Gooden To Lakers?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

According to this website (http://www.benmaller.com/#nba_rumors_notes) the trade will be Gooden for Mihm and George. George still hasn't officially signed with the Mavs so this could be a possibiltiy. This is the same website that said the Clips and Nuggets will start the hseason in the other thread.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao it's a link to hoopsworld!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Holy Shit.

[ChumpDumper]

It's ok man -- it's just that the Lakers have been trading for just about every top PF nonstop for the past two years.

[JamStone]

It's my understanding that if you sign-and-trade a player, you cannot package that player with another player to match salaries and consumate the deal. Devean George being a free agent is not the property of the Lakers unless he signs. You cannot sign-and-trade George in a package with Chris Mihm. It would have to be a straight up deal, George for Gooden.

That's how I understand sign-and-trade deals.

[ChumpDumper]

I sure you could do that - remember the Grant Hill trade? Well, everyone signed-and-traded themselves in that one. There were existing salaries in the Hedo/Ferry/Mercer/Miller deal; Miller was the only guy who S&T'd

[JamStone]

Grant Hill wasn't packaged with anyone. The other side of the trade was Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins. They were both under contract. That's the difference.

And, for Brad Miller, same thing. He was signed-and-traded, but he wasn't packaged with anyone from the Pacers. I'm talking about players who are being signed-and-traded, not what they get in return.

[ChumpDumper]

I thought Ben and Chucky were S&T'd as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Anyway, Darrell Armstrong just got S&T'd to Indiana with two other players, so :p

[JamStone]

Darrell Armstrong had one year left on his contract at a team option.

[ChumpDumper]

You might want to tell the Mavericks about that.

The Dallas Mavericks announced today that they have signed and traded guard Darrell Armstrong to the Indiana Pacers for guard Anthony Johnson. Forward Josh Powell and guard/forward Rawle Marshall and were also included in the deal to Indiana.

http://www.nba.com/mavericks/news/mavs_trade072406.html

[JamStone]

Yeah, I should tell them. Curious, but ok. Sometime, I'll get into the CBA and try to find where the rules for S&T are. I'll try to find what I'm talking about.

Because you gotta think, Armstrong would have to agree to the sign-and-trade. And, would he have? Haven't reports basically stated the Pacers aren't going to be keeping Armstrong? Why would you agree to that if you're Armstrong?

[ChumpDumper]

Armstrong was quoted as saying he was doing what was best for his family, so I imagine he is getting some guaranteed money out of the deal even if he gets bought out and waived. If anyone still wants him after that, there's another million in his pocket.

[Sportcamper]

Devean is not under contract to the Lakers...
Mihm just had his 2nd knee surgery last week....

I have no idea who Gooden is...Does he play basketball or is he a trainer...Because the Lakers are in need of Doctors & trainers more than anything... :smokin

[mabber]

Armstrong was quoted as saying he was doing what was best for his family, so I imagine he is getting some guaranteed money out of the deal even if he gets bought out and waived. If anyone still wants him after that, there's another million in his pocket.

Everything that I've read, points toward the Pacers keeping Armstrong and waiving Powell & Marshall. Armstrong is a good locker room guy and if the Pacers can live with him being the #3 point guard then I'm sure Bird would like him around. Anthony Johnson said that a change was needed in the culture & attitudes of that team. And, supposedly, Croshere & AJ were two of the "good" guys to have around so Armstrong might be needed.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm a little surprised they are keeping Armstrong, but as long as they stay under the tax threshold, it makes sense.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Devean is not under contract to the Lakers...
Mihm just had his 2nd knee surgery last week....

I have no idea who Gooden is...Does he play basketball or is he a trainer...Because the Lakers are in need of Doctors & trainers more than anything... :smokin
If you don't know who Gooden is, I'm amazed you know who Mihm and George is.

[Sportcamper]

Now that I have amazed you....Can you please tell me what a “Gooden” is?

[G-Money]

I thought the idea of rebuilding a team was to make them better. :rolleyes