Dallas Mavericks Get Owned

[timvp]

The Denver Nuggets beat the Mavericks 113-85. The Nuggets were up 30 at half and romped _allas. No word yet who Cuban blames for the loss

Summer league is fantastic.

:smokin

In other news, Steve Novak destroys LaMarcus Aldridge. Aldridge goes for 8 points and 3 rebounds in 33 minutes, while Novak explodes for 22 points and 5 rebounds. Chris Mihm, Jr. not off the the most blazing of starts in summer league.



P.S.

This'll be the official Vegas Summer League thread.

[TDMVPDPOY]

will it be broadcasts? on radio?

[ducks]

will it be on tv in one week?

[angel_luv]

No word yet who Cuban blames for the loss


:lol

[Mr. Body]

DraftExpress is carrying recaps. They're pretty good.

LaMarcus Aldridge, unsurprisingly, is passive and doesn't do much.

John Lucas III looks like a decent point guard. Rockets shoot very well.

Dallas looks punch drunk from the finals still, trickled down to the scrubs trying to make the team. They were out of sorts with little communication.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dude, he has been spending the past 2 months in a posh uptown Dallas apartment smoking the finest Canadian chiba, he's outta shape. Chris Mihm, Jr? That's low, even for you :smchode:

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Roy's stats looked good

[ducks]

http://www.vegassummerleague.com/
for people who want to look at boxscores

[Mr. Body]

Just a note - if this is to be the Summer League thread, perhaps a different title?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

whats the story with Josh Davis? Is he someone the Spurs would be interested in?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

its good to see Martell showing his stuff for the Blazers. That kid has a very sweet shot

[jman3000]

Just a note - if this is to be the Summer League thread, perhaps a different title?

I think that would defeat the purpose of what timvp is trying to do.

[Kori Ellis]

Here's the summer league TV schedule.

http://www.nba.com/news/summerleagues2006.html

The games are delayed by a week or more, but it's still good.

[FromWayDowntown]

its good to see Martell showing his stuff for the Blazers. That kid has a very sweet shot

My Dynasty League 1 team hopes he'll find a way to show that from November through April and not just in Vegas in the summer time.

[Kori Ellis]

Here's Draftexpress' recap of the day.

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1395

[Mr. Body]

I think that would defeat the purpose of what timvp is trying to do.

Huh? What's timvp trying to do? Not make it clear to people perusing the boards that this covers summer league? So maybe they can start superfluous threads on the topic or something?

[timvp]

Just a note - if this is to be the Summer League thread, perhaps a different title?

What's better therapy than seeing "Dallas Mavericks Get Owned" for the next couple weeks? Spurs fans need something.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

me thinks the Nuggets will pick up Jacobsen, goodness knows we cant find a shooter any other way :lol May as well just take on a low risk player who has been dumped by other teams

[FromWayDowntown]

What's better therapy than seeing "Dallas Mavericks Get Owned" for the next couple weeks? Spurs fans need something.

:tu

[ducks]

nugget spurs will give you barry (shooter) for melo
ok

[Mr. Body]

okay. *shrugs*

other news, Ron Artest is a no show for the Minnesota - Sacramento.

OR SO THEY'D LIKE YOU TO THINK.

[spurschick]

What's better therapy than seeing "Dallas Mavericks Get Owned" for the next couple weeks? Spurs fans need something.

I know it made me smile. :spin

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

nugget spurs will give you barry (shooter) for melo
ok

:lol nah Jon laid the Barry mark on the Nuggets, i dont think Brent could live up to the expectations :lol :smokin

[angel_luv]

What's better therapy than seeing "Dallas Mavericks Get Owned" for the next couple weeks? Spurs fans need something.


Word! :fro

[Das Texan]

When did Texas last produce a decent big man?


LaSalle Thompson? If you want to consider him decent that is. I only remember parts of his career these days.

[ducks]

lol

[J.T.]

Deceiving thread title. I figured Dirk's leg was eaten by a shark and Hasselhoff wasn't there in time to save him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dude, he has been spending the past 2 months in a posh uptown Dallas apartment smoking the finest Canadian chiba, he's outta shape. Chris Mihm, Jr? That's low, even for you

:lol

[Bob Lanier]

Question for any of the Kings fans: has Justin Williams been offered a contract?

[spurs=bling]

Deceiving thread title. I figured Dirk's leg was eaten by a shark and Hasselhoff wasn't there in time to save him.
:lol :lol

[SequNets]

The Spurs have a shitty lineup and are on TV once.

Nice moves Pop.

[MissAllThat]

Deceiving thread title. I figured Dirk's leg was eaten by a shark and Hasselhoff wasn't there in time to save him.

:lol

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs have a shitty lineup and are on TV once.

Nice moves Pop.

What are you talking about? We get to see Sanikidze and Mahinmi in action plus we have some other intriguing players... a couple guys who could have been drafted... Maceo Baston...

Who was our big player last summer, the only guy worth a very little damn?

Sweet shooting Britton Johnsen.

[DallasFan]

Look at the lineups...never even heard of any of those guys. They won't be Mavs for long...Summer League? Gimme a break...looks like our newest member (Ager) outscored everyone else... :smokin

[ChumpDumper]

Mavfan shits on SL, then edits to find the silver lining.


Ignoring that his boy got outscored by Casey Jacobsen... :fro

[Mr. Body]

How did Bingo Merriex do for Dallas? That guy has to either be a '70s MLB lefthanded reliever or a hockey player.

I thought they had Pops Mensah-Bonsu. Not much out of him, eh?

[DallasFan]

Mavfan shits on SL, then edits to find the silver lining.


It had to be in there somewhere... :drunk

[DallasFan]

:lol

Did you guys sign up some help for LeBron?

[ChumpDumper]

It's interesting that Anthony Grundy is on the Mavs' team in Vegas and Atlanta's in the RMR after the Hawks passed on making him a qualifying offer.

[Brutalis]

Spurs are gunna be in what summer league this year??

[scott]

It certainly makes up for them eliminating us in the playoffs on our home court.

[Trainwreck2100]

It certainly makes up for them eliminating us in the playoffs on our home court.

Actually the screwjob they got after the screwjob we got made up for that.

[jman3000]

Actually the screwjob they got after the screwjob we got made up for that.
Truer words have never been spoken.

[DallasFan]

Truer words have never been spoken.

...so we both got screwed :lol

[furry_spurry]

I know it is only the Summer League, but Bargnani already has 16-18 points at halftime of his first Summer League game. Of course he will have to work hard on his defense- that's what Rasho will be there for.

[Trainwreck2100]

Andrea is a girl's name

[jman3000]

Randall is a boy's name, but I know a girl named Randall and she is super hot.

I don't know why I posted that.

[spurs=bling]

Randall is a boy's name, but I know a girl named Randall and she is super hot.

I don't know why I posted that.
okay what does this have do with the thread?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Andrea is a girl's name
:lmao

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Is Javtokas going to be in the summer league?

[Pero]

Randall is a boy's name, but I know a girl named Randall and she is super hot.

I don't know why I posted that.

Yeah, I don`t know why you posted that... Without PICS!!! :)

:ttiwwp:

[polandprzem]

What's better therapy than seeing "Dallas Mavericks Get Owned" for the next couple weeks? Spurs fans need something.

Yea - I feel so much better that Dallas was owned and another team is better then a team which have beaten the spurs.



[Btw. You won't get that much of a intrest calling a thread summerleauge]
^^^
That's not to you timvp

[Quadzilla99]

FYI: Mavs have a Summer league game on NBATV next Thursday at 9:00 versus the Rockets. Only Summer League game on NBATV this week.

[Kori Ellis]

Updates on Day 2 of LV Summer League

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1396

[Bruno]

It looks like Sharrod Ford is doing well. Maybe we should sign him for the training camp if he's available.

[ducks]

http://www.vegassummerleague.com/game_recap.cfm?game=55

The New York Knicks beat the Cleveland Cavaliers, 95-71, behind a 19-0 second quarter run that broke the game open for the Knicks. The Knicks held the Cavaliers without a field goal for over eight minutes in the second quarter as they went from trailing 24-32 to a 43-32 advantage.

The Knicks three first-round draft picks from last season combined for 62 of the 95 Knicks points. Nate Robinson led the Knicks in scoring with a game-high 23 points (5-11 FG, 10-13 FT), David Lee chipped in 20 points (7-8 FG, 6-6 FT) and eight rebounds, while Channing Frye added 19 points (8-17 FG) and five rebounds. Rookie Renaldo Balkman had six points (2-3 FG) and four rebounds in his Knick debut before leaving the game at the 6:30 mark of the third quarter after rolling his left ankle.

Sasha Pavlovic led the Cavaliers in scoring with 20 points (6-16 FG, 7-10 FT). Sharrod Ford had 18 points (5-11 FG) and eight rebounds, while Martynas Andriuskevivius pitched in 10 points (3-6 FG).

The Knicks finished the game shooting 49 percent (31-63 FG), while the Cavs shot 43 percent (31-63 FG). The Knicks forced the Cavs into 15 turnovers, resulting in a 22-5 advantage in points off of turnovers.

[Solid D]

I saw on the news that the San Antonio Silver Stars owned Houston by 20 tonight.... and as we all know, any time a San Antonio team owns a team from Houston, it's a good thing.

Some of us go way back with Houston teams (Billy Paultz, Ice and Jimmy Si Spurs versus Rockets' Robert Reid...the Hakeem v. David duels of the 90s....yes and don't forget the Iguanas v. Aeros :lol with some great fights even between fans down at the Joe & Harry Freeman).

[dknights411]

You know, the preseason doesn't matter. But the PRE-preseason?


...and don't forget the Iguanas v. Aeros :lol with some great fights even between fans down at the Joe & Harry Freeman).

lol, yeah. Too bad the Rampage suck major ass now.

[NorCal510]

this is spurs related? how?

[ChumpDumper]

Ford was in training camp last season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

we are all witnesses

[LEONARD]

Worst thread ever? :drunk

[Mr. Body]

As far as points go, both John Lucas and Jose Juan Barrea have been the stand-outs, even dominant. I don't know if the Spurs are committed to CJ Watson or not.

[timvp]

As far as points go, both John Lucas and Jose Juan Barrea have been the stand-outs, even dominant. I don't know if the Spurs are committed to CJ Watson or not.

Yeah who woulda thunk it?

:pctoss

[Mr. Body]

I still haven't seen him. It sounds like he's a Jameer Nelson type maybe - who also dominated the ball in college but turned it around in the pros.

[polandprzem]

this is spurs related? how?

All the players that are playing in NBA, college or High school or in NBDL can play for the spurs in the future....

[IcemanCometh]

summer league is indicative of pretty much nothing and fairly worthless. they are barely controlled scrimmages.

[Mr. Body]

summer league is indicative of pretty much nothing and fairly worthless. they are barely controlled scrimmages.

They can show the general worth of a player against similar talent, same as any NCAA, NBDL or Euroleague game. Does the player shrink and get scared when he goes against Amare Stoudamire? Does he jack up every shot? Does he look like he knows what he's doing?

Summer league can be invaluable.

[timvp]

summer league is indicative of pretty much nothing and fairly worthless. they are barely controlled scrimmages.

[MI21]

Not sure how important Summer League is for high draft picks and such.

LeBron sucked dog nuts in his Summer League play.

[Bruno]

Kings have signed Amundson.

And it sucks for Spurs not to have a team as Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the first summer league and best undrafted players sign contract if they played well with their team.
At Denver we have only the second choice.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Kings have signed Amundson.

And it sucks for Spurs not to have a team as Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the first summer league and best undrafted players sign contract if they played well with their team.
At Denver we have only the second choice.

We don't have to have a team there to sign guys we like.

[Bruno]

We don't have to have a team there to sign guys we like.

They signed him because he was doing great with their SL team.
Guys you like receive a SL invitation, not a training camp contract.
Las Vegas is the first SL (if you don't convince teams you can still try next SL) and the biggest one (most exposure), best undrafted players want to play here.

When an undrafted player is doing great in SL, he receives an offer from the team for who he plays.

Spurs don't have a team in Las Vegas. Either they sign a player to a training camp contract before LV (before seing what the player will do in SL), either they have only players who wasn't great in LV.

It sucks not to have a team in LV.

[mabber]

They can show the general worth of a player against similar talent, same as any NCAA, NBDL or Euroleague game. Does the player shrink and get scared when he goes against Amare Stoudamire? Does he jack up every shot? Does he look like he knows what he's doing?

Summer league can be invaluable.

Absolutely! Do ya think teams make all their prospects and deep bench players participate in the summer league (then scout the games heavily) just to have something to do in the offseason? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

They signed him because he was doing great with their SL team.The article I read said he signed the deal shortly after the draft, not after any games.
It sucks not to have a team in LV.Whatever the first SL is, I'd prefer to be there. Still there's little value unless they are on our own SL team.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They signed him because he was doing great with their SL team.
Guys you like receive a SL invitation, not a training camp contract.
Las Vegas is the first SL (if you don't convince teams you can still try next SL) and the biggest one (most exposure), best undrafted players want to play here.

When an undrafted player is doing great in SL, he receives an offer from the team for who he plays.

Spurs don't have a team in Las Vegas. Either they sign a player to a training camp contract before LV (before seing what the player will do in SL), either they have only players who wasn't great in LV.

It sucks not to have a team in LV.

I'm sorry Bruno, but you couldn't be more wrong on this. Spurs have scouts crawling all over that place watching games and going to practices when they can.

When an undrafted player is doing great in SL, he receives an offer from the first team who gives him one.

It wasn't SL, but the Spurs had Haslem playing on their RMR squad a couple of years ago, Miami showed up and handed him a contract, and he was on a plane to Miami the next day.

[Bruno]

The article I read said he signed the deal shortly after the draft, not after any games.

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/Kings_Sign_Amundson_to_Contrac-184052-58.html

They sign him on July 8.

[ChumpDumper]

We certainly could've offered a deal as well, the fact is Sacramento was on him right after the draft.

Not us.

[Bruno]

We certainly could've offered a deal as well, the fact is Sacramento was on him right after the draft.

Not us.

Sacramento offered him a deal for a SL and a deal for LV is better than a deal for RMR.


I'm sorry Bruno, but you couldn't be more wrong on this. Spurs have scouts crawling all over that place watching games and going to practices when they can.

When an undrafted player is doing great in SL, he receives an offer from the first team who gives him one.

It wasn't SL, but the Spurs had Haslem playing on their RMR squad a couple of years ago, Miami showed up and handed him a contract, and he was on a plane to Miami the next day.

Maybe I'm wrong but if a player plays great and received more than one offer, he will sign with the team for who he plays. If the team for who he plays doesn't want him, other teams can get him but my point is that the team for who he plays has a kind of priority on the player.

[ChumpDumper]

Sacramento offered him a deal for a SL and a deal for LV is better than a deal for RMR.You act like we offerrred him something. There's nothing to indicate we did.

[Bruno]

You act like we offerrred him something. There's nothing to indicate we did.

I haven't a clue if we did.
I just say that if we want to get after a top undrafted guy, a RMR invitation is less atractive than a LV invitation. A team that play in LV has a edge on us.

[ChumpDumper]

There was nothing stopping us from giving him a deal on July 6 or 7.

[Bruno]

There was nothing stopping us from diving him a deal on July 6 or 7.

Before the LV SL ?

[ChumpDumper]

It started the 6th.

[Bruno]

Sure we can offer a contract before Sacramento but it will be based on less games.
My knowledge of SL is weak but I haven't the memory of a player signing with another team while the team for who he plays is interested in him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Maybe I'm wrong but if a player plays great and received more than one offer, he will sign with the team for who he plays. If the team for who he plays doesn't want him, other teams can get him but my point is that the team for who he plays has a kind of priority on the player.

You're wrong. He can sign with whoever he wants in that situation.

[Bruno]

You're wrong. He can sign with whoever he wants in that situation.

I know there isn't a rule in the cba, but I think too that there are a kind gentleman rule (and I know that nba is a business) : the player give the priority to the team that gave him a chance to play in a SL.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I know there isn't a rule in the cba, but I think too that there are a kind gentleman rule (and I know that nba is a business) : the player give the priority to the team that gave him a chance to play in a SL.

Right, just like they see how much money a team has for free agency and always offer to take half so that the team can sign another player to make it better.

[Bruno]

Right, just like they see how much money a team has for free agency and always offer to take half so that the team can sign another player to make it better.

Except that the player didn't lose money by giving the priority to the team for who he plays.

[ChumpDumper]

The Mavs are getting owned in two leagues now.

The Lakers beat them 97-69 at the Pyramid.

[timvp]

The Mavs are getting owned in two leagues now.

The Lakers beat them 97-69 at the Pyramid.

Maybe this thread should remained pinned for the rest of eternity.

:smokin

[ChumpDumper]

There's a DeAngelo Collins sighting - he pulled down some boards for the Mavs.

I'd give Marcus Douthit a look if the Lakers don't pick him up.

[timvp]

There's a DeAngelo Collins sighting - he pulled down some boards for the Mavs.

I'd give Marcus Douthit a look if the Lakers don't pick him up.

Douthit was good the last time I watched him play. Problem is, I don't know if the Spurs would go for a guy dumb enough to get arrested for being caught in an identity theft scam. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I thought it was insurance fraud, but I see your point.

[timvp]

Marcus Douthit, a second-round draft pick of the Los Angeles Lakers out of Providence College, was charged on Thursday with taking part in a wide-ranging identity theft and embezzlement scam and pocketing several thousand dollars.

Looks like he did a little bit of everything.

[spurs_love_dyck]

Summer league. Enough said.

[Kori Ellis]

Summer league. Enough said.

Yes, it's a thread about summer league.

[ChumpDumper]

Orlando's summer league has a live webcam covering the games if anyone is interested.

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/06summerleague.html

Walter Hermann is listed as playing for the Bobcats against Miami currently.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Mavs get owned again - this time by Houston. Both teams played their main guys over 30 minutes. Sometimes they take these games seriously.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LaMarcus leads his team in rebounds and assists against Minnesota, whawhaaaat


He's playing like a pansy too :lol

[LakerHater]

summer league?

[Shank]

You must be the same people that bet on preseason football.

[Amarelooms]

So sad for Spurs homers to get stoked about the Mavs losing in summer league ball.....very sad indeed. In addition to have this thread posted as a "sticky" is a new low i must say....congrats I guess lol.

[Kori Ellis]

So sad for Spurs homers to get stoked about the Mavs losing in summer league ball.....very sad indeed. In addition to have this thread posted as a "sticky" is a new low i must say....congrats I guess lol.


Nobody's stoked. It's a fucking joke.

And it's stickied because it's the official thread to talk about the Vegas summer league.

[Amarelooms]

Also, anyone looking at the box scores can tell the Mavs are spreading minutes out more while other teams seem to playing 5-6 players the majority of the game.

[Kori Ellis]

Also, anyone looking at the box scores can tell the Mavs are spreading minutes out more while other teams seem to playing 5-6 players the majority of the game.

Like I just said, it's a joke. Get over it.

[Amarelooms]

Nobody's stoked. It's a fucking joke.

And it's stickied because it's the official thread to talk about the Vegas summer league.

Well maybe the title shouldn't be "mavs get owned".......

[Kori Ellis]

Well maybe the title shouldn't be "mavs get owned".......

Umm ... that's the part that's a joke.

[Leetonidas]

So sad for Spurs homers to get stoked about the Mavs losing in summer league ball.....very sad indeed. In addition to have this thread posted as a "sticky" is a new low i must say....congrats I guess lol.

First of all, no one is stoked, it's all just fun, and you're getting your panties in a knot like a 14 year old girl on PMS. Secondly, it got pinned because it's the official Summer League thread.

[Amarelooms]

First of all, no one is stoked, it's all just fun, and you're getting your panties in a knot like a 14 year old girl on PMS. Secondly, it got pinned because it's the official Summer League thread.

Mavs got OWNED BY THE ROCKETS 70-71!!!!!! However Pops Mensah-Bonsu scored 3 points in 18 mins so he might have some potential....time will tell.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Well maybe the title shouldn't be "mavs get owned".......
The whole point of this thread is to keep track of the prospects on the summer league roster. BFD the threads title is "mavs get owned" its a joke. Your a joke if you let it get to you.

[Amarelooms]

Check out Kevin Martin's (Kings) stat line....the 20-24 is free throws. Has the league ordained him the Dwyane Wade of the Summer league? lol

23 Kevin Martin, G 33 3-8 1-1 20-24 0 7 7 1 0 0 4 2 27

[Kori Ellis]

Check out Kevin Martin's (Kings) stat line....the 20-24 is free throws. Has the league ordained him the Dwyane Wade of the Summer league? lol

23 Kevin Martin, G 33 3-8 1-1 20-24 0 7 7 1 0 0 4 2 27


Yeah I saw that too.

Also Brandon Hunter (Cavs team) went to the line a crazy amount. That's ridiculous.

[ChumpDumper]

What a bunch of pussies.

BTW, Mavs get blown out again in Long Beach 113-82. Glyniadakis seems like he's performing pretty steadily for Memphis. I think he's gotten to the line in summer league more than Rasho did in his career as a Spur.

[dav4463]

Cuban shouldn't have pushed for all the rules changes....emphasizing the fouls called on hand checks, minor bumps, etc. It came back to bite him in the finals.....and it has made the game ugly....too many FTA's is boring....

[mabber]

Cuban shouldn't have pushed for all the rules changes....emphasizing the fouls called on hand checks, minor bumps, etc. It came back to bite him in the finals.....and it has made the game ugly....too many FTA's is boring....

He didn't, all he did and is doing is calling for better quality control for the officiating. He wants more accountability from the officials. He hasn't asked for any specific rule changes.

[picnroll]

He didn't, all he did and is doing is calling for better quality control for the officiating. He wants more accountability from the officials. He hasn't asked for any specific rule changes.
That's not what he claimed on the Letterman show where he took personal credit for not allowing periemter penetrators to be breathed on.

[mabber]

That's not what he claimed on the Letterman show where he took personal credit for not allowing periemter penetrators to be breathed on.

Then maybe I'm wrong but I had just read & heard that he was mostly pushing for a better quality control system for the officiating.

[picnroll]

I've tried to make it more fun, but we've changed the rules around some," Cuban said. "I mean, the game got to a point where it really, it slowed down, and then they went through a whole set of rules changes, which really helped, and then these past couple years, I really got involved to outlaw all the handchecking and all the beating up of guys on the perimeter, so now the game's gotten a lot smoother, so you've got superstars like Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki who can take the ball to the hoop without all of that old Knicks ball, the old Pat Riley stuff, where they'd just beat up on people. So, we changed it up some."

link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2006/06/14/bc.bkn.cuban.letterman.ap/index.html)

Smoother if you consider Dirk, Wade and LeBron parading to the FT line 25 times a game smoother.

[Mr. Body]

I also like how it was suddenly implemented in the second round of the playoffs and no one had time to adjust to it.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Boston Celtics 95

Toronto Raptors 49

After three quarters.

[Mr. Body]

Boston Celtics 95

Toronto Raptors 49

After three quarters.

And the Bargnani legend grows...

[diego]

Hermann played his first summer league game with the bobcats, i dont have the line, but it wasnt bad for his first outing, i think it was something like 19min, 7pts, 4 brds, 1 stl 1 TO. i'll have to keep an eye on him.

[dav4463]

I've tried to make it more fun, but we've changed the rules around some," Cuban said. "I mean, the game got to a point where it really, it slowed down, and then they went through a whole set of rules changes, which really helped, and then these past couple years, I really got involved to outlaw all the handchecking and all the beating up of guys on the perimeter, so now the game's gotten a lot smoother, so you've got superstars like Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki who can take the ball to the hoop without all of that old Knicks ball, the old Pat Riley stuff, where they'd just beat up on people. So, we changed it up some."

link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2006/06/14/bc.bkn.cuban.letterman.ap/index.html)

Smoother if you consider Dirk, Wade and LeBron parading to the FT line 25 times a game smoother.



Thanks for the exact quote from the Letterman show.

That is what I find funny about it.....Cuban takes credit for rule changes that played a MAJOR role in the Mavs getting by the Spurs. He wasn't complaining then, but when it came back and went against him....then he complains...BIG TIME ! It is funny when you change the rules to benefit you and then get burned by those same rules!

[ChumpDumper]

Aaron Miles had another good game off the bench today -- 19 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover. Draft Express expands on what I said about him at the end of the D-League season:

Miles has shown plenty of improvement over the past year, particularly in his offensive game. Always an imposing defender and consummate floor general, Miles has been incredibly aggressive in taking the ball to the basket and getting to the free throw line. Miles now utilizes a wider arsenal of ball-handling and hesitation moves, being more motivated to get into the paint and find his own shot. It appears that he realizes that this is what it will take to make the NBA, and even if he gets his shot blocked on occasion, he’s helping himself a lot by doing so.

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1405

Chicago doesn't need another point guard.

We do.

[mabber]

Mavs rookie Ager off to strong start
Maurice Ager has been enjoying a hot summer, and it's looking like he might find himself in a position to help the Mavericks right away



02:07 AM CDT on Wednesday, July 12, 2006
By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News



The story, apparently, was either embellished or flat-out exaggerated.

It happened in Maurice Ager's junior season at Michigan State. He was getting ready for a big regular-season game against Duke and, by some accounts, began hyperventilating.

This was not out of character for Ager. He's an emotional person. Sometimes, he gets too excited, which he admits works for and against him.

As his college coach, Tom Izzo, once said: "Maurice would hyperventilate if he was going to the prom. He's just excited about life."

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Ager, of course, doesn't think the story has been accurately portrayed.

"Sometimes before games, you're just excited to play," he said. "But I don't know about hyperventilating. I think that's a little extreme. Hyperventilating, you're shaking and stuff. I don't think it came to that.

"But I'm always excited to play. That can be my strength and it can be my weakness. Sometimes I go off too fast. But I'm learning every day."

He's doing so with the Mavericks' summer-league team. He has averaged 20 points in three games to lead the Mavericks in the Toshiba Vegas Summer League.

Ager, the 28th pick in the NBA draft last month, appears to be headed toward a significant role with the Mavericks next season. With the trade of Marquis Daniels, Ager has a chance to earn minutes in the backcourt.

Summer league is nothing more than a chance for a young player to get a feel for the NBA. It's like training wheels.

But the Mavericks are genuinely high on Ager because of his athleticism, his slant toward the defensive end of the court and his fortitude, which is considerable.

"He's talented enough for this league and will be able to make an impact, simply because of the four years he had in school and his attitude and confidence," said Rolando Blackman, who is coaching the Mavs' summer squad. "He'll be able to help."

Emotion is a big part of the 6-5 Ager's life. He broke down and cried when the Mavericks selected him late in the first round.

Ager has felt the tug of emotions in other directions, too. His father died of lung cancer when Ager was a college freshman. Before that, the two weren't exactly close. But Ager learned to deal with it.

"He moved away when I was younger to take care of his father down south," Ager said. "I never held it against him. He had to do what he had to do. And my mom did a good job of raising me."

His mother, who is moving from Detroit to Dallas later this summer, and Izzo were the primary reasons Ager embraced the concept of accountability in life. He believes in looking at himself when things go wrong rather than blaming outside influences.

He knows Avery Johnson coaches the same way.

"That's cool," he said. "I can use that. Hopefully, he thinks I can take that and will treat me the same way. I think I did a good job with Coach Izzo, knowing what to take and what not to take."

And his religious upbringing won't hurt him with Johnson, either. Both coach and player know that having a hard edge and being spiritual aren't mutually exclusive.

"You can still be a Christian and still be tough," Ager said. "I play hard every day and don't take anything on the court."

Ager says he always knew he would be an NBA player. But a couple of games in his senior season solidified him as a legitimate pro prospect. He had 36 points in a triple-overtime loss to Adam Morrison and Gonzaga in a holiday tournament.


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Maurice Ager, driving to the basket during a Toshiba Vegas Summer League game, is averaging 20 points for the Mavericks. 'He's talented enough for this league and will be able to make an impact,' coach Rolando Blackman says of the No. 28 pick out of Michigan State.
More impressively, he came back the next night with 20 points in an overtime win over Arizona.

Two nights, two games. Those are NBA conditions, and Ager performed well in both.

"I'd forgotten how good he is," said Pops Mensah-Bonsu, who while at George Washington played against Ager and now is his teammate in the summer league. "I forgot how unstoppable he is when he gets the ball."

There is more good news for the Mavericks about Ager – he didn't end up in San Antonio. The Spurs wanted him and apparently tried to trade up to draft him.

"I've heard they're very disappointed that he ended up in Dallas," said Jim Boylen, the Michigan State assistant coach who spent 13 years in the NBA as an assistant.

That's interesting because the last time the Spurs were upset about the Mavericks taking a player they wanted, it was Josh Howard. He turned out to be a rising star and a key reason the Mavericks beat the Spurs in the second round of the playoffs last season.

If Ager can approach Howard's success, the Mavericks will have found another gem late in the first round of the draft

[Mr. Body]

There is more good news for the Mavericks about Ager – he didn't end up in San Antonio. The Spurs wanted him and apparently tried to trade up to draft him.

"I've heard they're very disappointed that he ended up in Dallas," said Jim Boylen, the Michigan State assistant coach who spent 13 years in the NBA as an assistant.

Is this true? I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't more Dallas Mavericks self-stroking, entirely made-up.

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Is this true? I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't more Dallas Mavericks self-stroking, entirely made-up.

Who knows for sure but it's a Michigan State assistant coach saying it.

[Mr. Body]

Who knows for sure but it's a Michigan State assistant coach saying it.

Might be repeating what Dallas told him.

[Obstructed_View]

But then Mark Cuban would cut off his own dick if someone told him the Spurs would be disappointed if he did it. The Spurs could express interest in crappy free agents just to make Cuban scoop them up.

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Hey, maybe that means the Mavs will go out and scoop up Elson now. I like that plan! :lol
He definitely fits the "crappy" description.

[Amarelooms]

Good news Spurs homers Mavs lost again...to the Kings by 23+. On a side note Pops Mensah-Bonsu had 13 points on 4-8 shooting. Look out for this guy....he's a star I tell ya.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't sell yourself short.

The Mavs got owned twice today.

Lakers 99 Mavs 87

[Shank]

Chump - what is the other league to which you're always referring?

[Shank]

And Sebastian Telfair with an unprecented 11 fouls in Wednesday's game. Genius.

[leemajors]

Chump - what is the other league to which you're always referring?

i think there's one in florida.

[Shank]

Summer Pro League in Socal. Though they're there by name, I really don't think the team is using that team as much of a measuring stick for camp invites. I recognize about 3 names off that roster.

Fishing around the rosters in that league, it's good to see Penny Hardaway getting some playing time. My, how the mighty have fallen.

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Summer Pro League in Socal. Though they're there by name, I really don't think the team is using that team as much of a measuring stick for camp invites. I recognize about 3 names off that roster.

Fishing around the rosters in that league, it's good to see Penny Hardaway getting some playing time. My, how the mighty have fallen.

Wow, what summer league team is he playing on? I miss the little Penny commercials :lol

[Shank]

Summer Pro League (http://www.summerproleague.com)

He's on the L. Smith Assoc. team.

[Kori Ellis]

Can we keep this thread to actual summer league discussion please?

As explained before, the original thread title was a JOKE. (I don't get why Mavs fans are so sensitive -- they beat the Spurs). This is the thread for talking about the LV Summer League (and other summer leagues I guess).

Stop with the nonsense.

And Eric Dampier AKA Chris Mihm ... keep your trolling in the troll forum, thanks.

By the way, the Mavs have a Rocky Mt Revue team, which starts tomorrow in Salt Lake. The Mavs always play in almost all the summer leagues ... Long Beach, Las Vegas (formerly Shaw in Boston), Rocky Mt Revue, etc. Cuban likes to have them field as many summer league teams as possible so their young talent and prospects can get as much game action as possible. It's a good idea, but other teams don't go to the expense of it and just field one (sometimes two) teams.

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Aaron Miles had another good game off the bench today -- 19 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover. Draft Express expands on what I said about him at the end of the D-League season:

Miles has shown plenty of improvement over the past year, particularly in his offensive game. Always an imposing defender and consummate floor general, Miles has been incredibly aggressive in taking the ball to the basket and getting to the free throw line. Miles now utilizes a wider arsenal of ball-handling and hesitation moves, being more motivated to get into the paint and find his own shot. It appears that he realizes that this is what it will take to make the NBA, and even if he gets his shot blocked on occasion, he’s helping himself a lot by doing so.

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1405

Chicago doesn't need another point guard.

We do.
A little late, eh CD?

Lord knows I hated Miles as a Texas fan, but I hated him cuz he was fuckin good. Good gambler, good D, solid pg.
Didn't expect him to be this good of a scorer though.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure I posted that before the Vaughn signing.

Miles is going to be in the NBA - he was one of the few guys in the D-League who could take care of the ball and now he's scoring. I understand the Spurs' going with a known quantity. If there's some kind of injury, though....

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To be honest, at first I never thought him NBA worthy, part of me still doesn't. He never showed a tendency to score like this except sporadically, then again he had a deep team with solid help.

If he really does break throguh as a good nba player, I was totally wrong about him from his early years.

He is tenacious though, nba scouts love that stuff.

[ChumpDumper]

Like I said, somewhere during last season someone (the Flyers' coach?) lit a fire under his ass to look for his own offense. The difference between the first and last time I saw him in Austin was night and day.

[ChumpDumper]

Timberwolves 86
Mavericks 76

Grizzlies 121
Mavericks 117

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Timberwolves 86
Mavericks 76

Grizzlies 121
Mavericks 117

Looks like the Mavs are improving. They might win a game before the league is over. :rolleyes

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Mavs 94
Hawks 93

Mavs 120
Wiz 99

Congratulations.