Spurs Summer League Roster Released (No Javtokas or Sanikidze) [Archive]

Kori Ellis

07-10-2006, 01:29 PM

SAN ANTONIO-The San Antonio Spurs today announced their initial roster for the 2006 Reebok Rocky Mountain Revue to be held July 14-21, in Salt Lake City, UT.

Six teams will participate in this year’s Revue. Joining the Spurs will be the Utah Jazz, the Atlanta Hawks, the Dallas Mavericks, the Philadelphia 76ers and the Seattle Sonics.

The Revue tips off for the Spurs when they face the Mavericks, July 14, at 5 p.m. at the Salt Lake Community College Activities Center.

The current Spurs summer league roster is subject to change.

PLAYER POS. HT. WT. DOB COLLEGE NBA YEARS

Andre Brown F 6-9 230 5/12/81 Depaul R

Taquan Dean G 6-3 185 8/6/83 Louisville R

Otis George F 6-8 203 5/7/82 Louisville R

Sergei Karaulov C 7-1 230 4/15/82 Russia R

Charles Lee G 6-3 210 11/11/84 Bucknell R

Roman Levter F 6-10 220 4/24/84 Russia R

Ian Mahinmi F 6-10 210 11/5/86 France R

Rich Melzer F 6-8 225 12/8/79 Wisconsin River Falls R

Adam Parada C 7-0 213 10/21/81 California-Irvine R

Melvin Sanders G/F 6-5 210 01/03/81 Oklahoma State ’03 1

Donta Smith G 6-7 201 11/27/83 SE Illinois JC 1

Jamar Smith F 6-9 225 12/5/80 Maryland R

Frans Steyn C 7-2 280 7/19/82 Southwest Baptist University R

CJ Watson G 6-2 176 9/22/03 Tennessee R

Lamayn Wilson F 6-8 220 6/11/80 Troy State R

2006 Reebok Rocky Mountain Revue Schedule

July 14 vs. Dallas 5 p.m.
July 15 vs. Seattle 3 p.m.
July 17 vs. Atlanta 5 p.m.
July 18 vs. Philadelphia 3 p.m.
July 20 vs. Dallas 5 p.m.
July 21 vs. Utah 7 p.m.

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 01:31 PM

What happened to Maceo Baston?

Leetonidas

07-10-2006, 01:33 PM

Lot of 6'8" and 6'9" guys in there. Hopefully we can find a decent SF.

furry_spurry

07-10-2006, 01:33 PM

Seems strange about Viktor after he spent basically the whole season in SA. Is there any chance the Spurs are going to sign Robertas and Viktor this week and then add them?

Kori Ellis

07-10-2006, 01:48 PM

Seems strange about Viktor after he spent basically the whole season in SA. Is there any chance the Spurs are going to sign Robertas and Viktor this week and then add them?

I guess there's a chance. The roster is subject to change.

Bruno

07-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Lamayn Wilson plays in France but I don't know him at all.

His stats : 16.9pts/6.9rbds in 28.9min. He plays PF and has a quite good outside shoot (38% from euro 3's).

texbumTHElife

07-10-2006, 02:18 PM

I would just like to say a big HELL YES to Taquan Dean. I know he doesnt really fill a need, unless he shows he can play the point, but the kid is a baller and as clutch as they come!

Kori Ellis

07-10-2006, 02:21 PM

What happened to Javtokas?

Don't know.

The reports of Javtokas being on the team were out of Europe. Maybe they were wrong.

Or maybe the Spurs are going to sign Jav first before adding him to the SL team.

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 02:23 PM

Javtokas is too busy single-handedly rescuing 1 billion Chinese in a flooded region of the Yangtszee, etc.

timvp

07-10-2006, 02:27 PM

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 02:28 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion Sanikidze isn't close to being ready to compete with the relative talents and athletes at an NBA summer league.

IcemanCometh

07-10-2006, 02:39 PM

maybe the spurs already know what they need to know about Sanikidze

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 02:44 PM

maybe the spurs already know what they need to know about Sanikidze

Well, part of the SL is getting players face time with new levels of talent and gaining a brief amount of experience there. It's not only an exhibition. I feel the team doesn't think the guy is ready to play against this level of talent yet.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope they've kept under wraps a skinny Georgian GOD and already plan on signing him to dunk on everyone's faces next season... but I don't think so.

ChumpDumper

07-10-2006, 03:18 PM

I really like the hustle Jamar Smith showed in Austin last season. If it converts to enough boards in SL, he might get a camp invite.

itzsoweezee

07-10-2006, 03:49 PM

wow, that team is really going to get killed

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 03:50 PM

wow, that team is really going to get killed

It doesn't look good.

ChumpDumper

07-10-2006, 03:53 PM

I think we'll be running just about every play through Sanders and Donta Smith to see if they will be worth keeping around. Everyone else has to do what they can.

polandprzem

07-10-2006, 04:11 PM

Give Javtokas some rest people!!!!!!!

Ed Helicopter Jones

07-10-2006, 04:13 PM

I think we'll be running just about every play through Sanders and Smith to see if they will be worth keeping around. Everyone else has to do what they can.

Interesting team. Looks like the Spurs are trying to mine for that diamond in the rough bigman.

timvp

07-10-2006, 04:20 PM

Why wouldn't Sanikidze be on the team? That makes no sense to me.

I guess either he's injured, he really sucks or perhaps he's playing overseas. Anyone know if he could be doing something with the Georgian natioanl team?

The Georgian team isn't in the World Championships.

Perhaps Sanikidze was just a huge bust.

That's the only thing that makes sense to me

furry_spurry

07-10-2006, 04:25 PM

^The Spurs were more excited about Viktor than even Pop's excitement over Beno that draft. I hope the Spurs had better judgment than that! And he was in SA all season for some reason- you would think, but not a word has been spoken about him in the media except to say he was expected to play in Europe next year.

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 04:28 PM

I'm thinking Sanikidze is simply too fragile to play against men at this point.

timvp

07-10-2006, 04:30 PM

Any news of him signing with a team in Europe?

Doc Jerome

07-10-2006, 04:38 PM

I will just take a wait and see attitude.

ChumpDumper

07-10-2006, 04:45 PM

So you're saying you'll stay tuned :fro

gospursgojas

07-10-2006, 04:49 PM

Whats the Spurs SL TV Sched like???

Anyone know???

Kori Ellis

07-10-2006, 04:52 PM

Whats the Spurs SL TV Sched like???

Anyone know???

The games are aired 9-10 days after the fact. I've posted the link to the schedule 3 times in other threads, so search :)

Kori Ellis

07-10-2006, 04:53 PM

http://www.nba.com/news/summerleagues2006.html

ChumpDumper

07-10-2006, 05:05 PM

I wonder what happened to Will Conroy?

We might have to fly in Marques Perry if these point guards suck.

T Park

07-10-2006, 05:45 PM

:lol @ the people worried about the Summer League team getting slaughtered.

God you people are hard up for wins.

shaggy17

07-10-2006, 07:48 PM

Chump you seem high on D. Smith? He seems young but do you really think he can be a very solid role player for the spurs assuming they sign him?? he is listed as 6'7 so is he a swingman as well?

adonis827

07-10-2006, 08:13 PM

hey! ian mahinmi is there. did i read that right?

Doc Jerome

07-10-2006, 08:21 PM

So you're saying you'll stay tuned :fro

:lol Exactly. :fro

J.T.

07-10-2006, 08:25 PM

hey! ian mahinmi is there. did i read that right?

Yes, Ian is playing in SL.

SenorSpur

07-10-2006, 08:26 PM

What happened to Maceo Baston? I thought he was going to participate on the team.

Mr. Body

07-10-2006, 08:34 PM

What happened to Maceo Baston? I thought he was going to participate on the team.

Me too. :madrun :depressed

violentkitten

07-10-2006, 08:56 PM

let us pray that donta smith pans out.

Kori Ellis

07-11-2006, 03:57 AM

He's not on the list but ...

Gardner gets a look from Spurs
Missouri’s top scorer last season wasn’t a draft pick, but San Antonio gives him a chance.
By MIKE DeARMOND
The Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15009097.htm

Thomas Gardner wasn’t taken in the NBA draft last month, but he’ll get a chance with the San Antonio Spurs summer team.

“He has an offer in Europe,” agent Bill McCandless told The Kansas City Star on Monday. “But San Antonio had an interest before the draft, during the draft and after the draft. That’s what he’s going to do.”

Gardner, Missouri’s leading scorer last season as a junior, is nursing a sore finger on his non-shooting left hand. It was hurt during a workout with Portland before the draft and then injured again in a subsequent workout with Seattle.

Streakyshooter08

07-11-2006, 03:59 AM

What position is he playing? Does he fill sth. the Spurs need?

Kori Ellis

07-11-2006, 04:00 AM

What position is he playing? Does he fill sth. the Spurs need?

6'5 shooting guard.

Streakyshooter08

07-11-2006, 04:04 AM

6'5 shooting guard.

Thanks. Not really what they need but it would be 3rd string anyway I guess.

whottt

07-11-2006, 04:17 AM

I'm interested in Karualov...I know this guys numbers have sucked in the upper Russian League but he hasn't got any PT.

I remember seeing some of his stats in some of the lower level leagues and they were excellent. Still, he''s about 26 now and if he hasn't developed yet at the upper levels then I doubt he ever will. But you never know...some of the stats I saw for him were niiiiiice.

And I remain clueless on why anyone thinks Sanikidze is anywhere close to being NBA ready...hell, I don't think this kid is summer league ready yet. I doubt the Spurs have given up on him though....Manu and Scola weren't NBA ready until they were 23-24 years old...Sanikidze is only 20 or something.

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 04:48 AM

Here (http://www.basket.ru/old_site/Team.asp?ID=1641&v=stats&season=106&l=e) are the stats for Khimki in the Russian B league

Karaulov is there as is Roman Levter, also on the SL squad.

whottt

07-11-2006, 04:54 AM

Here (http://www.basket.ru/old_site/Team.asp?ID=1641&v=stats&season=106&l=e) are the stats for Khimki in the Russian B league

Karaulov is there as is Roman Levter, also on the SL squad.

Damn...those numbers are actually better than I thought on the B League. I didn't think he was getting any PT there either.

The stats I was talking about were from like 3 years ago or something...not on that team either....and they were good, like if he was producing them at the highest level he'd be drawing comparisons to Sabonis or something.

whottt

07-11-2006, 04:54 AM

http://www.basket.ru/DbImages/Players/KaraulovSergey.JPG

Finally a picture of what he looks like...

Am I the only one that gets feeling Leonard Nimoy had something going on the side in Siberia about 25 years ago?

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 04:57 AM

Levter is kind of interesting. 22 years old, 6'10", strokes the occaisonal three.

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BA53A7A01-550E-4471-880C-9BD7975F0B4F%7Dlarge_v.jpghttp://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B9E678C60-28C9-4F73-BFA1-29C058152082%7Dlarge_v.jpg

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:08 AM

Karaulov in uniform:
http://www.bckhimki.ru/images/Karaulov_pf.jpg

Levter:
http://www.bckhimki.ru/images/Levter_pf.jpg

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:13 AM

Team photo. In the back row, Karaulov is 2nd from the left and I believe that's Levter 2nd from the right. To his right is Ruben Wolkowyski for reference.

http://www.bckhimki.ru/images/Team1_pf.jpg

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:31 AM

http://www.bckhimki.ru/team/Gallery/22112005/dsc_0109.jpghttp://www.bckhimki.ru/team/Gallery/17122005/dsc_0010.jpg

Can't sleep....

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:36 AM

http://www.bckhimki.ru/team/Gallery/27122005/DSC_0197.jpghttp://www.bckhimki.ru/team/Gallery/27122005/DSC_0203.jpg

timvp

07-11-2006, 05:39 AM

For the last two years or whatever I couldn't find a Karaulov pic to save my life.

Good to see Russia finally found the internets.

TDMVPDPOY

07-11-2006, 05:48 AM

wow our russian player, looks like his buff up, but still looks like a stiff on the court though, hope he pans out.

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:50 AM

Another bit of info. Karaulov's birthdate is listed as April 15, 1984.

That changes everything.

timvp

07-11-2006, 05:57 AM

I've seen it listed differently. Nov 30, 1982 seems to be the one I see most.

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 05:59 AM

I'm going by his team website and FIBA.

Bruno

07-11-2006, 06:25 AM

Another bit of info. Karaulov's birthdate is listed as April 15, 1984.

That changes everything.

He was drafted in 2004 and he isn't on the Early entry list (http://www.nba.com/draft2004/early_040618.html#early ) : he sould be born in 1982.

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 06:26 AM

Hey, I believe you. Tell his team.

Bruno

07-11-2006, 06:35 AM

If he is really born in 1984, I wonder if it cancel our draft pick.

BTW, good idea to bring one of his teammate with him. Spurs' FO doesn't give up on Karaulov while he seems not able to play in nba one day.

ChumpDumper

07-11-2006, 06:39 AM

They brought in a teammate last time too. Ershov - the tallest guy in the team photo.

If the Spurs screwed up again on a guy's age after Nocioni, that's on them.

Slomo

07-11-2006, 10:23 AM

SPARKY

07-11-2006, 11:06 AM

SPARKY

07-11-2006, 11:07 AM

benjirh

07-11-2006, 12:25 PM

Does this mean that ian has a shot of being here in '07?

Robot

07-14-2006, 08:55 AM

Viktor is playing European Championship U20(Group B) in Portugal,and that´s propably why he´s missing summerleague.

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/
Here you can watch his stats.

Kori Ellis

07-14-2006, 08:56 AM

Viktor is playing European Championship U20(Group B) in Portugal,and that´s propably why he´s missing summerleague.

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/
Here you can watch his stats.

Thank you. I've been wondering if he was playing anywhere this summer.

Welcome to the forum.

picnroll

07-14-2006, 09:15 AM

They list him at 6'8". No weight. Also listed as a PF.

Quadzilla99

07-14-2006, 09:25 AM

Karaulov looks like he's 12 years old in that pic. Maybe he just looks that way like Jermaine O'Neal who looks like he's still teething.

Bruno

07-14-2006, 10:54 AM

Viktor is playing European Championship U20(Group B) in Portugal,and that´s propably why he´s missing summerleague.

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/
Here you can watch his stats.

Good new, we will see if Sanikidze is still able to play BB even if the U20B level is quite low.

Mr. Body

07-14-2006, 11:01 AM

I didn't realize Sanikidze isn't even 20 yet.

Bruno

07-14-2006, 04:13 PM

Sanikidze has played 24 min and scored 15 points against Finland today.
It's meaningless because the level of the competition should be very weak, but at least he can still play BB after his big injury.

timvp

07-14-2006, 04:17 PM

Sanikidze should be in summer league. You can't take anything from U20 games.

:pctoss

T Park

07-14-2006, 04:26 PM

Does anyone have pictures of Kauralov right now?

Could he be worth a crap?

timvp

07-14-2006, 04:28 PM

Does anyone have pictures of Kauralov right now?

Check out this thread, bro.

T Park

07-14-2006, 04:30 PM

thats a picture from high school

Im talking about something where hes playing :lol

ChumpDumper

07-14-2006, 04:32 PM

:wtf I posted like four game pics of Karaulov and Levter after the high school pic.

T Park

07-14-2006, 04:36 PM

Yeah I see it now, it was coming up red x's for me this morning.

Sorry about that.

So they got this guy out of Russian B league?

Talk about leaps...

objective

07-14-2006, 04:39 PM

Sanikidze on a U20 team when he turned 20 over 3 months ago?

I thought the U stood for 'under'. my mistake.

ducks

07-14-2006, 05:43 PM

In Euro League, Javtokas averaged: 9.6 pts and 8.2 Rebounds per game.

In Fabricio's last year in the Euro League, he averaged: 13.6 pts and 5.6 rebounds.

Solid D

07-14-2006, 08:40 PM

# Player............min 2pt..%..3pt...%...FT...%...or dr tr a f to s b pts
13 *Sanikidze, V. 24 2/3 66.7 3/9 33.3 2/2 100.0 0 1 1 2 4 3 1 0 15

Bruno

07-15-2006, 10:07 AM

Second game against Iceland, Georgia win 89-80.

Sanikidze :
34 min
22 pts (7/9 2P%, 2/9 3P%, 2/3 1P%)
11 rebounds (3 off, 8 def)
1 assist
3 PF
2 turnovers
2 blocks

ducks

07-15-2006, 10:13 AM

those numbers are impressive

Solid D

07-15-2006, 01:08 PM

1/4 of Georgia's points. That's a little better showing than his first game but his 3-pt. accuracy still needs some work.

Bruno

07-16-2006, 02:46 PM

24 points 17 rebounds in 29 min today against Netherlands.

BTW, Sanikidze U20B stats :
http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?cid={437CD793-ED0C-4EE5-8163-6F08988C6501}&teamID=2187&compID={792A6AB7-C6A6-434B-BEA5-9BF1BC619DB4}&season=2006&roundID=4967&playerID=45506

strangeweather

07-16-2006, 02:48 PM

Wow, he's really tearing it up. :tu

I wish we could get a better firsthand look at him.

Kori Ellis

07-16-2006, 02:48 PM

timvp

07-16-2006, 02:51 PM

I'm guessing these games will help him get a Euro contract for next year.

Bruno

07-16-2006, 02:55 PM

I don't know what the competition is like. But 17 rebounds is damn good.

The level is quite weak, it was a blowout (Georgia 106 - Netherlands 64) and Sanikidze is playing PF with Georgia.
To me, the best news is that Sanikidze is still able to play good BB after all his injuries.

Quadzilla99

07-16-2006, 03:42 PM

1/4 of Georgia's points. That's a little better showing than his first game but his 3-pt. accuracy still needs some work.Especially when you take 9 of em. Well at least we know he isn't bashful. :lol Does look good though wish he were on the Spurs Summer league team.

ChumpDumper

07-16-2006, 04:08 PM

ducks

07-16-2006, 07:10 PM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/{A0E56A4E-C3BE-4578-A4C1-AF7315CD37E1}large_v.jpg

ChumpDumper

07-16-2006, 07:14 PM

I think that's a pic from a couple of years ago.

T Park

07-16-2006, 07:15 PM

wasting time over in europe.......

Bruno

07-16-2006, 07:32 PM

I think that's a pic from a couple of years ago.

Me too, I think this picture was taken at the Zaragosa tournament (summer 2004).

ChumpDumper

07-16-2006, 09:25 PM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/%7B4D35E503-12EE-41E0-888D-2C8D108CBFF7%7Dlarge_h.jpg
Still #13

ChumpDumper

07-16-2006, 09:30 PM

Apparently he became a balla during his stay in the US.

Solid D

07-16-2006, 09:40 PM

:lol

T Park

07-17-2006, 01:38 AM

him and Kevin Federline could be brothers.

Bruno

07-18-2006, 12:56 PM

Georgia 98 - Czech Republic 88

Sanikidze
40 min
35 points (7/9 2Pts, 6/10 3Pts, 3/3 FT)
8 rebounds (2 Off and 6 def)
2 PF
5 TO
2 steals
1 block

timvp

07-18-2006, 12:57 PM

Not bad. I wonder what caliber of Euro team will give him a shot.

Solid D

07-18-2006, 01:01 PM

Georgia 98 - Czech Republic 88

Sanikidze
40 min
35 points (7/9 2Pts, 6/10 3Pts, 3/3 FT)
8 rebounds (2 Off and 6 def)
2 PF
5 TO
2 steals
1 block

Ah, so now they're showcasing Viktor!

picnroll

07-18-2006, 01:09 PM

Nice to see his outside shot coming around.

Mr. Body

07-18-2006, 01:18 PM

Does PAO have a swingman? Get him started with Ian early.

Solid D

07-18-2006, 03:28 PM

ACCUMULATED STATISTICS AVERAGES

G Min 2P.......%.....3P....%...FT....%.....OR DR TR...A....PF TO ST BLK PTS AVG
4 31.8 24/36 66.7 13/33 39.4 9/10 90.0 1.8 7.5 9.3 0.8 2.5 2.5 1.5 0.8 96 24.0

GAME-BY-GAME STATISTICS

Match.....Min..2P..%... 3P....%...FT....%...or dr t a pf to s b pts
vs Finland 24 2/3 66.7 3/9 33.3 2/2 100.0 0 1 1 2 4 3 1 0 15
vs Iceland 34 7/ 9 77.8 2/ 9 22.2 2/ 3 66.7 3 8 11 1 3 2 0 2 22
vs Netherlands 29 8/ 15 53.3 2/ 5 40.0 2/ 2 100.0 2 15 17 0 1 0 3 0 24
vs Czech Republic 40 7/ 9 77.8 6/ 10 60.0 3/ 3 100.0 2 6 8 0 2 5 2 1 35

timvp

07-18-2006, 03:32 PM

T Park

07-18-2006, 03:35 PM

Bring this kid over.

Fuck wasting time in Europe.

Mr. Body

07-18-2006, 03:40 PM

Thing that worries me is his lack of FTA's and tons of 3PA's make me believe he has no slashing game. If he could drive from the three-point line to the rim, he'd get to the line more than 10 times in four games.

He must be a spot shooter with some decent inside moves.

Especially since he has a nice stroke from the charity stripe.

If he's still extremely skinny, he might not like the contact when he drives. As if it's any comparison :angel , at his age I was the budding small forward-type. Usually I'd launch 3s, sometimes post up, but it wasn't until I beefed up a little and could take the contact that I enjoyed developing a slashing and mid-range game.

Or, maybe he's not quick enough to get around defenders. That'd be unfortuante, but a great shooter can always get drives.

tempest186

07-18-2006, 04:07 PM

I just noticed that Georgia is in the B division. Is it truly a B division or is it more of a Pool sort of division? If it is a B division how much of a difference is there between divisions?

Bruno

07-18-2006, 04:12 PM

I just noticed that Georgia is in the B division. Is it truly a B division or is it more of a Pool sort of division? If it is a B division how much of a difference is there between divisions?

It's a true division B, the 16 best european teams are in division A.

tempest186

07-18-2006, 04:15 PM

Thanks Bruno. I know he was injured all last season but was he under contract with a team? If not doesn't that mean the Spurs lose his rights?

picnroll

07-19-2006, 04:30 PM

Sanikidze latest game (5)

G Min 2P.......%.3P.%.FT.%..OR DR TR.A.PF TO ST BLK PTS
5 37 12/17 70.6 0/5 00.0 3/4 75.0 2 6 8 2 4 4 4 1 27

picnroll

07-20-2006, 10:56 AM

Sanikidze latest game (6) loss to Poland

G Min 2P.......%.3P.%.FT.%..OR DR TR. A. PF TO ST BLK PTS
6 37 5/13 38.5 0/3 00.0 4/45 80.0 2 12 14 3 3 4 2 1 14

Solid D

07-20-2006, 11:13 AM

Better competition this time. Still, 14 and 14 is decent. It's also good to see him playing so many minutes.

picnroll

07-20-2006, 11:16 AM

Not only minutes but in back to back to back games.

Bruno

07-22-2006, 05:04 PM

Not only minutes but in back to back to back games.

It was in fact a back to back to back and Sanikidze 6th game in 7 days.

So Georgia has won his semifinal against finland tonight (74-63). Tomorrow, Final against Macedonia.

Sanikidze stats for tonight :
27 points ( 8/12 2P, 2/6 3P, 5/9 FT )
14 rebounds (3 off, 11 def)
1 ast
3 PF
2 TO
1 Steal
38 min

ChumpDumper

07-22-2006, 05:07 PM

FULL MLE!

Aggie Hoopsfan

07-22-2006, 05:32 PM

5/9 on free throws? He's perfect, sign him up!

Bruno

07-22-2006, 05:45 PM

5/9 on free throws? He's perfect, sign him up!

He was 5/7 before missing 2 FT in garbage time, looks like he wasn't really focused anymore.

Even if the sample isn't enough he is a 75% FT shooter on this tournament (81% if you remove the two missed FT in garbage time today).

picnroll

07-22-2006, 07:12 PM

Finland was previously unbeaten and had beaten Georgia in the first game with Sankidze having his worst game in that first game. good to see he bounced back against Finland and found his rythym.

picnroll

07-22-2006, 07:28 PM

It was in fact a back to back to back and Sanikidze 6th game in 7 days.

Sanikidze has palyed 7 games in 10 days averaging over 34 minutes a game.

ace3g

07-22-2006, 08:15 PM

Sanikidze Leads Georgia To Final

Viktor Sanikidze carried Georgia into the final of the Ostchem U20 European Championship Division B with a dominant performance in his side's 74-63 semi-final defeat of Finland.

Sanikidze tallied 27 points and 14 points for Georgia, who earn promotion to Divison A in 2007.

A cat and mouse game saw Finland lead 14-15 at the end of the first quarter with 10 points from Petteri Koponen.

However Georgia lead at the half thanks to 13 and 7 rebounds from Sanikidze and 14 points from Iraki Sakvarelidze. 11 first half turnovers from Finland also added to their woes and Georgia led 41-34 at the start of the third quarter.

With 6 mins to go in the third a long three from Jari Vanttaja narrowed the Georgian lead to 48-41 but the red team replied immediately with a three of their own, however, the Finns narrowed the gap closer to 55-50 at the end of the third.

By now Koponen had moved on to 15 points and Sanikidze led all players with 20 points and 10 rebounds

The last quarter was much like the first, with both teams turning the ball over and making a number of long range jumpers. The Finns who had been one of the surprises of the tournament struggled with foul trouble losing their point guard Vuori with 5 minutes remaining.

With 90 seconds left the Georgians clung to a 69-59 lead. A pair of free throws put them up by two more with less than a minute to go . The Finns challenge was over and Georgia ran out 74-63 winners.

Georgia will take on FYROM in Sunday's final.

Link (http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?cid={437CD793-ED0C-4EE5-8163-6F08988C6501}&compID={792A6AB7-C6A6-434B-BEA5-9BF1BC619DB4}&season=2006&gameID=4973-56-A-1&)

Solid D

07-22-2006, 09:06 PM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/{A26AE7A5-19A8-47E0-B1FA-A96E90DAE240}big_h.jpg

FIBA U20 LEADERS B Division
Points Per Game
name avg.

1 Mladjan , D. 32.7
2 Olafsson , J. 23.6
3 Sanikidze , V. 23.4
4 Westbrooks , A. 23.1
5 Tsintsadze , G. 20.9

Total Rebounds
name avg.

1 Samardziski , P. 14.7
2 Sanikidze , V. 10.4
3 Ermolinskij , P. 9.7
4 Jelinek , J. 8.7
5 Kügerl , H. 8.7

ace3g

07-22-2006, 09:14 PM

hopefully he will be our "long 3" in 1 or 2 years when I think Spurs will bring both him and Ian in for the new Spus future; and even though Georgia is in Division B there is no doubt that Sanikidze can rebound the ball and score and at 6'8 6'9 he is actually what the spurs need, he just needs to add a little weight and muscle I wish I could find pictures of him from the tournament in action, the only pics I can find of him are the 2 that are on his profile; one of which is posted above

timvp

07-22-2006, 09:59 PM

I guess it's safe to say that Sanikidze is back on the basketball map. He'd been MIA for a while.

If he can play next year somewhere in Europe and put up good numbers, there's probably a chance he comes to San Antonio next season.

velik_m

07-23-2006, 01:28 AM

finnland :lol

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 02:10 AM

Sanikidze needs to stay in Europe.

He's still very young, and he can still afford to polish his game up more.

In a sense, he could have possibly been a lottery pick this year....I know scouts raved about him, and claimed if he had never played ball at Globe Tech he could have been lottery potential, but since he did, that made him become an early entry.

We lucked out getting him in the 2nd round of the 2004 draft.....because if it was not for the early entry and declared this year, we would never be seeing him in a Spurs uniform...we landed 1st round/lottery talent with Viktor.....ala...Butler this year.

Anyways, he was here in the States a while, so I'm sure the Spurs have already set him up with a weight program.

He should go back to the French League...maybe he can land on Tony's team....Paris Basket-Racing, or even somewhere like Pau-Orthez, but that may be asking too much.

Like I said before, the Spurs are going to have all that cap in 2008...Ian and Sanikidze won't even make huge dents into that cap....they will more than likely come together....perfect timing....because Elson will be gone (Ian can replace him), and as of right now Bowen can still give us 2 great years (and Viktor can take the torch from him).

Maybe the Spurs are not in such a rush to acquire that long 3 after all. They've seen plenty of Viktor, and know what they have in him. They also feel Bowen still has 2 years in him.....so in a sense we already have that long 3 secured.....it's a matter of time....

But right now, stay in Europe and polish your game, Viktor.

Hopefully, Ian, Viktor, Butler, and Parker all can carry the load after 2010 and make Duncan's late 30's seem like his early 30's someday.

Bruno

07-23-2006, 03:42 AM

I guess it's safe to say that Sanikidze is back on the basketball map.

That's my point when I post his stats.
I'm just happy for him that he is able to play (and be good even if the level is weak) after one year off.

Sanikidze needs to stay in Europe.

Agree with that.

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 12:38 PM

That's my point when I post his stats.
I'm just happy for him that he is able to play (and be good even if the level is weak) after one year off.

Thanks Bruno.

No matter what the competition you want to see a young man stand out and put up some dominant numbers. He definitely has the talent, and has the chance to be something special.

Do you think he can turn himself into a defensive monster? I know he has the laterall quickness, but I don't know how much he is dedicated on that side of the ball.

Bruno

07-23-2006, 01:29 PM

Do you think he can turn himself into a defensive monster? I know he has the laterall quickness, but I don't know how much he is dedicated on that side of the ball.

I haven't a clue about that, I haven't seen him play.
I've read some reports from Dijon fans last year who said that Sanikidze played with a lot of heart on the defensive end but that he needed to work on his offense.

BTW, he is playing the final against Macedonia.
At the halftime : Macedonia 49 - Georgia 45, Sanikidze 17 pts, 9 rbds, 2 ast

ace3g

07-23-2006, 01:32 PM

those are good halftime numbers

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 02:04 PM

Sanikidze is just toying with the competition. I know is division B, but nonetheless you want him playing his best against any type of competition, and thats exactly what he was doing.

Dijon is a good place for him. I wonder if he goes back to the French League. It would be amazing to see him and Ian at Pau Orthez....so that they can start getting a feel for one another.

Solid D

07-23-2006, 02:13 PM

We are all basically in the dark on how Viktor plays the game. San Antonio is a long way from Tbilisi, and I don't think JDA Dijon has ever played in a broadcasted game on NBAtv.

ChumpDumper

07-23-2006, 02:17 PM

Hopefully he plays on a Euroleague team that we can watch once next season.

Bruno

07-23-2006, 02:20 PM

We are all basically in the dark on how Viktor plays the game.

Yes and so we can have the wildest dreams. :)

End of the game : Macedonia 88 - Georgia 96
Georgia has won the tournament.

Sanikidze stats :
30 points (7/10 2P, 4/11 3P, 4/5FT)
14 rebounds (3 off, 11 def)
2 assists
1 PF
4 TO
3 Steals
40 min (he has played the whole game)

picnroll

07-23-2006, 02:23 PM

So far the only apparent negative is his outside shot which looks like it needs work.

If there is an MVP Sankidze must have snared it.

Kori Ellis

07-23-2006, 02:30 PM

So far the only apparent negative is his outside shot which looks like it needs work.

If there is an MVP Sankidze must have snared it.

He shot 6/10 from 3 against Czech and 2/5 from 3 against Netherlands this last week. So it looks like his perimeter game is coming along.

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 02:31 PM

Not bad production for his age.

He definitely still has the potential, ability to score, and the knack to rebound.

I want to him in the Pro A in France....if he can put up good numbers there, then people can get more and more excited. So far so good....kid's got talent.

picnroll

07-23-2006, 02:39 PM

For the tournament he was 19/55 for .345 from a 22 foot three. Not too bad. Not great. But he's only 20. .345 doesn't rank in the top 25 three point shooters in the tournament.

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 02:43 PM

Yeah, his perimeter game is not his strength.

He probably has a nice low post game or is getting the points by attacking the basket.

If he can pat down his game inside 18ft consistently....the he still has plenty of time to work on his 3.

timvp

07-23-2006, 03:30 PM

Congrats to Sanikidze for taking it home. Even though it's probably low, low competition, it's always good to come out on top.

What would people in Europe compare the competition to? I'm guessing like Division III college basketball. Maybe worse.

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 04:22 PM

Well, one big difference is that Division A mainly consists of the Big European countries that have big leagues and that heavily produce NBA talent....Serbia Montenegro, Spain, Slovenia, Italy, Croatia, France, Greece, Russia, Germany, etc....

Division B clearly are smaller countries with less known talent....Georgia, Poland, Finland, Macedonia, Ireland, Austria, Ukraine, Portugal, Netherlands, etc....

That may be one of the reasons or it may not.....Sanikidze definitely deserves to be playing in that A Division.

ace3g

07-23-2006, 05:06 PM

and he will, Georgia earned promotion to Divison A in 2007 and so did F.Y.R. of Macedonia

Link (http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?coid={018E7442-8A1C-40D6-BD15-E231F9B04EC0}&articleMode=on)

its says they got a promotion to Division B but that is a typo since they are already in Division B.

Link 2 (http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?coid={EF6FE3E6-6E72-493E-B220-DE520D35827D}&articleMode=on)

that talks about Macedonia getting a promotion to Division A in 2007

Bruno

07-23-2006, 05:27 PM

and he will, Georgia earned promotion to Divison A in 2007 and so did F.Y.R. of Macedonia

Great but in 2007 Sanikidze will be too old to play with the U20 team.
We will know what he is worth when he will play in 2 month with an european team.

jman3000

07-23-2006, 05:29 PM

Is the number of teams in a division set? does the promotion of one team to A = the demotion of another team to B?

also his rebounding stats look quite impressive ... i haven't had the time to read the entire thread and am curious as to what position they play him at ... from those board numbers i'd assume a 4 ... but those 3 pt field goal attempt numbers make it look like he chills on the outside a lot. not comparing him to dirk ... but it would appear he has that kinda game.

Bruno

07-23-2006, 05:41 PM

Is the number of teams in a division set? does the promotion of one team to A = the demotion of another team to B?

Yes, there are 16 teams in the division A

also his rebounding stats look quite impressive ... i haven't had the time to read the entire thread and am curious as to what position they play him at ... from those board numbers i'd assume a 4 ... but those 3 pt field goal attempt numbers make it look like he chills on the outside a lot. not comparing him to dirk ... but it would appear he has that kinda game.

He played PF but it's a youth tournament. His future in nba (if he has one) is at SF.

ChumpDumper

07-23-2006, 05:44 PM

Melzeresque....

jman3000

07-23-2006, 05:50 PM

Yes, there are 16 teams in the division A

He played PF but it's a youth tournament. His future in nba (if he has one) is at SF.

so which country is getting the boot?

Bruno

07-23-2006, 06:01 PM

so which country is getting the boot?

Don't know exactly, maybe Germany and Belarus. If I see something on that tomorrow, I will post it in this thread.

edit : I've googled : it's Germany and Belarus for Georgia and Macedonia.

El_Mago

07-23-2006, 06:41 PM

Any word where he might be playing next?

I hope he can go and play somewhere big....like in the French, Spanish, or Italian league.

However, those big clubs might want long extensions, while I'm sure the Spurs have told him to stay clear from that.

velik_m

07-24-2006, 01:54 AM

Slovenia wins bronze in Division A (Italy gets owned again):

Emir Preldzic scored 29 points as Slovenia secured the bronze medal at the OSTCHEM U20 European Championship Men with an 83-75 victory over Italy.

Preldzic scored five points in a crucial 9-0 fourth quarter run as Slovenia pulled ahead 72-63 with 3:28 remaining in the game.

Italy would not get closer than five points during the rest of the game.

Besides Preldzic's performance, Slovenia also received double-digit scoring from Jaka Klobucar (15), Dejan Hohler (13), Gasper Vidmar (10) and Aljosa Remus (10).

Ivan Scarponi and Luigi Da Tome each scored 14 points, and Luca Vital and Luca Lechthaler chipped in with 11 points apiece for the Italians.

Slovenia pulled ahead 21-14 after the first quarter and then extended the lead to 11 points - 33-22 - with Klobucar's free throws midway through the second quarter.

After Slovenia led 39-35 at half-time, Italy took their first lead of the game 42-41 on Da Tome's three-pointer.

The teams were tied 57-57 after three quarters only for Slovenia to pull away with Preldzic`s scoring run.

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/en/Default.asp?coid={8AC3DFD4-E4E4-48D5-997E-DC494D5F5395}&articleMode=on

tempest186

07-25-2006, 10:34 AM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/Default.asp?coid={D8286E3A-B346-4737-BBC3-1AC6BDD3F7BE}&articleMode=on

Georgia Win Division B Title // 23 July 2006
Georgia defeated FYROM on Sunday night to claim the Ostchem European Championship Division B title.

Tournament MVP Viktor Sanikidze was once again the driving force for Georgia and his 30-point haul included 11 of 21 shooting, four three-pointers and a couple of thunderous dunks.

Combining with some smart play from his team-mates and in particular point guard Giorgi Gamqrelidze, who netted 15 points of his to go with his 8 assists, the Georgians took control in the last quarter running out winners 88-96.

With both teams already qualified for Division A, some thought the game would be a formality, but with serious bragging rights at stake both teams sought the win from the tip-off.

Some spectacular play from both teams had the crowd applauding through the game, and the intensity saw emotions and tempers rise at one point.

However ultimately with five Georgian players in double figures, FYROM could do little in the last quarter to prevent their drive for the gold medal. FYROM's center Samardziski tried to rally his team but his 23 points and 12 rebounds could not halt the sweet Georgia victory

picnroll

07-25-2006, 10:44 AM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/{A0E751F6-D34C-43D2-9310-EF67CD93DB77}large_h.jpg
Sanikidze is the one directly behind the trophy. Looks like he could still use a couple of trips to McDonald's.

Mr. Body

07-25-2006, 10:53 AM

He looks like a leprechaun in that picture.

Buddy Holly

07-25-2006, 01:55 PM

The coach on the far right looks... creepy.

Buddy Holly

07-25-2006, 02:10 PM

Anyone know his current height? Has he grown since the draft when he was said to be 6'8?

Solid D

07-25-2006, 02:17 PM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/{A0E751F6-D34C-43D2-9310-EF67CD93DB77}large_h.jpg

I wonder if that calf sleeve on Viktor's rt. leg is covering a tat or if it serves some other purpose (i.e. muscle strain).

ace3g

07-25-2006, 02:22 PM

http://www.fibaeurope-u20men.com/enDivB/files/%7B8C3E879D-8095-430F-B94C-FDD7E139F206%7Dlarge_h.jpg

ChumpDumper

07-25-2006, 02:30 PM

Good wingspan....

Buddy Holly

07-25-2006, 02:31 PM

I wonder if there's a chance he plays this year and is the "long three" we're looking for this season.

I'd take him over Melzer.

T Park

07-25-2006, 02:33 PM

I'd take him over Melzer.

Based on what.

ace3g

07-25-2006, 02:35 PM

well he can rebound the ball really well for a SF, he can play alot of minutes consecutively and not get tired (he played 3 or 4 straight games of 35+ minutes)

timvp

07-25-2006, 02:45 PM

Sanikidze was a straight laced young man with a George Washington haircut. Then he came to America and turned into a freak.

Sorry, Georgia.

Solid D

07-25-2006, 02:46 PM

Viktor could have been playing 35 minutes and scoring 30 for Little Sisters of the Pure in Heart, but that doesn't mean he's ready for the NBA.

T Park

07-25-2006, 02:49 PM

Then he came to America and turned into a freak.

:lol

I would just say that he copied hip american culture.

The fedora he wore to some games though last year was just plain stupid.

Viktor, stop trying to look like Kevin Federline for the love of pete.

Kori Ellis

07-25-2006, 02:51 PM

:lol

The fedora he wore to some games though last year was just plain stupid.

It wasn't worse than that giant cowboy hat he wore with that shiny shirt.

I think his Hooters waitress girlfriend might be influencing him :lol

boutons_

07-25-2006, 03:13 PM

Remember Tony's mother was at one game a couple years ago, the 03 Finals? In a cowboy/rhinesone outfit. Very tacky (at least to some), but she was just having fun. Fuck the arbiters of style and taste. :)

One must remember that all the costumes that US citizens wear is part of the American dream for foreigners, who compound the style choices by not being fully attuned to what is "good" taste within the each costume's sub-culture.

Kori Ellis

07-25-2006, 03:14 PM

Remember Tony's mother was at one game a couple years ago, the 03 Finals? In a cowboy/rhinesone outfit. Very tacky (at least to some), but she was just having fun. Fuck the arbiters of style and taste. :)

She wears those tacky outfits to Spurs games all year long. :lol

Tony's mom and dad are lightyears apart in their sense of style.