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Bandit2981
10-20-2004, 12:07 PM
link (http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/fahrenheit911/free/index.php)

VIDEO STORES ACROSS THE NATION TO RENT CUSTOMERS "FAHRENHEIT 9/11" FREE OF CHARGE

While on his 60 city "Slacker Uprising Tour," Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is joining forces with video store operators in an effort to get as many Americans as possible to see the film before the election. Video stores across the country will be waiving the usual rental fee for "Fahrenheit 9/11," beginning on October 26. A recent Harris poll showed that 44 percent of Republicans who have seen the film gave it a positive rating. "It isn't possible to view this film and come out saying you are voting George W. Bush," stated Moore.

Moore is currently on a 60-city tour to the 20 battleground states to rally non-voters and slackers, America's majority, to give voting a try, just this once. He's offering clean underwear and Ramen noodles to slackers, which has Republicans in his home state of Michigan calling for his arrest.

Moore is appearing on college campuses, arenas, stadiums and field houses. Nearly all venues hold between 5,000 and 15,000 people, with students -- historically the largest block of non-voters in presidential elections -- admitted for free at most events.

If you are a video store owner interested in getting involved, please e-mail us at [email protected].

baseline bum
10-20-2004, 12:20 PM
He's offering clean underwear and Ramen noodles to slackers, which has Republicans in his home state of Michigan calling for his arrest.

:lmao

More than Bush has ever done for me

gophergeorge
10-20-2004, 12:22 PM
:lmao

More than Bush has ever done for me


Ah but the question remains... what have you done for yourself?

MsMcGillyCutty
10-20-2004, 12:24 PM
I "did" myself this morning.

CosmicCowboy
10-20-2004, 12:32 PM
I "did" myself this morning.

digitally or mechanically?...enquiring minds want to know...:eyebrows

Useruser666
10-20-2004, 12:49 PM
:wow

Hook Dem
10-20-2004, 04:55 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Bandit peddling "old" merchandise.

JoeChalupa
10-20-2004, 05:03 PM
I still haven't watched it but Mouse recorded it for me so I just might.
But if I'm slammin' some brews it may just cause me to come in here and talk more anti-Bush smack and I try to keep a level head.
I just hope nobody comes to my door while I'm pie-eyed and asks me to buy girl scout cookies when I'm actually registering as a republican.

Oh the horrah!!

SpursWoman
10-20-2004, 05:03 PM
It wouldn't be free for me. I'm sure I still owe Blockbuster something for something I forgot to return.

Shelly
10-20-2004, 05:14 PM
It wouldn't be free for me. I'm sure I still owe Blockbuster something for something I forgot to return.

Blockbuster invents imaginary late fees. Especially if you return movies in the video slot. It got so bad that I made them check the movies in while standing there watching them.


Bastards

CrazyOne
10-20-2004, 05:29 PM
Mouse copied it for me, but I haven't had the time to watch it yet... but it would be best to view it as part of a double billing with Farenhype 9/11... that might illuminate the junk in the first one.

JoeChalupa
10-20-2004, 05:37 PM
The truth in the first one cannot be denied by the lies in the "sequel".

Just the facts mamm, just the facts.

Uncle Donnie
10-20-2004, 06:54 PM
It actually rebuts many of the main points of the movie with documented facts. Again, I wouldn't bash either movie without seeing it but I also wouldn't condone seeing Fahrenheit 911 without seeing FahrenHype.

http://www.fahrenhype911.com/

Nbadan
10-20-2004, 11:55 PM
Just to show that I am more apt to be open-minded than the Bushiveks on this board, I forced myself to watch Fhype/911 yesterday, and I have just a few observations...

1. When did Dick Morris turn gay?

2. With all due respect to the 911 teacher and the Oregon State Patrol officer, they don't have a clue about what the hell they are talking about.

3. Was Ron Silva high on coke the whole time in the movie or what?

4. Ed Koch has the weirdest looking shaped head I have ever seen.

5. Fahrenhype911 makes no sense unless you seen F/911, so in a way you could say that it is a promotional video for F/911 and Michael Moore.

6. Ann Coulter really does have a adam's apple.

7. F/911 out-facts Fhype/911 by a 4-1 margin.

8. Does the writer of that book, ya know, the Kid with the big nose, look like he has had a cock in his mouth far to often?

9. Where are the supposed terrorists plotters mentioned in the movie that have been captured in the U.S.? and what evidence do we have that they even exists or what has happened to them?

10. Spin. Spin. Spin, but no smoking gun that makes you go hummm....

Marcus Bryant
10-21-2004, 12:02 AM
I spared myself the trouble and have seen neither. As for the allusion to Soviet communism, I'd say that fits your ideology just a tad bit more snugly. But hey, whatever sounds good, I suppose.


7. F/911 out-facts Fhype/911 by a 4-1 margin.

Well my left nut out-out-facts you and F/911.

Nbadan
10-21-2004, 12:05 AM
:rolleyes

Right. That's why Putin, who is in the middle of a power grab of his own in Russia, is a proud supporter of W.

Marcus Bryant
10-21-2004, 12:06 AM
Um ok. That made a lot of sense.

Yonivore
10-21-2004, 12:14 AM
Here, let's try a truly open-minded review of the movie...


October 20, 2004, 8:37 a.m.
Turning Up the Heat on Moore (http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/preston200410200837.asp)
FahrenHYPE 9/11 takes on Fahrenheit 9/11’s dishonesty.

By Bryan Preston

Army Specialist Peter Damon sits under a shade tree and relates his war story from Iraq. As he and his best friend, Paul Bush, worked on a tire on their vehicle, an explosion went off. Bush was killed.

The camera pulls back, and you see for the first time that Damon didn't escape the incident unharmed. The explosion that killed his friend also took his arms from the elbows down. He is a young man with a young family, all with most of their lives ahead of them. His left sleeve is empty; his right arm has been replaced by a prosthesis with a sharp metal hook on the end. Damon is angry, and his voice takes on the tones of a man who knows he has been exploited.

He is not angry at President Bush for sending him to Iraq. Specialist Damon volunteered for the Army like all of our soldiers, and he is proud of his service in Iraq. He is not even particularly angry about the explosion that killed his friend and cost him his arms. He is angry with filmmaker Michael Moore.

While lying in a hospital bed at Walter Reed Army Hospital recovering weeks after the attack, NBC's Brian Williams interviewed the wounded soldier. Though Damon's arms are gone, he experiences "phantom pain" as if they were still attached. Though Moore never visited the military hospital and never even met Damon, he somehow obtained that NBC footage and used it in his film Fahrenheit 9/11, taking Damon's words out of context to make it appear that he is angry about the war and that his "phantom pain" is the pain of a soldier abandoned by his country and betrayed by his president. Nothing could be further from the truth.

At this point, Damon looks into the camera as though he is speaking directly to Michael Moore, and says, "You know you've lied in making this movie. You know you lied in my case, you know you lied in a whole lot of other cases."

Indeed, Michael Moore lied throughout Fahrenheit 9/11 — and not just about Specialist Damon. It's time to set the record straight.

Damon's story comes a little more than halfway through FahrenHYPE 9/11, the newly released documentary that means to be the antidote to Michael Moore's more famous film. Damon's story of exploitation at the hands of Moore is not unique: In fact, it is the norm. In Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore smears military recruiters and portrays American soldiers in Iraq as mindless monsters, then uses footage from the funerals of the fallen without even bothering to consult their families. He exploits the wounded and the dead without remorse, and smears the living with a devilish glee. He portrays President Bush as a cold-blooded, golf-club-wielding maniac, and portrays Saddam Hussein's Iraq as an idyllic land where children flew kites instead of being tossed into pre-teen prisons. Moore's film is an unconscionable exercise in deceit from start to finish. He obtained interviews under false pretenses, then used those interviews to insinuate things that the interview subjects neither believe nor support.

Case in point: Oregon State Trooper Andy Kenyon. Moore sent a crew to interview him under the guise of making a documentary about cutbacks in some state police programs. Moore did not attend the filming himself and his name never came up, for obvious reasons. The film crew led Kenyon to believe that the documentary was probably bound for public television, if it made broadcast at all. So Kenyon consented to the interview and answered questions related to those cutbacks. The day before Fahrenheit 9/11 opened, someone from Moore's production company called Kenyon to tell him he was in that film. Shocked, Kenyon went to see the film, only to see his answers about state-level cutbacks blamed on the Bush administration, and twisted to insinuate that in cutting Oregon's state police budget (something no president has the authority to do, since state-police budgets are a state matter), President Bush had left the Oregon coastline without police protection. But it was never the Oregon state-police force's job to patrol the coast in the first place. That responsibility belongs to the Coast Guard. In researching the story of Oregon's state-police cutbacks, it is impossible for Moore not to have learned these salient facts. Yet he left them all out to create a false impression that the Bush administration's tax cuts directly took needed police off the streets.

Kenyon's story is but one of several that Moore misuses to create false impressions and to willingly fool gullible or simply uninformed viewers. In exposing Moore's rampant dishonesty, FahrenHYPE 9/11 amounts a prosecutor's dossier against him.

While it may not be the most entertaining documentary ever made, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a good and necessary film. In a time of war, Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 has convinced millions of Americans and even some of our troops that we are fighting the war for oil or to make the president's friends rich — or for some reason other than to avenge 9/11 and make sure it never happens again. FahrenHYPE 9/11 refutes Michael Moore on his own turf.

Director Alan Peterson may seem like an unlikely person to battle one of the world's most famous (or infamous) filmmakers. Before 9/11, Peterson was a conventional liberal. But seeing the second plane hit the World Trade Center that morning changed him forever.

"Prior to that moment, I had considered myself an intellectual liberal. One of those people who think that they are superior because they believe they are privy to some hidden knowledge that the rest of the world doesn't understand; a knowledge that lets you belittle our government and nation because, of course, you know more than they do. In that single, horrific moment, I realized how stupid I was."

Peterson, a long-time freelance director and producer, saw his liberalism melt away in that instant. When Moore's antiwar film became the left-wing must-see movie this summer, Peterson decided something had to be done to counter it. Executive producers Lee Troxler and Jeff Hays agreed, and hired Peterson to direct a film that would respond directly to Fahrenheit 9/11.

Former Clinton-administration adviser Dick Morris hosts and actor Ron Silver narrates. Former New York Mayor Ed Koch, Senator Zell Miller, pundit and author Ann Coulter, New York Congressman Peter King, and bestselling authors Steven Emerson and David Frum also appear along with many who were exploited in Moore's film and now want to refute the words he put in their mouths. Together they take down Fahrenheit 9/11 point by point and expose Moore's twisted timelines and misapplied polemics.

In both of the Fahren- films, we may be seeing the birth of a new genre of documentary. FahrenHYPE 9/11 started production in August 2004 and was finished just 32 days later. That rapid turnaround, made possible by digital filmmaking systems like Avid XPress Pro and Unity, makes FahrenHYPE 9/11 one of the first documentaries made to refute another documentary in as close to real time as current technology and the human mind will allow. The point-counterpoint documentary cannot be made much more quickly or much better than Peterson has made FahrenHYPE 9/11.

Far from being a personal screed or political tract against a single man, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a thoughtful and dense film full of interesting and timely content. It is well written and well developed. There are a couple of minor aesthetic and storytelling choices that I found questionable, but overall it's a fine film. Covering the Patriot Act and the myriad terrorist attacks it has disrupted as well as the United Nations' massive Oil-for-Food scandal, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a great primer for anyone confused about the complex war on jihad, or how we became involved in it, or how we are fighting it. For the liberals who made Michael Moore the toast of the summer and the Democratic National Convention, FahrenHYPE 9/11 should be required viewing. America needs this film to undo the damage Moore's movie has been doing all year.

Nbadan
10-21-2004, 12:21 AM
It is well written and well developed.

:rollin

This movie proves that it is much easier to try and debunk something with spin than to try and make a original point using your own ideas. This movie was neither well written or well developed.

Yonivore
10-21-2004, 12:32 AM
:rollin

This movie proves that it is much easier to try and debunk something with spin than to try and make a original point using your own ideas. This movie was neither well written or well developed.
Okay, both yours and his are opinions...how 'bout speaking to facts...

Like the misuse of Damon's interview and the footage from funerals?

Nbadan
10-21-2004, 12:49 AM
Like the misuse of Damon's interview

Hey, genius - Damon probably got a lot of heat for being a little to honest in F/911.

I am well aware of the context manipulation Moore used in F/911, but do you see the context manipulation used by the GOP, Rush Limpballs, Sean Insannity, Bill O"Reilly...and so on, and so on.....everyday?

Yonivore
10-21-2004, 01:27 AM
Hey, genius - Damon probably got a lot of heat for being a little to honest in F/911.
Nice conspiracy you got going there.

I am well aware of the context manipulation Moore used in F/911, but do you see the context manipulation used by the GOP, Rush Limpballs, Sean Insannity, Bill O"Reilly...and so on, and so on.....everyday?
Can you ever stick to a topic? We're talking about the Moore "mockumentary." Glad to see you admit he distorted the truth though.

whottt
10-21-2004, 01:31 AM
Hey, genius - Damon probably got a lot of heat for being a little to honest in F/911.

I am well aware of the context manipulation Moore used in F/911, but do you see the context manipulation used by the GOP, Rush Limpballs, Sean Insannity, Bill O"Reilly...and so on, and so on.....everyday?

I don't know about you but I never use those guys as my sources. My main source for Kerry criticism is John Kerry himself...he likes to talk and has revealed his true self quite often in the past. Not to mention his actions.

Vote Republican Dan, you know it's the right thing to do. You know you really want to believe the good things about America and not the cynicsm that is so overwhelmingly negative. It's not that Bush is the greatest candidate in history, it's not that he's not a lot of things that you claim...it's that he's a much better candidate than Kerry. You know it's true...do the right thing. C'mon Dan, wave that flag.