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ducks
07-16-2006, 06:51 PM
if you could only have one in a spur uniform who would it be?
who has the most upside?

GrandeDavid
07-16-2006, 06:56 PM
Ian.

exstatic
07-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Ever? or just this year... If it's this year, then Butler.

Brutalis
07-16-2006, 07:01 PM
Butler.

ducks
07-16-2006, 07:01 PM
who has the most upside
who would you rather have this year

exstatic
07-16-2006, 07:04 PM
who has the most upside
who would you rather have this year
Ian, due to this athleticism.

Butler. He has an NBA ready body. He won't be pushed around, even if his game isn't mature. Ian would, at 230.

RC's Boss
07-16-2006, 07:31 PM
Butler is butter for me this year or any year! He's no saviour but he can play around the basket when teams slow down during the playoffs. If I were a phoenix fan I'd take Ian, but I think butler is better

Obstructed_View
07-16-2006, 07:39 PM
I'd like to see both of them in a Spurs uniform for the next fifteen years.

phyzik
07-16-2006, 07:45 PM
For just this year.... Butler.... He's been tested on the NBA courts against real NBA players.

If I had to pick one and it be for the rest of either of their careers (and couldnt have both) I'd go with Ian. More upside in the long run IMHO.

Taking it to the Hole
07-16-2006, 07:53 PM
You think the Spurs are still thinking of keeping Ian at PF or C if they sign Butler and Elson to their deals. They would have the position locked down. Maybe, the Spurs are thinking that Ian could play the 3 spot because his body is really more suited to that position 6' 11" 230 sounds more like a small forward to me. I know they may not count on Ian being an offensive dynamo at the position. Maybe they are thinking he could be the defensive long 3 they cannot get. It's just a thought...I know more than likely he is being groomed to play PF or C, but it would solve some problems if he covered our SF problems.

exstatic
07-16-2006, 08:28 PM
If you're waiting for Ian to develop a SF game of ballhandling and shooting, he's going to be in Europe for a LONG fucking time. He's a PF right now, but with 20 more lbs. of muscle could be a combo PF/C.

Obstructed_View
07-16-2006, 09:05 PM
Yeah, his game is close to the basket, and his body will develop to match the game. If he has really quick feet he might be able to fill in for a super big lineup at times, but I wouldn't count on any significant time at the small forward position from him.

yavozerb
07-16-2006, 09:25 PM
I wanna say it would be a mistake to bring him at this point, but with the spurs needing big bodies he should get good amount of playing time..All of you who indicates to bring him in for practice, must have forgotten that during the season the teams rarley get in full practices due to such a crazy game schedule..If ian could play at least 10 minutes per game bring him over

Quadzilla99
07-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Truthfully there is very little to go on with either player. A French league that's a step below the Euro League for one and 13 mpg in 58 career games for the other. I'd go Butler for both based solely on the level of comp.

Russ
07-16-2006, 09:59 PM
If losing Butler would mean Ian comes over, I hope the Knicks match.

furry_spurry
07-16-2006, 10:14 PM
This season--neither.

exstatic
07-16-2006, 10:19 PM
This season--neither.
What? Are you hoping Lo Wright comes and takes you away from all of this?

Doc Jerome
07-16-2006, 10:24 PM
Wow. :fro

Please_dont_ban_me
07-17-2006, 12:02 AM
At this point, I would take Butler.

Everything I've heard about Ian is less than assuring. Butler gives you quite a bit now, as well as potential you can develop...I would go with him.

Leetonidas
07-17-2006, 12:27 AM
While I think given consistent playing time and working with Tim and the staff that Ian would blossom and be great, I think at this point in time Butler is a better choice.

Mr. Body
07-17-2006, 12:41 AM
Either will blossom under the pressure of playing off the bench for a championship team. I thought Ian would need more time, but is doing fairly well in SL and the Spurs may actually need him this year.

Dre_7
07-17-2006, 12:48 AM
Butler, easily.

koopa
07-17-2006, 12:51 AM
i'd take butler cause his name is easier to say lol, ian need another year over seas, i don't think he's ready for 82 games plus the playoffs just yet. butler knows what it's like to play in the nba so he's more ready to help right now, hopefully he doesn't get matched cause i wanna see him playing next to duncan

Mr. Body
07-17-2006, 12:53 AM
Well, easily Butler now. It also means we'd get both. :clap

Beer is Good
07-17-2006, 01:57 AM
We will need them both. But we need Butler to play center and keep TD at PF. That is a necessity, and if it can happen then this coming season will look a lot better

TDMVPDPOY
07-17-2006, 04:00 AM
ians skills in butlers body

Parker 09
07-17-2006, 07:23 AM
realisticaly we can have both playing for the team this year can't we?
If both Elson and Butler sign we still have enough to bring over Ian as well don't we.
Imagine that
Tim/Horry/Bonner/Ian/Oberto
Elson/Butler/Bonner/Ian
Thats a pretty stacked frontcourt, enough to cover for tim and enough to cover for anyone who is a foul magnet, if you could get anywhere between 8-10 minutes out of Ian we'd be right

Mr. Body
07-17-2006, 08:43 AM
realisticaly we can have both playing for the team this year can't we?
If both Elson and Butler sign we still have enough to bring over Ian as well don't we.
Imagine that
Tim/Horry/Bonner/Ian/Oberto
Elson/Butler/Bonner/Ian
Thats a pretty stacked frontcourt, enough to cover for tim and enough to cover for anyone who is a foul magnet, if you could get anywhere between 8-10 minutes out of Ian we'd be right

To be honest with that line-up, it's stacked only in terms of players. There is very little talent there. At the very least there are a couple of budding talents.

I don't think there is room for Mahinmi if Butler signs.

furry_spurry
07-17-2006, 09:12 AM
What? Are you hoping Lo Wright comes and takes you away from all of this?
I think the Spurs have neither in SA next season-- Knicks match and Ian just isn't ready.