Sonics vs Spurs RMR Game 2

[Kori Ellis]

Here's some updates (they are Sonics related mostly). I'll get the Spurs info in a couple minutes.

Sonics team is struggling greatly, trailing 13 to 4. Patch just stripped Mahimni and got a breakaway on which he was fouled. Mahimni then goaltended the shot away much to the annoyance of the Sonics who were called for the same goaltending call just a moment ago

Another steal by patch leads to Andre Emmet layup. 13-8 spurs.

Brown gets it going with an impressive baseline cut. He juked his man and used the rim as a sheild before contorting his body for a nice layin 10-10 Spurs with 5:02 left Mahimni on the line hits both free throws after a foul

Morliende much more aggressive than last night. First the two steals now a driving take for a bucket. Today the guards are playing better while Sene stunk and Felix has been quiet


Another really tightly (dare I say poorly) called game. Felix and Patch goe in and Burell and Halperin replace them.

15 14 Spurs with 3:29 left in the first. Reiner puts in a serious effort and husle. It’s too bad he lacks the atheletic ability of these guys.

I don’t have stats but I’d say that Andre Emett is the scoring leader. Soncis 16 Spurs 15 with 2:36 left in the first

[Kori Ellis]

CJ Watson, a rookie out of Tenessee just showed why Halperin will likely struggle in the NBA. On a drive he drove right into Yotam and simply had too much speed for Halperin to deal with. Unable to move laterally with much quickness Halperin was unable to do anything but foul. On the next play Halperin made a nice cut into the lane but missed both free throws. Next Dante Smith juked, cut, and blew right by Halperin for a dunk. Halperin comes back and hits a jumper and then steals the ball. It’s getting a bit Mano-Y-Mano with Halperin demonstrating the strengths and weakneses of his game in one little run of play

End of one Seattle 18, San Antonio 19. I’ll be back in approximately 20 minutes with first quarter stats and an update.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Mahinmi needs to up his rep in this game to cover the last game.

[ChumpDumper]

If they ever have the room, Seattle would be an excellent place for Emmett to land. He needs an uptempo game to play to his strengths but also a good teacher to pick up the other aspects he's lacking.

[Mr. Body]

Mahinmi needs to up his rep in this game to cover the last game.
He did fine last game. I'd say he's doing better than expected, in fact.

[ChumpDumper]

Ian is doing about what should be expected IMO.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

My bad. I thought that he was supposed to score way more, no offense to Ian.

[Mr. Body]

elliott - in my opinion, being active, showing energy, and being involved in plays would be a good sign for him. I don't think he's much of a scorer yet. So far he's done what most of us wanted, I think -- making good plays, looking like a smart player. He's too light to be ready for this level yet.

[Kori Ellis]

Today Mahinmi is going against Sene (Sonics draft pick with the biggest wingspan in the league), so far neither one of them have done much against each other.

I'll have halftime stats on both teams very soon.

--Kori

[Bruno]

I'm happy that patch is doing well. This guy has the level to play in nba but he has had tons of injuries.

[Slinkyman]

Who's Patch?

[Kori Ellis]

Who's Patch?

Patch Morlende is on the Sonics.


Here's Draft Express comments on Mahinmi from yesterday.

Mahinmi is a very athletic and mobile big man. He had a good game overall, hustling on defense and fighting for rebounds. He struggled with the superior strength of Pavel Podkolzin and DJ Mbenga all night long and was in foul trouble most the night. He showed a couple of nice quick spinning post moves across the paint and drew fouls. While a raw player, his footwork and understanding of positioning on the floor are good. Ian desperately needs 20 pounds of muscle to compete down low.

[Bruno]

Who's Patch?

Paccelis Morlende, a french player that was drafted by Seattle in 2003.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm happy that patch is doing well. This guy has the level to play in nba but he has had tons of injuries.

Yesterday he (and the rest of the Sonics guards) were horrible, so today the team is trying to get them going.

[Kori Ellis]

Sonics 33 Spurs 38 Halftime

Waiting on stats.

[Kori Ellis]

Sene has 8 points against Mahinmi. Mostly bodying him up in the post.

(Still waiting on stats).

[Kori Ellis]

50 to 40 spurs with 3:46 LEFT IN THE THIRD.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs are doing something right at least. Is it good coaching? I'm feeling their point guards are prety good, too.

[Bruno]

Day 1 : Podkolzin
Day 2 : Sene
Mahinmi play against big centers while he has a PF body (for the moment), it should be difficult for him.

[Kori Ellis]

Halftime:

Mahinmi 10pts 4 reb 1 TO no blocks or fouls
Rich Melzer leading scorer 13pts 5 reb 1 BS in 13 minutes
Jamar Smith 6 pts 6 Reb in 12 minutes
Donta Smith 4 pts 1 reb.
Melvin Saunders 2pts 4 assists 0 TO
Taquan Dean 0 for 3 shooting 4 TO's

[Kori Ellis]

Those are the halftime stats, but it's start of the 4th now.

[ducks]

GO Mahinmi

[ducks]

I would say Mahinmi is doing quite good for his second usa game

[ducks]

melzer seems like a keeper

[Mr. Body]

10 for Mahinmi? Sweet.

I freely admit I was wrong about Melzer. He looks to be handling SL play well. He and Jamar Smith are the stand-outs.

Any tales from CJ Watson? Is he dishing like last game?

[Slinkyman]

Kori, do you know how Ian's getting most of his points? is it off tip ins or does he have an offensive game?

[bigdog]

yeah Melzer and J. Smith seem to being doing pretty good. and good job for Mahinmi. He might not be ready for the league yet, but hes showing alot of progress. I wouldnt mind seeing Melzer or Smith on the team this year

[Russ]

Elson is 30 years old and on a two year deal.

Could the plan be -- if the Knicks match Butler (21 yo), then sign Mahinmi (19 yo) this year?

[Kori Ellis]

Kori, do you know how Ian's getting most of his points? is it off tip ins or does he have an offensive game?

I don't know any details. When the game is over, I'll talk to someone on the phone and get all the scoop.

[Mr. Body]

Elson is 30 years old and on a two year deal.

Could the plan be -- if the Knicks match Butler (21 yo), then sign Mahinmi (19 yo) this year?

There's probably not enough roster spaces left, if Butler isn't matched.

[Kori Ellis]

Spurs - end of 3
Melzer 13pts on 5 for 12 with 5 reb and 1 bs
Mahinmi 13ps 6 reb 1to 1 bs
melvin 11pts 5 assists 4 reb

Sonics
Noel in foul trouble and not getting the ball :( 3pts 4rbs
Sene 8pts, 1bs, 2pf, 1 reb on 4 for 6 shooting
Brown 2 for 9 with 7pts 3pf, 1assist, 2 to
Emmet 5 for 8 10 pts

[Kori Ellis]

Mahinmi and Sene just blocked each other on subsequent possessions.

[Mr. Body]

Are they trash talking in french?

LE CONTRE, TOI!!

[Bruno]

Noel in foul trouble and not getting the ball :( 3pts 4rbs


It's your fault, you told him to be focused on rebounding and not on scoring. :)

[Kori Ellis]

Regarding Mahinmi's scoring...

He runs the floor really well and gets in the right position. Then the guards are doing a great job getting him the ball.

[ducks]

tp can set him up!

[ducks]

he speaks french to

[Kori Ellis]

It's your fault, you told him to be focused on rebounding and not on scoring. :)

:lol That's true. I didn't mean don't score though. :lol

Actually I just think he's in a bad rhythm as they are trying to get their guards on track. Oh well, he is already close to being guaranteed for the season anyway. One game isn't going to hurt or help him in summer league.

[Kori Ellis]

With one minute left Seattle leads 67 to 66

[ducks]

Crunch Time

[Kori Ellis]

Spurs (don't know who) hit a 3 with 30 sec left to go up 2.

[ducks]

watch them give it to sanders

[ducks]

Spurs (don't know who) hit a 3 with 30 sec left to go up 2.
ian











:angel

[Mr. Body]

Ian's arms are so long it's really like an 8' shot to him.

[Buddy Holly]

Rich.

[strangeweather]

melzer seems like a keeper
Dont forget the most important rule of summer league: if you suck in summer league, you're not ready for the NBA. But just because you look good in summer league doesn't mean you have an NBA game.

[ducks]

yes I know
if he plays well here he will be in trainging camp...........................................

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs took a 4 point lead with 10 seconds left and Andre Emmett ht a quick three to bring the score to 70-71.

Halperin misses at the buzzers. SA 73 SEA 70

---

It will be a while before I get final stats. The guy has to go do interviews.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure it's too early to get really high on Munch, but we are pretty sure he'll be in training camp. At worst I think he'll have enough money to stay in Albuquerque and be available for a call up.

[ducks]

did sonics call a timeout

[Kori Ellis]

Dont forget the most important rule of summer league: if you suck in summer league, you're not ready for the NBA. But just because you look good in summer league doesn't mean you have an NBA game.

Actually stats in summer league pretty much mean nothing either way. I've seen guys get horrible stats in summer league and make a roster in fall. And seen guys dominate summer league and not.

The only way to get any indicator is to watch the games and really know the quality of the matchups.

[strangeweather]

yes I know
if he plays well here he will be in trainging camp...........................................
He definitely looks like a keeper to training camp so far. But the last thing we need is for people to start penciling him in as our long 3 at this point. :spin

[ducks]

thanks kori

[ChumpDumper]

Good to read Emmett seems to be contributing. The Mavs didn't give him much PT (understandably so, but still had to be frustrating).

[ducks]

did pop get there yet?
I know you said sam and rc are there.................

[strangeweather]

Actually stats in summer league pretty much mean nothing either way. I've seen guys get horrible stats in summer league and make a roster in fall. And seen guys dominate summer league and not.

The only way to get any indicator is to watch the games and really know the quality of the matchups.
Interesting. I guess I hadn't heard many cases of guys being horrible in summer league and then going on to get minutes in the NBA that year.

[Mr. Body]

LeBron apparently wasn't great in SLs.

[Bruno]

Interesting. I guess I hadn't heard many cases of guys being horrible in summer league and then going on to get minutes in the NBA that year.

Petro was horrible in SL last summer.

[ducks]

LeBron apparently wasn't great in SLs.
not compared to him being compared to mj at that time

[Leetonidas]

I wanna see the box score. Hopefully it shouldn't take too long.

[picnroll]

Hopefully you can get Noel's take on Ian, Melcher and others Kori.

[Kori Ellis]

Some relevant stats (unofficial)

Andre Brown 26 min 2-5 FG 8r 3f 4p
Melzer 25 min 6-14FG 3-73FG 5r 15p
Mahinmi 30min 4-5FG 5-7ft 7rb 2b 13p
TDean 23min 2-8FG 4rb 5as 4fl 7to 10p
MSanders 30min 7-10 7as 15p
JSmith 4-9FG 8rb 8 pt

[ChumpDumper]

F5

[Phenomanul]

F5

tornado????

[ChumpDumper]

refresh

[Kori Ellis]

Hopefully you can get Noel's take on Ian, Melcher and others Kori.

Noel will call me as soon as he's done in the locker room.

My friend Brian says that Mahinmi looked really good, he has nice broad shoulders but such a small base that he's going to have trouble holding his position in the NBA. He says that he needs to gain about 20 pounds.

[Mr. Body]

Kudos to Mahinmi, who's playing well.

Sanders looks ready to settle on someone's bench.

[Mr. Body]

Noel will call me as soon as he's done in the locker room.

My friend Brian says that Mahinmi looked really good, he has nice broad shoulders but such a small base that he's going to have trouble holding his position in the NBA. He says that he needs to gain about 20 pounds.

Small base as in skinny hips? Is this a fixable problem?

[Kori Ellis]

Noel only had 3pts, 5rbs, 1bl. They ran almost everything to Emmett. He shot 10-15 from the field for 21 pts. Sene had 23min, 4-7FG, 2bl, 5rb, 8pts.

Brian said Mahinmi and Sene had more blocks than were accounted for on the stat sheets. He said they each had 2 just in the 4th quarter.

[Kori Ellis]

Small base as in skinny hips? Is this a fixable problem?

As in very skinny legs I believe. I'll ask more later.

[Solid D]

Small base as in skinny hips? Is this a fixable problem?

It wasn't for David Robinson. :smokin

[Phenomanul]

refresh


I see... carry on. :fro

[Phenomanul]

It wasn't for David Robinson. :smokin


But David was CUT in the upstairs department...

[Mr. Body]

The small base thing is weird, but yeah, DRob had like 32-inch hips. :wow

[Solid D]

As in very skinny legs I believe. I'll ask more later.

Normally a small base means someone who is smaller in the trunk and rear-end. Jackie Butler has skinny legs, for instance, but he's got the booty to back people down and dislodge defenders leaning on them.

[Kori Ellis]

Normally a small base means someone who is smaller in the trunk and rear-end. Jackie Butler has skinny legs, for instance, but he's got the booty to back people down and dislodge defenders leaning on them.

Yeah but he mentioned skinny legs as well as small base.

Someone else mentioned small base to me yesterday regarding Mahinmi. So I'm guessing he has skinny legs and little ass. :)

[Phenomanul]

Yeah but he mentioned skinny legs as well as small base.

Someone else mentioned small base to me yesterday regarding Mahinmi. So I'm guessing he has skinny legs and little ass. :)

Don't know why but now it sounds comical.... :lol

[Russ]

My friend Brian says that Mahinmi looked really good, he has nice broad shoulders but such a small base that he's going to have trouble holding his position in the NBA. He says that he needs to gain about 20 pounds.

Small base? That's the old NBA. Things like "holding postion" under the basket are going to be less important in the future.

I think the Spurs FO may be way ahead of us -- if it's not Butler, it could be Mahinmi this year.

Butler or Mahinmi. Heck, that's probably why Javtokas got left at the altar at the last minute.

[Mr. Body]

I can't believe we're discussing some French dude's ass.

Anyway, Garnett has a 'small base,' too. Getting stronger will help Mahinmi. He'll fill out. Getting Shaq out of the league and possibly getting beefcakes Butler on the team will help.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.nba.com/media/jazz/06game4.pdf

[ducks]

I like the report I here
everyone has said ian needs to gain weight

[dimsah]

13 pts 8 rbs 2 bl in 30 minutes.
I'll take it!

Jamar Smith had another decent game it seems.

Watson another 5+ assists game as well.

[ducks]

ian was 4-5 wow

[ducks]

13 pts 8 rbs 2 bl in 30 minutes.
I'll take it!

Jamar Smith had another decent game it seems.

kori's friend says he had more blocks then what they counted to :smokin

[Russ]

I like the report I here
everyone has said ian needs to gain weight
He was the leading rebounder in the game, went 4-5 from the field (presumably from in close) and scored 13 points -- why is everyone treating him like Karen Carpenter?

Anyway, I think he's only just begun. Bring him over now.

[dimsah]

kori's friend says he had more blocks then what they counted to :smokin
13 pts 8 rbs 42 blocks
I'll take it!

:drunk

[ducks]

watson had 5 assist
beno might need to pack his bags

[dimsah]

What's the word on Watson's D?

[picnroll]

Did he alter a lot of shots as well?

[ducks]

I am for bringing him over now
maybe by allstar break he will beef up more
he has looked like he put weight on already

[ChumpDumper]

Some more pictures on yahoo up top, though I think they're from yesterday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/photos

Watson, Dean and Jamar.

[Mr. Body]

Why isn't half the team playing? Any reason?

[ChumpDumper]

They suck.

[ducks]

they take turns so they can evaluate the players better
let them get a feel and let them play decent minutes so they can get a better look at them

[Solid D]

He was the leading rebounder in the game, went 4-5 from the field (presumably from in close) and scored 13 points -- why is everyone treating him like Karen Carpenter?

Anyway, I think he's only just begun. Bring him over now.

:lol @ Russ

Mahinmi split his rebounds 4 and 4. That's useful.

[Kori Ellis]

I talked to Noel. He didn't have any legs today and his shot wasn't on, so he defered to the guards instead. Their point guards are unable to get the ball into the post players downlow either. So that doesn't help.

He said that Mahinmi looked good. Runs the floor extremely well. He said he matched up well with Sene. He said he's very active.

[Kori Ellis]

Side note: Sene was really sick. Has the flu and is going to doctor now. He might not play in their next game.

[timvp]

I expected Mahinmi to average like 5 points and 4 rebounds, so him going for 13 and 8 is better than I imagined. Maybe he started to figure things out after that first game. That'd be nice.

:smokin

That said, hopefully Butler is with the Spurs next year and Mahinmi can stay another year in France.

[yavozerb]

If I remember right, D-rob wasnt the thickest person in the world and he did alright!!Ian can counter with strong legs and upperbody strength..

[ducks]

well I would rather they match elson
then butler could start then ian off the bench

[timvp]

To put things in perspective, here are Petro's stats from last year's RMR.

11.8 Minutes Per Game
2.3 Points
1.3 Rebounds
.67 Block
2.3 Turnovers
5.2 Fouls

So Mahinmi is already way ahead of schedule.

:smokin

[Russ]

Side note: Sene was really sick.

He had a rapidly spreading disease -- Mahinmi-itis.

[boutons_]

How many saw this young monster in the FIBA U18 Men's Tourney at St Mary's U?

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1167236

If he keeps progressing, probably a top 5 draft pick in a couple years. ie, the Duncan Spurs won't get a whiff of him.

[Kori Ellis]

He had a rapidly spreading disease -- Mahinmi-itis.

:)

He was actually really sick. They pulled him early in the first for dizziness, but he came back after that.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Mahinmi 13ps 6 reb 1to 1 bs

Cue the Spurstalk lovefest and beginning of the mythification of Ian Mahinmi....

[David@SLCC]

Kori, was Brian able to get the wi-fi working? I spoke with him and tried to help him set it up, but he had to run and I didn't know whether it worked or not.

[Kori Ellis]

Yes, it seemed to work. He was blogging on his site.

Thanks a lot for your help.

[spurschick]

How many saw this young monster in the FIBA U18 Men's Tourney at St Mary's U?

I saw him. He definitely looks like he has potential.

[Doc Jerome]

Wow. :fro

[Spurologist]

So word is Ian impressed??

Why doesn't nba.com have highlights. :pctoss :pctoss

[Spurs9]

I hope we can get him, if the knicks and nuggets signing doesnt work out.

[ChumpDumper]

Noel!

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/e5/full.getty-71407162kh004_rocky_mountai_8_34_13_pm.jpg

[Slinkyman]

Noel!

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/e5/full.getty-71407162kh004_rocky_mountai_8_34_13_pm.jpg

uh, is he wearing pumps?

[ChumpDumper]

Look at Mike Bud -- he's shocked that Noel is taking a three.

[Kori Ellis]

That's a good picture of Noel. I'll save it for him.

[Kori Ellis]

uh, is he wearing pumps?

Yeah he thinks they are comfortable.

[ChumpDumper]

SALT LAKE CITY (July 15, 2006) – In game one of day two at Salt Lake Community College, the San Antonio Spurs (1-0) got off to a blistering start scoring the game’s first eight points before forcing the Seattle Sonics (0-1) into calling an early timeout.

Thanks to strong defense, the Sonics were able to close the early gap to two points at 14-12 halfway through the first quarter. Andre Emmett kept the Sonics in the game from there by scoring 6 points in the first quarter, but Rich Melzer helped the Spurs hold on to the lead 8 points in the first. Donta Smith wowed the crowd with a quick crossover which led to a slam dunk late in the first quarter. Mouhamed Sene played limited time in the first quarter after having a huge start in game one yesterday.

Sene, did reintroduce himself to the crowd and the league when he swatted a Spurs’ shot out of bounds with authority late in the first half and then made an easy lay up the next trip down the floor.

A late three-pointer for the Spurs gave San Antonio the halftime lead at 36-33 in a very defensively minded first half for both teams.

In the second half, the Spurs got off to another quick start scoring the half’s first 5 points. Andre Brown threw down a serious dunk in the face of the Seattle big men to lengthen the San Antonio lead to seven points. More dominance down low led to a Seattle timeout with 5:52 left in the third quarter with the Spurs up 10. From there the teams traded baskets for the rest of the third quarter until the Sonics made a run to end the quarter to cut the Spurs lead to just 3 points.

Andre Emmett tied the game for the Sonics just over a minute into the fourth quarter with a nice up-and-under move around the Spurs interior. Keith Langford gave the Sonics their first lead of the second half with a transition lay up with 6:25 left in the game.

The defensive struggle continued throughout the fourth quarter as both teams tired in the high altitude of Salt Lake City. As the Spurs tried to pull away down the stretch Emmett kept his team in the game with a key offensive put back and a steal which led to a transition lay up.

Taquan Dean answered for San Antonio with a timely three-pointer with 30 seconds left in the game to give the Spurs a two point lead. Dean’s clutch shot was what ended it as the Sonics couldn’t convert on the next possession and then had to foul twice to get into the penalty. Dean then, fittingly, put the game away by promptly making both free throws putting the Spurs up four points.

Emmett tried to keep his team in the game as he nailed a three with two seconds left to pull Seattle to within 1 point but they had to foul Dean again who went to the line and made both free throws. The Yotam Halperin half court shot fell short by inches and the Spurs got the 73-70 victory.

Four Spurs ended the game in double digits: Melzer, Mahinmi, Dean, and Melvin Saunders.

Emmett ended as the game’s high scorer with 21 points in the losing effort.

http://www.nba.com/jazz/Revue/06game4.html

[clubalien]

ian is only 19 and he will get better he is only playing SL players now but it shows how he will soon dominate the NBA

anyone find it kind of funny that in noels pic there he is black basketball player and like every person in the audience is WHITE!

[Mr. Body]

anyone find it kind of funny that in noels pic there he is black basketball player and like every person in the audience is WHITE!

It is Colorado, isn't it? That kind of makes sense.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

hey kori, the mahinmi right now, looks like a young skinny version of d12 in highschool, now if he heads to the gym motivated like d12 and bulk up to that sort of physic = BEAST

[SequNets]

Ian put up that shit on a back 2 back night. duncan hasn't played like that his whole career on a back to back.

[Solid D]

It is Colorado, isn't it? That kind of makes sense.

SALT LAKE CITY (July 15, 2006) – In game one of day two at Salt Lake Community College, the San Antonio Spurs (1-0) got off to a blistering start scoring the game’s first eight points before forcing the Seattle Sonics (0-1) into calling an early timeout.

[Mr. Body]

I thought it was Rocky Mountain Review. I see I assumed it was Colorado.

Ok, Utah. Even fewer black people.

[T Park]

Fuck Europe.

Play the kid here.

[TDMVPDPOY]

is there an updated profile on mahinmi??

is he still 6'10 230pounds?

dwight howard 6'11 250pounds, when he was drafted, now is 265pounds.

if mahinmi bulks anywhere to the physique of d12, :D twin towers

[Bruno]

Cue the Spurstalk lovefest and beginning of the mythification of Ian Mahinmi....

Quite agree with that.
I haven't watch the game but Mahinmi played against Saer Sene who was ill too.
Even is Sene is few month older than Mahinmi, he is rawer : in Europe Mahinmi is a way better player than Sene (Mahinmi has better stats in a better league).
It's a good thing than Mahinmi is doing well but it's not a big deal.

[MI21]

Melzer is doing good? What the fuck?

Must of been seriously half assing it over here. I want him to succeed he's a cool guy an was cool to talk to very friendly, but didn't seem like a good player at all :lol

Hope he makes it!

(Promising for Ian to. I like the sound of him)

[T Park]

It's a good thing than Mahinmi is doing well but it's not a big deal.


I don't see anyone making it a big deal.

[Bruno]

I don't see anyone making it a big deal.



Fuck Europe.

Play the kid here.

Reports say that Mahinmi need to gain something like 20lbs before coming in nba. I'm quite sure that one more year in europe is the best thing to do.

[Bruno]

RMR day 2 :
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1414

[whottt]

Small base as in skinny hips? Is this a fixable problem?
http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nba/2003/0615/photo/a_robinson_il.jpg

[whottt]

Cue the Spurstalk lovefest and beginning of the mythification of Ian Mahinmi....


We need something to replace your mythification of Nazr into the lovechild of Wilt and Hakeem.

10 and 10 per game...L O L.

[whottt]

Something no one has mentioned(at least that I have seen)...

Both games Mahnimi was just about the best in the game at getting to the FT line.....

That's a telling sign about the level he is playing at offensively(either because of skill or athleticism) compared to the rest of the guys.


I'd like to point out...that was also the Admiral's best offensive skill.

[spursmode]

If you want somebody to gain weight move them to San Antonio. Sit his ass on the end of the bench with a couple dozen tacos and a twelve pack of corona each game. That will be his double double each game. That will do the trick.

[Obstructed_View]

The kid will learn more practicing against Duncan than he will playing against scrubs someplace else.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

We need something to replace your mythification of Nazr into the lovechild of Wilt and Hakeem.

10 and 10 per game...L O L.

LOL... we'll see what happens up in Detroit this year.


BTW, I really don't like the idea of Barea playing with Dallas. If the Spurs pick up Jacque Vaughn and the Mavs counter by signing Barea, they've widened the gap there on us.

[whottt]

If you want somebody to gain weight move them to San Antonio. Sit his ass on the end of the bench with a couple dozen tacos and a twelve pack of corona each game. That will be his double double each game. That will do the trick.


Excellent point...

There's no place better in the entire world to gain 20lbs, than San Antonio.


Just have him spend two weekends at the RiverWalk...and it'll be done.

You can supplement this by having him eat at Malik's Philly Phamous every day for lunch during this period.

[T Park]

not the right kind of weight, as Jackie Butler would attest to :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I just want Ian here to be practicing every day against Duncan. Dude will get much better much faster having to D up Duncan every day than he will over in Europe. Plus, you've got the added benefit of having Horry around to teach him some veteran tricks of the trade and learn the Spurs system.

Bring him in, let him practice every day with the Spurs, and send him up to Austin every night to play in the NBDL games. He'll come in much more ready to help this squad than he would staying in Europe for another year or two and then coming over and having to spend another year or two adjusting to everything - the speed of the NBA, physicality of the game, life in America, life in SA, his teammates, the Spurs system, etc.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

not the right kind of weight, as Jackie Butler would attest to :lol

You mean Quadzilla :lol

[ShoogarBear]

If you want somebody to gain weight move them to San Antonio. Sit his ass on the end of the bench with a couple dozen tacos and a twelve pack of corona each game. That will be his double double each game. That will do the trick.
:lmao

Surprised nobody pointed came up with the Fat Antonio solution before.

[T Park]

I just want Ian here to be practicing every day against Duncan. Dude will get much better much faster having to D up Duncan every day than he will over in Europe. Plus, you've got the added benefit of having Horry around to teach him some veteran tricks of the trade and learn the Spurs system.

Bring him in, let him practice every day with the Spurs, and send him up to Austin every night to play in the NBDL games. He'll come in much more ready to help this squad than he would staying in Europe for another year or two and then coming over and having to spend another year or two adjusting to everything - the speed of the NBA, physicality of the game, life in America, life in SA, his teammates, the Spurs system, etc.

exactly right.

Fuck Pau Pao or whoever.

He would learn more in 5 practices with Duncan, Horry, and the coaching staff, than france in 3 years.

Keep Ian over here.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I agree with AHF, if you want the kid to fly, throw him over the next, want him to run, walk him over the fires.

BTW, how is it possible so many people think Ian is going to dominate? Has timvp confirmed this speculation?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I would say Mahinmi is doing quite good for his second usa game

I would say it seems like he's getting owned by bigger more physical post players.

[spursmode]

I have a question. His contract is guaranteed because he is a first round pick. How long do the spurs have to bring him over and it begins? I know that everyone else that has drafted from overseas has been a 2nd round pick and nothing has to be guaranteed with them.

[T Park]

Reports say that Mahinmi need to gain something like 20lbs before coming in nba. I'm quite sure that one more year in europe is the best thing to do.

THe Spurs have one of the best practice facilities in the world, and have a hall of famer to practice agains.

Europe aint shit compared to that.


Europe is NOT the best thing to do.

Time to stop screwing around and get used to america, and the way things go on over here.


Europe aint gonna do nothing.

[velik_m]

You can't get good by just practicing.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You can't get good by just practicing.

Practice?

We're talking about PRACTICE?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

You can't get good by just practicing.
So you get good by not practicing?

[clubalien]

I am NOT in favor of ya'll forcing ian to take performance enhacing durgs just to get him to bulk up.

He is only 19, he will get better and better and no need to turn him from being more athletic like old kemp and turn him into as big and slow as the current kemp

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I am NOT in favor of ya'll forcing ian to take performance enhacing durgs just to get him to bulk up.

He is only 19, he will get better and better and no need to turn him from being more athletic like old kemp and turn him into as big and slow as the current kemp
Let's get him a Bowflex for Christmas.

[Bruno]

THe Spurs have one of the best practice facilities in the world, and have a hall of famer to practice agains.


And Spurs practices everyday ?

With 82 games in 6 months, teams practice very few and Spurs are known for practising very few.

Ian will be way better in europe next year :
- With a coach who knows Spurs very well : his next year coach is an assistant coach for spurs during summer leagues.
- Practising a lot : european teams practices more than nba team and his next year coach is known for practising a lot.
- Playing the best competition outside the nba against borderline nba players.
- Following Spurs instructions : Ian has books from Spurs with body stengh execises to do.

BTW, Spurs FO think the same thing. For them, you can't improve if you don't play a competition.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LOL velik you chode

He just needs to drink mad weight gain shakes and lift weights 1 hour in the morning 1 hour at night. He'll gain mad muscle to that frame...but even before that, I agree with keeping him here. Austin Toros or Euro, like pick your poison, but if he's here in the states he can work against the spurs players, like him and Duncan could have 1 on 1 practice sessions like robinson used to do with tim. They can't effectively mold him into a player they want if he's half a world away.

[Quadzilla99]

You mean Quadzilla :lol
Or John Hollinger, Timvp, or any of the other many people who said he is 10-20 lbs overweight. Also for the millionth time I like him never said I didn't.

[ChumpDumper]

I have a question. His contract is guaranteed because he is a first round pick. How long do the spurs have to bring him over and it begins? I know that everyone else that has drafted from overseas has been a 2nd round pick and nothing has to be guaranteed with them.There is no limit on the rights SA owns on Ian as long as he keeps playing ball overseas.

When he does sign, his contract will be determined by the salary scale of the year in which he was drafted.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Or John Hollinger, Timvp, or any of the other many people who said he is 10-20 lbs overweight. Also for the millionth time I like him never said I didn't.

Yeah, and it's impossible to lose 10 pounds in that month of pre-season ball and training camp that the Spurs have every year :rolleyes

[ducks]

butler could already be on a diet
he wants out of new york
if teams are saying he needs to lose 10 pounds
I bet he is trying to get them off NOW

[Quadzilla99]

Yeah, and it's impossible to lose 10 pounds in that month of pre-season ball and training camp that the Spurs have every year :rolleyes
I don't want to argue. I just said it was a concern like I always say Mahinmi needs to add 10 lbs when I talk about him or that I hope Parker can gets a more consistent jumper. For whatever reason nobody goes off when I or other people say those other 2 but whatever. I like Butler and hope to god NY doesn't match.