Official RMR Game Thread - Spurs vs Mavs 6:00pm, Friday

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs summer league team starts playing tomorrow (Friday) at Rocky Mountain Revue in Salt Lake City. Unfortunately, LJ and I couldn't go this year but I have a friend who is a reporter in Seattle who is going for a few days of it and will get us pics, etc.

The only person that I have real interest in on the Spurs team in Mahinmi and perhaps Roman Levter.

Here's the Spurs initial roster (http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=81B73EEA-75C1-4F31-9EC8-22BAD0EC63B2), but we'll see if it's changed tomorrow.

Other teams playing are: Utah, Dallas, Seattle, Philly, and Atlanta.
My friend Noel Felix is on the Seattle team, along with their draft pick Saer Sene who has the biggest wingspan in the league.

Here's the rest of the RMR rosters.

http://www.nba.com/jazz/Revue/2006_Rocky_Mountain_Revue_Team_Rosters.html

[angel_luv]

Good luck Noel. :)

[Solid D]

I didn't know Dallas had Jackson Vroman on their RMR roster. He's a worker bee.

[Amarelooms]

When do the Spurs and Mavs play....round 8 baby lol!!!

[Kori Ellis]

When do the Spurs and Mavs play....round 8 baby lol!!!

http://www.nba.com/jazz/Revue/06_schedule.html

[ChumpDumper]

Fairly unexciting bunch.

A couple of Toros are in there.

Our PFs are going to get some inflated rebound numbers because of our centers' off the scale stiffness factor.

I'd like to see if Levter is anything close to being a long 3 project.

Donta Smith and Mel Sanders are going to put up 20 shots a game.

[strangeweather]

Donta Smith and Mel Sanders are going to put up 20 shots a game.
Because no one else can shoot, or just because they're prone to jacking up shots?

[ChumpDumper]

The former, and that seems to be the Spurs summer league MO -- designate a scorer and force feed.

[Solid D]

CJ Watson and Taquan Dean can shoot.

[Kori Ellis]

The Seattle team cut Omar Williams and Kenton Paulino today before leaving for Utah. I wonder if the Spurs team cut any of their guys.

[timvp]

I'm most excited about Mahinmi and Donta Smith. Smith might be the young athlete the Spurs need. His numbers in the NBDL were quite impressive.

I wish Melvin Sanders wasn't on the team. He's not an NBA player but he'll hog a lot of the spotlight from other players the Spurs need to get a look at. Sanders is a good guy, a good teammate and everything, but there's no way he should be on the team next year.

I'm not expecting too much from Mahinmi. I don't think he's ready to put up monster numbers, but hopefully he gives us some hope. :)

If Donta Smith plays well and Mahinmi shows promise, that's about as much as we can hope for.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Kori do you know if WOAI will be able to show clips of the games?

[Kori Ellis]

Kori do you know if WOAI will be able to show clips of the games?

I don't know if they'll get clips from NBATV or not.

[Shank]

Nothing Mavs-related has won since June 11th. Go RMR team, go!

[ChumpDumper]

It's the same as the Vegas team minus some guys like Andre Emmett. Don't get your hopes up.

[Solid D]

Just think, this time last year...Donta Smith was passing the ball to Boris Diaw (a former Pau player) in a Summer League game. (the S&T of Joe Johnson for Diaw and 2 1st Rounders was completed in August of 2005).

[Shank]

It's the same as the Vegas team minus some guys like Andre Emmett. Don't get your hopes up.

Do I even need to say the name to you? The Gamebreaker? The Difference Maker?

Pittsnoggle.

[ggoose25]

are they only shown on NBATV or will espn show some games too??

[SlovenianGuy]

There's a small mistake in the roster:

CJ Watson G 6-2 176 9/22/03 Tennessee R

[SsKSpurs21]

if mahinmi blows up during the summer league and we still dont find a decent big, do yall think the spurs might just sign him and throw him in the fire or stick with the initial plan and wait a year?

[ChumpDumper]

If he blows up and one of our offer sheets is matched?

Maybe.

I doubt he blows up though.

[SsKSpurs21]

ok maybe not blow up but what about a serviceable nba player...someone better than elson, jackie butler, or reggie evans?

[ChumpDumper]

That would be blowing up in my opinion.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Any guesses on how many FT's Dirk is gonna shoot during today's game??

[Kori Ellis]

This game is starting. I'm going to get updates every few minutes and post them.

[Kori Ellis]

First game was 88-74 Philly over Seattle.

I'm waiting for my friend to get done with Sonics interviews and then I'll get updates on the Spurs-Mavs game.

[Manu20]

Will Mahinmi get the start?

[ducks]

I see I was hoping for a update
IAN GO GO GO GO GO

[strangeweather]

That would be blowing up in my opinion.
Completely. He's just a kid, and no one outside of France and the Spurs' scouts had heard of him until last year's draft. Being ready to be a plausible member of an NBA rotation is definitely blowing up.

[Kori Ellis]

17-15 Spurs with 7:19 to go in the 2nd.

The internet access isn't working well in the gym, so I'll have to call the guy at the half and get the stats.

[picnroll]

17-15? Mahinmi must be blocking all kinds of shots. :lol

[yourtehclay]

what's the website?

[ducks]

mormons must hate the internet

[David@SLCC]

The internet access isn't working well in the gym, so I'll have to call the guy at the half and get the stats.

Kori, is it completely out or is he/she just having problems connecting? I'm at home right now, but you can have your friend call my cell if there is anything I can help with.

[Kori Ellis]

Kori, is it completely out or is he/she just having problems connecting? I'm at home right now, but you can have your friend call my cell if there is anything I can help with.

I guess it's out all together. I'll have him call you if he needs something. I still have your cell number from 2 years ago. His name is Brian.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm at home right nowWTF man? Get yourself down to the game!

[Kori Ellis]

Mavs are up 33-29 at start of 2nd half. -- Text message from Noel Felix

[David@SLCC]

I wish I could! Babysitting duties...

[ChumpDumper]

Mavs are up 33-29 at start of 2nd half. -- Text message from Noel FelixI totally jinxed us with all the Mav summer league smack.

[Kori Ellis]

Halftime

33-29 Mavs

andre brown 12m 10p 4r 3f 2t
dean 5pt 4f 9 min
sanders 6pt
mahinmi 13 min 1p 1 bl 2f 3r 0-3
small base, getting pushed around
jsmith 0-5FG, 2to
donta 0-2
melzer 1pt, 2rb

[Kori Ellis]

If you compare Mahinmi to Sene of the Sonics.

Sene had 7pts/6blocks in the first game today.

[strangeweather]

If you compare Mahinmi to Sene of the Sonics.

Sene had 7pts/6blocks in the first game today.
Well, at least he's gotten a couple of boards out there.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't even know where Andre played last season.

Ah, Korea.

[strangeweather]

I don't even know where Andre played last season.

Ah, Korea.
Thanks. I was about to ask.

[ro_50]

Thanks for the updates Kory.

[Kori Ellis]

51-51

[Kori Ellis]

I'm talking to Noel on the phone for updates now.

[ChumpDumper]

How did Noel end up doing?

[Kori Ellis]

59-58 spurs up 1 - 7min in 4th

Timeout Dallas.

[Kori Ellis]

Mahinmi just got a sweet ass big block.

He missed a huge dunk though that would have been on the whole team.

[ducks]

ian GO

[ducks]

Throw It Down On The Mavs

[Kori Ellis]

How did Noel end up doing?

19 points, 6-for-10 and three 3pointers.

[Kori Ellis]

5:31 left, Spurs up by one.

[johngateswhiteley]

....ahhh, here are the updates. Kori, nice work here....

[Kori Ellis]

68-61 spurs

3 min left, timeout Dallas

[timvp]

68-61 spurs

3 min left, timeout Dallas

Get ready for the Mavs to get back into it at the line :pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

Presti and Carlesimo are on the sidelines scouting.

[KEDA]

Dirk will come out from the stands, just for this game, GUARANSHEED!!!!

[picnroll]

Cuban working on his blog as we post.

[Kori Ellis]

Noel has to call me back now. I'll get the updates again in a few minutes.

[Solid D]

Noel has to call me back now. I'll get the updates again in a few minutes.

NOOOOOOOOOOO! That's like the cable going out. :lol

[picnroll]

See if you can get Noel to do a scouting report on Mahinmi. Also see if you can get him to flip off Hill and sign with the Spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

See if you can get Noel to do a scouting report on Mahinmi. Also see if you can get him to flip off Hill and sign with the Spurs.

He was getting pushed around a lot by Pavel in the 1st half.
He looks comfortable and moves well.
Noel might be guarding him tomorrow, so he stayed after his own game to watch him. I'll get more info when he calls back.

[ducks]

how are we suppose to get updates if noel is guarding him?

[koopa]

how are we suppose to get updates if noel is guarding him?


maybe kori should tell him to buy those wireless things you put on your ear lol

[Kori Ellis]

how are we suppose to get updates if noel is guarding him?

My reporter friend Brian will give us updates tomorrow:) Today Noel stayed late after his own game and happened to call me from courtside, so that's why I was getting info from him.

[Solid D]

how are we suppose to get updates if noel is guarding him?

:lol ducks is spoiled because of an NBA player's kindness.

[picnroll]

If Mahinmi is defending Noel and trying to keep him off the boards that should be a good test.

[ducks]

:angel :angel :angel :angel :angel :angel

[Kori Ellis]

If Mahinmi is defending Noel and trying to keep him off the boards that should be a good test.

Mahinmi might match up with Sene and not Noel. I'm not sure but I told Noel to watch the Spurs so he gets an idea of how they play.

[MannyIsGod]

how are we suppose to get updates if noel is guarding him?Blue Tooth webcam attached to his head.

[Kori Ellis]

76-71
Spurs

12.5 seconds left.

[ducks]

atleast ian can block shots
looks like he needs to eat some triple cheeseburgers

[Budkin]

I need some photos! :spin

[Kori Ellis]

79-71 final score

[ducks]

Blue Tooth webcam attached to his head.


that would be cool
but internet there sucks

[Budkin]

GO SPURS GO! :lol

[Kori Ellis]

I need some photos! :spin

My friend Brian took some, I'll get them tonight.

[Mr. Body]

Sounds like Mahinmi didn't embarrass himself. He did well for himself.

[Solid D]

79-71 final score

And the road to the Finals begins.

[timvp]

Tied four games to four.

On to Game 9.

:smokin

[Budkin]

My friend Brian took some, I'll get them tonight.

Awesome, thanks Kori!

FYI, it looks like this page will eventually have some official ones:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/Revue/2006_Revue_Photo_Gallery.html

[strangeweather]

And the road to the Finals begins.
:lmao




P.S. Thanks for all the updates, Kori! :)

[ChumpDumper]

19 points, 6-for-10 and three 3pointers.
:pctoss Arrrgh! We had this guy!

Well, good for him.

[Mr. Body]

Donta Smith the expected 2nd round flame-out?

[ace3g]

yeah I am the most interested in Donta Smith and Ian Mahinmi I hope they play well in these games, I think Donta could be a good SF backup to Bowen for cheap

[MannyIsGod]

:pctoss Arrrgh! We had this guy!I know man, it sucks ass.

[Kori Ellis]

unofficial box

tdean 5 pts
a brown 16 pts
meltzer 9 pts
ian 4pts, 2bl, 7f, 3r 23min
melvin 23 pts, 11-16fg
watson 5 pts
jsmith 11pts, 4 r, 3 st, 2blk - huge block and then dunk at end got crowd going
otis 5pts
kara 0 pts, 3r
donta 1 pt

[Kori Ellis]

I couldn't hear Noel anymore because Utah is playing now so there's actually fans there. So that's all I got until he goes back to the hotel. He's watching the Utah game now because he has 3 friends on the team.

[timvp]

I don't know why they even waste time with Melvin. Guy will never make it in the NBA. Might as well give his minutes and shot attempts to someone with an NBA transferable game.

[Kori Ellis]

:pctoss Arrrgh! We had this guy!

Well, good for him.

He wasn't really satisfied with his game because he wasn't posting up enough. He was getting position but the guards weren't getting it to him and he'd have to come back out. Their guards sucked ass. Denham Brown was 1-for-10.

[ace3g]

looks like Jamar smith was a good late addition to the team, sort of disappointed Donta smith only had 1 pt

[infinite styles]

who got all the rebs? and does 7f stand for 7 fouls? are they allowed more in the summer leagues?

[Kori Ellis]

who got all the rebs? and does 7f stand for 7 fouls? are they allowed more in the summer leagues?

You can get unlimited fouls in summer league. I don't know who got all the rebounds, that's all the info I could hear.

We'll have to wait for the boxscore.

[ChumpDumper]

who got all the rebs? and does 7f stand for 7 fouls? are they allowed more in the summer leagues?Yeah. I think Telfair may have this year's record for PFs at 10, but i've seen more in previous years.

[Mr. Body]

I don't know why they even waste time with Melvin. Guy will never make it in the NBA. Might as well give his minutes and shot attempts to someone with an NBA transferable game.

He's obviously the most NBA-ready guy on the summer team. Whatever that says about the rest of the guys.

[infinite styles]

You can get unlimited fouls in summer league. I don't know who got all the rebounds, that's all the info I could hear.

We'll have to wait for the boxscore.

oh ok. i was just wondering on the rebs cause the bigs only accounted for like 5 on what you had posted but I'll wait for the box then.

[Kori Ellis]

oh ok. i was just wondering on the rebs cause the bigs only accounted for like 5 on what you had posted but I'll wait for the box then.

Yeah I'm not even sure of the complete accuracy of what I typed. It was loud and on a cell phone. I get what I can get. :)

[infinite styles]

Yeah. I think Telfair may have this year's record for PFs at 10, but i've seen more in previous years.

guys like KVH would have loved the unlimited fouls deal in the playoffs against duncan. but i guess its good cause it allows the guys to be more aggressive and rather than be straddled with fouls in the first half and what not.

[loveforthegame]

I think these links are ok. They're taken from yahoo sports. I'm going to go check getty images for more.

(Karaulov)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=8ac0d5acef344f9cad5227c0791f2acf.maveri cks_basketball_slcc115&prov=ap


Mahinmi

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71432143kh009_rocky_mountai_8_38_42_pm&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=2286a1a4a6344833af9d99c9bd5912cb.maveri cks__basketball_slcc112&prov=ap

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=b859ade45b8e4701a32dd24cbc14b25b.spurs_ basketball_slcc114&prov=ap

[strangeweather]

guys like KVH would have loved the unlimited fouls deal in the playoffs against duncan. but i guess its good cause it allows the guys to be more aggressive and rather than be straddled with fouls in the first half and what not.
It's a developmental league, and players develop by being on the court.

[Mr. Body]

jsmith 11pts, 4 r, 3 st, 2blk - huge block and then dunk at end got crowd going


Dude really filled the stat sheet.

[ducks]

smith seems like he might make it

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.nba.com/media/jazz/06game2.pdf

[objective]

no wonder the Spurs didn't sign Javtokas, Mahinmi has his jersey number. :blah

[ducks]

07/14/2006 Delta Center, Salt Lake City, UT
Officials: #01 Official One, #02 Official Two, #03 Official Three
Time of Game: 1:58
Attendance: Not Counted Yet
VISITOR: Dallas Mavericks (0-1)
NO PLAYER MIN FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA OR DR TOT A PF ST TO BS PTS
11 Larry O'Bannon F 29:07 2 7 0 2 4 4 0 1 1 0 4 0 1 0 8
08 Darius Washington F 26:22 4 9 0 3 0 0 0 3 3 4 3 1 5 0 8
24 Pavel Podkolzin C 14:48 3 3 0 0 1 1 1 4 5 0 2 0 1 0 7
01 Rawle Marshall G 35:49 6 18 0 1 8 10 0 7 7 2 3 0 4 1 20
28 D.J. Mbenga G 21:15 2 4 0 0 0 0 0 5 5 1 3 0 1 0 4
43 Jackson Vroman 21:50 3 9 0 0 5 7 0 1 1 3 5 0 3 1 11
32 Corey Belser 15:04 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 1 0 0 2
09 Taliek Brown 13:38 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 3 2 3 0 2
40 Pops Mensah-Bonsu 22:07 4 7 0 0 1 1 2 2 4 0 0 0 2 3 9
13 Maurice Ager DNP - Coach's Decision
03 Jose Barea DNP - Coach's Decision
50 Brad Buckman DNP - Coach's Decision
35 Kevin Pittsnogle DNP - Coach's Decision
33 Josh Powell DNP - Coach's Decision
12 E.J. Rowland DNP - Coach's Decision
TOTALS: 26 61 0 6 19 23 3 26 29 12 25 4 20 5 71
PERCENTAGES: 42.6% 00.0% 82.6% TM REB: 11 TOT TO: 20 (22 PTS)
HOME: SAN ANTONIO SPURS (1-0)
NO PLAYER MIN FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA OR DR TOT A PF ST TO BS PTS
03 Taquan Dean F 15:09 2 7 0 1 1 1 1 3 4 3 5 1 0 0 5
14 Andre Brown F 24:53 8 13 0 0 0 1 4 3 7 1 6 1 2 0 16
10 Rich Melzer C 24:53 4 8 0 2 1 2 2 4 6 4 1 1 0 3 9
15 Ian Mahinmi G 23:00 0 3 0 0 4 6 1 2 3 0 7 2 1 2 4
04 Melvin Saunders G 27:29 11 16 0 1 1 4 0 4 4 1 0 1 2 0 23
02 CJ Watson 26:02 1 7 0 2 3 3 0 3 3 8 1 1 3 0 5
16 Jamar Smith 22:33 5 12 0 0 1 1 1 3 4 0 2 3 3 2 11
17 Otis George 15:48 1 2 0 0 3 4 1 0 1 1 3 0 1 0 5
22 Sergei Karaulov 8:04 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 0 0
09 Donta Smith 12:09 0 3 0 0 1 2 0 4 4 1 1 1 1 0 1
08 A.J. Kuhle DNP - Coach's Decision
05 Charles Lee DNP - Coach's Decision
18 Roman Levter DNP - Coach's Decision
20 Adam Parada DNP - Coach's Decision
21 Frans Steyn DNP - Coach's Decision
12 Lamayn Wilson DNP - Coach's Decision
TOTALS: 32 71 0 6 15 24 10 28 38 19 28 11 13 7 79
PERCENTAGES: 45.1% 00.0% 62.5% TM REB: 9 TOT TO: 14 (17 PTS)
SCORE BY PERIODS 1 2 3 4 FINAL
Mavericks 17 16 19 19 71
SPURS 11 18 22 28 79
Pts. in the Pt. Mavericks 34, SPURS 50 Biggest Lead Mavericks 8, SPURS 9
2nd Chance Pts. Mavericks 6, SPURS 16 Lead Changes 5
FB Pts. Mavericks 6, SPURS 17 Times Tied 5

[ChumpDumper]

SALT LAKE CITY (July 14, 2006) – In game two of the first day of the Rocky Mountain Revue, Pavel Podkolzin took over the floor presence at 7-5. The large crowd was awed by the size of the big man from Russia. Podkolzin started hot with an early dunk and a couple of very strong rebounding efforts.

Pops Mensah-Bonsu and Darius Washington were also fan favorites coming into the Revue as very recognizable college names out of George Washington and Memphis respectably.

For San Antonio, Andre Brown, had 10 points in the first half, while Louisville grad Taquan Dean added five in the first half in front of a nearly sold out crowd at the Lifetime Activities Center at Salt Lake Community College.

The scoring in the first half was very spread out for the Mavericks, who led at the half, 33-29. Of the nine players that got playing time in the first half, seven of them scored. Rawle Marshall led the way with eight points going only 3-for-10 from the field.

As the second half started, the Spurs made a run to tie the game early thanks to a big quarter from Melvin Saunders who had 6 points.

The offense picked up for both teams in the third quarter, and surprisingly the Spurs led the points in the paint 34-24 despite the overwhelming size advantage for the Mavs. Podkolzin was held scoreless in the quarter, largely due to the outstanding physical play by the Spurs’ big men, Ian Mahinmi and Rich Melzer.

As the game went on, both teams turned to their transition games. Through a lot of up and down action in the third and fourth quarters, it grew apparent that both teams were rusty going into the summer league.

Late in the fourth, the Spurs pulled away as the Mavericks grew tired and missed open shots. Despite the sloppiness late, Dallas still has a chance with 40 seconds left as two free throws by Marshall pulled the game to within three points after being down as many as 8 a few minutes earlier. However, a strong sequence for Melzer which included a 12-foot jumper and a huge blocked shot on the other end of the court ended all hope for Dallas.

Saunders led all scorers with 23 points for San Antonio on 11 of 16 from the floor. Andre Brown added 16 points to help lead the Spurs to the 79-71 victory. Rawle Marshall had 20 points in a losing effort for the Mavericks.

Former West Virginia standout, Kevin Pittsnogle, did not dress in the game for the Spurs. No reason was given by Spurs officials for Pittsnogle’s absence from the lineup.

[Maybe because he's on the Mavericks' roster.]

[Kori Ellis]

SALT LAKE CITY (July 14, 2006) - In game one of the Reebok Rocky Mountain Revue, things started very slowly as players and coaches got to know each other throughout the first quarter for both the Seattle Sonics and the Philadelphia 76ers.

Seattle’s first round pick, Mouhamed Sene, made his presence known early in the game at Salt Lake Community College on Friday scoring the first five points for Seattle and blocking two shots within the first minute of the game. Sene played only six minutes in the first quarter and scored seven points.

The Sonics ended the quarter with a 12 point lead behind Noel Felix’s 11 points and a suffocating defense. Seattle continued its strong defensive performance in the second quarter as the 76ers took four minutes to score its first points of the quarter.

The first half ended after 24 minutes of very physical basketball with 30 total free throws attempted. Both teams combined for 26 turnovers (13 each) in the half.

The 76ers made some good half-time adjustments to the intense Seattle defense and scored the first 11 points of the second half and took their first lead of the game three minutes into the third quarter at 51-49.

At the end of the third quarter, the game was tied at 60 after the Sonics only managed to score 11 points.

The 76ers began to pull away in the fourth quarter as they took Sene and Felix out of the game. Sene was held scoreless in the last three quarters of the game. Felix began to get hot late in the fourth but Seattle couldn’t make a stop as the fourth quarter went on.

Philadelphia’s Shavlik Randolph proved to be too much for the Seattle defense that had been so stout in the first half. Randolph ended the game with 25 points in the game, 15 of which came in the second half. The 76ers strong finish led them to the 88-74 win.

Felix finished the game with 19 points and Keith Langford added 15 points for the Sonics. Philadelphia had four players in double-digits and spread the scoring between nine different players.

:elephant :elephant :elephant

I'm so proud of him.

[ducks]

However, a strong sequence for Melzer which included a 12-foot jumper and a huge blocked shot on the other end of the court ended all hope for Dallas.

[Mr. Body]

Melzer with not a bad game. 4/8 fg, 6rbs, 4 ast, 1 foul, 1 stl, 0 pf, 3 blks, 9 pts.

Maybe there really is something there.

[Kori Ellis]

Hmm ... Noel's over the phone Spurs box score wasn't that inaccurate for the conditions.

Brown, Melzer and JSmith all pretty solid.

[yavozerb]

I was just about to comment on melzer..Who knows, maybe the guy can actually contribute!!

[Mr. Body]

Who did Richard Belzer get the huge block on?

[ChumpDumper]

:elephant :elephant :elephant

I'm so proud of him.:wtf is with their point guards? They're better off running Andre Emmett at the point -- and I'd never run Andre Emmett at the point.

They need to page Marques Perry.

[Mr. Body]

Reading waaaaaaaaaay too much into it, but what stands out for Melzer is 0 TOs, 1 foul. Means he's latched onto the pace very well.

[Kori Ellis]

Who did Richard Belzer get the huge block on?

Brian told me that huge block near the end of the game was JSmith's block, not Melzer. Or maybe there were two. I don't know who they were on.

[yavozerb]

When do they play again??

[Spurologist]

Former West Virginia standout, Kevin Pittsnogle, did not dress in the game for the Spurs. No reason was given by Spurs officials for Pittsnogle’s absence from the lineup.

[Maybe because he's on the Mavericks' roster.]

I thought both Gansey and Pittsnogle were on the heat's rosters.



Hmm ... Noel's over the phone Spurs box score wasn't that inaccurate for the conditions.

Brown, Melzer and JSmith all pretty solid.

Was the opposition sucking out there or was his effort legit. Are there any highlights of the game available. I'll check up on nba.com

[Kori Ellis]

When do they play again??

Tomorrow at 4pm central they play the Sonics.

[Kori Ellis]

I talked to three people who saw the Mavs-Spurs game and they said it was just an ugly game in the first half (outside ABrown) but in the second, the Spurs team started to get it together. Melvin obviously had a huge second half.

[spurschick]

A photo of Ian from the game

http://www.spurschick.com/ian.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Just looked at Melzer's measurements.

Dude is long....

It'll be nice to take an extended look at him.

[ducks]

is melzer the one that has the 7 foot 2 inch wing span?

[yavozerb]

Does Ian look like he has put a little weight ?? Hard to tell from pic, but does look thicker

[Mr. Body]

Lots of people there.

How much of the Spurs' getting it together in the 2nd half had to do with Watson? Guy had 8 assists. Good point guards are so important to SL.

[Kori Ellis]

is melzer the one that has the 7 foot 2 inch wing span?

Yes

[Spurologist]

A photo of Ian from the game

http://www.spurschick.com/ian.jpg

Is this the same guy people are saying needs to GAIN weight.

:nope

[Manu20]

Not a bad game for Ian.

4 points 3 rebounds 2 blocks and 2 steals in 23 minutes.

[ChumpDumper]

Is this the same guy people are saying needs to lose weight.

:nopeI don't think anyone has ever said that about Ian. Quite the opposite.

[Mr. Body]

Is this the same guy people are saying needs to lose weight.

:nope


:lol No, he's the guy who needs to GAIN weight.

[Spurologist]

I don't think anyone has ever said that about Ian. Quite the opposite.

I meant gain.

He did look thin from the video highlights I saw. He must have been quickly introduced to American food. Burgers, fries, hot dogs..... the works

[ChumpDumper]

His frame could easily take more weight.

[ducks]

he can take bulters extra 10 pounds ....

[TMSKILZ]

Ian won't make it, we should trade his rights.

[ducks]

DUDE IS 19
looks good for that age and first game in usa

[Leetonidas]

Ian has some long arms...

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs are going to develop him, bring him in every summer, keep a close eye on his progress, talk about him many times on the news... and then decline to sign him onto the team for the next ten years. If you're a foreign national, you have to be 30 to play on the Spurs team.

[ducks]

spurs have to pay him a certain amount
is he not a first round draft pick?

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, he gets guaranteed money. It'll start in 10 years, when he's 30 and finally decide there's room for him.

[Solid D]

WOAI TV was the only local news station to show video of this game. It showed CJ Watson do a nice crossover dribble to draw a double and then dish inside to Jamar Smith for the flush. It showed Ian switching off on Rawle Marshall while Melzer recovered and getting a hand on Marshall's shot, with Melzer also getting a piece of it from behind. It also showed Melzer taking a shot from the wing (with Ian and Brown battling bigs underneath), and then getting the long rebound and driving past Pavel for the two-hand dunk.

[Spurologist]

The Spurs are going to develop him, bring him in every summer, keep a close eye on his progress, talk about him many times on the news... and then decline to sign him onto the team for the next ten years. If you're a foreign national, you have to be 30 to play on the Spurs team.

You are not going to select a great late first/second round pick every year. Unless Ms Cleo is working with the spurs, Tony and Manu type impact won't be an annual thing.

I think Ian will be a good player. He just needs more chances to showcase his talent. Potential can only get you so far. If he doesn't impress after the summer league, I doubt he will be taking more of the Spurs' time.

[koopa]

he's 19 if he doesn't impress he still has time to grow, it seems like y'all are expecting david robinson out of this kid.

[ducks]

spurs before said that he might be 2-3 years away
he does not have to look great this summer league
one more year would polish him alot

[johngateswhiteley]

...what is so wrong with his stats tonight....its game 1 people.

[Mr. Body]

It's early to ask... but does anybody feel Vaughn is really the 2nd B/U with CJ Watson still slotted as the 3rd and it's "Soyanara Beno"?

[ducks]

watson keeps it up
beno is gone

[Kori Ellis]

It's early to ask... but does anybody feel Vaughn is really the 2nd B/U with CJ Watson still slotted as the 3rd and it's "Soyanara Beno"?

No. Vaughn is not good enough to be the main backup.

[Mr. Body]

No. Vaughn is not good enough to be the main backup.

He backed up Kidd last year.

[ducks]

watson I like
he can score and play d and pass

not sure about the d because the game was not on tv
but reports are he can
IF spurs brought in watson beno would lose all his confidence and be worthless

[Spurologist]

My Back-up PG depth chart

1. Vaughn
2. CJ Watson

Beno should be dealt away. He hasn't recovered since Finals 05. Vanx of all people was taking his minutes in the playoffs. Your value sucks big time when simply dribbling for a PG becomes a factor. Management has lost confidence in him and I think he will be dealt to one of the "several teams interested." For a second rounder/cash/decent role players/package deal.....

[Mr. Body]

I'd take Vaughn as backup and suck it up for a year. As one of the few guys on the roster with any value, Beno needs to be used to package in a trade.

[Solid D]

Vaughn is a pretty nice addition. He's probably the best defensive PG the Spurs have had to back up TP since AD if you think about it.

Vaughn was used in two ways by NJ. He spotted Kidd, but he was also used a lot when they went small alongside Kidd. Vaughn defended well, thus he was used to pressure either guard. His role wasn't to score but to be an extra ball-handler and to D-up. For instance, Vaughn was good enough to defend Fred Jones, a very strong player.

The problem he will face with the Spurs is when the ball swings back to him late in the shot clock and he has to shoot. That's a case where Beno provides better results.

[Mr. Body]

Beno is the better overall option, but if they can package him with Barry or whomever to get a good young SF, you have to do it. He's expendable. Getting rid of him for a draft pick wouldn't be the way to go.

[Solid D]

If Beno isn't traded, he is TP's primary backup...agreed. He is a great passer, particularly up the court in transition and in feeding the post. Offensively he is very gifted.

If the Spurs want to get a stop or pressure full court, or are having trouble under pressure themselves, Vaughn will be a nice option.

[Mr. Body]

I'm looking forward to what the team can cook up here to get a young SF. Or maybe their solution is Rich Melzer and we go with what we've got?

[T Park]

:lol @ everyone saying

Man maybe this Melzer guy might have something.


:lol


Watch Melzer will become a decent player and then everyone will be back on the FO bandwagon again.

[IcemanCometh]

the only guys i would want from this team are donta smith and mahimananamimimi

[MajorMike]

I don't know why they even waste time with Melvin. Guy will never make it in the NBA. Might as well give his minutes and shot attempts to someone with an NBA transferable game.

How many summers did it take for Devin to make it?

[JGrice02]

I think these links are ok. They're taken from yahoo sports. I'm going to go check getty images for more.

(Karaulov)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=8ac0d5acef344f9cad5227c0791f2acf.maveri cks_basketball_slcc115&prov=ap


Mahinmi

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=getty-71432143kh009_rocky_mountai_8_38_42_pm&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=2286a1a4a6344833af9d99c9bd5912cb.maveri cks__basketball_slcc112&prov=ap

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?slug=b859ade45b8e4701a32dd24cbc14b25b.spurs_ basketball_slcc114&prov=ap


If you ask me, Mahinmi looks a lot bigger than Tayshaun Prince. The guy can still put on some weight but he is no twig. I'd like to see him at 10-15 more pounds and that's it.

[Solid D]

Does anyone remember the leading rebounder and one of the leading scorers in the RMR last year? He made the All-RMR team? The long SF, 6'10" 215 lb. Britton Johnsen? Lots of people were singing his praises.

He ended up playing for 2 different teams in Europe (Spain and Greece) last year. Sometimes there are lots of factors we don't see.

[Mr. Body]

I remember Johnsen. Our summer league team last year was pretty pitiful, but he had some games where he hit tons of shots, and true to form we got briefly excited about him coming over.

[Quadzilla99]

If you ask me, Mahinmi looks a lot bigger than Tayshaun Prince. The guy can still put on some weight but he is no twig. I'd like to see him at 10-15 more pounds and that's it.Every player is different. KG is skinny as a rail and still great but in general players need to be around a certain weight for their height and position. He could be thin and still be effective though-the best center I ever saw, Hakeem Olajuwon, (gotta admit it much as I hate it) was never a big muscled up bruiser.

[Manu20]

Here is a nice recap of yesterdays games.Link (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1413)

[Quadzilla99]

Here is a nice recap of yesterdays games.Link (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1413)
Great link :tu thanks.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Somebody start a thread for tonight's game against Seattle.

[ShoogarBear]

Shit, you're going to tell me that Noel has added a consistent 3-point game now? :pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

Shit, you're going to tell me that Noel has added a consistent 3-point game now? :pctoss

The Sonics had him add it to his game. He taped off the NBA 3-point line at the Fresno St gym for the last two summers and worked on it.

He hit 3-for-4 from 3 yesterday and a 20footer. Today he missed both 3's but hit a 20 foot.

So yes, he has some perimeter game. They are making him into a defensive minded guy who can bang down low, step out and hit a jumper, and play both forward spots.

Sounds familiar to a Spurs need. :(

[Doc Jerome]

Wow. :fro

[ChumpDumper]

There are some highlights of this game NBA.com if you can't wait.

Go to the NBAtv broadband frame on the front page and choose the game highlights tab.