 points in a stretch of three games ending with the infamous HOUSTON game where he turned the ball over one fewer time than Manu did, you are the biggest Udrih fan in the world. :rolleyes

[ObiwanGinobili]

Yup. Imagine how old is Hunter. :)

Ps. When can you talk?

let me turn it on. :oops

[MoSpur]

My dream would to get AI in a Spurs uniform. Not Allen Iverson. The other AI. I doubt it though. I'm crossing my fingers though.

[Obstructed_View]

You mean the good AI. :)

[Quadzilla99]

I just don't know that Hunter can do anything that Mahinmi or Oberto or Javtokas can't do, and I know there isn't a better backup PG available than what we've got.

You're right. Thinking about it now I'm against it but I wouldn't be distraught if it went down like I probably would if some of these other deals did. If his knee does have even a whiff of a problem in our exams like NO said then we should run, not walk away from any deal. He might technically have the athleticism to put on Dirk, but I couldn't even visualize in my dreams him getting anything but abused by Dirk. Of course Dirk could put up 32 a game on him on 57% shooting and wipe his ass with him all over the court and all SH has to do is bother 2 shots in a close game 7 win for the media to talk about his great defense*.

*Any allusions to Disagana Diop are purely intentional.

[Obstructed_View]

Here's the other thing: Bowen guards Dirk. Nobody we sign will guard fucking Dirk. Saying that we need someone to guard Dirk is incorrect, what we need is someone to allow Bowen to STAY on Dirk. We either need someone that will block shots when Harris and Howard blow into the lane or we need someone that can stand out on the perimeter and actually stay in front of them. Shot blockers are easier to find than superb one on one defenders, and the Spurs probably have enough on their roster already to get them by if this is the way they want to play.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I am not interested in absorbing 4 years of Steven Hunter who is just the same type of player Rasho and Nazr are.

Um, Hunter's game is nothing at all like Rasho's or Nazr's.

[Obstructed_View]

Um, Hunter's game is nothing at all like Rasho's or Nazr's.
Yeah, remove the defense and throw in a chronic knee injury and you've got Hunter.

[SPARKY]

Have we reached the point where Steven Hunter looks like a ray of hope?

[Obstructed_View]

Have we reached the point where Steven Hunter looks like a ray of hope?
Where's Mouse's shower rod picture? :lol

[Quadzilla99]

Here's the other thing: Bowen guards Dirk. Nobody we sign will guard fucking Dirk. Saying that we need someone to guard Dirk is incorrect, what we need is someone to allow Bowen to STAY on Dirk. We either need someone that will block shots when Harris and Howard blow into the lane or we need someone that can stand out on the perimeter and actually stay in front of them. Shot blockers are easier to find than superb one on one defenders, and the Spurs probably have enough on their roster already to get them by if this is the way they want to play.

Yeah but if we go that route then we will get pounded on the boards. I'd rather stay big Dirk is going to get his at least we won't get killed on the boards. Besides Dirk averaged 27.1 ppg on 52.7% fg shooting against us. I mean I love Bruce but asking him to guard somebody 6 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier than him is a little much. That's a whole different topic altogether though and Pop seems dead set on using him to guard Dirk.

[FromWayDowntown]

Why focus just on what's on Philly's roster? That Philly is interested in Udrih (allegedly) doesn't necessarily mean that a trade would involve a Philly player coming back to SA -- it could very easily be that Beno fits somewhere in a multi-team deal that moves Iverson. If Iverson is actually traded, I'd suspect that deal will have a ton of moving parts to make everything work out. Or, it could be that the Spurs and Sixers might work out a 3-way deal that has Beno going to Philly, but someone from somewhere else coming to San Antonio.

It's now the season for outside-the-box thinking.

[SPARKY]

Kyle Korver. Doubtful the Sixers let him go but if AI is out then they are blowing up the team. Contract's a little long but he'd give you that automatic shooter from the wing.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah but if we go that route then we will get pounded on the boards. I'd rather stay big Dirk is going to get his at least we won't get killed on the boards. Besides Dirk averaged 27.1 ppg on 52.7% fg shooting against us. I mean I love Bruce but asking him to guard somebody 6 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier than him is a little much. That's a whole different topic altogether though and Pop seems dead set on using him to guard Dirk.
Dirk averaged 27.1 ppg against smallball, not against Bruce. Bruce had to move to cover Howard and Daniels and Harris and whoever else was lighting the Spurs up, plus he had to leave Dirk to try to help when someone blew past their defender. I'm all for a big lineup, but since it's now gone, there isn't anything better out there than what the Spurs already have IMO.

[Obstructed_View]

Kyle Korver. Doubtful the Sixers let him go but if AI is out then they are blowing up the team. Contract's a little long but he'd give you that automatic shooter from the wing.
Yeah, all the Spurs need is ANOTHER three point shooter.

[Obstructed_View]

Why focus just on what's on Philly's roster? That Philly is interested in Udrih (allegedly) doesn't necessarily mean that a trade would involve a Philly player coming back to SA -- it could very easily be that Beno fits somewhere in a multi-team deal that moves Iverson. If Iverson is actually traded, I'd suspect that deal will have a ton of moving parts to make everything work out. Or, it could be that the Spurs and Sixers might work out a 3-way deal that has Beno going to Philly, but someone from somewhere else coming to San Antonio.

It's now the season for outside-the-box thinking.
Wasn't it Boston that was the other team? Who do you want from the Celtics?

[orhe]

we need beno! :)

[angel_luv]

Damn.

Offer anything decent and he is gone.


My Slovenians! Why Pop, why? :depressed

( That's rhetorical- for all you smart alecs here. Oh and for you dumb ones: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/rhetorical )

:pctoss :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss to infinity!

[Tyler Durden]

Spurs should trade for dalembert

[ducks]

HELL NO THEY SHOULD NOT
2011 contract ends
gets paid like wallace to

[Tyler Durden]

we need a young athletic center.....who are we gonna start?? Fabulous??

[SPARKY]

Yeah, all the Spurs need is ANOTHER three point shooter.

What's wrong with that? If you are sending talent out the door then at least get some back. He fits the system.

Not every trade has to perfectly address your needs. That's how you end up doing shitty deals.

[leemajors]

Why focus just on what's on Philly's roster? That Philly is interested in Udrih (allegedly) doesn't necessarily mean that a trade would involve a Philly player coming back to SA -- it could very easily be that Beno fits somewhere in a multi-team deal that moves Iverson. If Iverson is actually traded, I'd suspect that deal will have a ton of moving parts to make everything work out. Or, it could be that the Spurs and Sixers might work out a 3-way deal that has Beno going to Philly, but someone from somewhere else coming to San Antonio.

It's now the season for outside-the-box thinking.

ding ding ding! i thought my earlier post was gonna be the only one mentioning that.

[FromWayDowntown]

Wasn't it Boston that was the other team? Who do you want from the Celtics?

I don't know that you can assume that an Iverson deal would just be a three-teamer with BOS-PHIL-SA. In the original deal, there was no mention of SA, and if the interest in Beno has something to do with an Iverson deal, then things have clearly changed.

If the supposed interest in Beno is completely independent of a deal involving Iverson, it would probably be fairly easy to bring in other teams to make a deal work out -- particularly if the Sixers have something that a third team wants and the Spurs desire something from that third team.

I'm not trying to really propose possibilities, other than the possiblity that a deal that would send Beno to Philly might not result in the Spurs taking back a player off the current Sixers' roster.

[Slinkyman]

Beno, Oberto for Aston Kutcher

[SPARKY]

Well, it's not like the Sixers are the only team to express interest in Udrih. And it's not like Hunter was even rumored to be a Spurs' target...

[mardigan]

There is an ESPN NBA insider report on Beano saying some teams are expressing intrest that was put up today. If anyone has insider would they please post what the article says

[SA210]

No, keep Beno!

[Slinkyman]

Udrih Draws Interest
Jul 5 - The Philadelphia Daily News reports a source indicated that the Sixers are among several teams to have contacted San Antonio about possibly trading for point guard Beno Udrih.

[ducks]

I thought boston was not so willing to trade for ai now...

[SPARKY]

Udrih Draws Interest
Jul 5 - The Philadelphia Daily News reports a source indicated that the Sixers are among several teams to have contacted San Antonio about possibly trading for point guard Beno Udrih.

And we are back to where the thread started.

[Kori Ellis]

There is an ESPN NBA insider report on Beano saying some teams are expressing intrest that was put up today. If anyone has insider would they please post what the article says


No article. Just this same thing:
Udrih Draws Interest
Jul 5 - The Philadelphia Daily News reports a source indicated that the Sixers are among several teams to have contacted San Antonio about possibly trading for point guard Beno Udrih.

[mardigan]

That is why I dont pay for stupid ass insider, I think this site probably knows more

[Slinkyman]

And we are back to where the thread started.

:lol someone wanted the espn insider posted

[Slinkyman]

That is why I dont pay for stupid ass insider, I think this site probably knows more

it does suck, i just signed up for the free month trial but i'm not keeping it after that. Espn charges for insider but you get basicly the same thing at hoopshype for free.

[mardigan]

It was me, I didnt realize it would be the same thing

[SA210]

We shouldn't give up on Beno yet, he's young, cheap, has a good jumper and he can run the floor well with Manu, Tony, Finley and Brent. Give him a real chance. .

I think people are being too hard on him. He was a rookie. And this year he wasn't given much a chance because we needed Van Exel's brilliance instead :rolleyes.

Let's keep him.

[mardigan]

I think that if we dont see any improvment next year, then we have to give up, but I agree that he deserves at least one season with minutes to see what he can do. UNless we get a sweet trade offer

[furry_spurry]

Play him-- or trade him-- make up your mind. Just don't sit him there another year.

His option has to be picked up by October or he is a free agent next summer.

[angel_luv]

I wonder what Pop, R.C. and company are plotting. :oops


I really hope we keep Beno.

[MoSpur]

A three-way deal could also be done. AI to Boston, Beno to Sixers, Gerald Green to the Spurs. < Dreaming.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Atlanta is also interested in AI, maybe we could pry one of their SFs away in a trade.

[furry_spurry]

The Spurs have a few players they want to keep and are open to getting rid of the rest. They always have been. The tenure of most players on the Spurs is short- with just a few who are here for a length of time. It would amaze you if you sat down and listed every player who has been on the Spurs in the past 3 or 4 seasons.

If the interest in Beno can be used to get some team to take Brent's contract for an expiring contract, they will do it. The chances of just a direct trade of Beno alone seem more unlikely because he is still cheap and his deal is up next summer if they don't pick up the option. But don't be surprised, the Spurs have initiated an attempt to trade Beno before.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Just do that Oberto+Beno for Hunter deal. Then we get CJ Watson plus a veteran point guard.

[Buddy Holly]

Why not a three team trade involving Philly and Chicago.

Beno-Oberto-Scola's rights from SA
Kyle Korver-Steven Hunter from Philly
Tyson Chandler-Malik Allen from Chicago

Beno and Malik Allen go to Philly.
Kyle Korver and Tyson Chandler to SA.
Steven Hunter, Oberto, and Scola to Chicago.

[angel_luv]

Kover? They would give him up?

[Streakyshooter08]

Atlanta is also interested in AI, maybe we could pry one of their SFs away in a trade.

Do we have ANY players they might be interested in?

[Buddy Holly]

Kover? They would give him up?

To get Beno. :lol

Come on, it worked on RealGM!

[angel_luv]

To get Beno. :lol

Come on, it worked on RealGM!


:rolleyes :lol

Nobody can have Beno but us.

Just say no to Beno trades, Pop.

Por Favor! Prosim! Please! etc, etc.

[Buddy Holly]

Maybe instead of giving Chicago the rights to Scola, you give it to Philly.

[Buddy Holly]

You could also throw Barry into that trade and send him to Chicago.

Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Korver
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Chandler/Javtokas

[MaNu4Tres]

Chicago would never do that trade for chandler, when they can get pj brown and jr smith from new orleans.

[Buddy Holly]

Steven Hunter, Barry, Scola > PJ Brown and JR. Smith

[Supergirl]

You could also throw Barry into that trade and send him to Philly.

Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Korver
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Chandler/Javtokas

NO NO NO to Chandler. There's a reason why Chicago wants to dump him. He's too injury prone.

Since when is Philly looking to trade Korver? Since when is he considered a SF who could back up Bowen? Since when do the Spurs need another 3 point shooter?

[sendman]

against houston he sucked
therefore he did not get playing time
he can not bring the ball up underpressure
he is like stephen jackson in that reguard
points need to handle the ball
I was for trading beno for jr smith
but now it seems beno may have more value

And NVE sucked against everyone else. So what is your point?

[Streakyshooter08]

You could also throw Barry into that trade and send him to Philly.

Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Korver
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Chandler/Javtokas

:tu

But I don't think that there is a chance that Chandler will end up here. He is on his way to NO. I could imagine that the Spurs try to get J.R. in some kind of combination out of that trade (if Chi really does not want him) other than that I don't believe SA is involved in that trade scenario.

[Buddy Holly]

NO NO NO to Chandler. There's a reason why Chicago wants to dump him. He's too injury prone.

Speedy was injury prone, Beno was injury prone.


Since when is Philly looking to trade Korver? Since when is he considered a SF who could back up Bowen? Since when do the Spurs need another 3 point shooter?

Since when was he considered a SF? Since he entered the league.

And when can;t you can't you have enough three point shooters?

[Buddy Holly]

Revised trade:

Beno-Oberto-Barry-Scola's rights from SA
Kyle Korver-Steven Hunter from Philly
Tyson Chandler-Malik Allen from Chicago
PJ Brown-JR Smith from New Orleans

Beno, Oberto, JR Smith go to Philly.
Kyle Korver and Tyson Chandler to SA.
PJ Brown, Barry, and Scola to Chicago.
Steven Hunter, Malik Allen to New Orleans

[strangeweather]

Wasn't it Boston that was the other team? Who do you want from the Celtics?
I don't know if the Celtics would really be the other team, but any chance we could pry loose Gerald Green?

[Mr. Body]

No.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

you want Beno, I'll give youe Beno


FOR AI2!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MaNu4Tres]

Steven Hunter, Barry, Scola > PJ Brown and JR. Smith


Steven Hunter didn't pass a physical to go to New Orleans last year but he still would be the best out of the three, Scola hasn't stepped foot in the NBA and obviously spurs officials don't even think scola is worth 4 million. Barry is 35 years old and no longer can put the ball on the floor, but hes a good spot up set three point shooter......

PJ Brown is a more consistant big than Steven Hunter, although he lacks the athletic ability, a huge asset with Brown is that his 8 million dollar contract expires after this year. With the signing of Ben Wallace to a 58 million dollar deal, Bulls will have 8 million coming off the books to resign hinrich, gordon, deng, nocioni to extentions. Thats why PJ brown is so VALUABLE more so over any of the 3 listed in your biased trade proposal for spurs gettin chandler. Add in J.R. Smith, you get an athletic 6'6" freak who can not only shoot the 3, but that can put the ball on the floor and finish with authority around the rim.

PJ brown, JR smith>>>>>> Scola Barry Hunter or w/e

common guys

[ChumpDumper]

I like Hunter, but so does Mo. I'm sure the Sixers are thinking more along the lines of Randolph or Louis Williams and a second rounder.

Beno and Oberto for a starting center?

You guys hit the pipe early today, it'll look great to me when i come back from the bar tonight.

[MaNu4Tres]

the PJ brown/ Jr smith for Tyson Chandler has been a trade rumor for weeks, and its also the headline on espn.com/nba/.....so obviously its on the verge to going down...

so buddy holly ur biased trade proposals can go down the drain

spurs don't have many trade assets ...besides barry beno and oberto

[Buddy Holly]

the PJ brown/ Jr smith for Tyson Chandler has been a trade rumor for weeks, and its also the headline on espn.com/nba/.....so obviously its on the verge to going down...

so buddy holly ur biased trade proposals can go down the drain

My biased trade proposals?

Yes the rumored trade has been in the air for awhile but that doesn't mean the Spurs and Sixers couldn't get involved.

But what does it matter, in the end its just my idea.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Do we have ANY players they might be interested in?

The whole point was us getting in on an Atlanta - Philly trade, and sending some parts out and getting back a long SF out of the deal. Atlanta would be getting AI, that's what they're interested in.

[MaNu4Tres]

lol i would hope bulls would want beno barry and oberto for chandler, or somethin along those lines to get him. But realistically there's no chance. Especially when Bulls have two point guards already in Hinrich and Duhon, since Beno would be the most valuable trade bait due to his diminutive contract and his ability.

[Mr. Body]

CHANDLER IS A VERY BAD IDEA.

He's too expensive and his production is not that great. And he's injury prone and may even have a shortened career because of it.

[YamaSama]

I like Hunter, but so does Mo. I'm sure the Sixers are thinking more along the lines of Randolph or Louis Williams and a second rounder.

Beno and Oberto for a starting center?

You guys hit the pipe early today, it'll look great to me when i come back from the bar tonight.

It's not really such a long shot - the Sixers were willing to trade Hunter for two 2nd round picks before he failed the Hornets' physical. Beno, Oberto, and possibly a 2nd round pick may be more than enough.

[Buddy Holly]

If you go for a three team Spurs-Philly-Hawks trade.

Beno-Oberto-Barry-Scola
Allen Iverson-Kyle Korver-Steven Hunter
Joe Johnson-Josh Smith

Beno, Oberto, Scola, Joe Johnson to the Sixers
Allen Iverson, Kyle Krover, Barry to the Hawks.
Josh Smith, Steven Hunter to the Spurs.


Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Josh Smith
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Steven Hunter/Javtokas

[Streakyshooter08]

If you go for a three team Spurs-Philly-Hawks trade.

Beno-Oberto-Barry-Scola
Allen Iverson-Kyle Korver-Steven Hunter
Joe Johnson-Josh Smith

Beno, Oberto, Scola, Joe Johnson to the Sixers
Allen Iverson, Kyle Krover, Barry to the Hawks.
Josh Smith, Steven Hunter to the Spurs.


Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Josh Smith
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Steven Hunter/Javtokas

That would be wonderful... the bad news... it won't happen. The Hawks won't trade Smith and JJ. Cool idea though... add Barnes, Sanders, Pargo and you are set...

Tony/ Pargo/ 3rd PG
Manu/ Finley/ Sanders
Bowen/ Smith/ Barnes
Tim/ Horry/ Bonner
Hunter/ Javtokas

Way too good to be true... :(

[Buddy Holly]

If they want Iverson they'll have to.

[bdictjames]

How about Brent + Beno = Dalembert. That would certainly help out a lot

[ChumpDumper]

Dalembert makes alot more than that.

A Hunter deal all depends on how the Sixers feel about Dalembert AND Hunter now. Those feelings may have changed since they last tried to unload Hunter.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If you go for a three team Spurs-Philly-Hawks trade.

Beno-Oberto-Barry-Scola
Allen Iverson-Kyle Korver-Steven Hunter
Joe Johnson-Josh Smith

Beno, Oberto, Scola, Joe Johnson to the Sixers
Allen Iverson, Kyle Krover, Barry to the Hawks.
Josh Smith, Steven Hunter to the Spurs.


Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Josh Smith
Tim/Horry/Bonner
Steven Hunter/Javtokas
Could this deal really work???

[Buddy Holly]

Could this deal really work???

Yep.

[Buddy Holly]

Tony/???
Manu/Finley
Bowen/Smith/Williams
Tim/Jeffies/Horry/Bonner
Hunter/Javtokas/Marks

[Budkin]

Man I don't know about giving up Beno for Steven Hunter. I'm a Magic fan too and he was absolutely terrible for them. I know he picked it up a bit with Phoenix and Philly but Beno is a great backup PG IMO. I don't think I'd do that deal.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Iverson for Parker and Beno


that's AT LEAST 3 more titles

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I would do it if we're bringing in a Pargo type PG to fill the void...

The Barry at point expirement has failed miserably. We need a solid backup PG...

[ChumpDumper]

The Barry at point expirement has failed miserably.:wtf

You mean the 2005 Finals was a miserable failure?

We haven't tried it since.

[ducks]

Iverson for Parker and Beno


that's AT LEAST 3 more titles
:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes



you don't think AI+DUncan= titles?



maybe you missed how good AI still is last season

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:wtf

You mean the 2005 Finals was a miserable failure?

We haven't tried it since.

I don't remember if he played it at times throughout the game, but generally speaking the past 2 seasons when we've tried to play him at point he's forgotten how to dribble penetrate.


Didn't Manu play the point more in that series, when TP was having problems?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Iverson for Parker and Beno


that's AT LEAST 3 more titles

Iverson + Any other superstar = Disaster


The guy cannot play with another player of his skill level. Give him some Tyrone Hill's and he's good to go.

[gregpschneid]

Beno is so underrated here. He is one of the best passers in the league.

[gregpschneid]

Iverson for Parker and Beno


that's AT LEAST 3 more titles


Iverson really helpe the US team in 2004 :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Beno is so underrated here. He is one of the best passers in the league.

Beno is not a bad player at all.

It's just, with TP...we need a certain type of presence off the bench. Beno is not that.

[ducks]

iverson was one main reason the usa DID SO WELL

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Iverson really helpe the US team in 2004 :lol

Am I missing something...

I thought he DID help them. In fact, when he was left off this olympics, a lot of people questioned it because he was one of the few players who really showed up and played hard the last time around.

[gregpschneid]

he does well, what does the team do. He is the main reason why US basketball struggles.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

he does well, what does the team do. He is the main reason why US basketball struggles.

Ok. :elephant

[gregpschneid]

If they had jason kidd instead of iverson they would have won.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

If they had jason kidd instead of iverson they would have won.

Ok. :elephant

[gregpschneid]

Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
May 09 vs. Mavericks PLF 91-113 L 11 2-8 0-1 3-4 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 2 7
May 05 at Kings PLF 105-83 W 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Apr 30 at Kings PLF 84-102 L 14 3-10 1-2 1-1 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 8
Apr 28 at Kings PLF 93-94 L 10 3-8 0-3 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 4 6
Apr 22 vs. Kings PLF 122-88 W 9 2-4 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 4 0 0 0 1 4
Apr 19 at Rockets 89-87 W 28 2-7 0-1 5-6 0 1 1 2 1 0 2 1 9
Apr 17 vs. Jazz 115-82 W 15 4-7 0-0 2-2 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 10
Apr 16 at Timberwolves 103-90 W 22 5-9 2-2 3-4 0 1 1 4 1 0 4 4 15
Apr 13 vs. Magic 80-92 L 6 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Apr 11 vs. SuperSonics 104-95 W 4 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 1 0
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Mar 28 at Clippers 98-87 W 13 2-5 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 3 0 0 2 2 4
Mar 26 at SuperSonics 102-106 L 11 2-7 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 5
Mar 24 at Trail Blazers 98-79 W 19 4-6 0-1 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 2 1 8
Mar 22 at Nuggets 92-104 L 13 0-4 0-1 0-0 2 0 2 5 0 0 0 2 0
Mar 21 vs. Warriors 107-96 W 15 5-8 1-4 2-2 1 1 2 0 1 0 0 2 13
Mar 18 at Rockets 92-77 W 30 3-8 1-2 2-2 0 3 3 3 0 0 2 1 9
Mar 17 vs. Suns 108-102 W 15 3-8 0-2 0-0 1 0 1 1 0 0 2 5 6
Mar 14 vs. Hornets 96-81 W 18 3-6 1-3 3-4 1 1 2 2 1 1 4 1 10
Mar 12 vs. Rockets 88-81 W 16 4-7 2-2 0-1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 10
Mar 10 vs. Lakers 92-100 L 18 4-7 2-4 0-0 0 2 2 2 1 0 0 1 10
Mar 09 at Suns 117-93 W 23 6-10 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 4 0 0 0 3 13
Mar 07 at Clippers 85-98 L 26 6-10 0-2 0-0 0 2 2 2 1 0 0 1 12
Mar 04 vs. Trail Blazers 101-81 W 18 5-9 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 1 11
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Feb 27 vs. Knicks 121-93 W 15 3-7 2-5 0-0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 2 8
Feb 25 vs. Warriors 92-75 W 2 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Feb 24 at Grizzlies 83-80 W 14 2-8 0-3 1-2 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 5
Feb 21 vs. SuperSonics 103-78 W 13 3-4 1-2 0-0 1 1 2 2 1 0 1 1 7
Feb 13 at Cavaliers 87-101 L 9 4-4 3-3 1-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 12
Feb 08 at Raptors 125-118 W 10 2-3 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 2 1 0 1 1 4
Feb 02 at Warriors 89-86 W 16 1-4 0-1 0-0 0 2 2 6 0 0 2 1 2
Feb 01 at Trail Blazers 86-82 W 14 2-5 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 4
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Jan 30 at Jazz 79-70 W 15 4-9 2-4 0-0 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 1 10
Jan 28 vs. Timberwolves 102-88 W 1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
Jan 25 at Hornets 84-68 W 8 1-3 0-1 2-2 2 1 3 2 0 0 1 1 4
Jan 24 vs. Bobcats 104-76 W 24 7-11 1-3 2-2 1 2 3 8 1 0 2 2 17
Jan 16 at Grizzlies 93-83 W 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jan 12 vs. Pistons 68-83 L 2 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
Jan 04 vs. Trail Blazers 106-75 W 6 1-2 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 3 0 0 1 0 4
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Dec 31 at Nuggets 98-88 W 13 2-4 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 5 4
Dec 29 vs. Hornets 111-84 W 15 3-5 2-2 0-0 0 3 3 3 1 0 2 1 8
Dec 27 vs. Pacers 99-86 W 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dec 25 at Pistons 70-85 L 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0
Dec 21 at Knicks 109-96 W 12 2-5 0-1 3-4 1 0 1 2 0 0 3 1 7
Dec 18 at Hornets 76-89 L 5 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
Dec 10 at Hawks 84-94 L 10 0-4 0-2 0-0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
Dec 09 vs. Celtics 101-89 W 1 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Dec 07 vs. Heat 98-84 W 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dec 05 at Magic 110-85 W 8 2-3 1-1 2-3 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 7
Dec 03 vs. Sixers 100-91 W 2 1-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Nov 23 at Warriors 113-89 W 15 2-4 0-0 5-5 0 1 1 3 0 0 2 1 9
Nov 19 vs. Suns 97-91 W 7 0-2 0-2 2-2 2 1 3 3 1 0 0 2 2
Nov 17 vs. Rockets 86-80 W 7 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0
Nov 15 vs. Hawks 103-79 W 9 2-6 0-1 1-2 2 0 2 4 0 0 0 1 5
Nov 12 at Wizards 95-110 L 3 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2
Nov 11 at Celtics 103-82 W 4 1-4 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Nov 09 at Bobcats 94-86 W 5 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
Nov 05 at Mavericks 84-103 L 4 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
Nov 04 vs. Cavaliers 102-76 W 6 1-1 0-0 1-2 0 1 1 2 1 0 2 0 3
REBOUNDS
Date Opp Result Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST ST BL TO PF PTS
Oct 25 vs. Pacers PRE 86-97 L 6 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Oct 20 at Hornets PRE 97-90 W 25 4-5 1-1 5-5 0 1 1 5 0 0 2 0 14
Oct 18 at Pacers PRE 81-94 L 16 1-7 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 4 1 0 3 1 2
Oct 15 vs. Rockets PRE 87-95 L 9 3-4 0-1 0-0 0 3 3 2 0 0 2 0 6
Oct 13 vs. Wizards PRE 91-95 L 27 6-10 3-4 5-6 0 2 2 2 2 0 2 1 20
Oct 12 at Sixers PRE 88-100 L 11 1-2 0-0 1-1 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 3
Oct 10 at Heat PRE 101-103 L 5 1-4 0-0 4-6 0 1 1 2 3 0 0 0 6


If you look at Beno's game by game stats last year he was very productive when given around 10 to 20 minutes. Not saying it wouldn't be a good trade for steven hunter though. But we would miss Beno.

[E20]

Isn't Pop satified with what he has at the back up PG slot?

[ChumpDumper]

Isn't Pop satified with what he has at the back up PG slot?What ever gave you that impression?

[E20]

He said so in an article that I read on this board.

[picnroll]

What ever gave you that impression?
Probably the fact that Pop's tried to get Nelson, Jack and reportely Rojon.

[timvp]

If the Spurs can get a decent backup point, Beno is on the first bus to whoever wants him.

[Mr. Body]

Strange, Beno is a decent backup point.

[Kori Ellis]

Strange, Beno is a decent backup point.

I think Beno is decent too (but obviously has his faults).

However I don't think the Spurs have much confidence in him. So unless something drastically changes in that regard, it's probably best to let him move on elsewhere.

[timvp]

Pop likes tough players. Beno is anti-tough.

[El_Mago]

Tell Philly to sign up John Salmons, and send him over here for Beno.

[furry_spurry]

What ever gave you that impression?
I think the Spurs are satisfied with the salary they are paying the back-up point guard. Given that previous attempts to bring in a veteran PG for the back-up has not worked so well, they will go back to using a cheap young guy.

[Buddy Holly]

Pop likes tough players. Beno is anti-tough.

But he drove to Rasho's town in the middle of god knows where to sign Rasho on July 1st.

[ChumpDumper]

At least Rasho dislocated Kobe's shoulder. That was worth a year's salary right there.

[ata]

If the Spurs can get a decent backup point, Beno is on the first bus to whoever wants him.

Beno is more than decent backup PG. If you would pull your head out of Nick van Bust's ass, you'd notice.

That said, I doubt that Pop trust Beno, and the best thing for Beno would be trade. He is too good to be benchwarmer for 2nd straight season.

[velik_m]

I think Beno is decent too (but obviously has his faults).

However I don't think the Spurs have much confidence in him. So unless something drastically changes in that regard, it's probably best to let him move on elsewhere.

i agree, there is no point in having a player you don't have confidence in. Beno should be traded.

[Mr. Body]

I think Beno is decent too (but obviously has his faults).

However I don't think the Spurs have much confidence in him. So unless something drastically changes in that regard, it's probably best to let him move on elsewhere.

No; once you're in Pop's doghouse, you never come out. It's the Bottomless Doghouse.

Beno is a great career backup, to me. Borderline starter. His problem is in application. He's still the 23 year old kid who doesn't want to work hard, gets by on his talent, wants to sleep late, etc. I don't think we doubt if he turns that corner he could be very good.

I certainly hope he does that here, but it looks like he needs a shock before that happens, and he goes elsewhere, figures out how good he had it, works to get back there.

[Slomo]

But he drove to Rasho's town in the middle of god knows where to sign Rasho on July 1st.If you want I can post some pictures, so that you can impress little boys on your Backstreet Boys forum :flipoff

[Leetonidas]

If you want I can post some pictures, so that you can impress little boys on your Backstreet Boys forum :flipoff

:lmao

[furry_spurry]

But he drove to Rasho's town in the middle of god knows where to sign Rasho on July 1st.
Learn something-- it will do you some good.
http://www.ljubljana.si/en/ljubljana/

[velik_m]

Ah, Ljubljana - the swamp.

[Buddy Holly]

Learn something-- it will do you some good.
http://www.ljubljana.si/en/ljubljana/

Dude, I was only fucking. Everyone knows where Lhjhfiuofdfdik is.

[dbestpro]

Parker stayed in Pop's dog house for the first few years and so did Ginobilli. I think it is Pops connect to the military as he always makes a player pay his dues before letting them open up. Udrih is the real deal and probably is the best shooter on the Spurs. When Pop did a video clinic for shooting he choose Beno because his shooting mechanics are flawless. Beno is wanted by several teams because he is a starter waiting to happen. It will be very hard to get adequate value in return because his salary is also low. Beno is the real deal.

[Solid D]

Dude, I was only ****ing. Everyone knows where Lhjhfiuofdfdik is.

Meaningless without land plattes and census numbers.

[Buddy Holly]

Meaningless without land plattes and census numbers.

I agree.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Beno is too slow and his arms too stubby to be considered starting material. He would have to really dedicate himself to maximizing his conditioning and I don't know if he's willing to do that.

He is great shooter and good distributor, but still too suspect to back- and midcourt pressure. That is without a doubt his biggest problem with Pop -- but you have to understand this has been the problem with most of Tony's backups. If Pop didn't care about that, Jason Hart would still be here.

[ducks]

Who?

[1Parker1]

I wish the Sixers would want Parker instead :depressed :lol

[ducks]

sixers have no one good enough to give up parker for

[Mr. Body]

Parker would have to be Iguodala + somebody as good as Iguodala.

[1Parker1]

sixers have no one good enough to give up parker for

AI? :angel

:lol I was only kidding by the way, I know it's not going to happen....

[ShoogarBear]

I don't think Eva would like cold weather cities, anyway.

[1Parker1]

I don't think Eva would like cold weather cities, anyway.

Ahhh, that's part of my master plan :devil

[lilmads]

^:lol

[ducks]

banks would want to start

[MoSpur]

Eddie House????

[dbestpro]

Several teams asking Spurs about Beno Udrih
SpursReport
Wednesday, July 05, 2006



There have now been several reports that the Spurs may be exploring trade options which involve backup point guard Beno Udrih.

It is already known that the Spurs have been calling around asking to see if anyone will take Brent Barry and/or the draft rights to Luis Scola (no takers so far), but several teams teams have contacted the Spurs' front office about the availability of Udrih.

The Spurs, who just missed out on (veteran point guard) Speedy Claxton after he bolted from the Hornets to sign with the Hawks, have gotten calls from teams like the Sixers.

So far nothing to report other than some chatter.

Udrih's stock has risen everywhere since being drafted by the Spurs in 2004. How the Spurs feel about him seems a question mark, however. Although he played well in limited minutes, he spent most of the playoffs on the bench behind Nick Van Exel.

After a European career in which he battled injuries and agent problems, Udrih was off the radar for most NBA teams prior to the 2004 draft, but he could be a starter for several young teams today.

Udrih, who worked out for as many as nine teams before the Spurs drafted him in the first round, is well known by NBA front offices and many feel he could shine in the league given more minutes on the floor.

"That the Spurs were trying to land Speedy Claxton tells you that they may not have the confidence in Udrih that some may think," said one NBA executive who spoke on condition of anonymity. "But there is no doubt that other teams would love to have him. Especially given his speed and passing ability."

[ChumpDumper]

So far nothing to report other than some chatter.Thank God they've confirmed this breaking nonstory.

[leemajors]

his speed?

[coachmac87]

why does anyone like oberto??? name something he did for us last year....the trade would bascially be a beno for hunter...thats a no brainer to me...we can get another pg or use barry.... and oberto to me takes up a roster spot...and that spot could be for marks or for mr. jeffries

[furry_spurry]

Who ever confirmed that the Spurs made any real attempt at Speedy??

[Kori Ellis]

Who ever confirmed that the Spurs made any real attempt at Speedy??

I don't think they did. They might have called his agent and said, "Will he come here for really cheap? No? Okay, good luck."

I don't think they ever had any intention of spending the MLE on a backup point.

[gameFACE]

He said so in an article that I read on this board.
Are you referring to this article: Finding backup point guard becomes Popovich's priority (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA052406.10C.BKNspurs.notebook.172f41e2.html)
Classic Pop in that article. Neither here nor there. You can read it both ways. I read it as not favorable to Beno but he's an option.

I like the Hunter trade. He was discussed here last summer or before the trade deadline. He's no more or less consistent than Nazr but he's younger and is a legitimate 7 footer. Maybe he could learn help defense. He gave the Spurs a tough time during the '05 Spurs/Suns series.

[ChumpDumper]

We've got to make a decision in that situation. "Are we going to give the ball to Beno and say, 'Go ahead, young man. It's yours?' or are we going to look around? What are we going to do?That still cracks me up. He ends up asking the same question he was asked.

Maybe we'll know by the time we play Houston in the preseason....

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Players of intrique on the Sixers:

+ Matt Barnes
+ Willie Green
+ Steven Hunter
+ Webber




http://www.nba.com/sixers/roster/

[loveforthegame]

Does Kevin Ollie have anything left?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Does Kevin Ollie have anything left?

That's a negative.

[loveforthegame]

That's a negative.

I figured. I was just asking cause not much to work with on the Philly roster.

[Spurs16212]

Who are the other teams interested other than Phily?

[Horry For 3!]

Players of intrique on the Sixers:

+ Matt Barnes
+ Willie Green
+ Steven Hunter
+ Webber




http://www.nba.com/sixers/roster/
Chris Webber? :lol

Matt Barnes is a FA, so is Willie Green but Sixers are trying to sign him, they threw some deal at him.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Chris Webber? :lol

Matt Barnes is a FA, so is Willie Green but Sixers are trying to sign him, they threw some deal at him.

:D

I had to throw that in.

You know, I would not mind him on this team. At his age he can't play too many minutes which is ideal if you want to bring a Javtokas along as well as give Horry minutes.



I tell you, at the right price I would take C.Webb for 2-3 years.

[Spurs16212]

Milwaukee may be in the hunt for a point guard now that TJ Ford is gone. Why not give up Beno + Barry + Williams for Jamaal Maglorie and Charlie Villanueva. Maglorie would be our starting center and Villanueva would be a solid backup to Tim and maglorie. This will allow us to save Horry for the playoffs. We would still have the MLE and I believe we should consider Bonzi Wells and have Manu share minutes at the point with Tony. We should still have Sanders on the roster and I believe Watson will join the Spurs this season as well as Javtokas.

C - Javtokas, Maglorie, Horry
PF - Duncan, Villanueva
SF - Bowen, Sanders, Wells
SG - Finley, Wells, Ginobili
PG - Parker, Ginobili, Watson

[MannyIsGod]

Milwaukee may be in the hunt for a point guard now that TJ Ford is gone. Why not give up Beno + Barry + Williams for Jamaal Maglorie and Charlie Villanueva. Maglorie would be our starting center and Villanueva would be a solid backup to Tim and maglorie. This will allow us to save Horry for the playoffs. We would still have the MLE and I believe we should consider Bonzi Wells and have Manu share minutes at the point with Tony. We should still have Sanders on the roster and I believe Watson will join the Spurs this season as well as Javtokas.

C - Javtokas, Maglorie, Horry
PF - Duncan, Villanueva
SF - Bowen, Sanders, Wells
SG - Finley, Wells, Ginobili
PG - Parker, Ginobili, WatsonI wonder what the ISP in fantasy land is.

[Spurs16212]

Just a thought.......

[Kori Ellis]

Why not give up Beno + Barry + Williams for Jamaal Maglorie and Charlie Villanueva.

:lmao :lmao :lmao The Bucks aren't crazy.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I wish the Sixers would want Parker instead :depressed :lol

Blasphemy!! :nope :devil

[Obstructed_View]

Who are the other teams interested other than Phily?
It might have been someone in the Spurs FO saying "yeah, we've had a bunch of teams asking about him" trying to generate some interest to get the price up.

[dimsah]

I live about 30 miles west of Philly, and I can tell you that I don't know a single Sixer fan that likes Hunter. I guess if you just wanted to get another 7 footer to replace the one you just lost then he's there for the taking, but I don't see how he makes the Spurs better than last year.

[Spurs16212]

Good point....

[itzsoweezee]

I live about 30 miles west of Philly, and I can tell you that I don't know a single Sixer fan that likes Hunter. I guess if you just wanted to get another 7 footer to replace the one you just lost then he's there for the taking, but I don't see how he makes the Spurs better than last year.

yup. both nazr and rasho are better than fucking steven hunter. the spurs need a big man that can play defense, something hunter knows nothing about.

[Obstructed_View]

Steven Hunter had a couple of moments against the Spurs in the WCF, and people think that means he has potential. See Nazr to the Pistons for reference.

[infinite styles]

The other teams interested in Beno are the Slovenian National Team, the Austin Toros, and John Jay HS.

[Spurs16212]

Verry Funny... :lol :lol :lol

[SenorSpur]

Several teams asking Spurs about Beno Udrih
SpursReport
Wednesday, July 05, 2006



There have now been several reports that the Spurs may be exploring trade options which involve backup point guard Beno Udrih.

It is already known that the Spurs have been calling around asking to see if anyone will take Brent Barry and/or the draft rights to Luis Scola (no takers so far), but several teams teams have contacted the Spurs' front office about the availability of Udrih.

Another indication that whatever tradeable assets the Spurs think they have, those assets are not highly regarded by the majority of the league's execs. A factor that will make it difficult to fill the team's needs via trade.

Trading Beno will create a void at backup PG. IMO, Hunter is way athletic but is a downgrade from Nazr.

[Buddy Holly]

Another indication that whatever tradeable assets the Spurs think they have, those assets are not highly regarded by the majority of the league's execs. A factor that will make it difficult to fill the team's needs via trade.

Trading Beno will create a void at backup PG. IMO, Hunter is way athletic but is a downgrade from Nazr.


Yeah, you just posted an article from SpursReport.com

Believe nothing those jackasses say. They just ripped off the Philly paper and added their own commentary.

[Horry For 3!]

Milwaukee may be in the hunt for a point guard now that TJ Ford is gone. Why not give up Beno + Barry + Williams for Jamaal Maglorie and Charlie Villanueva. Maglorie would be our starting center and Villanueva would be a solid backup to Tim and maglorie. This will allow us to save Horry for the playoffs. We would still have the MLE and I believe we should consider Bonzi Wells and have Manu share minutes at the point with Tony. We should still have Sanders on the roster and I believe Watson will join the Spurs this season as well as Javtokas.

C - Javtokas, Maglorie, Horry
PF - Duncan, Villanueva
SF - Bowen, Sanders, Wells
SG - Finley, Wells, Ginobili
PG - Parker, Ginobili, Watson
WTF :lmao How the fuck are we going to get Villanueva and Wells if we have no money???

Also how in the hell is Ginobili a 3rd string SG and back-up PG? :lmao

[Spurs16212]

I didn't place them in order of strings. I was just placing names in the positions they would play.

This trade worked on realgm.com and I know Milwaukee is looking to unload Maglorie and I added another name with him (villanueva). Barry and Beno would compliment Michael Reed and their contracts would expire soon along with Williams. Sweeten the deal with the rights to Scola. Maglorie's contract will expire after this year and we should be under the cap for next summer.

Bonzi Wells would come in if he is willing to receive the MLE

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I didn't place them in order of strings. I was just placing names in the positions they would play.

This trade worked on realgm.com and I know Milwaukee is looking to unload Maglorie and I added another name with him (villanueva). Barry and Beno would compliment Michael Reed and their contracts would expire soon along with Williams. Sweeten the deal with the rights to Scola. Maglorie's contract will expire after this year and we should be under the cap for next summer.

Bonzi Wells would come in if he is willing to receive the MLE

A lot of stuff "would work".

Not a lot would 'make sense' though.

[Leetonidas]

:D

I had to throw that in.

You know, I would not mind him on this team. At his age he can't play too many minutes which is ideal if you want to bring a Javtokas along as well as give Horry minutes.



I tell you, at the right price I would take C.Webb for 2-3 years.

Chris Webber has 2 years on his contract worth about 40 million.

[rayray2k8]

:lmao :lmao :lmao The Bucks aren't crazy.
I bet you Isiah Thomas would do it since he loves having a team full of guards. :rolleyes