Scola to stay one more year in Spain

[kolko]

From LA NACION:

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/820978



"Voy a seguir un año más en Tau Cerámica", será el anuncio que realizará hoy el pivote argentino Luis Scola durante la conferencia de prensa que se realizará en Vitoria, España, donde el presidente del club, Joan Querejeta, presentará al nuevo plantel.

En consecuencia, por tercer año consecutivo, el enorme sueño del porteño campeón olímpico quedará trunco porque el equipo dueño de sus derechos en NBA, San Antonio Spurs, no mostró interés en contratarlo tampoco para la próxima temporada. "En el país de la libertad, Luis es un esclavo", señaló Claudio Villanueva, representante del jugador, antes de agregar: "Los Spurs no lo utilizan ni quieren cederlo a otro equipo y le impiden jugar en la NBA".

Para Villanueva está claro que "San Antonio no quiere a Luis Scola. Es evidente que no lo valoran como jugador pese a que es uno de los mejores de Europa y ganador de muchos torneos y premios individuales. La verdad, es muy raro, no sé por qué Gregg Popovich no lo quiere", dijo el agente argentino.

Lo peor es que Scola estaba decidido a rescindir su contrato con Tau (unos 4.000.000 de dólares por los dos años que le quedaban) para aceptar ofertas de Chicago Bulls o Utah Jazz, que había mostrado interés en contratarlo, "además de Phoenix y Memphis, que habían preguntado por él", acotó Villanueva. Sin embargo, los Spurs pusieron muchas condiciones (pidieron mucho dinero y canjes por elecciones de primera ronda en el próximo draft) para ceder los derechos de Scola a otro equipo.

"Luis es joven, tiene 26 años, y puede esperar: el año que viene seguramente cumplirá su sueño", afirmó el representante.
Translated:


"I will continue one more year in Tau Ceramica", is the announcement argentinian power forward Luis Scola will make today during a press conference to be held in Vitoria, Spain where Tau's president, Joan Quereteja, will present the new roster.

Therefore, for the third consecutive year, the dream of the olympic champion won't come true because the team which owns his NBA rights, San Antonio Spurs, didn't show any interest in signing him. "In the country of freedom, Luis is a slave", said Claudio Villanueva, Scola's agent and added: "The Spurs are preventing him from playing in the NBA, they don't want to trade him".

According to Villanueva, it is clear that "San Antonio doesn't want Luis Scola. They don't valuate him as a player although he is one of the best in Europe and a winner of many tournaments and individual awards. Actually, I don't know why Gregg Popovich doesn't want him", said the argentinian agent.

Scola was decided to pay his buyout ($4 millions for the two years left in his contract) to accept offers from Chicago Bulls or Utah Jazz, who had shown interest in signing him. "Phoenix and Memphis also asked for him", said Villanueva. However, Spurs asked for money and first round picks in next year's draft to trade Scola's rights.

"Luis is young, he is 26 years old, and can wait: I am sure his dream will come true next year", affirmed the agent.

[Leetonidas]

His agent is an asshole.

[SPARKY]

It's rather simple, Claudio. Luis is a "slave" because he isn't worth $4 mil a season.

[infinite styles]

Apparently Claudio believes the "Land of Freedom" grows trees of money.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

slave? please.....

[rayray2k8]

The relationship with Scola and the spurs franchise is getting ugly.
At this point the spurs are going to have no choice but to trade him in the future.
That is if hes even playing in the NBA.

[blackbucket]

Accept what Manu accepted his first couple years, prove your worthy, and you will get paid by somebody after that. One more thing, tell your agent to STFU. He isn't helping your cause.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, it appears that they didn't want to trade him because they didn't think they were getting good value back. Interesting but then again I'm not really going to believe it because it comes from an agent.

[Spurs16212]

It would be stupid to give this guy most of the MLE money the Spurs have. Didn't they regard Oberto as one of the best players in Europe as well and look how he turned up in his first year. Right now the Spurs are going in a direction that does not fit Scola's game. Wait out the year and enjoy a lower buyout to enjoy more of your money.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

It's rather simple, Claudio. Luis is a "slave" because he isn't worth $4 mil a season.

Maybe I misread...

But didn't Scola just say he would be willing to pay the buyout himself?

[SPARKY]

Next year Scola will not have the buyout as leverage in the negotiations and will either accept the 2 year, $3 mil (or so) 'welcome to the land of milk and honey' deal or continue to be a free man in the land of slaves, as it were.

[SPARKY]

Maybe I misread...

But didn't Scola just say he would be willing to pay the buyout himself?

Right, which of course ultimately would come from his NBA contract.

[itzsoweezee]

i'm siding w/ scola on this one. four different teams wanted this guy and the spurs still couldn't get anything done. this is retarded.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Right, which of course ultimately would come from his NBA contract.

Doesn't make sense.

If he is offering to pay it, he should take a 2 million dollar cut both seasons to pay it off.

[Leetonidas]

Maybe I misread...

But didn't Scola just say he would be willing to pay the buyout himself?

Scola has to pay the buyout himself.

[SPARKY]

Doesn't make sense.

If he is offering to pay it, he should take a 2 million dollar cut both seasons to pay it off.

He still has to pay it.

[SPARKY]

i'm siding w/ scola on this one. four different teams wanted this guy and the spurs still couldn't get anything done. this is retarded.

At least the Spurs aren't giving all of their talent away.

[koopa]

Maybe I misread...

But didn't Scola just say he would be willing to pay the buyout himself?


but using the money that the spurs give him. so he'll still be overpaid if he comes over. just trade this dude, i don't like his agent lol

[SPARKY]

For those who want Scola to be a Spur, this is ultimately good news.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

His agent reminds of how DA's agent fucked up him staying in San Antonio.

Though his "Loyalty" speech was epic. Fucking retard.

[itzsoweezee]

At least the Spurs aren't giving all of their talent away.

i doubt the suns, bulls, jazz, etc. were offering NOTHING. but that's all the spurs are going to end up getting for him NOTHING. the only tradeable guy the spurs have and they've got nothing to show for it.

[Leetonidas]

i doubt the suns, bulls, jazz, etc. were offering NOTHING. but that's all the spurs are going to end up getting for him NOTHING. the only tradeable guy the spurs have and they've got nothing to show for it.

It's July 5th. Shut up and wait.

[furry_spurry]

I told you Phoenix was interested in him. I also understand the frustration because there are teams that want him but the Spurs don't want to trade him. I believe, as well, that people are making a huge false assumption- and that is that the Spurs offered Scola some presumed deal. People keep insisting that Scola should have taken an offer that I don't believe was ever even made. You do realize that Scola's buy out will cost him about $5M US. Now explain how he is supposed to sign a two-year deal starting at less than $2M per season- subtracting all the taxes and agent %,....

[loveforthegame]

Scola was decided to pay his buyout ($4 millions for the two years left in his contract) to accept offers from Chicago Bulls or Utah Jazz, who had shown interest in signing him. "Phoenix and Memphis also asked for him", said Villanueva. However, Spurs asked for money and first round picks in next year's draft to trade Scola's right.

What were these teams offering? I guess it shows he's not worth a 1st round pick afterall.

[leemajors]

the spurs can pay 500k of the buyout i think, and i also remember from another thread the players usually take out a loan to pay the buyout.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

i doubt the suns, bulls, jazz, etc. were offering NOTHING. but that's all the spurs are going to end up getting for him NOTHING. the only tradeable guy the spurs have and they've got nothing to show for it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have the rights to him...no?

Next year, we can still deal him...minus the buyout. No?

[SPARKY]

i doubt the suns, bulls, jazz, etc. were offering NOTHING. but that's all the spurs are going to end up getting for him NOTHING. the only tradeable guy the spurs have and they've got nothing to show for it.

They still have his rights, don't they?

[Leetonidas]

the spurs can pay 500k of the buyout i think, and i also remember from another thread the players usually take out a loan to pay the buyout.

I think it was lowered to 350,000.

[furry_spurry]

What were these teams offering? I guess it shows he's not worth a 1st round pick afterall.
Teams offered, but the Spurs did not accept.

I think more than anything it makes the Spurs look bad. This team gave Oberto- who is not nearly as good- 3 years and $7M.

[itzsoweezee]

It's July 5th. Shut up and wait.

oh, so the spurs are going to trade next month after he's just declared that he's staying another year in europe? sure, genius.

[Leetonidas]

Temas offered, but the Spurs did not accept.

Maybe because he's a good player and the Spurs want to get something GOOD in return. If you hadn't read the reports, they're trying to package Scola with Barry, but have no takers.

[jman3000]

His agent reminds of how DA's agent fucked up him staying in San Antonio.

Though his "Loyalty" speech was epic. Fucking retard.

The great thing about that, is that his clothing line is called "Loyalty". He basically uses the word a lot to pimp his clothing line ... funny stuff.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Let's say the Spurs traded him.

That buyout money goes to his team in whereverland. What do the Spurs have to gain from that? If they wait until next year...all the value put into the buyout, they can get something back for.



What would you do if the Spurs? I know I like money in my pocket more than money in whereverland's pocket.

[Leetonidas]

oh, so the spurs are going to trade next month after he's just declared that he's staying another year in europe? sure, genius.

First of all, the Spurs hold his fucking rights, so if they want to trade him, they can. Secondly, the team he would've been traded to is better served waiting until next year so as not to overpay him. Thirdly, like I said, it's JULY FIFTH. The God damn moratorium hasn't even ended and all you people do is complain that the Spurs haven't made any moves. Newsflash genius, the free agency period begain FIVE DAYS AGO. The offseason lasts until NOVEMBER, and the trade deadline is in FEBRUARY.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The great thing about that, is that his clothing line is called "Loyalty". He basically uses the word a lot to pimp his clothing line ... funny stuff.

Ya, didn't he have a chain or something with it on it?

I'm glad he got fucked. Fucking stupid motherfucker.

[Leetonidas]

Let's say the Spurs traded him.

That buyout money goes to his team in whereverland. What do the Spurs have to gain from that? If they wait until next year...all the value put into the buyout, they can get something back for.



What would you do if the Spurs? I know I like money in my pocket more than money in whereverland's pocket.

Wherever = Tau Ceramica, in Spain.

[violentkitten]

argentinian bigmen suck hard anyways

[loveforthegame]

Teams offered, but the Spurs did not accept.

Yeah, I got that. Most of us thought he was worth a 1st round pick but we were wrong it seems.

I was sorta thinking out loud when I asked what these teams were offering? I guess it had to be 2nd round picks or cash.

[violentkitten]

if he wasnt demanding 4 million a year hed be worth a first round pick

[furry_spurry]

Maybe because he's a good player and the Spurs want to get something GOOD in return. If you hadn't read the reports, they're trying to package Scola with Barry, but have no takers.
I was responding to the person who said he was not worth a first round pick. I guarantee that offer was made and the Spurs rejected it.

I still say the Spurs will come out looking bad in the whole Scola situation and it has been destined for some time to turn out ugly. What I really hate is the Spurs negative campaign they make through their media mouthpieces.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

He is worth a 1st round pick.

The thing is, he's not worth a first round pick AND the buyout. I'm guessing if we offer the same deal next year minus the buyout, the teams jump on it.

[violentkitten]

I still say the Spurs will come out looking bad in the whole Scola situation and it has been destined for some time to turn out ugly. What I really hate is the Spurs negative campaign they make through their media mouthpieces.

howd you manage to be a spurs fan and see through all the bs?

[spurs_in_7]

"The Spurs are preventing him from playing in the NBA, they don't want to trade him"

just like i said. I don't know why you people did think that the spurs wanted trade this great player.





It's rather simple, Claudio. Luis is a "slave" because he isn't worth $4 mil a season.

no it's because the spurs are cheap assholes, if Garbajosa worth 4millions then Scola worth same at least.

[itzsoweezee]

First of all, the Spurs hold his fucking rights, so if they want to trade him, they can. Secondly, the team he would've been traded to is better served waiting until next year so as not to overpay him. Thirdly, like I said, it's JULY FIFTH. The God damn moratorium hasn't even ended and all you people do is complain that the Spurs haven't made any moves. Newsflash genius, the free agency period begain FIVE DAYS AGO. The offseason lasts until NOVEMBER, and the trade deadline is in FEBRUARY.

the point is, the spurs are not going to get anything for him. he's not going to be get traded now. he's not coming to the spurs. whether the spurs make any other moves the rest of the offseason is irrelevant. the fact is, they had a trade piece w/ scola and they've let it go to waste.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

This is ridiculous.

What do the spurs have to gain from sabatoging Scola's NBA dreams for 3 years? The only reason I see them not going through with it is because it wasn't cost effective. It just didn't make sense to bring him over.

[furry_spurry]

Yeah, I got that. Most of us thought he was worth a 1st round pick but we were wrong it seems.

I was sorta thinking out loud when I asked what these teams were offering? I guess it had to be 2nd round picks or cash.
Again, I ask where is that assumption. Just because the Spurs did not trade him does not mean that the Spurs were not offered a first round pick for him.

[infinite styles]

What need does Scola fill at this moment? If he isn't needed in this system at this time then why would you use all your money for him? Wouldn't that be the same thing that everybody gets on the Knicks for? And for people to bring up Oberto's contract is stupid cause that just shows that the Spurs learned from their mistake and won't put the teams spending power in jeopardy again. Scola will play in the NBA someday and it may be with the Spurs considering that next year Bonner will be a FA, Horry could possibly retire, and Oberto could be shipped off somewhere. Anything is possible. Scola will get his chance and his agent will get his money, they just need to chill and play the system cause all this commotion could backfire on Scola cause the expectations will be much greater.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

the point is, the spurs are not going to get anything for him. he's not going to be get traded now. he's not coming to the spurs. whether the spurs make any other moves the rest of the offseason is irrelevant. the fact is, they had a trade piece w/ scola and they've let it go to waste.

They haven't gotten anything for him the past few years either.

We seem to be doing alright still. Just wait until next year and deal him. You'll get more back.

[SPARKY]

no it's because the spurs are cheap assholes,

Agreed.



if Garbajosa worth 4millions then Scola worth same at least.

Scola's still not worth $4 mil though.

[loveforthegame]

Again, I ask where is that assumption. Just because the Spurs did not trade him does not mean that the Spurs were not offered a first round pick for him.

However, Spurs asked for money and first round picks in next year's draft to trade Scola's rights.

So one (or maybe all) of those teams offered a 1st round pick but wouldn't throw in some cash? Or offered cash and no pick? If this agent is to be believed that was the Spurs asking price. Cash and a 1st round pick. Unless they were trying to dump Barry on them as well, those teams must have only offered half of the Spurs asking price, correct? Or this agent is lying about it all.

[furry_spurry]

Who said he wants $4M? The media?



However, Spurs asked for money and first round picks in next year's draft to trade Scola's rights.
The key word.

[Leetonidas]

Regardless of what Scola wants, the Spurs need to address their Center, SF, and PG problems. Scola is a PF with no outside game and does what Tim does, but not as good. We don't need him. So no, he's not worth 4 million.

[SequNets]

Scola > Rasho (7 mill)

STFU. The Spurs are running lean.

[infinite styles]

Who said he wants $4M? The media?

Probably "common sense" If he has to pay his own buyout then also pay his agent and taxes most likely he would demand that type of money to do all that. Who said dreams were free. :lol

[Leetonidas]

Scola > Rasho (7 mill)

STFU. The Spurs are running lean.

:lol

[infinite styles]

Regardless of what Scola wants, the Spurs need to address their Center, SF, and PG problems. Scola is a PF with no outside game and does what Tim does, but not as good. We don't need him. So no, he's not worth 4 million.

Thats the point I've been trying to make. He doesn't fill the role that the Spurs need filled. Next year is when he is most likely needed so he needs to just chill.

[furry_spurry]

Regardless of what Scola wants, the Spurs need to address their Center, SF, and PG problems. Scola is a PF with no outside game and does what Tim does, but not as good. We don't need him. So no, he's not worth 4 million.
That is why you trade him. I never said to sign him- I have said all along to trade the guy and quit with all the secret BS.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The Spurs are a business.

It doesn't make sense to bring Scola over. :bang

[infinite styles]

That is why you trade him. I never said to sign him- I have said all along to trade the guy and quit with all the secret BS.

Trade him for what? Yeah the agent said what the Spurs wanted and what teams wanted Scola but he never said that they were willing to give them anything of value. Why are you so anxious to get rid of him for presumably nothing? Trust that the FO values Scola enough to get something that is going to help the team and not hurt them.

[conqueso]

Scola was decided to pay his buyout ($4 millions for the two years left in his contract) to accept offers from Chicago Bulls or Utah Jazz, who had shown interest in signing him. "Phoenix and Memphis also asked for him", said Villanueva. However, Spurs asked for money and first round picks in next year's draft to trade Scola's rights.

2007 Draft picks:

Chicago: Have the conditional right to swap draft picks with New York. Since New York blows hairy goat balls, this pick might be pretty decent...if Chicago takes the option. Their regular pick would be mid to late first round, seeing as how they might end up being an eastern conference powerhouse this year.

Utah: Regular pick determined by record or lottery. This team is on the cusp of the playoffs, so their pick is likely to be mid first round.

Phoenix: Regular pick determined by record or lottery. This team is top four in the West, so this is a bottom first round pick. They also have Atlanta's first round pick (protected to No. 3), which is a crap shoot since we all know that Atlanta will probably have more balls in the lottery than any other team next year.

Memphis: Regular pick determined by record or lottery. Again, another team on the cusp of the playoffs, mid first round.

All said and done, I think Scola is probably more valuable to the 2007-8 Spurs than whoever they could get in the middle of the first round. The best option for the Spurs would be to ship Scola to Chicago for NY's pick next year, but I don't think Chicago is in the market for any more big men. As a result, keeping Scola on the shelf for one more year is probably a better decision than taking a risk on some asshole who won't be ready to play big minutes for a few years. Cash alone is not enough, and one of those draft picks alone is not enough, and both together probably aren't enough. This whole thing makes sense to me, even if it is a little unfair to Scola.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so now his agent is blamin us?

tell him to go eat a shit, i dont think we care anymore, he is the moron who duped scola in signin a 10yr contract, i say stuff him n tau, i be happy if the spurs dont sign him or trade his rights.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why hasnt scola fired that fagot agent of his??

so his stayin one more year, and what happens if his buyout is around 2-3mill, i dont think the spurs will be interested in it. dont trade his rights, let him perish his talent in europe, and screw his agent and tau

[Please_dont_ban_me]

so now his agent is blamin us?

tell him to go eat a shit, i dont think we care anymore, he is the moron who duped scola in signin a 10yr contract, i say stuff him n tau, i be happy if the spurs dont sign him or trade his rights.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

He signed that contract. He knew the buyout. Did he just assume the Spurs would be willing to pay it off for him, and then pay him an extra 2-4 mill a year on top of that? Wtf.

[TDMVPDPOY]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

He signed that contract. He knew the buyout. Did he just assume the Spurs would be willing to pay it off for him, and then pay him an extra 2-4 mill a year on top of that? Wtf.

dude wanted MLE if not he wouldnt come over, another greedy bastard

seriously how much is he earnin playin for tau anyway, and no way is the buyout is transparent with how much he earns a year playin with tau.

doesnt he saved up his money since playin with tau, he should knew one day there will be this day.

so we should contribute 350k, give him a salary of MLE so he can offset the buyout in installments...um fuck him, too expensive, i thought he has enough money to buyout his contract. nothin is free in this world.

FIRED UR DAMN AGENT THEN COME BACK AND TALK!

[timvp]

Perhaps we'll see Scola next season. Hopefully at least he's easier to draft around draft time next year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

he comes over in 07/08 when horry retires,

but ian is also comin over, so we got ian/td/orb/javto 4 bigs, plus i think we be draftin a big in 07

[SenorSpur]

This is getting old already. I just don't think his value is such that the Spurs can trade him. I'm starting to wish they would have never drafted this guy.

[picnroll]

Scola's rights plus Spurs' pick will likely allow the Spurs to move up some in next year's strong draft.

[TMTTRIO]

I wonder if Scola has talked to Manu at all especially since Manu is up there in Spain too right now doing basketball clinics for the next few weeks. Anyways his agent sounds very bad.

[Slomo]

he comes over in 07/08 when horry retires,

but ian is also comin over, so we got ian/td/orb/javto 4 bigs, plus i think we be draftin a big in 07
That's a big assumption. Ian could easily spend two more seasons in Europe.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I wonder if Scola has talked to Manu at all especially since Manu is up there in Spain too right now doing basketball clinics for the next few weeks. Anyways his agent sounds very bad.


probaly askin gino to lend him bling so he can payout his lame contract.

seriously why doesnt scola just fired that lame agent of his, unless there is sumshit in his contract with the agent, sueing for royalties.....

[venitian navigator]

I'm sorry for Scola not coming here.
However, it makes sense.
I agree with a lot of the things said before.
IMHO a lot of reasons for spurs behavior :
1) Spurs trust him like a very good player (and I'm sure he is, also at NBA level).
2) They would have traded him just for a very good offer (like Chicago first pick next year with option to switch with N.Y. - probably lottery - pick) that, evidently, they didn'y receive.
3) They see him like duncan's replacements in the "plaiyng inside".
4) Next year will be the best to put him in because of the end of Bonner's contract and the probable retirement of Horry (actually two or our three/four options - see Duncan and the probable other big man we're gonna add to the roster - at power forward).
5) They will have the chance to choose next year between him and Mihinmi (who, in case of needing more improvement, could likely stay in Europe for one more year).
But the two best reasons of the management's choice are simple :
both javtokas and Scola are well known as part of the few players seen - with quite no doubt - like , individualltìy, the best in europe for an nba prospetive...I've an article about that in the site NBA Draft and they took the position n° 2) and 3) respectively for the european players seen as "NBA ready".
Both have to be regarded with fair market value (see Garbajosa).
This should be the year of Javtokas (who, I think, will be paid more than three millions a year for, at least, three years).
Next one, 'cause of all the buy out stuff, will be Scola's (and, maybe, Mahinmi) year.
This year we had not the chance, for nba rules, to fairly pay both...and that's the one, simple and logical reason 'cause they will not come both.
In two years, in the worst of cases, our five bigs will be Duncan, Scola, Javtokas, Mahinmi and, probably, Oberto... not that bad at all...!

[spurster]

As the Holting Pattern turns ...

[furry_spurry]

He signed that contract. He knew the buyout. Did he just assume the Spurs would be willing to pay it off for him, and then pay him an extra 2-4 mill a year on top of that? Wtf.
You realize he signed that contract when he was like 17 years old and it was a ten year deal- To guarantee financial security for him and his family at that age without any clue that the NBA would ever even be a feasible option.

The problem I have with the Spurs is this- they are like an abusive ex- they don't want him but they don't want anyone else to have him either.

[Obstructed_View]

You realize he signed that contract when he was like 17 years old and it was a ten year deal- To guarantee financial security for him and his family at that age without any clue that the NBA would ever even be a feasible option.

The problem I have with the Spurs is this- they are like an abusive ex- they don't want him but they don't want anyone else to have him either.
Yeah. Those fuckers should pay a half a million toward his buyout and trade him for a 2008 second round pick, and they are just being cruel slavemasters by not wanting to dump him a week before the free agency period actually starts.

:rolleyes

Seriously, why do you give a fucking shit what his agent says? You should change your name to furry_scola if you care so much about the poor guy having to scrape by on the ten year contract he was forced to sign.

[Slomo]

You realize he signed that contract when he was like 17 years old and it was a ten year deal- To guarantee financial security for him and his family at that age without any clue that the NBA would ever even be a feasible option.

The problem I have with the Spurs is this- they are like an abusive ex- they don't want him but they don't want anyone else to have him either.I can appreciate that, but if financial security for him and his family was that important then, he must now live with the consequences and not blame the Spurs (or anybody else for that matter) for not bailing him out of his long term commitment.

His Agent on the other hand should have believed in his client's ability and should have built in some provisional clauses that he could use now. Of course I suspect that in such a case the contract value would have been smaller along with his commission.

I know it's easy to be a general after the battle, but we have all made bad choices lived with the consequences of such choices - it's no different for Scola.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Scola's agent is talking out of both sides of his ass on this one.

The Spurs do not want Scola.... the spurs refuse to trade Scola?? WTF? So is he insinuating that the Spurs have some kind of personal vendetta - they are trying to sabotage his career?
Scola's agent could seriously fuck things up for him.

as far as I am aware Pop, RC and presti all love them some Scola. But noway would they break holt cat's purse strings to get him. geeze louise! Hold your fucking horses.
1 more year. I knwo that may be frustrating - but damn.

[furry_spurry]

Slomo, I understand that completely. I just don't like how the Spurs have handled it all- not even talking to him- not letting him know what they were planning to do with him... Two years ago they said that getting him here was the #1 priority. They should have never said that. They knew all about his buy-out and everything at that time.

[vanvannen]

This is quite simple really. Scola wants to play in the NBA. The Spurs have his rights, they obviously don't want/need him, but they don't want to trade him either. Apparently they don't think hi is good enough to be brought over, but they don't want him in another team either. I think the Spurs are doing what they think is best for their business, and Scola is right to be mad, because he is already 27 and will probably never play in the NBA.
They both have their reasons to do what they are doing.

[Mr. Body]

I can understand the agent's frustration. He's working for his client's best interest, which is opening up avenues to play in the NBA. It doesn't seem obvious why the Spurs wouldn't 1) renounce Scola's rights if they don't plan on signing him, or 2) get what they can in a trade and not hold out for unreasonable expectations (2007 1st rounder).

Why are we pissed that the agent is pissed?

[TMTTRIO]

The Spurs should consider trading him now. One thing to consider is age factor. This is probably the best year to trade him and probably get at least something decent for him. He's 26 years old and this is probably going to be the best shot at trading him for something. Nobody is going to really be all that interested in him as he gets older and still hasn't played in the NBA. They could draft someone else with their pick that is so much younger who could be just as good.

[ducks]

I think spur fans are pissed that a trade was not pulled off
4 teams wanted him and now they found out teams did not want so much for him
and are insulted because they think scola was worth atleast what spurs wanted
so they take it out on agent

[MoSpur]

Spurry whines just as bad as Scola's agent.

[Obstructed_View]

These same people that are bitching would lose their fucking minds if the Spurs had traded Scola for a second round pick this early in the season.

[MoSpur]

Its obvious that the teams that were interested didn't want to give too much for him.

[cheguevara]

FUCK! fucking cheap ass spurs. So we gave up Rasho, Nazr and we don't have shit to show for it!!!! damn

[Kori Ellis]

You realize he signed that contract when he was like 17 years old and it was a ten year deal- To guarantee financial security for him and his family at that age without any clue that the NBA would ever even be a feasible option.

The problem I have with the Spurs is this- they are like an abusive ex- they don't want him but they don't want anyone else to have him either.


Oh they definitely want someone else to have him. That's why they have been shopping him like crazy. But I guess no one thinks that highly of him (they aren't willing to give up the first round pick) and the Spurs don't think they should settle for a second round pick.

[Solid D]

The Euroleague site comments that Scola will remain through 2008.

Actually, that's probably referring to the contract he's been playing under.

[Obstructed_View]

and the Spurs don't think they should settle for a second round pick.
Key point. The question is, less than a week into the negotiating period, why on earth would anyone think that the Spurs should? The whole idea of dumping him for the first offer that rolls around is retarded.

[Fabbs]

Oh they definitely want someone else to have him. That's why they have been shopping him like crazy. But I guess no one thinks that highly of him (they aren't willing to give up the first round pick) and the Spurs don't think they should settle for a second round pick.

Is it also a negotiating manuever to let Tau know "you wouldn't budge on the 4 mil buyout so now you can deal with recieving zippo for Scola".

Will this entice Tau to relent two months from now?

[Kori Ellis]

Is it also a negotiating manuever to let Tau know "you wouldn't budge on the 4 mil buyout so now you can deal with recieving zippo for Scola".

Will this entice Tau to relent two months from now?

Tau wants him to stay and he has 2 years left there. I don't think it's any kind of negotiating manuever. Maybe next summer it would be.

[Bruno]

I've read some spanish onlie newspaper, so :

- What Scola says sounds way better than what his agent has said : "i respect Spurs choice and I understand that Spurs are looking for another kind of players. I will continue to watch their games and be happy when they won".

- Scola really want to play in nba : he won't sign an extension and he will try to come next year in nba. NBA is his dream.

- Scola has played this season through an injury... a Plantar Fasciitis :lol

[Obstructed_View]

I'm sure Tau is perfectly satisfied that their best player can't leave for another year.

[Mr. Body]

They should trade Scola to Orlando for the rights to Fran Vasquez. That would work out perfectly for both teams. Scola could come over right away and the Spurs and Fran could not bother calling each other for the rest of the decade.

[superfedja]

everyone just shut up and stop hating on luis scola.... this guy is more then ready to be a great player in the NBA ... and Pop said it so many times... he wants this guy in a spurs uniform ... the only reason why Scola isnt in the NBA yet is bcuz Holt is a cheap ass bitch cuz Popovich has said it time after time that he loves Scola and would really want to get him over here but the problem is Holt doesn't want to pay the buyout... that's not my opinion that's a fact .. read between the lines when Pop speaks about this situation and you'll see it... and by the way to those who think scola isn't ready to play in the NBA .... can u name me the last 2 guys that came in the NBA and were considered as the best in Europe? oh yeah it was Dirk Nowitzki and Peja Stojakovic... and they didn't turn out bad didn't they.... except that Scola is a way better defender then those 2... case closed. So think before u speak and stop the hate on Scola... if u were in his position ( being a awesome bball player and not getting millions and millions of dollars a year bcuz some dickhead doesn't want to invest in his team and then he doesn't want to trade your rights... bcuz Holt doesn't want to trade his rights to a great player without getting something good in return) you would be pissed off too. and by the way, if Cuban was our owner ( or any other owner in the league in that matter) Scola would have been playing alongside TD and winning championships as we speak... and not getting beaten by Dallas in 2nd round.

[byrontx]

I wonder if the agent doing the bitching is the same agent that took a payday locking Scola into that horrible contract with Tau? If so, the agent is doing a much better job of looking after his interest than Scola's.

[picnroll]

Agents pissed he's not getting his commission. Is this the same agent who set up Scola's original crappy contract? Hopefully he got himself a new one.

[Obstructed_View]

that's a fact .. read between the lines
Don't need to read any further than that. :lol

[MoSpur]

everyone just shut up and stop hating on luis scola.... this guy is more then ready to be a great player in the NBA ... and Pop said it so many times... he wants this guy in a spurs uniform ... the only reason why Scola isnt in the NBA yet is bcuz Holt is a cheap ass bitch cuz Popovich has said it time after time that he loves Scola and would really want to get him over here but the problem is Holt doesn't want to pay the buyout... that's not my opinion that's a fact .. read between the lines when Pop speaks about this situation and you'll see it... and by the way to those who think scola isn't ready to play in the NBA .... can u name me the last 2 guys that came in the NBA and were considered as the best in Europe? oh yeah it was Dirk Nowitzki and Peja Stojakovic... and they didn't turn out bad didn't they.... except that Scola is a way better defender then those 2... case closed. So think before u speak and stop the hate on Scola... if u were in his position ( being a awesome bball player and not getting millions and millions of dollars a year bcuz some dickhead doesn't want to invest in his team and then he doesn't want to trade your rights... bcuz Holt doesn't want to trade his rights to a great player without getting something good in return) you would be pissed off too. and by the way, if Cuban was our owner ( or any other owner in the league in that matter) Scola would have been playing alongside TD and winning championships as we speak... and not getting beaten by Dallas in 2nd round.

The Spurs are only ALLOWED to pay $350K towards his buyout.

[vanvannen]

Oh they definitely want someone else to have him. That's why they have been shopping him like crazy. But I guess no one thinks that highly of him (they aren't willing to give up the first round pick) and the Spurs don't think they should settle for a second round pick.

What I don't get is why the Spurs think he is not worth bringing over but on the other hand don't want to give him away for less than a 1st round pick.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

FUCK, he's 26 and his damn prime years are being spent fukin overseas



Spurs just need to spend the money on this guy and see what happens

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs are only ALLOWED to pay $350K towards his buyout.

500K but I get your point.


What I don't get is why the Spurs think he is not worth bringing over but on the other hand don't want to give him away for less than a 1st round pick.

They probably think he's a good player for someone and worth a first round pick. However, they don't think that he is a good fit for the Spurs. In recent reports in the Express-News, they have said that the Spurs don't need another power forward to play behind Duncan. So I guess they don't think he'd be a good fit playing next to Duncan.

[conqueso]

The Spurs are only ALLOWED to pay $350K towards his buyout.

For superfedja, here is a recap of the things we can reasonably say for sure about the situation with Scola.

Scola's buyout is about $4 million. He says he wants to pay it. Spurs can only cover about $500,000 of the buyout. Since that leaves about $3,500,000 for Scola to pay out of his own pocket, he will want a big contract from whoever he plays for, probably somewhere close to the full Mid-Level Exception. Spurs want to hold on to that for now and not blow it all before the signing period even begins, perhaps saving it to spend on another free agent. Scola really wants to come to the NBA, but the Spurs won't take him this year. Next year, they will have his rights for a much cheaper sum. So Scola or his agent or the Spurs or all three want to make a trade happen. Problem is, he isn't worth the buyout, plus the big contract to indirectly cover the buyout, plus a draft pick. He is a great Euro player, but he is a big question mark when it comes to the NBA, so another team isn't likely to give up a valuable first round pick for a guy they will have to give the full MLE to and who is completely unproven. The problem is further compounded by the fact that the Spurs see a lot of potential in him and don't want to give up on the guy without getting something meaningful in return. Cash or future considerations are not an even trade in the Spurs minds since they think Scola will be a balla, and they don't do enough to reward the Spurs foresight in scouting and drafting him. He could be a force in the L, but no one who wants his rights is willing to trade something tangible to the Spurs for a player that is potentially good.

As you can see, this isn't Holt or R.C. or Pop being a cheap asshole. This is good business. Don't pay more for something than it's worth, but don't give up something for nothing. I feel sorry for Scola, but I don't think it was the Spurs who fucked him. Maybe it was bad advice from an agent, but shit, he's a fucking adult, he's accountable for his own mistakes. It's fine to feel sorry for him, but don't get pissed at the Spurs for not giving out what amounts to charity to some guy when they don't have to. You Spurs fans know this organization is better than to just intentionally screw some guy without a damn good reason. Shame on you for flipping out about this shit, especially when you don't understand all the facts.

[Fabbs]

Tau wants him to stay and he has 2 years left there. I don't think it's any kind of negotiating manuever. Maybe next summer it would be.

Could you clarify something once and for all for a bunch of us.
Next summer, do the Spurs have to pay anything or do anything to have Scola come to the Spurs? Many think the $$ amount is zero and he is free to come to SA without any further contract obligation to Tau.

[Kori Ellis]

Next year, they will have his rights free and clear.


Could you clarify something once and for all for a bunch of us.
Next summer, do the Spurs have to pay anything or do anything to have Scola come to the Spurs? Many think the $$ amount is zero and he is free to come to SA without any further contract obligation to Tau.

He is under contract with Tau for 2 more seasons. So next summer, he still has a buyout. I don't know how much that is -- that's up to his negotiations with Tau.

[Mr. Body]

I don't know why next summer would be any different a situation, the buyout should be the same amount. Maybe then TAU sees the writing on the walls and wants some money for him, maybe they play utter hardball.

[Obstructed_View]

It's probably a smart tactic by Scola's agent to act pissed off and try to make the Spurs trade him out of desperation. Well, it would be a smart tactic if it were any other team. The Spurs hold their own in staredowns.

[strangeweather]

The Spurs hold their own in staredowns.
Maybe the recent wave of shower rod hangings by Spurs fans will swing things the other way.

[spurster]

Oh they definitely want someone else to have him. That's why they have been shopping him like crazy. But I guess no one thinks that highly of him (they aren't willing to give up the first round pick) and the Spurs don't think they should settle for a second round pick.
That really doesn't make much sense. To sign him, a team would have to offer a contract >> $4M so Scola can buyout. If they are willing to sign him up for that much, that would be more than a 1st rounder.

My guess is that Spurs wanted to include trading Barry (or another player) for a specific player on the other team.

[Kori Ellis]

That really doesn't make much sense. To sign him, a team would have to offer a contract >> $4M so Scola can buyout. If they are willing to sign him up for that much, that would be more than a 1st rounder.

My guess is that Spurs wanted to include trading Barry (or another player) for a specific player on the other team.

I don't know. Seems like the Spurs just wanted to trade him for a 1st rounder and cash considerations and no other team gave that.

[Kenneth Lay]

Scola is going to die of coronary artery disease before he steps foot in an nba court if he cant get out of that euro contract

[nkdlunch]

FUCK, he's 26 and his damn prime years are being spent fukin overseas



Spurs just need to spend the money on this guy and see what happens

Exactly. Not only that. The free-agent market is worse than last year. What the fuck? we need a couple of big defenders and right now we have jack shit. It's not the time to be a cheap-ass if we wanna go for a championship next year.

Yes he has a horrible contract but fuck, get over that shit already and sign the motherfucker.

When I heard Rasho and Nazr were gone I was 100% sure Scola was coming over. Now, I'm fucking pissed

[vanvannen]

500K but I get your point.



They probably think he's a good player for someone and worth a first round pick. However, they don't think that he is a good fit for the Spurs. In recent reports in the Express-News, they have said that the Spurs don't need another power forward to play behind Duncan. So I guess they don't think he'd be a good fit playing next to Duncan.

Ok, I get it. It's just that this guy is not getting any younger and his trade value will go down rather than up.

[Beer is Good]

What do people actually think Scola will do if the Spurs signed him? Put up 15 and 8 boards with great defense? I think you have to be pretty delusional to think this guy will add anything great next season over what the Spurs could get for cheaper. The team is already there. Not too much needed to add to the team, and a LOT of time to do it. And who say's Oberto can't play? The guy got shit minutes all year - no one is gonna perform playing 6 minutes a game if he plays at all. The Spurs wanted him to get his feet wet on NBA ball, next season will be his time to get minutes and perform. Give the guy a chance. You all have gotta be the same people who were CALLING for TP to be traded for Jason Kidd a couple of years ago. It's that kind of impatient bullshit that would have the Spurs only winning 16 games a year in no time.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

It's probably a smart tactic by Scola's agent to act pissed off and try to make the Spurs trade him out of desperation. Well, it would be a smart tactic if it were any other team. The Spurs hold their own in staredowns.

That would be interesting.

If he pulls some shit like that I could see the Spurs in effect ruining the prime of his career.

[venitian navigator]

This year we have to pay Javtokas.
Spurs and J. have already agreed (we'll see next 12 July) to a three years contract.
3 years means MLE.
He's supposed to be paid more than Oberto (he has more market value than Oberto had) so, at least, three / four milions a year.
So, where are the four millions for Scola ?
No way, in any case...
Next year is Scola Year (probably with the entire MLE!)

[Mr. Body]

Where did you see Javtokas making that much money? He's getting the LLE.

[picnroll]

If the agent is telling it straight Spurs were looking to trade Scola's right only for a 2007 first round pick not a 2006 pick. Interesting.

[venitian navigator]

Where did you see Javtokas making that much money? He's getting the LLE.

I always red that he's gonna be signing for three years...that means MLE not LLE.
He's the best European center, and considered like that in the market.
Oberto is paid 2,5 millions.
Garbajosa 4 millions.
At least, I'm sure he will be paid in the middle (also if, in perspective, he's worth more than Garbajosa because of his obvious nba game skills...see blocking and rebounding).
Less than 3 millions avery one of the three years, imho, would be an absolute steal...!

[conqueso]

He is under contract with Tau for 2 more seasons. So next summer, he still has a buyout. I don't know how much that is -- that's up to his negotiations with Tau.


Tau officials claim Scola must pay the original buyout if he wants to leave for the NBA or wait until his contract expires in three years when the buyout is reduced to $1 million.

That shit was printed one year ago. It's ambiguous though, since when his contract expires he won't have a buyout obviously. So it looks like next year his buyout will be $1 million, and E-N reported that as if it was a term written into the contract. We'll see though, but $1 million is doable, especially if we pick up half of it.

[Mr. Body]

Hmm... $1M is chump change.

[Obstructed_View]

That would be interesting.

If he pulls some shit like that I could see the Spurs in effect ruining the prime of his career.
Maybe, but the Spurs have usually been pretty good at keeping things from getting personal. I can't imagine they would waste any effort to "ruin" someone's career at the expense of the team. I'd be surprised if it develops into anything. The Spurs have a couple of back channels to Scola on the roster, which is probably a plus, too.

[ducks]

so next year is it one milllion?

[Cherry]

Exactly. Not only that. The free-agent market is worse than last year. What the fuck? we need a couple of big defenders and right now we have jack shit. It's not the time to be a cheap-ass if we wanna go for a championship next year.

Yes he has a horrible contract but fuck, get over that shit already and sign the motherfucker.

When I heard Rasho and Nazr were gone I was 100% sure Scola was coming over. Now, I'm fucking pissed




:lol :elephant :madrun :princess

[Kori Ellis]

This year we have to pay Javtokas.
Spurs and J. have already agreed (we'll see next 12 July) to a three years contract.
3 years means MLE.
He's supposed to be paid more than Oberto (he has more market value than Oberto had) so, at least, three / four milions a year.
So, where are the four millions for Scola ?
No way, in any case...
Next year is Scola Year (probably with the entire MLE!)

My guess is that Javtokas isn't getting any of the MLE. Otherwise they couldn't have offered the full MLE to Przybilla. I'm guessing that means Javtokas got the LLE.

[Mr. Body]

Getting a great center prospect like Javtokas for the LLE is a coup.

[Ninja-Defense]

Assuming the Spurs hang onto Scola's rights thru next season, what's wrong with bringing him over and permanently moving TD to center with Scola starting at PF? What do you pro-Scola guys think about that? It's probably already been mentioned but I think that tack could work out in the end if we just keep him...

[Kori Ellis]

Web Posted: 07/06/2006 09:48 PM CDT
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA070706.1D.BKNspurs.scola.1300a8f.html

One of the agents for Luis Scola accused the Spurs on Thursday of making the Argentine forward a "prisoner" because they don't intend to sign him this summer and have yet to trade his rights.

The Spurs drafted Scola in the second round in 2002. He has hoped to come to the NBA each of the past two seasons but has been unable to work out an agreement with the Spurs, in part because of the large buyout he has with his Spanish team, Tau Ceramica.

Spurs officials made it clear after the season they likely wouldn't sign Scola because they didn't want to invest in another power forward, especially after signing Fabricio Oberto, Scola's friend, last year and trading for Matt Bonner two weeks ago. They also are unsure how well Scola would play next to Tim Duncan, given that both like to work out of the post.

"In the country of liberty, Luis is a prisoner," Claudio Villanueva, one of Scola's three agents, told Argentine newspaper La Nación. "The Spurs do not utilize him, neither do they want to yield him to another team and they impede him to play in the NBA."

Spurs officials declined comment except to say they have not spoken to Villanueva. Instead, they have worked with Scola's U.S. agent, George Bass, for more than a month to find him another team.

Several executives from other NBA teams said the Spurs tried to use Scola's rights to move into the first round of last week's draft. They also have sought to secure a future first-round pick for him.

Cleveland and Memphis expressed some interest, but the talks never yielded an offer.

With Nazr Mohammed signing with Detroit and Rasho Nesterovic traded to Toronto, the Spurs are focused on finding a center to play next to Duncan. The pool of remaining NBA free-agent centers is small, so the Spurs have looked overseas.

Croatian center Nikola Vujcic, who helped lead Israel's Maccabi Tel Aviv to the Euroleague championship game this past season, is one of the best big men in Europe and previously has expressed interest in coming to the NBA.

Bob Myers, the agent for Utah's Jarron Collins — the top NBA free-agent center left on the market — called the Spurs "an attractive option" Thursday but also said Collins is assessing all opportunities. The Jazz have said they hope to re-sign him.

Milwaukee is trying to trade Jamaal Magloire but doesn't like what the Spurs have to offer.

Moving Duncan to center and signing Scola isn't being considered. Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.

Had the Spurs not signed Oberto last summer — when Scola's buyout was nearly four times as much as it is now — or if Scola were in position to sign for the $1.5 million Manu Ginobili drew for his first-year NBA salary, the Spurs would be more willing to gamble on Scola. Other teams also seem hesitant.

Scola has distinguished himself as one of Europe's top players, which, coupled with the success of Ginobili and Chicago forward Andres Nocioni, has made him into a mythical star among Spurs fans, most of whom have seen him play few, if any, games. NBA officials, however, seem split on how Scola would fare in the league.

One Eastern Conference general manager said the Spurs could do a lot worse than signing Scola. Others question whether he is athletic and big enough. A Western Conference executive said his team didn't have much interest in Scola in the 2002 draft and is even less interested now.

With the Spurs unwilling to sign him — and apparently unable to trade him — Scola said he would play for Tau.

"Luis is young; he is 26 years old," Villanueva told La Nación. "He can expect that next year he surely he will fulfill his dream."

[conqueso]

Assuming the Spurs hang onto Scola's rights thru next season, what's wrong with bringing him over and permanently moving TD to center with Scola starting at PF? What do you pro-Scola guys think about that? It's probably already been mentioned but I think that tack could work out in the end if we just keep him...

I have been hot about Scola for awhile, but I think I'm starting to understand leaving him in Europe. Not just from a financial standpoint either. I think moving Tim to Center as he starts to slow down with age is a good plan, but I think we need someone bigger and more athletic than Scola at PF, if just for the sake of defense. DRob proved that an over the hill big man can still make a huge impact on the defensive end, but only if he has another defensive stud to back him up. Javtokas is more of that type of player than Scola, but we don't really know yet whether either or them will be effective defensively in the NBA. Jav has the size and athleticism that Scola lacks a little bit, and that might be the reason why the Spurs are bringing him over and leaving Scola hanging out to dry. What the Spurs don't need is a big lump of dough in the lane, hence, the Rasho trade.

[Slinkyman]

Moving Duncan to center and signing Scola isn't being considered. Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.

WTF, Scola only wanted 3 million a year? fucking cheap spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

WTF, Scola only wanted 3 million a year? fucking cheap spurs.

They don't think he can play next to Duncan. So to them, he's not worth $3M a year. I don't get why Spurs fans don't get that.

[Slinkyman]

They don't think he can play next to Duncan. So to them, he's not worth $3M a year. I don't get why Spurs fans don't get that.

But Oberto who sucks big time and can't play with Tim either is worth 2.5 million?

[Kori Ellis]

But Oberto who sucks big time and can't play with Tim either is worth 2.5 million?

That's the point.

If Oberto wasn't here or if they could pay Scola 1.5M a year, then they'd be more apt to bring him here. But they don't think he's going to be starter material next to Tim and they already have some backup power forwards, so he's not worth $3M a year to them. They aren't willing to make a $10M gamble.

[ducks]

spurs learned their less paying big money for bench players like rose
to bad for scola

they tried to trade him for a month
cavs and mem never even offered anything for him

cavs would have lost like a 20-28 first round draft pick for him
ferry had alot of info on scola and did not even think he was worth it

[Buddy Holly]

Plans seemed to have changed:


The Spurs, for instance, traded away their pick this year to the Knicks (in the Nazr Mohammed deal), believing the draft would indeed be weaker because of a likely age limit. But that's not to say that general manager R.C. Buford won't be active this summer. We could well see a third Argentine on the Spurs' roster next year, as they are very optimistic they can finally sign veteran big man Luis Scola, whose rights they have. Scola, who plays in Spain, was thought to be coming to the Spurs this year, but buyout talks stalled and Argentine Fabricio Oberto was signed in his place (three years, $7.325 million with a player option for Year 3). Now, the Spurs are optimistic that Scola, Oberto, and Manu Ginobili will be on board next fall in what is starting to resemble Buenos Aires North.

[venitian navigator]

I don't know...I prefer to wait till next 12 july!
Then, we'll understand if Javtokas is signed with the MLE or with the LLE.
My take is he's gonna be signed with the MLE...otherwise it will be an absolute bargain for the two years (but, if he explode like a wonderful center...will we be able to keep him ?)
In case he's just signed with the LLE, in my opinion, ther's no more reason to let Scola in Europe...expecially if he wants to be paid just three millions a year for three years (so we have his bird rights).
The less he can be in the NBA game, is the first option for the inside game when TD is not on the floor...and just that is worth the signing at that price, at least just for a try.
And consider that his value could grow up considerably after a good performance in the incoming games!!!
So, if J. is signed with the LLE (wait till 12 July), sign him immediately for three years now at that cheap price...it's just a win win situation.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how about we signed scola, and keep on deferring the offense to him for the first half of teh season till trading deadline, then ship his ass in return for some draft picks :D:D:D

[spurster]

Several executives from other NBA teams said the Spurs tried to use Scola's rights to move into the first round of last week's draft. They also have sought to secure a future first-round pick for him.

Cleveland and Memphis expressed some interest, but the talks never yielded an offer.

That makes more sense. No other team was willing to trade very much for Scola.

[JGrice02]

The way I read it makes this even more puzzling. If the buyout is included in the contract, Scola's contract would only pay him $1.85 million a season over the contract's three years after you take out the $3.5 million buyout. That seems extremely cheap for what is supposed to be the best PF in European. It is almost identical to what Manu got his first couple of seasons.

There must be something else holding this up. The money should not be an issue. The Spurs don't look to have any good options this offseason but they still don't want Scola. And it sounds like enough teams are interested in Scola to talk but are not willing to give the Spurs what they want.

Seems contradictory that the Spurs don't think he is worth $1.85 million a season yet they expect another team to give up their first round draft pick for him. I think the Spurs have added to the problem that Scola created for himself. It sounds like their actions have devalued him as much as his attitude. It is an unfortunate situation, one I suspect the Spurs wish they had handled differently.

[jaffies]

Scola being held "prisoner" by Spurs (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=902&line=67729&spln=1)

Scola being held ''prisoner'' by Spurs

Luis Scola - F - SA

One of the agents for Luis Scola accused the Spurs on Thursday of making the Argentine forward a "prisoner" because they don't intend to sign him this summer and have yet to trade his rights.

The Spurs drafted Scola in the second round in 2002. He has hoped to come to the NBA each of the past two seasons but has been unable to work out an agreement with the Spurs, in part because of the large buyout he has with his Spanish team, Tau Ceramica. The Spurs also don't want to lock into another power forward, especially after signing Fabricio Oberto and Matt Bonner. The Spurs are said to be trying to move Scola, but nothing has transpired as of yet. Jul. 7 - 11:49 am et

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

leeeeet my Scola goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[waly.mg]

That´s the Reality of the NBA for the Big Guys

If they played in the NBA 10 minutes, they must to sign at least for the MLE
If they played in Europe, they must to sign for the LLE

That´s not correct

Oberto in Europe always was a better Center than Javtokas, and both were good Player in Europe, but not one of the Bests

Yesterday #1 Bargnani score 10 Points in the First Q, and Scola is better player than Bargnani in Europe

The last Scola-Bargnani game was:

http://www.euroleague.net/stats/statsPartido.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=12&partido=134

Scola: 16 Points (7/10: 70% FG) and 5 Rebounds, 4 Assits and 3 Steal and no TO
Bargnani: 13 Points (5/10 FG, included 1/5 3FG), 3 RB, 1 As, 2 TO

Scola in the Euroleague is a All-Euroleague First Team, and the Best PF of Europe, he was a All OLympics Second Team, only behind TD as PF, but with better numbers

Probably he can be one of the Best PF of the NBA, but he can be a very good PF, probably there aren´t in the NBA 20 PF better than him

[ducks]

I wonder if duncan does not like scola