Hey Chumpdumper!

[tlongII]

Hosting files/films of NBA action requires the express written consent of the NBA. Linking to the host of said files/films does not. It is not illegal!

[ChumpDumper]

The NBA asked us not to, and they give out the press passes. Take it up with them.

[sickdsm]

Do we have to all get express written consent for our avatars and sigs? Just wondering if need to get ahold of Matt Groening or if you need to round out some Breakfast club or whatnot permission slips.



Seriously, I am wondering what makes it ok to have photos's and vid's in our posts and posts on major (bigger, more spotlighted) sites but not to links to sites that use NBA material without consent.


I tried to reply right after i posted on that thread but alas, i can't find it now.


Apparently Phase 3 has progressed faster than normal.

[tlongII]

The NBA asked us not to, and they give out the press passes. Take it up with them.

Then you got PWNED!

[sickdsm]

Nope, that thread isn't here either. Guess i'll check in classic becuase obviously there was nothing worth deleting that thread over..............

[ChumpDumper]

Not really, small price to pay.

[sickdsm]

He's a bitch anyway Tlong.


Fucker doesn't realize the reason why this forum is so great is becuase it's open. Whether it be swearing or calling a mod a rotten cantelope infested corspe, that's WHY WERE ALL HERE!


Why don't you start up a spurs version of lakersunderground or another one of those mod-power trip sites?

[ChumpDumper]

This thread is here.

Flame away.

[tlongII]

And as far as YouTube is concerned...

The Digital Rights Millenium Act ruled that content hosters (like myspace, YouTube, etc) are not legally responsible for the material that users upload to their service as long as the service employs someone who can be contacted by the rights-holder in order to have the copyrighted material removed.

So, the NBA can require YouTube to take down clips (one by one, they can't just say "Take down any clip we own"), but as long as YouTube does it, YouTube can't be held responsible for the clips up at any given point.

[ChumpDumper]

The NBA can take away press passes for any reason.

[sickdsm]

This thread is here.

Flame away.


No it isn't.


Put the original one back up.



I spent a good 2 minutes of my life flaming your bitch ass that either got posted right before you deted the thread or didn't make it through.

[ChumpDumper]

The original thread was just a link to NBA video that was never going to stay.

Now you have your little forum in this thread to flame me and rail against one of the few rules you have to follow around here without spamming the NBA board.

Have at it.

[sickdsm]

If ChumpDumper was President:

Walmart would be the only store to buy ANYTHING. After all, what you need is there anyway.


1984 would be the title of his biography, not a frightening tale of what could be.

The nba teams would not be allowed to sign players that are similar. Close enough? Right?


You didn't merge the threads, you deleted one and a sliver of the thread made it here in the forum of a new post.

[tlongII]

The NBA can take away press passes for any reason.

If you're concerned about the Spurs taking away your press passes I understand. Hopefully this site will grow and Kori/LJ's influence in the market will become such that you need not be concerned. In my opinion it would be ridiculous for the Spurs to revoke your press passes for something like this.

[ChumpDumper]

Were I President, there would be no consequences for Kori if we allowed links to illegal NBA video.

[sickdsm]

The original thread was just a link to NBA video that was never going to stay.

Now you have your little forum in this thread to flame me and rail against one of the few rules you have to follow around here without spamming the NBA board.

Have at it.



Answer my question then bitch, i was serious, that's why i said seriously. Do you just pick and choose what's legal or not, did you have a personal grudge against the poster, youtube.com or Clyde, or is there a difference beteween vids of bowen kicking wally or whatnot in a avatar without written consent from the NBA or merely someone not affiliated with the site posting a link to a place not affliated with the site having fun with NBA vids?

[sickdsm]

Were I President, there would be no consequences for Kori if we allowed links to illegal NBA video.




Soooooo, in other words you have no cares to what happans to those affected as long as you and your freinds are fine?

[tlongII]

Were I President, there would be no consequences for Kori if we allowed links to illegal NBA video.

Please don't call it illegal after I have explained to you that it isn't.

[ChumpDumper]

I have avatars turned off. I know posters have been asked to take vids out of their sigs.

[ChumpDumper]

Please don't call it illegal after I have explained to you that it isn't.You didn't.

[sickdsm]

The original thread was just a link to NBA video that was never going to stay.

Now you have your little forum in this thread to flame me and rail against one of the few rules you have to follow around here without spamming the NBA board.

Have at it.


That's fine, you had already edited the link so it was gone.


Don't try to use that excuse.

[sickdsm]

I have avatars turned off. I know posters have been asked to take vids out of their sigs.


Better delete them. Stern isn't going to roll with "ChumpDumper asked me to get rid of it"


That's pretty rude of you to let Kori's site take a fall because you merely "asked them"

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't do the asking.

[tlongII]

You didn't.

Oh really?


And as far as YouTube is concerned...

The Digital Rights Millenium Act ruled that content hosters (like myspace, YouTube, etc) are not legally responsible for the material that users upload to their service as long as the service employs someone who can be contacted by the rights-holder in order to have the copyrighted material removed.

So, the NBA can require YouTube to take down clips (one by one, they can't just say "Take down any clip we own"), but as long as YouTube does it, YouTube can't be held responsible for the clips up at any given point.



Hosting files/films of NBA action requires the express written consent of the NBA. Linking to the host of said files/films does not. It is not illegal!

[ChumpDumper]

It's an illegal video.
Hosting files/films of NBA action requires the express written consent of the NBA.We don't alow links to illegal video for the reasons I already stated.

Why is this so difficult to accept?

[tlongII]

It's an illegal video. We don't alow links to illegal video for the reasons I already stated.

Why is this so difficult to accept?


Semantics. I suppose you could call it an illegal video. However, the host is doing nothing illegal and there is nothing illegal about linking to it. That is the difficult thing to accept about your action.

[ChumpDumper]

I suppose you could call it an illegal video.No consent = illegal. YouTube's ignorance of the content doesn't magically make it legal.

Ultimately it's about what the NBA wants. They are in the process of digitizing most of their library of game footage and have spoken about allowing users to make their own highlight films, mix tapes, etc. It's understandable why they don't want these YouTube vids flying around and why they will use their leverage to keep links to them out of places like this.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why so much bitching about posting videos here? Why not go to one of the other thousand basketball message boards that allow it?

I can't post a video here :cry :cry :cry

[ChumpDumper]

I'd much rather be bitching about gassing the Kings.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'd much rather be bitching about gassing the Kings.
Bitch away. Just remember that you didn't win shit this year either.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know what you guys don't fucking get.

The NBA said DO NOT POST LINKS TO GAME VIDEO IN YOUR FORUM. Any such video is illegal -- they (Youtube, etc) don't have copyright permission from the NBA to re-broadcast, distribute, etc it.

End of story.

ChumpDumper isn't being a bitch. He's doing what I asked to protect the site.

If you guys want to start a forum and post video there, by all means, do so.

I give you so much fucking leniency about everything else, I'd think you'd respect the one rule that's very very important to us maintaining this site.

Thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

Bitch away. Just remember that you didn't win shit this year either.We used up all the gas before the Mavs came to town. :elephant

Believe me, I'm almost as used to losing as Kingfans.

[TheSanityAnnex]

We used up all the gas before the Mavs came to town. :elephant
Did they ever specify if it was a propane gas smell? a gasoline gas smell? or a fart gas smell?

If someone actually dropped a sulfur stink bomb in there, that is some funny shit.

[ShoogarBear]

Now can we have a rule about posting links to GiG's pornos?

[tlongII]

I don't know what you guys don't fucking get.

The NBA said DO NOT POST LINKS TO GAME VIDEO IN YOUR FORUM. Any such video is illegal -- they (Youtube, etc) don't have copyright permission from the NBA to re-broadcast, distribute, etc it.

End of story.

ChumpDumper isn't being a bitch. He's doing what I asked to protect the site.

If you guys want to start a forum and post video there, by all means, do so.

I give you so much fucking leniency about everything else, I'd think you'd respect the one rule that's very very important to us maintaining this site.

Thanks.

Fine. I understand what he's doing and will abide by it. However I will point out again that YouTube is doing nothing illegal and it also is not illegal to post a link to it.

[Kori Ellis]

Fine. I understand what he's doing and will abide by it. However I will point out again that YouTube is doing nothing illegal and it also is not illegal to post a link to it.

YouTube turning their back on what videos are hosted on their site doesn't mean the videos aren't illegal. They are distributing copyrighted material without permission.

Anyway, end of story.