Rumor: Chris Mihm to the Spurs

[Lakerfan]

Word is the Lakers and Spurs are talking about a swap. which is no surprise the Spurs need a center and Mihm can fill the void nicely hes a solid center nothing great but hes solid. i'm thinking it's a 1 for a 2 swap we will see how this plays out.

[MoSpur]

Hell no!

[leemajors]

i guess it would depend entirely on who they want back. how much does mihm make?

[conqueso]

Word is the Lakers and Spurs are talking about a swap. which is no surprise the Spurs need a center and Mihm can fill the void nicely hes a solid center nothing great but hes solid. i'm thinking it's a 1 for a 2 swap we will see how this plays out.

This makes me want to cry.

[timvp]

Word is from where?

Only way the Spurs go after Mihm is if Elson or Butler is matched.

Mihm and Butler would actually be a pretty nice 1-2 punch.

[Solid D]

Wishful thinking on your part Lakerfan. Nice try.

[Phenomanul]

If Barry goes to LA... are you kidding me??? Under a Jackson led team Barry's worth will be magnified...

We will regret this if we end up getting Mihm and if the Lakers end up getting the missing cog Jackson's been looking for as a PG.....

[atxrocker]

:lol :lol this idea makes me laugh. i hope its true. that would be awesome for the spurs. chris mihm is a soft piece of shit, has been since he played ball at ut. oh man, that would be something.

[ChumpDumper]

:domokun :domokun :domokun

[picnroll]

Mihm is solid. Better than Elson. But agreed nothing could/would happen until Butler or Elson were matched.

[tlongII]

This would not make sense for the Lakers. It would leave them with Kwame Brown and Andrew Bynum handling the center duties. Mihm is better than either one of those guys.

[timvp]

Mihm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elson

That tells you how bad Elson is.

[ChumpDumper]

This would not make sense for the Lakers. It would leave them with Kwame Brown and Andrew Bynum handling the center duties. Mihm is better than either one of those guys.But Bynum is the next Shaq. Nevermind he got owned by a D-League scrub on Saturday.

[Solid D]

You need to step up your game Lakerfan. This is reminiscent of your last topic.


ESPN radio: Players don't want to play in SA

[Lakerfan]

this idea makes me laugh. i hope its true. that would be awesome for the spurs. chris mihm is a soft piece of shit, has been since he played ball at ut. oh man, that would be something.

He's a solid 'C' hes a hard-worker it was unfortunate he went down with a injury at the end of the season.

[Big P]

Where is the "word" coming from?

[ChumpDumper]

Lakerfan's ass.

[Lakerfan]

Where is the "word" coming from?

I talked with a RealGM Mod, who has connections with negotiation talks. no side has agreed on the trade it seems but there still talking it could lead me to believe the trade will be done though cause the Spurs want a Center and the Spurs would give what the Lakers want.

[Spurs16212]

Where is the source coming from.............

[phxspurfan]

Chris Mihm drops 40-20 on the lakers...

[Mr. Body]

Mihm would be a decent starting center. One year contract for $4.2M. 10.2 ppg/6.3rpg, 72% ft, 1.2 blocks, very foul prone.

He would be far better than Elson. I don't see them doing it unless one of E/B is matched.

Barry would be excellent in the triange. He can pick it up and his passing is exceptional.

[Lakerfan]

Mihm would be a decent starting center. One year contract for $4.2M. 10.2 ppg/6.3rpg, 72% ft, 1.2 blocks, very foul prone.

He would be far better than Elson. I don't see them doing it unless one of E/B is matched.

Barry would be excellent in the triange. He can pick it up and his passing is exceptional.

Yes, and he still has room for improvement. he can thrive playing with Duncan also there is no doubt in my mind Brent is involved on the trade talks.

[awmyplace]

The Lakers needs a good center and they need to get Kobe some more help.
Because Kobe is not the team by himself.The Lakers needs to get some role players bad.

[phxspurfan]

LOL Chris Mihm for Tony Parker. Thats hi-larious

[dknights411]

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind Mihm personally. Don't think it's gonna happen, but I wouldn't mind having him on. Nothing wrong about having a Longhorn on your team. :)

[Spurs16212]

:lol :lol :lol

I looked at realgm.com and there are various combos that would work....

Ex. Barry/Beno
Fabricio/Beno


I am positive that this would include Barry. Just maybe Chris Mihm could thrive alongside Tim Duncan. Only time will tell if this goes through or not.

[Quadzilla99]

Is there a link? Also how credible is the source?

[ChumpDumper]

Not at all and not at all.

[spursmode]

I'd take him. I think he is better than Elson, but that isn't saying much. Not to good when hoopshype doesn't have too many good things to say about him other than a "good dunker". Well I should freakin hope so. Not to big a stretch.

[Big P]

Barry for Mihm does NOT work in the trade checker

EWill for Mihm DOES work.

[Lakerfan]

Is there a link? Also how credible is the source?

Real GM mod, told me about the talks i'm not allowed to give his name out. but he said the both sides are talking thats about it but i got the sense the trade is close though cause both sides want what they really need.

[ChumpDumper]

Barry for Mihm does NOT work in the trade checker

EWill for Mihm DOES work.The Lakers would have to throw another player in for Barry unless they have a trade exception.

[YamaSama]

Some trade combinations that work:

Barry for Mihm and Vujacic

Barry and Oberto for Mihm and McKie

McKie has an expiring contract next year (summer '07); Vujacic's contract has a team option for next summer.

[ducks]

lakers need a point guard
mihm has been on the block

[ducks]

Mihm is on the block

[LakerHater]

Whatever Happend to Collins for the Spurs?

[Big P]

Are you talking about Jarron Collins? He is going to resign with the Jazz.

[LakerHater]

yeah, thats him! Damn I thought he would be a good fit and cheap

[furry_spurry]

EWill for Mihm DOES work.
And the Lakers would do this because...

Seems to me-- if the Spurs could trade Brent for Mihm plus filler, they would have done that a long time ago and never signed Elson to an offer sheet. Unless, of course, this is a back- up plan and the Spurs are now willing to part with something whom they did not want to part with to get a starting center.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

YES

I've seen him play from his UT days to his first few years in LA. The guy is on one of the most underrated players in the league. He rebounds well, he has a very nice post game...and he can hit the open jumpers.


Oh, and he can run the floor...and finish strong at the rim. YES.









Elson :( Mihm would be a nice 2nd option though.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

10.2 ppg 6.3 rpg 1.2 bpg 71%FT 50%FG. Why not? Chris Mihm come on down!

[bigdog]

i hope most of you are drunk or something, because Chris Mihm is better than Elson and Butler. I wouldnt mind Mihm at all as our starter. if this rumor is true, we could send Sanders,Udrih, and Oberto for him, given that we get Elson and Butler, then we could use Jacque Vaughn as our main backup PG,and sign CJ Watson from summer league.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

i hope most of you are drunk or something, because Chris Mihm is better than Elson and Butler. I wouldnt mind Mihm at all as our starter. if this rumor is true, we could send Sanders,Udrih, and Oberto for him, given that we get Elson and Butler, then we could use Jacque Vaughn as our main backup PG,and sign CJ Watson from summer league.

That's it?

Shit where do I sign.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

i hope most of you are drunk or something, because Chris Mihm is better than Elson and Butler. I wouldnt mind Mihm at all as our starter. if this rumor is true, we could send Sanders,Udrih, and Oberto for him, given that we get Elson and Butler, then we could use Jacque Vaughn as our main backup PG,and sign CJ Watson from summer league.
NO! KEEP OBERTO!!!

[strangeweather]

NO! KEEP OBERTO!!!
Because Oberto > Mihm?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Because Oberto > Mihm?

Obviously.

[bigdog]

Because Oberto > Mihm?

haha. exactly what i was gonna say

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

[QUOTE=strangeweather]Because Oberto > Mihm?[/QUOTEIf we get Mihm over here I want Butler and Elson to be matched because I want Oberto to get a lot of time. I'm tellin you he will surprise everyone, just if he gets a chance!

[bigdog]

That's it?

Shit where do I sign.

haha. Well if the trade goes down the way I had it, this is what the lineup looks like:

C- Mihm/Elson/Butler
PF- Duncan/Bonner/Horry
SF- Bowen/Melzer(if he makes the roster)/Jamar Smith(if he makes the roster)
SG-Ginobili/Finley/Barry
PG-Parker/Vaughn/Watson(if he gets signed)

[Please_dont_ban_me]

haha. Well if the trade goes down the way I had it, this is what the lineup looks like:

C- Mihm/Elson/Butler
PF- Duncan/Bonner/Horry
SF- Bowen/Melzer(if he makes the roster)/Jamar Smith(if he makes the roster)
SG-Ginobili/Finley/Barry
PG-Parker/Vaughn/Watson(if he gets signed)

"How you had it"?

Damn you, I thought it was legit. Well Denver seems to be matching on the Elson offer, as is NY on Butler...and this Mihm deal seems to have been your fantasy so it seems we're stuck with our dick in our hands.

[Big P]

And the Lakers would do this because...

Seems to me-- if the Spurs could trade Brent for Mihm plus filler, they would have done that a long time ago and never signed Elson to an offer sheet. Unless, of course, this is a back- up plan and the Spurs are now willing to part with something whom they did not want to part with to get a starting center.


I never said that the Lakers would do this...I was trying to see what players would have to be included for this "trade" to work...people were assuming that Barry would be the one traded (if this rumor is even true)...I was saying that Barry for Mihm does not work, but EWill for Mihm does.

[strangeweather]

If we get Mihm over here I want Butler and Elson to be matched because I want Oberto to get a lot of time. I'm tellin you he will surprise everyone, just if he gets a chance!
I hate to tell you, but unless they're planning on playing him ahead of Bonner and Horry at PF, the Spurs have not been making moves that remotely imply that they want to put Oberto in the rotation. They've clearly been gunning for two centers all along. Whether it's Elson/Butler, Mihm/Elson, or Lorenzen Wright and some guy off the street, there's no way Oberto is in their center plans.

[Kori Ellis]

It's funny that some people wouldn't want Mihm. :wtf

We are thinking about ELSON as the starting center :lmao

Mihm is a huge upgrade to that.

Anyway, the original thread starter just made this up, I'm sure.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I'm just bullshitting here, but how about Barry/ErikWill for Mihm?

Both seem expendable on our part, and I think Phil could put both of them to good use. Iuno.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Elson brings more toughness IMO...

But Mihm is definately a better all-around player. He'll hold his ground on defense, can pass well, can shoot well, has some back to the basket game. If I had to choose...I would probably go with Mihm over Elson.

[bigdog]

I'm just bullshitting here, but how about Barry/ErikWill for Mihm?

Both seem expendable on our part, and I think Phil could put both of them to good use. Iuno.

salary-wise it wont work. E-will has about 6 million left on his contract and barry has about 7.5 million left. Mihm's contract is like 6 million or something like that

[Kori Ellis]

salary-wise it wont work. E-will has about 6 million left on his contract and barry has about 7.5 million left. Mihm's contract is like 6 million or something like that

EWill and Mihm each have 4.2-4.3M left.

Barry only makes 5.1M this season.

So EWill for Mihm or Barry for Mihm work.

[Big P]

Like I said earlier, Barry for Mihm straight up does not work..EWill for Mihm straight up does work.

[Kori Ellis]

Like I said earlier, Barry for Mihm straight up does not work...

Why not?

[Big P]

Outgoing
Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes
Incoming
Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +4.4 ppg, +4.2 rpg, and -0.7 apg.


L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes
Incoming
Brent Barry
6-7 SG from Oregon State
5.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 17.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.4 ppg, -4.2 rpg, and +0.7 apg.



Failed Scenario
Due to San Antonio and L.A. Lakers being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio and L.A. Lakers had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here (only San Antonio met the condition). This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

[Kori Ellis]

I think that's wrong.

They are only 900K apart in salary.

[Bruno]

I think that's wrong.

They are only 900K apart in salary.

Maybe it's because of Barry's trade kicker.

[Kori Ellis]

Maybe it's because of Barry's trade kicker.

I guess.

I didn't know he had one.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

If it's not that big of a difference, I'm sure either party would be willing to do a throw-in to get the deal done.

[Big P]

Barry does have a trade kicker.

[Mr. Body]

I don't see why Realgm doesn't have it working. The salaries are within 125%.

[Big P]

trade kicker

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

hell yes

[missmyzte]

That would be hysterical. Personally, I don't think Bynum has shown that he's developed enough to be a full-time back-up to Kwame, I think we still need Mihm. However, getting Mihm on the Spurs would be good for San Antonio.

I haven't heard any legitimate rumors of this though.

[Que Gee]

Mihm is NOT a bad pick up at the rate things are going...However, Lakes don't necessarily need another guard...BUT, they haven't signed Devean George yet. Barry does have a trade kicker as mentioned.

[missmyzte]

Mihm is NOT a bad pick up at the rate things are going...However, Lakes don't necessarily need another guard...BUT, they haven't signed Devean George yet. Barry does have a trade kicker as mentioned.
And they aren't going to, Devean George is gone. Lakers signed Vladimir Radmanovic to replace Devean.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Props to the penultimate troll - LakerGod, he's got you guys rolling on fucking POS Chris Mihm.

[spurs=bling]

funny thing is that i had a dream that the spurs got Chris Mihm....weird

[SequNets]

Chris Mihm would be awesome!

[ro_50]

I dont see the Lakers going for Barry.

They got Mo Evans to back up Kobe.

[gameFACE]

That's funny about this supposed rumor. My cousin's brother-in-law know's a guy at work who said his friend's ex co-worker heard the same thing.

Mihm and Butler would be the best duo at this point. They could keep each other honest competing for the starter position. Assuming Mihm would have it to begin. The starting center position would definitely be up in the air if the team ends up with an Elson/Butler duo.

What exactly is Barry's trade kicker?

[Tek_XX]

Chris Mihm=first gay spur

[SA210]

My cousin's brother-in-law know's a guy at work who said his friend's ex co-worker heard the same thing.
:lol

[whottt]

Um...I don't want Barry traded to the Lakers. Phil Jackson is not the coach and the Lakers are not the team, that Barry needs to be playing for.

We'll regret that trade if we make it.


Barry > Elson and or Mihm...especially with Phil Jackson punching his buttons.


We definitely don't need Mihm that badly...he's not a difference maker.

And Barry's age isn't a factor there either...that's just about the age where Phil turns them into 3 point killers and gets 3 more deadly years out of them. And Barry's already capable of being and has been, a killer, even with zero confidence...


Trade Barry anywhere but to LA...or Phoenix.

[beirmeistr]

Barry would work great with Kobe because Barry is unselfish and passes the ball. Kobe would love that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

yes kobe likes to be on the recieving end of barrys lobs

[phyzik]

Im just suprised anyone on this board is even considering this as a valid topic considering the origional posters credibility. My dog has more credibility when he shits in the house and acts all scared like it wasnt him when we find it.

[Axl Van Dam]

But Bynum is the next Shaq. Nevermind he got owned by a D-League scrub on Saturday.

:lmao :lmao :lmao ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME???? :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Louie Vega]

Chris Mihm to the Spurs

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao :lmao :lmao ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME???? :lmao :lmao :lmaoI shouldn't be so hard on Bynum -- he got owned by a D-League champion.

But yeah, it happened. Memphis might just go into training camp with two huge Greek centers....

http://www.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1153113486.jpg

[Doug Collins]

[QUOTE=strangeweather]Because Oberto > Mihm?[/QUOTEIf we get Mihm over here I want Butler and Elson to be matched because I want Oberto to get a lot of time. I'm tellin you he will surprise everyone, just if he gets a chance!


You're either Argentinian or just fuckin stupid. Oberto is not NBA material, end of discussion. He's already "surprised everyone" by tricking the spurs into signing yet another foreign big who cant jump or do much of anything outside of adjusting his hair.

[timvp]

You're either Argentinian or just fuckin stupid. Oberto is not NBA material, end of discussion. He's already "surprised everyone" by tricking the spurs into signing yet another foreign big who cant jump or do much of anything outside of adjusting his hair.

:lol

Good blast.

[exstatic]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Mihm pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

[Solid D]

You're either Argentinian or just fuckin stupid. Oberto is not NBA material, end of discussion. He's already "surprised everyone" by tricking the spurs into signing yet another foreign big who cant jump or do much of anything outside of adjusting his hair.

Sequ, is that you?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

You're either Argentinian or just fuckin stupid. Oberto is not NBA material, end of discussion. He's already "surprised everyone" by tricking the spurs into signing yet another foreign big who cant jump or do much of anything outside of adjusting his hair.
What do you know? You're a commentator!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Mihm pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
You really got your relations straightened out. :lol I wish I had your memory.

[MajorMike]

If Barry goes to LA... are you kidding me??? Under a Jackson led team Barry's worth will be magnified...

We will regret this if we end up getting Mihm and if the Lakers end up getting the missing cog Jackson's been looking for as a PG.....

1st off, Barry is not a PG. He is a servicable substitution when Beno/Nick were injured and Tony needed a blow. When he comes in, he plays the 2. Sure sometimes he brings the ball down, but so does Manu, and he ain't no PG. barry would be playing behind and/or opposite Kobe. Even there he would split time with Vujacic, who showed his ability to hit clutch 3s as well. Barry wouldn't be anything more than he is now.

[Phenomanul]

I dont see the Lakers going for Barry.

They got Mo Evans to back up Kobe.


Barry would play the 1 in LA not the 2....

[Mr. Body]

1st off, Barry is not a PG. He is a servicable substitution when Beno/Nick were injured and Tony needed a blow. When he comes in, he plays the 2. Sure sometimes he brings the ball down, but so does Manu, and he ain't no PG. barry would be playing behind and/or opposite Kobe. Even there he would split time with Vujacic, who showed his ability to hit clutch 3s as well. Barry wouldn't be anything more than he is now.

I see Barry starting. In the triangle, they like big guards who don't necessarily handle the ball or initiate the offense. Barry would be one of the better ball-handlers in that position Phil has had. He just needs to move the ball around, learn the sets, and hit threes. He's already shown he can play pretty good defense.

[Phenomanul]

1st off, Barry is not a PG. He is a servicable substitution when Beno/Nick were injured and Tony needed a blow. When he comes in, he plays the 2. Sure sometimes he brings the ball down, but so does Manu, and he ain't no PG. barry would be playing behind and/or opposite Kobe. Even there he would split time with Vujacic, who showed his ability to hit clutch 3s as well. Barry wouldn't be anything more than he is now.

I seem to recall Barry as the PG in Seattle.... he thrived in that offense...

[Sportcamper]

This would not make sense for the Lakers. It would leave them with Kwame Brown and Andrew Bynum handling the center duties. Mihm is better than either one of those guys.

Tlong...Once again you have proven to have vast NBA insight.....Mihm may be a bit clumsy but he can score....Bynum is still a child...”Kwame is still Kwame” now you see him now you don’t....

Now can you do me a favor? Remove that frightening...emaciated... boney azz... gal in desperate need of 50 pounds & replace the photo with something more appealing...How about Vida Guerra? (http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/fwd/20060713/capt.fwd110b20060713jpg.jpg?)
:smokin

[MajorMike]

I seem to recall Barry as the PG in Seattle.... he thrived in that offense...

He has averaged 3.5 assists for his career. in 11 seasons he has had more rebounds than assists 8 times. TiMVP has averaged 3.1 assists for his career... maybe he can be our backup PG.

[leemajors]

Tlong...Once again you have proven to have vast NBA insight.....Mihm may be a bit clumsy but he can score....Bynum is still a child...”Kwame is still Kwame” now you see him now you don’t....

Now can you do me a favor? Remove that frightening...emaciated... boney azz... gal in desperate need of 50 pounds & replace the photo with something more appealing...How about Vida Guerra? (http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/fwd/20060713/capt.fwd110b20060713jpg.jpg?)
:smokin

damn that girl has some booty.

[pache100]

they need to get Kobe some more help. Because Kobe is not the team by himself.

Ok, I'll buy that. The hard part is convincing Kobe of that. If you could, you'd make history.


Chris Mihm=first gay spur

Are you sure?

[MrChug]

We tried to get Chris Mihm last season. This makes sense...now--------------it does NOT mean that this "rumor" is worth more than the breakfast I just flushed down the toilet, but he's a good center.

[Doug Collins]

What do you know? You're a commentator!


You honestly think he's gonna magically gain a vertical leap and nba skills after 31 years of not having them? I like the guy's attitude and all, but he's not gonna become a contributor no matter how many minutes you give him.

[nkdlunch]

Mihm is the american version of Rasho

[Sportcamper]

Mihm is the american version of Rasho

That is total BS! Mihm is not afraid of anyone...He is just a bit clumsy & sometimes boxes himself out of the play.... :smokin

[SpursWillOwn]

everyone put Lakerfan on hate-list, he's out to kill spurs

[Sportcamper]

Rasho Nesterovic... (http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/Rasho_Nesterovic-arton21113-240x240.jpg)
:lol :rollin :lol

Chris Mihm.. (http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/Chris_Mihm-arton21090-240x240.jpg) :elephant

[Phenomanul]

He has averaged 3.5 assists for his career. in 11 seasons he has had more rebounds than assists 8 times. TiMVP has averaged 3.1 assists for his career... maybe he can be our backup PG.


But that includes his years with the Bulls and the Clippers... etc... single out his days in Seattle when he played the 1.

[rascal]

That is total BS! Mihm is not afraid of anyone...He is just a bit clumsy & sometimes boxes himself out of the play.... :smokin

Agree Mihm is better than Rasho becasue he plays with more intensity but he gets owned too often by quicker more athletic players. Try to stay away from slow footed big white centers with marginal athletic ability. Too often they just cannot matchup with the quicker more athletic bigs.

[alamo50]

Mihm would be a great fit over here.
Too bad it's just a Fake(r) rumor.......right?

[CaptainLate]

[QUOTE=strangeweather]Because Oberto > Mihm?[/QUOTEIf we get Mihm over here I want Butler and Elson to be matched because I want Oberto to get a lot of time. I'm tellin you he will surprise everyone, just if he gets a chance!

Same with Beno. But NVE screwed that up last year and look where we are now?

[CaptainLate]

I see Barry starting. In the triangle, they like big guards who don't necessarily handle the ball or initiate the offense. Barry would be one of the better ball-handlers in that position Phil has had. He just needs to move the ball around, learn the sets, and hit threes. He's already shown he can play pretty good defense.

Who was the "old" big guard named Harper that thrived under Phil?

[Mr. Body]

Who was the "old" big guard named Harper that thrived under Phil?

What do you mean, who was he? Ron Harper?

[CaptainLate]

What do you mean, who was he? Ron Harper?

Yes, Ron Harper. He did quite well with Phil in the Triangle.

[Mr. Body]

Yes, very well. Technically not a point guard, but played one in the triangle.

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

Mihm, much like D. George, looks just fine in purple and YELLOW.

[Taking it to the Hole]

If Barry leaves, who is going to back up Manu? Not something that I want to see, unless you move Finley to back-up SG, so then that would leave Bonner as the back-up for Bowen. Nope, nope, nope,....not going to work. :nope

[Doug Collins]

Same with Beno. But NVE screwed that up last year and look where we are now?


Franchise record in wins and almost made it to the western conference finals again. Wow what a terrible season. I'm sure if we had Beno playing more minutes we wouldnt be in such an overall shitty situation :rolleyes cause Beno never turns the ball over in the backcourt nor does he get rattled by simple things such as dribbling. Lets start Beno and Oberto cause they may just surprise us!!!! :elephant :elephant :drunk

[Que Gee]

He has averaged 3.5 assists for his career. in 11 seasons he has had more rebounds than assists 8 times. TiMVP has averaged 3.1 assists for his career... maybe he can be our backup PG.

But he only played PG for 2 maybe 3 years of those 11, so it obviously stands to reason his overall apg would be low for his career. Look at it for the last few years in Seattle.

He also already knows the triangle offense. He's played in it briefly.

However, this deal is a pipe dream and a good rumor.