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diego
07-22-2006, 12:58 PM
I'm curious what kind of expectations people have of Scola and Javotkas to consider if they have a good or bad tournament. I know there are many who discount FIBA performance vs NBA performance, which are admittedly different. On the other hand there is obviously a correlation, or else we wouldnt see NBA players in FIBA games and viceversa.

So what kind of numbers do Spurs fans expect from Scola and Javotkas this WC?

Obviously neither is coming this season, I'm just curious as to what people expect from them in light of the expectations Butler is raising
Bruno
07-22-2006, 01:56 PM
Javtokas has played yesterday and has been owned by Wang Zhizhi :spin

Lithuania 96 - China 75

Javtokas : 7pts/6 rbds/4 fouls/2 blocks in 19 min
ZhiZhi : 24 pts/ 10 rbds
Kori Ellis
07-22-2006, 01:57 PM
Javtokas has played yesterday and has been owned by Wang Zhizhi :spin

Lithuania 96 - China 75

Javtokas : 7pts/6 rbds/4 fouls/2 blocks in 19 min
ZhiZhi : 24 pts/ 10 rbds

:wow
Mr. Body
07-22-2006, 01:57 PM
Guessing ZhiZhi played beaucoup garbage time.
Bruno
07-22-2006, 02:03 PM
Guessing ZhiZhi played beaucoup garbage time.

Guessing wrong.

After the first quarter : China 15 - Lithuania 19
ZhiZhi : 7 pts / 4 rbds in 7 min

At the halftime : China 40 -Lithuania 51
ZhiZhi : 17 pts / 7 rbds in 15 min

Javtokas stats at the halftime : 2 pts / 5 rbds /3 pf in 14 min

Don't forget that it's international BB : 10 min quarters and you foul out at 5 PF.
picnroll
07-22-2006, 02:06 PM
Forget Javtokas. Sign the Wanger. :lol
velik_m
07-22-2006, 02:06 PM
you are asuming they played head to head.
Slinkyman
07-22-2006, 02:09 PM
This is the guy many wanted to start next to duncan? :lol
Bruno
07-22-2006, 02:16 PM
you are asuming they played head to head.

http://www.sigbasket.eu/image.php?id=2711

Don't know if javtokas has played the whole game on ZhiZhi but the PF/Foul against hints that he has played (and fouled) a lot against ZhiZhi
Kori Ellis
07-22-2006, 02:18 PM
Sucks for Robertas that he's struggling. Looks like by that other thread that he's struggling today vs France too.
Mavs_man_41
07-22-2006, 02:28 PM
Javtokas just isnt that good....you all should be happy you were lucky enough to get butler and elson.
Mavs_man_41
07-22-2006, 02:32 PM
Is this game televised?
furry_spurry
07-22-2006, 05:49 PM
And Tony absolutely sucked last summer, too. How much did that tell you about his season?
Bruno
07-22-2006, 05:52 PM
And Tony absolutely sucked last summer, too. How much did that tell you about his season?

Tony was injured last summer.
Burly_Man
07-22-2006, 09:13 PM
You do know these are warm up games. Not taken too seriously in Europe. Check back at the World Championships.

Interesting, the final score is almost a repeat of the 2004 Olympic Quarterfinal (Lithuania 95 China 75).
5ToolMan
07-22-2006, 09:48 PM
Javtokas has played yesterday and has been owned by Wang Zhizhi :spin

Lithuania 96 - China 75

Javtokas : 7pts/6 rbds/4 fouls/2 blocks in 19 min
ZhiZhi : 24 pts/ 10 rbds

You don't get "owned" in hoops when your team wins by 21 and you only have to play 19 minutes!
Bruno
07-23-2006, 03:52 AM
You don't get "owned" in hoops when your team wins by 21 and you only have to play 19 minutes!

RIF, both played heavy minute in the first half while the game was still close.

As I said earlier in this thread :

At the halftime : China 40 -Lithuania 51
ZhiZhi : 17 pts / 7 rbds in 15 min
Javtokas : 2 pts / 5 rbds /3 pf in 14 min
my2sons
07-23-2006, 12:55 PM
it may have carried a little more weight if china wasn't getting dismantled themselves.
furry_spurry
07-23-2006, 12:58 PM
Tony was injured last summer.
I know you understood my point. What a player does with his national team in a few warm-up games is not indicative of how he would play in the NBA.
Bruno
07-23-2006, 01:22 PM
I know you understood my point. What a player does with his national team in a few warm-up games is not indicative of how he would play in the NBA.

I've understand your point but Parker was a quite bad example and I only agree to a certain extend with it.

Does playing poorly in NT warm-up games means you will suck in nba ? No

But a player that plays great with his NT (even for warm up games) has more chance to suceed in nba than a player who plays poorly with his NT. It's not a coincidence if best players for France in this friendly tournament were parker and Diaw.

Warm-up NT games give hints but no answers.
furry_spurry
07-23-2006, 01:31 PM
Does playing poorly in NT warm-up games means you will suck in nba ? No

That was the claim- and we both agree that it is incorrect.
Bruno
07-23-2006, 01:41 PM
That was the claim- and we both agree that it is incorrect.

It wasn't my claim.

my claim is : Javtokas not doing good with his NT (even in warm up games) isn't a good sign that he will doing good in nba.
diego
07-23-2006, 07:56 PM
hehe things getting heated already.

lets ignore the warm up games, so that we can make honest predictions. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Scola will have the better tourney.

He should have something along 16ppg, 5.5rb, 3 ast, 2TO, 55%FG, 25mpg Anything less and I'll be disappointed

I think Javotkas will get 9ppg, 7reb, .8blk and 1TO in 25mpg though i get the feeling i might be a little too optimistic with this.