What's more likely to happen? [Archive]

Brutalis

07-21-2006, 11:37 PM

a) Butler developes well, averages a solid 10/10/2 at least in this year or next.

b) He flops like Shaq selling his shoes at Wal-Mart. Just another Rasho and Nazr.

In your opinion, between those two, which is more likely to happen?

timvp

07-21-2006, 11:42 PM

Butler is 21. It's going to be three or four years before we can declare one way or the other in regards to whether he's a bust or not.

At worst if Butler bombs, the Spurs would have wasted less money on him than Sean Marks. Not too big of a deal.

That said, I am hoping for something like 7 points and 5 rebounds from him this season. That'd be nice.

:smokin

T Park

07-22-2006, 02:25 AM

7 and 6 in 19 20 minutes a game, while when getting heavy minutes getting 8 and 10 or 12 boards a game.

AFE7FATMAN

07-22-2006, 02:33 AM

A, because I am a FAN
B, because I am a pesimist.

Opinions are like (_) everyone has one. :lol

JamStone

07-22-2006, 10:14 AM

10/10/2 are awfully high expectations for an undrafted player who will likely platoon the center position, and probably won't play more than 20 mintes a game. Even higher for a player who in 58 NBA games has never registered double digit rebounding totals in a game.

exstatic

07-22-2006, 11:06 AM

8p/5r in 20 minutes. That's about what Al Jefferson put up in 18m last year.

picnroll

07-22-2006, 11:11 AM

Everything hinges on his defense. If he plays decent D he'll get the minutes. If he gets the minutes he'll score the points and get the rebounds. Apparently he's never been in truly great shape and hopefully he comes in in the best shape he's ever been in. That's key to his and the Spurs success.

Please_dont_ban_me

07-22-2006, 10:15 PM

10 boards and 2 blocks is pushing it, in my opinion...he's not really known as a defensive guy, or a shot-blocker.

So probably...when he gets good and fits in...12 points, 7 boards, 1 block...just a guess.

E20

07-22-2006, 10:22 PM

This year? Option B.

ATX Spur

07-22-2006, 10:25 PM

a regular 8 and 6 by the end of the season sounds reasonably optimistic for butler

spurster

07-22-2006, 11:16 PM

Wasted less money than Sean Marks? When did Sean Marks get $7M from the Spurs?

I think option c) he will tantilize us with a good game now and then, but will only reach and never get above the Rasho/Nazr level, which from a saving money point of view, might look good to the Spurs management.

ducks

07-22-2006, 11:16 PM

marks probly got close to 7 million from the spurs in his career

Louis

07-23-2006, 12:21 AM

jman3000

07-23-2006, 05:00 PM

I would agree with most opinions about him ... 8/6/1 would sound reasonable for the amount of minutes he's going to get. Then every dozen or so games he'll have a 14/10/3 game and get us talking about his potential and what not.

Buddy Holly

07-23-2006, 05:01 PM

22/15/4 in 11 minutes.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI

07-23-2006, 05:03 PM

I looked at his stats last year, and i don't believe he recorded 10 rebs during any game last year.

Samr

07-23-2006, 05:18 PM

Don't hope for numbers. Hope for impact.

I think we'll see less of the former, but more of the latter.

jman3000

07-23-2006, 05:22 PM

I looked at his stats last year, and i don't believe he recorded 10 rebs during any game last year.

I would assume that on a top notch defensive team like the Spurs, there will be more missed shots, which = more opportunities at defensive rebounds. I don't have the numbers to back me up, but i'm willing to bet NY wasn't near the top in terms of defensive teams.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI

07-23-2006, 05:41 PM

I would assume that on a top notch defensive team like the Spurs, there will be more missed shots, which = more opportunities at defensive rebounds. I don't have the numbers to back me up, but i'm willing to bet NY wasn't near the top in terms of defensive teams.

I'm sure playing for the knicks (Marbury & Francis), there was just as many opportunites for rebounds.

jman3000

07-23-2006, 05:45 PM

I'm sure playing for the knicks (Marbury & Francis), there was just as many opportunites for rebounds.

offensive rebounds are a lot harder to come by than the defensive kind. I'm not saying I think he's gonna average 12 rebounds a game ... in fact I think even if he does get long, consistant minutes he'll still only get around 11 or 12 for a season high. but the opportunities are there for him and as long as he boxes out and stays in good position, his rebound numbers should improve.

exstatic

07-23-2006, 06:06 PM

I looked at his stats last year, and i don't believe he recorded 10 rebs during any game last year.
He averaged 13.5 minutes, and only played more than 30 ONE time.