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Bandit2981
10-20-2004, 12:11 PM
Congrats Dubya, you have the re-election support of the axis of evil! :lmao

link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041019/ap_on_el_pr/iran_us_elections_1)

TEHRAN, Iran - The head of Iran's security council said on Tuesday the re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) was in Tehran's best interests, despite the administration's axis of evil label, accusations that Iran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and threats of sanctions over the country's nuclear ambitions.

Historically, Democrats have harmed Iran more than Republicans, said Hasan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security Council, Iran's top security decision-making body.

"We haven't seen anything good from Democrats," Rowhani told state-run television in remarks that, for the first time in recent decades, saw Iran openly supporting one U.S. presidential candidate over another.

"We should not forget that most sanctions and economic pressures were imposed on Iran during the time of Clinton," Rowhani said of the former Democratic president. "And we should not forget that during Bush's era — despite his hard-line and baseless rhetoric against Iran — he didn't take, in practical terms, any dangerous action against Iran."

Though Iran generally does not publicly wade into U.S. presidential politics, it has a history of preferring Republicans over Democrats, who tend to press human rights issues.

"We do not desire to see Democrats take over," Rowhani said when asked if Iran was supporting Kerry against Bush.

The United States severed diplomatic relations with Iran after militants stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979 and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. Iranian clerics were crucial in determining the fate of the 1980 U.S. election when Republican Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) won in part because Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter was unable to secure the hostages' release.

The hostages were freed as Reagan was inaugurated.

The United States supported Iraq (news - web sites) in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, but by the late 1990s, U.S.-Iranian relations were somewhat better. They plummeted again after Bush accused Iran of being part of the "axis of evil" with North Korea (news - web sites) and prewar Iraq.

The Bush administration also accuses Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons and sheltering operatives of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al-Qaida terror network. Still, Iran was happy to see Bush destroy two big regional enemies — the Taliban in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) in Iraq.

Iranian political analyst Mohsen Mofidi said ousting the Taliban and Saddam was the "biggest service any administration could have done for Iran."

And Bush, he said, has learned from his mistakes.

"The experience of two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the responsibility Bush had, will make it a very remote possibility for him to risk attacking a much bigger and more powerful country like Iran," he said.

Mofidi added that "Democrats usually insist on human rights and they will have more excuses to pressure Iran."

Republican and Democratic presidents have issued executive orders against Iran, with Reagan in 1987 barring Iranian crude oil and other imports, and Clinton in 1995 banning U.S. trade and investment in Iran.

Bush has been reluctant to offer Iran any incentives for better U.S.-Iranian relations, but in recent days there have been signs Washington will back European economic incentives if Iran stops uranium enrichment activities.

Gholamreza Aghazadeh, head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, was quoted by state-run television Tuesday as saying Iran is interested in buying nuclear fuel from the West, but will not concede its right to the technology.

The nuclear issue has been most sensitive, and the Bush administration is threatening to press for sanctions against Iran over it. Washington accuses Tehran of trying to build bombs. Tehran says its nuclear ambitions are peaceful, for energy purposes.

Kerry, who says halting nuclear proliferation will be a priority if he becomes president, believes Bush should have done more diplomatically to curb Iran's alleged nuclear weapons ambitions. He says Iran should be offered nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes, but spent fuel should be taken back so it cannot be used to develop nuclear weapons.

Kavoos Emami, another Iranian political analyst, praised Kerry for mentioning the need for dialogue with Iran, and said the Democrat would be better for Iran.

"Bush has insulted Iran more than any other U.S. administration. If Kerry is elected, a U.S. military attack against Iran will never happen or will be a very remote possibility," he said.

JohnnyMarzetti
10-20-2004, 12:20 PM
Who is next? N. Korea?

Spurminator
10-20-2004, 12:54 PM
I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Especially to people who value diplomacy so highly as a means of disarming dangerous regimes.

Useruser666
10-20-2004, 01:00 PM
....keep your enemies closer.

Marcus Bryant
10-20-2004, 01:04 PM
I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Especially to people who value diplomacy so highly as a means of disarming dangerous regimes.

No doubt.

Bandit2981
10-20-2004, 01:06 PM
just the other day conservtives were here bashing a supposed pro-iranian group contributing to kerry, just for the fact they supported iran...my, the hypocracy is rampant

Useruser666
10-20-2004, 01:22 PM
just the other day some liberals were stealing from my garbage and I had to turn the hose on them. Ok, well maybe it was raccoons.

Bandit2981
10-20-2004, 01:22 PM
no response? not surprising

Useruser666
10-20-2004, 01:23 PM
:lol you were 10 seconds too late! :lol

Bandit2981
10-20-2004, 01:26 PM
no, i was responding to your irrelevant post actually

whottt
10-20-2004, 01:32 PM
It's good that Iran wants us to invade them. The world will be a better place after we do...and I think deep down in their hearts the Mullah's know it's time for them to go.

Spurminator
10-20-2004, 01:39 PM
I don't remember saying a thing about Iranian contributions to Kerry. No hypocracy here.

Did you have something to say about those contributions?

whottt
10-20-2004, 01:41 PM
Mullahshitheadi of Iran also had this to say about Bush:

We love that bush has been selling Israel bombs to take our nuclear plants out. This is why we upped our nuclear weapons production...it was our goal to get Bush to sell Israel weapons to destroy us with.

Since we refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist and are sworn to it's(and Americas) destruction...the fact that Bush has been:

Selling Israel bombs
Invading countries that neighbor us
Toppling despotic governments like ours even in the face of world wide pussing out(er disapproval)
Surrounding us on all sides with the US millitary
All the while declaring us a country that is part of the axis of evil, and a possible future target for invasion...

We wholeheartedly support President Bush and feel that he is the best candidate. We feel that getting our asses kicked and removed from power is the best thing to improve relations between the US and Iran.

We cannot wait to join the party and get bombed into the stoneage, with death and destruction reigning down on our country, just like Afghanistan and Iraq.

We just want to know what is taking America so long to do this to us?

Useruser666
10-20-2004, 01:43 PM
no, i was responding to your irrelevant post actually

I believe I can quote as many sources for my post as the statement you presented in yours. I'm sorry, but the arguement you presented was pretty general even if it had the facts to support it.

Nbadan
10-20-2004, 01:44 PM
:lol

For Whott, denial isn't just a river in Africa.

Marcus Bryant
10-20-2004, 01:50 PM
Well Spurm of course you speak for all conservatives. Didn't you get last Thursday's memo?

whottt
10-20-2004, 01:51 PM
In a related story, Jaques Chirac and Saddam Hussein are also now endorsing Bush for president.

Said Chiraq as he wiped Hussen's jizz from his chin: We know the love the American people have for us and feel it is very necessary to let the people know we wholeheartedly endorse President Bush, and his vision for the world in which we are ridiculed, toppled from power, and exposed to be corrupt, elitist assholes. Please disreagard anything we might have said in the past 4 years.

And pelase Boycott us some more!

Hussein added: I vote for Bush for hte wonderful treatment he has given me the past 4 years. I have only one request to make of President Bush:

Can I be released from prison, watch my sons get killed, hunted like a dog, and toppled from power again? I really enjoyed it and want to thank President Bush for expanding my view of the world.

LandShark
10-20-2004, 03:06 PM
:lol

For Whott, denial isn't just a river in Africa.
Denial will be epidemic among liberals come November 3. :elephant

Hook Dem
10-20-2004, 04:16 PM
I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Especially to people who value diplomacy so highly as a means of disarming dangerous regimes.
Well spoken Spurm.

SpursWoman
10-20-2004, 04:22 PM
Did he? (http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=31107)

SpursWoman
10-20-2004, 04:28 PM
Premature Epostulation again....ya'll need to see someone about that (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=1&u=/ap/20041019/ap_on_el_pr/iran_us_elections)


Bush Receives Endorsement From Iran

Tue Oct 19, 6:33 PM ET

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran - The head of Iran's security council said Tuesday that the re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) was in Tehran's best interests, despite the administration's axis of evil label, accusations that Iran harbors al-Qaida terrorists and threats of sanctions over the country's nuclear ambitions.

Historically, Democrats have harmed Iran more than Republicans, said Hasan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security Council, Iran's top security decision-making body.

"We haven't seen anything good from Democrats," Rowhani told state-run television in remarks that, for the first time in recent decades, saw Iran openly supporting one U.S. presidential candidate over another.


Though Iran generally does not publicly wade into U.S. presidential politics, it has a history of preferring Republicans over Democrats, who tend to press human rights issues.


"We do not desire to see Democrats take over," Rowhani said when asked if Iran was supporting Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) against Bush.


The Bush campaign said no thanks.


"It's not an endorsement we'll be accepting anytime soon," Bush campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel said. "Iran should stop its pursuit of nuclear weapons and if they continue in the direction they are going, then we will have to look at what additional action may need to be taken including looking to the U.N. Security Council."

Kerry, who says halting nuclear proliferation will be a priority if he becomes president, believes Bush should have done more diplomatically to curb Iran's alleged nuclear weapons ambitions. He says Iran should be offered nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes, but spent fuel should be taken back so it cannot be used to develop nuclear weapons.

"It is telling that this president has received the endorsement of member of the axis of evil,"I AM ROFLMFAO AT THIS--I guess it's only okay if al Quaida loves you. Kerry campaign spokeswoman Allison Dobson said. "But Americans deserve a president who will have a comprehensive strategy to address the potential threat of Iran's growing nuclear program."

The United States severed diplomatic relations with Iran after militants stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979 and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. Iranian clerics were crucial in determining the fate of the 1980 U.S. election when Republican Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) won in part because Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter was unable to secure the hostages' release.

The hostages were freed as Reagan was inaugurated.

The United States supported Iraq (news - web sites) in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, but by the late 1990s, U.S.-Iranian relations were somewhat better. They plummeted again after Bush accused Iran of being part of the "axis of evil" with North Korea (news - web sites) and prewar Iraq.


The Bush administration also accuses Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons and sheltering operatives of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al-Qaida terror network. Still, Iran was happy to see Bush destroy two big regional enemies — the Taliban in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) in Iraq.


Iranian political analyst Mohsen Mofidi said ousting the Taliban and Saddam was the "biggest service any administration could have done for Iran."

And Bush, he said, has learned from his mistakes.

"The experience of two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the responsibility Bush had, will make it a very remote possibility for him to risk attacking a much bigger and more powerful country like Iran," he said.

Mofidi added that "Democrats usually insist on human rights and they will have more excuses to pressure Iran."

Republican and Democratic presidents have issued executive orders against Iran, with Reagan in 1987 barring Iranian crude oil and other imports, and Bill Clinton (news - web sites) in 1995 banning U.S. trade and investment in Iran.

"We should not forget that most sanctions and economic pressures were imposed on Iran during the time of Clinton," Rowhani said. "And we should not forget that during Bush's era — despite his hard-line and baseless rhetoric against Iran — he didn't take, in practical terms, any dangerous action against Iran."

Bush has been reluctant to offer Iran any incentives for better U.S.-Iranian relations, but in recent days there have been signs Washington will back European economic incentives if Iran stops uranium enrichment activities.

Gholamreza Aghazadeh, head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, was quoted by state-run television Tuesday as saying Iran is interested in buying nuclear fuel from the West, but will not concede its right to the technology.

The nuclear issue has been most sensitive, and the Bush administration is threatening to press for sanctions against Iran over it. Tehran says its nuclear ambitions are peaceful, for energy purposes.

Kavoos Emami, another Iranian political analyst, praised Kerry for mentioning the need for dialogue with Iran, and said the Democrat would be better for Iran.

"Bush has insulted Iran more than any other U.S. administration. If Kerry is elected, a U.S. military attack against Iran will never happen or will be a very remote possibility," he said.

boutons
10-20-2004, 04:40 PM
Iran knows the Repug bullies beat up only on weaklings, only start wars that are "slam dunks" (Granada, Panama Canal, Iraq I, Afghanistan, Iraq II) and will never face off with a country with real punching power, like Iran or N. Korea or Pakistan.

You got big sticks?
shrivels Repug dicks.

Yonivore
10-20-2004, 04:41 PM
Premature Epostulation? Damn, that's messy!

Hook Dem
10-20-2004, 04:46 PM
Iran knows the Repug bullies beat up only on weaklings, only start wars that are "slam dunks" (Granada, Panama Canal, Iraq I, Afghanistan, Iraq II) and will never face off with a country with real punching power, like Iran or N. Korea or Pakistan.

You got big sticks?
shrivels Repug dicks.
Nice American view there! Oh and by the way , since you insist on vulgarities.... :flipoff

Spurminator
10-20-2004, 04:48 PM
Iran knows the Repug bullies beat up only on weaklings, only start wars that are "slam dunks" (Granada, Panama Canal, Iraq I, Afghanistan, Iraq II) and will never face off with a country with real punching power, like Iran or N. Korea or Pakistan.

You got big sticks?
shrivels Repug dicks.


Nah, too easy.

Marcus Bryant
10-20-2004, 05:04 PM
Iran knows the Repug bullies beat up only on weaklings, only start wars that are "slam dunks"

Fuck yeah. Much better to join wars that result in hundreds of thousands of American dead. Well at least we won those. Lest I forget that Democrat spawned classic: Viet-fucking-nam.

Come on numbnuts, even a dumb fucker like you can come up with better material.

JoeChalupa
10-20-2004, 05:12 PM
Nice American view there! Oh and by the way , since you insist on vulgarities.... :flipoff

Vulgarities seem to be flying around lately.

Hook Dem
10-20-2004, 05:15 PM
Vulgarities seem to be flying around lately.
Yeah Joe but a lot more by some than others.

JoeChalupa
10-20-2004, 05:18 PM
I agree. I've noticed that too.

I know "ididnotnothat" found out the hard way.

whottt
10-20-2004, 06:09 PM
It's different Joe. Consevative profanity is less vulgar and dirty than liberal....just like the sex.

Aggie Hoopsfan
10-20-2004, 08:04 PM
Well, as much as Kerry and Co. preach diplomacy first, I can't see how this is a bad thing.

When we sit down to the table with Iran, they already know it's conform or get your ass handed to you.