Rumor: Manu for KG

[IcemanCometh]

There's a rumor going around that the Spurs may send Manu to the Wolves for KG with other possible teams and players involved somehow to make the salaries work.

Now I don't believe this at all, but Minnesota has done dumb things in the past. And there have been worse trades before (Shaq for the worst players on the Heat). So nothing would surprise me.

Chicago is reportedly dangling Tyrus Thomas, Ben Gordon, and a first round draft pick which is alot more than we can offer unless we throw in Parker. Now of course Garnett could be forcing this trade, but why haven't we heard about him doing it? KGB Pop?

So take that for what you will, we're not going to get anyone at all in free agency. Our only chance for change is a trade. Why make any changes on a team that had the best record in the West and should have beaten the Mavs and Suns? Well our window is getting smaller and smaller for one, once Duncan is done this team is finished. They will reach a level of mediocrity seldom seen for this franchise unless Stern rigs the lottery for them again.

[midgetonadonkey]

lame

[DuncanInYourFace]

No way that's true. That'd be the most lopsided trade in history

[Quadzilla99]

Where did the rumor originate? Do you have a link?

[Slinkyman]

KG makes 21 million, we'd have to trade Manu, Parker, Barry and Horry to make that happen. If the NBA changes the rules so that it's 3 on 3 next season i say do it.

[kris]

I wouldn't do it, even if I could. I like Manu too much.

[Behrooz24]

:lol

[Trainwreck2100]

This is one of those coke binge established rumors.

[jman3000]

This is one of those coke binge established rumors.
my favorite.

[DuncanInYourFace]

I heard it on Miami radio today!

[JasonsGirl]

WTF? I don't believe that

[midgetonadonkey]

lame

[jman3000]

WTF? I don't believe that
:lmao


I would believe it if they made a time machine and they were talking about Rick.

[midgetonadonkey]

.

[danyel]

Nocioni, Garnett, Wallace that'd be a pretty sick frontcourt

[baseline bum]

Manu for Garnett? :lmao

Why would McHale trade in a Bentley for a Beamer?

[Kori Ellis]

It would only take Manu, Barry and Horry or Manu, Barry and Oberto to make the salaries close enough.

That being said, I don't think it's plausible.

[ducks]

someone told me today they would trade manu straight up for livingston

[Buddy Holly]

It would only take Manu, Barry and Horry or Manu, Barry and Oberto to make the salaries close enough.

That being said, I don't think it's plausible.

I'd do that in a second.

Maybe KG wants out really bad and is demanding a trade to SA.


Then I woke up.

I'd really hate to see Manu go.

[ducks]

aslong as tp is not included I would do it
I also would throw in scola

[Quadzilla99]

someone told me today they would trade manu straight up for livingston
We could do it. We can't trade consecutive first round picks, so all we'd have to do is throw in every other first round pick until 2090.

[ducks]

I wouldn't do it, even if I could. I like Manu too much.
liking manu is ok
trying to improve the spurs is better
I would not want to trade tp and manu
but I would trade tp for kg

[Buddy Holly]

It would only take Manu, Barry and Horry or Manu, Barry and Oberto to make the salaries close enough.

Are you sure? According to RealGM it'd take up to six Spurs to get Garnett.

That's if you exclude Tim and Tony.

[SenorSpur]

Please!!!!!!!!!

[Kori Ellis]

Are you sure? According to RealGM it'd take up to six Spurs to get Garnett.

That's if you exclude Tim and Tony.

That's odd.

Manu and Barry combine for over 13M. You should just have to get to 15M to make the trade work. That's within 25% of Garnett's 20M.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Oberto for Wallace. Straight Up.

[J.T.]

I would become a Mav Fan if that happened. F that trade idea.

[Buddy Holly]

That's odd.

Manu and Barry combine for over 13M. You should just have to get to 15M to make the trade work. That's within 25% of Garnett's 20M.


I thought it was 20%. Also, KG is making 21 million I believe.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Not that there's a snowball's chance in hell of this trade happening, but...

KG: 21 million

Manu: 8.25 million
Barry: 5.2 million
E. Williams: 4.3 million
=================
17.7 million

17.7 million * 125% = 22.1 million, so the trade would go through.

Throw in a couple of draft picks, the rights to Scola, and maybe McHale would go Isiah Thomas on us.

[Slinkyman]

I'd rather give up Parker then Manu and i think Parker's value is higher, but it would have to be for a stud PF that could play next to Tim. KG fits the bill but is too old and makes too much.

[ducks]

tp has a longer career ahead of him then manu

[picnroll]

The lack of Spurs' front office activity has obviously caused some to go over the edge. :lol

[Slinkyman]

tp has a longer career ahead of him then manu

But IMO he'll never be as good as Manu. He's a good scorer but to me he'll never be much more then that.

[ducks]

both were allstars

[ducks]

who is going to give kg and duncan the ball?

[Slinkyman]

who is going to give kg and duncan the ball?

Parker has a hard enough time getting Duncan the ball, we're not getting KG so i'm not even going to worry about it though.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

who is going to give kg and duncan the ball?

Make the trade and sign Marcus Banks with the MLE.

Why are we talking about it though? Our front office doesn't have the balls to do a deal like this, and I doubt McHale is dumb enough. Maybe if Isiah was in charge, but not Kevin.

[ducks]

so ahf would you give up manu and parker?
and then sign banks

[Kori Ellis]

I thought it was 20%. Also, KG is making 21 million I believe.

It's 25%. If it's 21M then Manu+Barry+Horry is about 200K short of working.

[Kori Ellis]

Where did this rumor come from anyway? This is the second thread about Manu for KG in the last few days.

[baseline bum]

That's odd.

Manu and Barry combine for over 13M. You should just have to get to 15M to make the trade work. That's within 25% of Garnett's 20M.

I thought it had to be 15% + $150,000

ie,

KG = $21,000,000


for

Manu = $8,250,000
Barry = $5,117,880
Williams = $4,296,000
+ $150,000
+ rights to Scola
+ 5000 lb red-hair
+ plane ticket for McHale to flee to Cuba

We'd still need to fit in an extra $36K in salary. Perhaps Udrih, Melvin Sanders, Oberto...


Was 25% something included under the newest CBA, because I'm almost certain it used to be 15%?

[Kori Ellis]

I thought it had to be 15% + $150,000

No, it changed last year.
It's 25% plus $100K now.

[Slinkyman]

Make the trade and sign Marcus Banks with the MLE.

Why are we talking about it though? Our front office doesn't have the balls to do a deal like this, and I doubt McHale is dumb enough. Maybe if Isiah was in charge, but not Kevin.

You're overrating McHale, he's the guy that gave Wally his crazy deal. He also tried paying Joe Smith under the table and i'm sure there more i just can't think of right now.

[IcemanCometh]

Where did this rumor come from anyway?

A little bird told me. I don't believe in it, but weirder things have happened. Who expected Shaq for Grant+ Odom?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

so ahf would you give up manu and parker?
and then sign banks

Both, no. It would suck to see Manu leave but we'd create the penultimate Twin Towers tandem of all time with that dela.

Manu
Barry
Eric Williams
Rights to Scola
2-3 draft picks in the coming years

[Quadzilla99]

You're overrating McHale, he's the guy that gave Wally his crazy deal. He also tried paying Joe Smith under the table and i'm sure there more i just can't think of right now.

Traded Cassell for Marko Jaric, signed Kandi Man, signed Hassell to a laughable contract...

[spurschick]

I'd want some serious first round picks for this to happen. KG just turned 30, which doesn't put us in any better position in terms of youth. Plus, who would be our starting 2... Finley? With Brent as backup? IMO, it's like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[Slinkyman]

Traded Cassell for Marko Jaric, signed Kandi Man, signed Hassell to a laughable contract...

gave mark madsen a five year deal

[baseline bum]

McHale is far and away the worst GM in the NBA. Marco Jaric has to be the worst signing I've ever seen. Everyone knew this guy was crap. I watched him all the time as a Clipper and hated him. I can't believe he has a job.

[gregpschneid]

I also heard they might trade the whole spurs team for the whole Heat team. What a Joke.

[ducks]

I'd want some serious first round picks for this to happen. KG just turned 30, which doesn't put us in any better position in terms of youth. Plus, who would be our starting 2... Finley? With Brent as backup? IMO, it's like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

you do realize spurs would be givign up the first round draft picks not the wolves

[JamStone]

The trade is only going down if the proposed Carlos Delfino, Dale Davis, Jason Maxiell, and team mascot Hooper for Kevin Garnett deal falls through between the Pups and the Pistons.

[baseline bum]

I'd want some serious first round picks for this to happen. KG just turned 30, which doesn't put us in any better position in terms of youth. Plus, who would be our starting 2... Finley? With Brent as backup? IMO, it's like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

You'd never get them. I'd make the trade in a second, with Fin starting at the 2. Imagine a better verison of the '99 team with an all-star point-guard. The only player who I wouldn't want to give up is Rob, because he's of no use to a team like the Wolves and because he's of great use to a title contender. Could you imagine Rob, KG, and Duncan on the floor together? No one would ever grab a defensive board against this team.

[spurschick]

Is this the point in the thread where Whott and Buddy Holly get into another bitchfest? :lol

[baseline bum]

Damn you Ice for starting this thread.

[JamStone]

By the way, Kevin McHale didn't just trade Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric. He also gave up a future first round draft pick in the deal to acquire Jaric.

Chew on that gem.

[Slinkyman]

By the way, Kevin McHale didn't just trade Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric. He also gave up a future first round draft pick in the deal to acquire Jaric.

Chew on that gem.

And people around here bitch that the spurs are wasting Tim's prime

[baseline bum]

By the way, Kevin McHale didn't just trade Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric. He also gave up a future first round draft pick in the deal to acquire Jaric.

Chew on that gem.

:lol

Someone's gotta make a top-10 list of McHale fuck-ups. KG just doesn't deserve it.

[El Fuego]

It's 25%. If it's 21M then Manu+Barry+Horry is about 200K short of working.

Does those salaries also include the trade kickers for manu and barry? I'm sure there trade kickers would put them over that 200k.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's not that I don't think McHale is dumb enough in the basketball sense to do something like this.

It's that even he'd have to realize he'd have to move to Siberia to hide from the TWolves fans.

[ducks]

why would a west team trade with a west team
giving up a guy like kg?

[spurs=bling]

not gonna happen.

[Quadzilla99]

I wonder how many posts this overblown complete farce can rack up.

[TDMVPDPOY]

would wolves accept orb+scolas rights+manu 1/5 of argentinas team? then all they have to do is sign hermann...etc

[Slinkyman]

This has as much a chance of happening as us finding someone to take Rasho for expiring contracts... oh wait.

[spurs=bling]

if a trade like this were to happen i would ask for the head of the person who made the deal.

[spurschick]

I wonder how many posts this overblown complete farce can rack up.

A result of so many teams being active in the offseason and the Spurs being relatively quiet. I think that most are in agreement that we were lucky to unload Rasho's contract and that Nazr's time was up, but it appears that everyone thought that all the FA big men would be jumping through hoops (no pun intended) to play here. Once that hole is filled to most everyone's satisfaction, I think that things will calm down. (I'm sure that's wishful thinking on my part.)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I wonder how many posts this overblown complete farce can rack up.

Why don't you go ask your boy Marc Cuban what he thinks?

[E20]

KG and Tim are the best bigmen as of right now. Now, call me pessmistic, but I think the Spurs have a worse of a chance of this coming through than me making the NBA. Don't get me wrong, I'm hella good at basketball, but I don't see the Wolves and Mchale commiting suicide by doing this.

[DirkAB]

Stop the insanity!

[JamStone]

Beno Udrih and Eva Longoria for Kevin Garnett.

[spurschick]

Beno Udrih and Eva Longoria for Kevin Garnett.

Done. I'll even throw in a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts and six-pack of Dos Equis.

[infinite styles]

Ok now if this went through who the hell would we have on the floor in the 4th with a close game. Everybodys already mentioned that KG disappears and Tony too and Tim is losing it...yada yada yada. I don't know if I would do this just because Manu has proven that he can win and aside from his costly mistake in game 7 he's pretty clutch.

[judaspriestess]

I think my head is going to explode after reading through this thread :lol

[jcrod]

Why do these freaking teaser rumors start? Its not going to happen, but I would do it in a heart beat. Just as long as it doesn't include Tony.

[scott]

We would have to do it for no other reason than to get those horrible Manu/Time Warner commercials off the air.

[angel_luv]

We would have to do it for no other reason than to get those horrible Manu/Time Warner commercials off the air.

Ok, now you've gone too far!

I like those commercials.

:lol

[orhe]

hmmm this could happen...
KG usually defers to teams during the homestretch... TD and TP would take all the shots during the 4th...

[Shaolin-Style]

Yeah these kinda threads make me wanna come back and check the forums a lot lol.

I know they're phony like but it's nice to think of Kg+Td+Tp tearing everyone apart even though manu would be missed

[SequNets]

KG is going to be traded to the Nets.

[Budkin]

Man this thread is just total bullshit. Why then do I find myself coming back to check it once again? :lol

Losing Manu would suck but if we had KG and Tim together we would be unstoppable.

[exstatic]

KG has proven that he is not THE GUY, taking his team as far as the WCFs only once, and missing the last two post seasons. THE GUY doesn't do that. That being said, he may be one of the best second fiddles in NBA history. He's that NBA rarity: a defensive beast that has a nice well rounded offensive game. He's a durability beast, too. His fewest games played, ever, was this past season at 76, and they deactivated him for the last 6 games after they were eliminated.

What I would love to see: Avery Johnson's head explode trying to figure out how to hide Dirk on defense against two seven footers that Dirk has no hope of even staying in front of and still play small ball. :lol

[wildbill2u]

I heard it on Miami radio today!

Well, You heard it on the grapevine.
The KG for Manu trade would be fine
well, I think I'm gonna lose my mind
Get a life, get a clue, get a life

[SequNets]

Manu for a box of Popcorn would've saved the Spurs in Game 7.

[Sense]

We do need a startin center... so u never know huh?

[Neuromancer]

.

[Mavs_man_41]

LMAO keep on dreamin.....

[Tek_XX]

If this trade were possible the Spurs would do it in a heart beat. Manu is loved but he has maybe 3-4 good years left with his aggressive style

[phxspurfan]

TD would never give up number 21. KG would never give up his losing in the first round thing.

and look at the T-Wolves website. That just screams of desperation.

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/tickets/199_season_ticket_special.html

[spurs=bling]

TD would never give up number 21. KG would never give up his losing in the first round thing.

and look at the T-Wolves website. That just screams of desperation.

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/tickets/199_season_ticket_special.html
:lol

[TMTTRIO]

I can see Manu torching us the few times he would play us. Yes it would be nice to have KG but I don't think we should mess up the chemistry we have. Manu can be replaced, but can they bring the same kind of energy and the will to win games that he does that helps us be a successful team. Also I would miss the guy. It would be nice to have a big though so I'm really torn. Anyways, I don't think it will work out.

[pwilliam]

It is Trade Impossible. KG hates TD very much and will never come to SA.

[bigdog]

It is Trade Impossible. KG hates TD very much and will never come to SA.

actually thats a lie, KG and TD are best friends, if you havent heard before. whoever hasnt heard that duncan and garnett are very close dont know anyhting. haha and im being dead serious

[ChumpDumper]

Who are these people?

[clubalien]

WTF KG and TD play all the time in the allstar game and rock

and even if they hated each other it is less then kobe and shaq and they won some nba championships

[Kori Ellis]

They don't hate each other :lol and they aren't best friends.

[clubalien]

hmm KG is tim duncans kids godparent



j/k

[Tek_XX]

So they have to be best friends to play with each other. I'm sure they have mutual respect for each other but they probably don't call each other every night.

[velik_m]

It's 25%. If it's 21M then Manu+Barry+Horry is about 200K short of working.

25% is 20% on the other side. It has to be less than 25% over or less than 20% under. Someone needs to brush up on his math.

on topic: unless minny is tanking the season for Oden, it doesn't make sense. The bulls have more to offer.

[Kori Ellis]

25% is 20% on the other side. It has to be less than 25% over or less than 20% under. Someone needs to brush up on his math.

on topic: unless minny is tanking the season for Oden, it doesn't make sense. The bulls have more to offer.

What do you mean less than 20% under?

[Kori Ellis]

This is the rule.



Teams can acquire up to 125% plus $100,000 of the salaries they are trading in a simultaneous trade. For example, a team trading a $5 million player in a simultaneous trade can receive one or more players whose salary is no more than 125% of $5 million, plus $100,000, or $6.35 million in return.

So the Spurs need to trade at least $16,720,000 in salaries to get KG's $21M contract back.

Manu+Barry+Horry is $16,682,880. Short by less than 50K. (I originally said about 200K because I hadn't added in the 100K).

[velik_m]

What do you mean less than 20% under?

100% is 125% to 80%. (1,25*0,8=1)
if player A has X salary, player B has to have over 0,8X and under 1,25X.

[Kori Ellis]

100% is 125% to 80%. (1,25*0,8=1)
if player A has X salary, player B has to have over 0,8X and under 1,25X.

So what's wrong with my calculation?

[velik_m]

nothing much, i just wanted to tell you it isn't 75%, it's not symetrical (as in 25%) in both ways.

0,8*21=16,8
1,25*16,8=21

[Kori Ellis]

nothing much, i just wanted to tell you it isn't 75%, it's not symetrical (as in 25%) in both ways.

0,8*21=16,8
1,25*16,8=21

I know that.

You quote me saying that the Manu+Barry+Horry combo was off from working by about 200K and said like a smart ass that I needed to work on my math.

So what was I wrong about?

[velik_m]

Manu and Barry combine for over 13M. You should just have to get to 15M to make the trade work. That's within 25% of Garnett's 20M.


I thought it was 20%. Also, KG is making 21 million I believe.


It's 25%. If it's 21M then Manu+Barry+Horry is about 200K short of working.

[Kori Ellis]

You should just have to get to 15M to make the trade work

This is a typo. It should say 16M. That's why I was adding in Horry or Oberto's contracts. I was trying to get to 16M. (I thought KG made 20M)


It's 25%. If it's 21M then Manu+Barry+Horry is about 200K short of working.

This is correct. I just forgot to add in the 100K.

[velik_m]

is OK. :)

i just wanted to say buddy holly was not wrong either.

[Kori Ellis]

is OK. :)

i just wanted to say buddy holly was not wrong either.

No Buddy Holly wasn't wrong if he was doing 20% less than the bigger contract, but I thought he was trying to say he thought is was 20% more than the smaller contract.

I was just clarifying that the rule is 25% more. It used to be +15% and a lot of places print it as +20% when it's really +25%.

[rayray2k8]

I thought this thread was a joke! :lmao

[Kori Ellis]

I thought this thread was a joke! :lmao

It is.

The Wolves can get a lot more for KG.

[Beer is Good]

I'd rather keep a player with heart and championship chops (Manu) over a wannabe gangster who is overrated and under-performs in the clutch. Keep KG. He's never done a damn thing worth talking about in his career. Manu is a Champion. Not Just NBA. World.

[Buddy Holly]

The Wolves can get a lot more for KG.

Maybe he's demanding the trade?

[rayray2k8]

I will no longer post here if Manu gets traded.

Once again, you all fail to recognize there is no truth to these rumors.
I think alot of people feel that way man.

[Beer is Good]

I will no longer post here if Manu gets traded.

Once again, you all fail to recognize there is no truth to these rumors.

Especially for a punk gangsta with athletic ability but huevos that shrink to b.b.'s when the pressure is on.

[Buddy Holly]

Especially for a punk gangsta with athletic ability but huevos that shrink to b.b.'s when the pressure is on.

You talking about Garnett or GiG?

[spurschick]

While having KG here wouldn't suck, I wouldn't want to be in the Spurs ticket sales office fielding the "I want a refund on my season tickets!" calls if Manu got traded.

[SAGambler]

I'd rather keep a player with heart and championship chops (Manu) over a wannabe gangster who is overrated and under-performs in the clutch. Keep KG. He's never done a damn thing worth talking about in his career. Manu is a Champion. Not Just NBA. World.

Yep...here they go. Wanting to trade away our players for another soon to be washed up guy with a big contract.

The Superstar, who once got his team past a first round exit. But, oh, he would be so much better here.

Of course it probably would be Garnetts one chance to get a ring. On Duncans coattails.

[mabber]

Wow, I can't believe a lot of you wouldn't want KG instead of Ginobli. That's friggin unbelievable!!!

[leemajors]

Wow, I can't believe a lot of you wouldn't want KG instead of Ginobli. That's friggin unbelievable!!!

with kg, duncan, and parker we would be capped out for a while.

[SpursWillOwn]

kg sux nuff said.. i would jump into a fox hole with ginobili or go where ever he wants to go

[ducks]

with kg, duncan, and parker we would be capped out for a while.
they are capped out awhile anyhow with manu

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

with kg, duncan, and parker we would be capped out for a while.

They'd also be having river parades in June for a while.

[mabber]

kg sux nuff said.. i would jump into a fox hole with ginobili or go where ever he wants to go

I love your video of Wally getting kicked in the face. When did that happen?

[SpursWillOwn]

probably in the 04 season wasn't sure either

[exstatic]

As much as I love Manu, his insistance in playing almost every summer with the Argentine national team means that he probably has less NBA gas left in his tank than KG does, and we do have three NBA calibur shooting guards on the roster, as opposed to one NBA calibur big. We don't need KG to be THE GUY. What we need from him is exactly what he provides: consistant offense, and ferocious defense, capped by the double digit defensive rebounds he's averaged over the last 4 years. KG is also a fairly good shotblocker, and I have to belive that his career 1.7 per game would jump back up over 2 the way it has a couple of times playing in the Spurs "funnel to the bigs" defensive scheme.

We
would
OWN.

[mabber]

As much as I love Manu, his insistance in playing almost every summer with the Argentine national team means that he probably has less NBA gas left in his tank than KG does, and we do have three NBA calibur shooting guards on the roster, as opposed to one NBA calibur big. We don't need KG to be THE GUY. What we need from him is exactly what he provides: consistant offense, and ferocious defense, capped by the double digit defensive rebounds he's averaged over the last 4 years. KG is also a fairly good shotblocker, and I have to belive that his career 1.7 per game would jump back up over 2 the way it has a couple of times playing in the Spurs "funnel to the bigs" defensive scheme.

We
would
OWN.

Yeah, the Spurs would win the title easily in my opinion with a front line that included Duncan & KG. Ginobli is a really good player and, obviously, a much loved player but he's not in KG's class.

[exstatic]

Yeah, the Spurs would win the title easily in my opinion with a front line that included Duncan & KG. Ginobli is a really good player and, obviously, a much loved player but he's not in KG's class.
Which is why it won't happen. My treatise was mainly for those who wouldn't do it if it were offered. That's the purest form of foolishness. KG in lieu of Manu makes your team better, and the prohibitive favorite for the NBA title for next four years.

[spursmode]

How did this thread start? What source?
This is BS.

Well I got one too.
I was getting a beer a bar the other night and somebody farted and I heard it say that we were going to make some trades and end up with a line up of

Duncan
Garnett
Bryant
Wade
Kidd

It smelled like it was telling the truth. The source was an ass but I believe it.

[exstatic]

How did this thread start? What source?
This is BS.

It's a bit longer offseason than usual. People are going to post stuff. Not all of it is going to be factual. Some will be rumors and conjecture. In fact, this thread was clearly labeled as a rumor. If you don't like it, you can:

a) scroll
b) set up your own site and eliminate everything that isn't a proven fact. You'll have 4-5 posts.

[spursmode]

In fact, this thread was clearly labeled as a rumor.

That is cool, but he was asked where he heard the rumor and I could not find his answer. If he did not respond that is undeniably LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!

[polandprzem]

It's a bit longer offseason than usual. People are going to post stuff. Not all of it is going to be factual...

:huh


It is not longer. Last season was shorten the usual.

[exstatic]

Rumors rarely have an attributable source. If they do, they're a quote in a story, not a rumor. He may well know who said it and was asked not to say.

[clubalien]

spursmode quit positing trash multiple sources have this rumor keep in mind it is just a rumor though and trades can fall apart at anytime

[exstatic]

:huh


It is not longer. Last season was shorten the usual.
That would depend if you are an optomist or a pessimist. During the Tim, Tony, Manu era, we are 50/50 on going all the way. I prefer to think of that as the norm.

[bdictjames]

Manu for KG? Even if Minnesota agrees I still wouldn't do it

[exstatic]

Manu for KG? Even if Minnesota agrees I still wouldn't do it
That would make you a fool.

[Enygmatic]

Minnesota is trying to rebuild though so they are going to be looking to move Garnett for next to nothing. Because currently he is keeping them sorry enough to not make the playoffs but too good for a decent lottery spot. So they would be more likely to take Manu or someone of lesser value.

[polandprzem]

That would depend if you are an optomist or a pessimist. During the Tim, Tony, Manu era, we are 50/50 on going all the way. I prefer to think of that as the norm.

No. That depends on how you count the years. You are taking about the trio era. And when talking about Tim's era?
What about the whole spurs exsistance? <----- that is correct.

[spursmode]

Rumors rarely have an attributable source. If they do, they're a quote in a story, not a rumor. He may well know who said it and was asked not to say.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We have a winner for the orange crotched cheeto eating WANKER award!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taking it to the Hole]

I think we need to focus on matters that acually have a chance of happening. :spin

[exstatic]

No. That depends on how you count the years. You are taking about the trio era. And when talking about Tim's era?
What about the whole spurs exsistance? <----- that is correct.

Yes, because taking the Ice years into account is very relevant to how we view today's Spurs.

You've turned into a real twit, Poland. I used to think you were a pretty good poster, but you're just another negative whiner to go on my ignore list. Hasta la vista, baby.

[mabber]

How did this thread start? What source?
This is BS.

Well I got one too.
I was getting a beer a bar the other night and somebody farted and I heard it say that we were going to make some trades and end up with a line up of

Duncan
Garnett
Bryant
Wade
Kidd

It smelled like it was telling the truth. The source was an ass but I believe it.

Wow, what a lineup :spin And yet, most of the Spurs fans on this board would probably not trade Ginobli for any of those guys :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Manu>>>>>>>>>KG.

[ShoogarBear]

I don't think this trade could ever happen, but TD+KG = end of this Small Ball Shit.

[TDMVPDPOY]

with KG on the team, we can put him at SF, and put bruce at SG, end of backcourt scoring for opposing team.

[Beaverfuzz]

No way that's true. That'd be the most lopsided trade in history


Kiki Vandeweghe trade from Denver to Portland was more lopsided than this "trade".


Calvin Natt
Fat Lever
Wayne Cooper
2 draft picks

for Kiki

[Buddy Holly]

So IcemanCometh still hasn't listed a source?

[baseline bum]

I don't think this trade could ever happen, but TD+KG = end of this Small Ball Shit.

TD+KG would be the end of the NBA. The Spurs would win the title every year the two of them weren't injured. They have about as complementary of games as two big men in the league could have... and then you add Tony Parker to this mix too?

I think I'd probably trade Tony Parker with Manu for KG even, if we could keep Barry and maybe try to snag Banks. Garnet has been a 21+/12+/5+ guy every year since 2001 except last year, when he averaged 4.1 assists playing with crap like Marko Jaric, Ricky Davis, KandiAss, and so on (who's gonna hit a shot on that team no matter how perfect of a position KG puts it in for him?). He's shot in the 47%-53% range every year since '99. He's always good for a block and a half a game too, and he cuts off a lot of passing lanes... you cannot throw the lob against him. I'd give Holt's left nut to get KG in a Spurs uni.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

kg for sheed! now thats a trade

[Beer is Good]

That would make you a fool.
A fool just because he doesn't agree with you? If opinions are fact around here, then it is a FACT that you severely overrate KG and his ability to bring what it takes to win a championship. You have no leverage here because KG has only shown the ability to NOT get anything done. If he came, he might win a Championship or two on TD's tails, but I'd rather see a great player and a class act than a great player who talks trash and acts like a fool. Did you forget KG's antics in the '99 playoffs? Pushing Timmy in the head over and over and acting like he was Tony fucking Montana? I'll give him this - he has grown up a bit since then, but I still don't want to watch trash like that. That's my opinion, and the fact that you completely discount any opinion that differs from your own as foolish just makes you a shitty poster who needs to be ignored.

Besides, the Spurs will win at least one more Championship without KG.

[Slinkyman]

Speaking of Rumors did anyone catch the GS, SA trade rumor on KSAT 12 news?

[Quadzilla99]

Speaking of Rumors did anyone catch the GS, SA trade rumor on KSAT 12 news?What did they say?

[Buddy Holly]

Did it involve Troy Murphy?

Maybe even Devin Brown.

[Buddy Holly]

Maybe Fab/Brent for Murphy.

[spurs_love_dyck]

Both players aren't even worth 7 pages.

[west231]

Manu 800W/year
KG 2000w/year

impossible

[TDMVPDPOY]

kg 4 gino/parker works on nbalive :D:D

[west231]

In Chinese"ˆÓˆú�g

[Axl Van Dam]

:rolleyes Hmmm let me see, Manu, 2 NBA Championships and at the prime of his career as opposed to Kevin Garnett, 1 MVP Trophy Zero Championships........... HELLLLL NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :madrun :madrun :madrun :madrun :madrun

[Kori Ellis]

Speaking of Rumors did anyone catch the GS, SA trade rumor on KSAT 12 news?

We just replayed it and it didn't quite make sense. It said that the Spurs and GS are rumored to be part of a blockbuster multi-team trade and that Devin is part of it, but not returning to the Spurs. Doesn't make much sense because Devin can't be traded in a package with other players.

[travis2]

Speaking of Rumors did anyone catch the GS, SA trade rumor on KSAT 12 news?

Standard for that bunch.

I don't believe a thing that comes out of that station.