A Scanner Darkly

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This movie's coming out soon, based on sci fi master Philip K Dick's novel.

If it turns out to be good, Keanu Reaves has cemented himself as the current Eastwood of Sci Fi. I think it looks fucking tight, will be a great stoner movie at the very least. But I am not looking forward to the mandatory ten ripoffs of the animation technique if this movie becomes a success.



Haven't read the novel yet, but word is that its one of Phil's best. Addresses many themes (like constant surveillance, etc) that are present 30 years after he wrote it.


One last thing...is it me or is Winona Ryder getting 33% hotter in every movie?


http://wip.warnerbros.com/ascannerdarkly/

[scott]

Its about fucking time... I remember seeing previews for this movie 2 years ago. Unfortunately, Charles Schwab already ripped off the animation technique in some oddly misguided attempt to get us to buy... mutual funds?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yeah--this isn't the first movie to use that technique (wtf is the name?), but it will definitely be the biggest draw using it.

They have been working on this movie since 2001 i think

[Cant_Be_Faded]

One last thing...is it me or is Winona Ryder getting 33% hotter in every movie?

[Spurminator]

Yeah--this isn't the first movie to use that technique (wtf is the name?), but it will definitely be the biggest draw using it.

They have been working on this movie since 2001 i think


Waking Life.

[Spurminator]

Its about fucking time... I remember seeing previews for this movie 2 years ago. Unfortunately, Charles Schwab already ripped off the animation technique in some oddly misguided attempt to get us to buy... mutual funds?



Additionally, a 2005-06 advertising campaign by Charles Schwab uses rotoscoping for a series of television spots, under the tagline "Talk to Chuck." This distinctive look is the work of Bob Sabiston, an MIT Media Lab veteran who brought the same "interpolated rotoscoping" technique to the Richard Linklater film Waking Life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscope

[whottt]

The animation looks like ass...

It I was still into Acid I might get excited about it...but since I'm not, it just looks annoying.

I think I'll be passing on this one, inspite of the fact that I like the author...I can't see myself sitting through two hours of that annoying as shit animation.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

whottt's acid?

[ShoogarBear]

Is there any particular reason to have this film in rotoscope? Is it necessary to the story, or just a gimmick they decided to use?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Something I thought as well. Apparently in the novel, the protagonist becomes addicted to this drug, and I think the rotoscope is used to portray his descent into an altered world of hallucination.

[ShoogarBear]

Well, this will certainly be the first movie ever to show Keanu animated.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This will be his finest performance since The Lake House.

[ObiwanGinobili]

One last thing...is it me or is Winona Ryder getting 33% hotter in every movie?


http://wip.warnerbros.com/ascannerdarkly/


thats not just you.
I also think she gets hotter the more screen time she gets.

but then again, I have athing for Winona and would totally lesbo it up with her at the drop of a hat.


A Scanner Darkly: I want to see this movie. I am dying to see this movie.
but Emo thinks it looks "gay" I told him he was "gay" and then he said "no - your gay" and it decnded into more stupidity from there.
so it looksliek I'll be waiting till it's on netflix.


please keep this thread updated with reviews.

[phyzik]

Its not really "animated" its just cell shaded. they took the regular movie shots with the actors then applied the technique (which is pretty complex) to make it look hand-drawn. usually applied in video games where its no so complex to apply to 3d models (IE. Zelda the Windwaker, HalfLife 2 mods, ect) real big in 3D Studio Max

http://www.bluesfear.com/tutorials/3Dcellshading.php

There is also some comercial out with a black guy eating a steak thats cell shaded.... this will be the first movie I know of that uses the technology though.

[scott]

Seriously. Mutual funds.

[whottt]

It sucks because of the stupid shadow flickers...it's stupid. What exactly are they trying to convey?


There is nothing redeeming about it. It enhances the viewing image in no way, visually, stylistically, artistically...nada, squat. It isn't cool looking...it's stupid looking. Irritating. Distracting. Annoying.

Just because it's different and new doesn't mean it's good. It sucks.

[leemajors]

Its not really "animated" its just cell shaded. they took the regular movie shots with the actors then applied the technique (which is pretty complex) to make it look hand-drawn. usually applied in video games where its no so complex to apply to 3d models (IE. Zelda the Windwaker, HalfLife 2 mods, ect) real big in 3D Studio Max

http://www.bluesfear.com/tutorials/3Dcellshading.php

There is also some comercial out with a black guy eating a steak thats cell shaded.... this will be the first movie I know of that uses the technology though.

already mentioned, but richard linklater used this tech in waking life. this will be linklater's second movie using it. not to put a damper on things, but what was the last well adapted philip k dick story? great stories, horrible adaptations for the most part... minority report was OK, but nothing special.

[johngateswhiteley]

just watched the movie.......phenomenal. then again, i love Linklater's work, and understand, unlike whott, why he uses rotoscope. its not animation...and it serves a purpose...

[whottt]

Yeah...I see a lot of mystical depth in those Charles Schwabb commercials that were using it a year before the movie came out.


:tu

It sucked.

I saw the movie...it was typical Phillip K. Dick and could have been a great movie if not for the fucking rotoscope...which was a gimmick at best. And a lame one at that.

[shelshor]

already mentioned, but richard linklater used this tech in waking life. this will be linklater's second movie using it. not to put a damper on things, but what was the last well adapted philip k dick story? great stories, horrible adaptations for the most part... minority report was OK, but nothing special.
Sadly, Blade Runner and Total Recall may have been the better adaptations; Paycheck would have benefitted by casting someone other than Ben Affleck

http://imdb.com/name/nm0001140/
...
Next (2007) (completed) (novel story The Golden Man) (as Phillip K. Dick)
A Scanner Darkly (2006) (novel)
Paycheck (2003) (short story)
Minority Report (2002) (short story)
Impostor (2002) (story Impostor)
"Total Recall 2070" (1999) TV Series (unknown episodes)
... aka Total Recall: The Series (USA)
Total Recall 2070 (1999) (TV) (short story) (as Phillip K. Dick)
... aka Total Recall 2070: Machine Dreams (USA: video title)
Abre los ojos (1997) (novel Ubik) (uncredited)
... aka Apri gli occhi (Italy)
... aka Open Your Eyes (USA)
... aka Ouvre les yeux (France)
... aka Permanent Midnight (USA)
Blade Runner (1997) (VG) (novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?)
Screamers (1995) (short story Second Variety)
... aka Screamers - L'armée souterraine (Canada: French title)
Drug-Taking and the Arts (1994) (novel A Scanner Darkly)
Confessions d'un Barjo (1992) (novel)
... aka Barjo (Canada: English title)
... aka Confessions of a Crap Artist
Total Recall (1990) (short story We Can Remember It For You Wholesale) (inspiration) (as Phillip K. Dick)
Blade Runner (1982) (novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?)
"Out of This World" (1962) TV Series (unknown episodes)
...

[johngateswhiteley]

Yeah...I see a lot of mystical depth in those Charles Schwabb commercials that were using it a year before the movie came out.


:tu

It sucked.


it was great. and i don't see what the Schwab commercials have to do with...anything.

[whottt]

Bleh...the movie would have been just as good with traditional effects, there was nothing spectacular about the rotoscoping and more often than not it was a distraction.

The movie had an awesome cast and great source material...the rotoscoping actually distracted from that.


Then again, you're a guy that thinks you could beat Tony Parker in a 40 yard dash, so you obviously already on some good drugs to begin with....I don't doubt it was a heavy relevance experience for you.

[whottt]

Rotoscoping is the cinematic equivalent of Tylenol 3.

[CuckingFunt]

Rotoscoping is the cinematic equivalent of Tylenol 3.Rotoscoping is hardly new. The technique was developed in the 1930's (by the Fleischers, I believe, who did the Betty Boop cartoons) and was an animation staple for decades.

I haven't seen all of A Scanner Darkly (only a few scenes, actually), but I did see Waking Life, which was Linklater's first film using the technique. I would have liked that film just as much without the rotoscoping, but it didn't bother me to look at.

[johngateswhiteley]

Bleh...the movie would have been just as good with traditional effects, there was nothing spectacular about the rotoscoping and more often than not it was a distraction.

The movie had an awesome cast and great source material...the rotoscoping actually distracted from that.


Then again, you're a guy that thinks you could beat Tony Parker in a 40 yard dash, so you obviously already on some good drugs to begin with....I don't doubt it was a heavy relevance experience for you.

so you're saying...i can't beat TP in the 40 yard dash?

[whottt]

Rotoscoping is hardly new. The technique was developed in the 1930's (by the Fleischers, I believe, who did the Betty Boop cartoons) and was an animation staple for decades.

I haven't seen all of A Scanner Darkly (only a few scenes, actually), but I did see Waking Life, which was Linklater's first film using the technique. I would have liked that film just as much without the rotoscoping, but it didn't bother me to look at.


Yes, but it's previously established that you give fuck all about realism so I'm not sure how objective your opinion is on this subject.

[CuckingFunt]

Yes, but it's previously established that you give fuck all about realism so I'm not sure how objective your opinion is on this subject.I'm quite fond of realism, actually, but that doesn't mean I need it to be an integral part of each of my movie going experiences.

[ShoogarBear]

whottt's just mad because that wasn't really Winona naked.

[leemajors]

the rotoscope took a while to get used to, but it may have helped keanu be a little more palatable. good adaptation, but i don't think i could watch it twice because of the rotoscope.

[batman2883]

i love this movie its fantastic