San Antonio Spurs 2006-2007 Season Schedule

[spurschick]

The NBA is starting to release schedules.
http://www.nba.com/news/schedule_index_060801.html

San Antonio Spurs 2006-2007

November
2 @ Dallas
3 vs. Cleveland
5 @ Toronto
6 @ New York
8 vs. Phoenix
11 vs. New York
14 @ Houston
15 vs. Charlotte
17 vs. Chicago
19 @ Sacramento
20 @ Portland
22 vs. Miami
24 vs. Dallas
26 @ Seattle
27 @ Golden State
29 @ Utah

December
2 vs. Sacramento
4 vs. Golden State
6 @ Charlotte
8 vs. Clippers
10 @ Lakers
11 @ Clippers
13 vs. Minnesota
14 @ New Orleans (in NO)
16 vs. Philadelphia
20 vs. Memphis
22 vs. Houston
23 @ New Orleans (in OK City)
26 vs. Milwaukee
28 vs. Utah
31 vs. Atlanta

January
2 @ Cleveland
3 @ Minnesota
5 vs. Dallas
7 @ Memphis
9 vs. Portland
10 @ Denver
13 vs. Washington
15 @ Chicago
17 vs. Lakers
19 vs. New Orleans
21 @ Philadelphia
22 @ Boston
24 vs. Houston
26 vs. Memphis
28 @ Lakers
31 @ Utah

February
1 @ Phoenix
7 @ Washington
9 @ Orlando
11 @ Miami
13 @ New Jersey
14 @ Detroit
20 vs. Denver
21 @ Atlanta
24 vs. Seattle
26 vs. Toronto

March
2 vs. Orlando
3 @ Houston
5 @ Clippers
6 @ Portland
8 @ Sacramento
10 vs. New Jersey
13 vs. Clippers
15 @ Milwaukee
17 vs. Boston
21 vs. Indiana
23 vs. Detroit
25 @ Seattle
26 @ Golden State
28 vs. New Orleans
30 vs. Utah

April
1 @ Indiana
3 vs. Seattle
5 vs. Phoenix
7 vs. Golden State
9 vs. Portland
11 vs. Sacramento
13 @ Minnesota
15 @ Dallas
16 @ Memphis
18 vs. Denver

[GrandeDavid]

FINALLY the Spurs open the season with a tough road game. Not that its really a big deal, but looks like they should start 0-1, although this early in an NBA season anything can happen. Still, I pick the Spurs to win the DCC (Division, Conference, Crown).

[Kori Ellis]

Back-to-back to opening the season is going to be fun :)

[Kori Ellis]

Home games will now tipoff at 7:00 and not 7:30.

That's a big change.

[Kori Ellis]

The San Antonio Spurs open the 2006-07 season on Thursday, November 2 with a Western Conference semifinals rematch against the Mavericks in Dallas.

San Antonio will be tipping off its home games at a new time for the upcoming season. Spurs games will now start at 7:00 p.m. as opposed to 7:30 p.m. in the past.

“With the feedback we received from our fanbase, we will be moving our tipoff time to 7 o’clock,” said Spurs Executive Vice President of Business Operations Russ Bookbinder. “We want to make our games as family friendly as possible and by moving the start time up we hope to allow more children the opportunity to attend.”

The Spurs home opener will be November 3 when LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers invade the Alamo City. San Antonio will take on each Western Conference team four times with the exception of Denver, the Los Angeles Lakers, Minnesota and Phoenix, whom they play three times. The Spurs will take on each Eastern Conference opponent twice.

All 82 regular season Spurs games during the 2006-07 season will be broadcast on radio in both English, on WOAI-AM 1200, and Spanish, on KCOR-AM 1350. San Antonio’s television schedule and partners will be announced the first week of September.

Tickets for the San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 regular season will go on sale to the public Saturday, October 21, at 10:00 a.m.

[picnroll]

17 back to backs but only 1 in April. Of first 16 games 10 are back to back.

[GrandeDavid]

Pretty tough rodeo road trip.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

T San Antonio will take on each Western Conference team four times with the exception of Denver, the Los Angeles Lakers, Minnesota and Phoenix, whom they play three times. The Spurs will take on each Eastern Conference opponent twice.
That's pretty good, 1 less game against 3 playoff teams and a potentially improved timberwolf team.

[angel_luv]

San Antonio Spurs 2006-2007

November
2 @ Dallas- Season Opener :fro

5 @ Toronto Sho! :spin
6 @ New York Malik :)
8 vs. Phoenix Kiwi :)
11 vs. New York Malik :)

February
1 @ Phoenix Kiwi :)

9 @ Orlando Hedo :)

26 vs. Toronto Sho!!!!!!!!!!!! :elephant

March
2 vs. Orlando Hedo :)
April

5 vs. Phoenix Kiwi :)


Now I know which days I can't wait for. :D

[waly.mg]

Back to back first, followed by Back to back on the road next

[Mavs_man_41]

Too bad you guys will have to start off the wrong way..... :spin

[SpursWoman]

There are 3 Sunday games in November and December 10th also ...


*ahem*softball*ahem*

:fro

[angel_luv]

Home games will now tipoff at 7:00 and not 7:30.

That's a big change.


It is... I am trying to decide if I like it or no, especially since I will probably be attempting to work two jobs ( Terrace Club and somewhere else) again.
Scheduling will be interesting.

[angel_luv]

There are 3 Sunday games in November ...


*ahem*softball*ahem*

:fro


When was the last time we had three Sunday games in a season much lessa month. Wow. :lol

[Kori Ellis]

There are 3 Sunday games in November ...


*ahem*softball*ahem*

:fro

They are all road until the one on Dec 31, which is the only Sunday home game all season.

[SpursWoman]

Well that's good, then. :)

[goliath]

Tough rodeo road trip this year.

Lakers, Suns, Wiz, Heat, Nets and Pistons will all be tough wins on the trip

[waly.mg]

vs Phoenix: 2 Home and 1 Away: Excelent for Head to Head
vs Denver: 2 Home and 1 away: Excelent, the "Cryman" Karl only one time on the road
vs Lakers: 1 Home and 2 Away: Finally we can´t finished 4-0 vs Lakers, this time 3-0
vs Minnesota: 1 Home and 2 Away: KG only one time in SA

[Leetonidas]

5 back-to-backs in the first month? Yowza.

[waly.mg]

Tough rodeo road trip this year.

Lakers, Suns, Wiz, Heat, Nets and Pistons will all be tough wins on the trip

But is better a road in Cirties like LA, Miami, Orlando, Whashington, NJ and Detroit than in Seattle, Portland or Utah

Probably we can finished only 6-3, but is more Funny

[Kori Ellis]

Are the Spurs still going to France for training camp?

[mabber]

Spurs @ Mavs in last week of season (Sunday, April 15th...noon). Might be big game.

[angel_luv]

They are all road until the one on Dec 31, which is the only Sunday home game all season.


New Year's Eve game... now that is my idea of a party. :D

[kolko]

Are the Spurs still going to France for training camp?
Yes:



October 5: San Antonio vs. Adecco Asvel (Lyon, France)

October 8: San Antonio vs. Maccabi Elite (Paris, France)

http://www.nba.com/features/2006-07_dates_060801.html

[spurschick]

Are the Spurs still going to France for training camp?

They leave Oct. 1, arrive Oct. 2 in France. They leave for the US on Oct. 9.

[spurschick]

New Year's Eve game... now that is my idea of a party. :D

It's at 2:30 in the afternoon.
:drunk

[angel_luv]

It's at 2:30 in the afternoon.
:drunk

Oh! :lol

Well the guys had better win and not spoil the evening. :)

[Kori Ellis]

It is... I am trying to decide if I like it or no, especially since I will probably be attempting to work two jobs ( Terrace Club and somewhere else) again.
Scheduling will be interesting.

I don't like it. Traffic will be worse for us 30 minutes earlier.

[degenerate_gambler]

It's at 2:30 in the afternoon.
:drunk


And only one bowl game that day and it's at night...the MPC Computers Bowl (whatever the hell that is).

[hero03msu]

The Spurs start the season with a 4 in 5 nights (a small break considering it is right out of the blocks). But they have a total of 3 four in five nighters during the season. And a total of 18 back to back games.

The Mavs have only 15 back to back games.
And only 1 four in 5 nighter.

If my initial math is right a very nice break for the Mavs.

[angel_luv]

I don't like it. Traffic will be worse for us 30 minutes earlier.



Oh yea. You will be travelling in the worst of it. That really is no good.

[Solid D]

It's kind of nice to see the Spurs have Christmas eve and Christmas day off.

It's also good for those who like to give Spurs' game tickets as Christmas presents. There are 3 straight home games, probably home Wins, within 6 days after Christmas, for those with family and friends in for the week leading up to New Years Day.

Milwaukee Bucks on 12/26 (Tuesday)
Utah Jazz on 12/28 (Thursday)
Atlanta on 12/31 (Sunday)

[BigVee]

I don't like it. Traffic will be worse for us 30 minutes earlier.

Well, this sucks on the west coast. As it is now, if all is well with traffic, I get home about 5:30...game usually starts at 5:39. Now the games will start at 5:09 and I will miss the first quarter of most home games. Shit. I know no one else cares but, shit. Kori, with your pull, why don't you see if you can get this changed?

[Kori Ellis]

Well, this sucks on the west coast. As it is now, if all is well with traffic, I get home about 5:30...game usually starts at 5:39. Now the games will start at 5:09 and I will miss the first quarter of most home games. Shit. I know no one else cares but, shit. Kori, with your pull, why don't you see if you can get this changed?

I would rather the games be at 8:30pm than 7:00pm but I guess the Spurs don't agree.

If I had the pull, I'd change it for me and you :lol

[Slomo]

From a totally selfish point of view I like 7pm better. For some reason I find it easier to watch the game at 2 am :lol

Now all I have to do is to find a way to actually see the game :( :lol

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Spurs @ Rockets- Nov. 14 and Mar. 3. Any plans for a repeat of last year's road trip?

[angel_luv]

From a totally selfish point of view I like 7pm better. For some reason I find it easier to watch the game at 2 am :lol

Now all I have to do is to find a way to actually see the game :( :lol


Too bad you can't be a Winter Texan. That would be cool if you lived here half of the year. :)

[Slomo]

Too bad you can't be a Winter Texan. That would be cool if you lived here half of the year. :)That a good idea, now all I need is a job in SA that'll keep me and my family comfortable and pay for a couple of lower level season tickets :lol

[angel_luv]

That a good idea, now all I need is a job in SA that'll keep me and my family comfortable and pay for a couple of lower level season tickets :lol

Maybe you could house sit for Beno when he is on the road? :lol
At any rate, checking out the job market sounds like a good excuse to come for a visit. :)

[Willinsa]

I am not a fan of 7pm games, I also like how those Co**suckers at ABC only have us on 3 times. All are on the road.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

None of the games that are back-to-back are both at home. They are either both road, road then home, or home then road.

[FromWayDowntown]

I am not a fan of 7pm games, I also like how those Co**suckers at ABC only have us on 3 times. All are on the road.

If the Spurs reach the Finals, ABC exposure won't be a problem at all.

[spurschick]

Spurs @ Rockets- Nov. 14 and Mar. 3. Any plans for a repeat of last year's road trip?

I'm totally up for that. I'd even be up for a trip to Dallas.

[angel_luv]

Spurs @ Rockets- Nov. 14 and Mar. 3. Any plans for a repeat of last year's road trip?


Isn't this your year to make the trip down? :)

Maybe we can come to you and you can come to us.




I'm totally up for that. I'd even be up for a trip to Dallas.


I saw that one of our last games of the year is at Dallas...

[reydawg]

But is better a road in Cirties like LA, Miami, Orlando, Whashington, NJ and Detroit than in Seattle, Portland or Utah

Probably we can finished only 6-3, but is more Funny

?

[sprrs]

The 8 game road trip looks like it could be tough. Hopefully they'll hit their stride right about then. :blah

[Spurologist]

Back to back forum

[sa_butta]

I don't like it. Traffic will be worse for us 30 minutes earlier.Thats what I was thinking, most people get off work around 5p then want to go home and change and pick up the family. That will be tight with traffic.

[spurschick]

I'm actually much happier with the game starting earlier. I can go straight from work and get home early enough to still catch a good amount of zzzzzz before the alarm goes off in the morning.

As for the schedule, let's face it... there are no easy wins anymore. Almost any team can win at any time, which really makes it more interesting. While there may be some teams that smoke the regular season, i.e. Detroit, nothing guarantees a trip to the finals.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What's with all the 4 games in 5 nights shit? Six months to work with for a schedule and 12 of the Spurs games will be played in 4/5 nights marathons.

Lame.

[Solid D]

I agree with Grande David and the others regarding this pivotal 8-game Rodeo Road Trip, but the 9 games following the RRT, make this a very challenging, if not tiring stretch with all the back-to-backs. All of the 2nd games of the b2bs during this stretch are on the road.

1/28 @ Lakers
1/31 @ Utah
2/1 @ Phoenix (2nd of b2b)
2/7 @ Washington
2/9 @ Orlando
2/11 @ Miami
2/13 @ New Jersey
2/14 @ Detroit (2nd of b2b)
2/18 All Star Game Las Vegas
2/20 vs. Denver
2/21 @ Atlanta (2nd of b2b)
2/24 vs. Seattle
2/26 vs. Toronto

3/2 vs. Orlando
3/3 @ Houston (2nd of b2b)
5 @ Clippers
6 @ Portland (2nd of b2b)
8 @ Sacramento

[spurschick]

This block is my favorite:

December
10 @ Lakers
11 @ Clippers
13 vs. Minnesota
14 @ New Orleans (in NO)

[kellog]

I am a fan from Orlando...last year i got to see them in December..how am I going to wait until Feb? Still better then having to wait untill March or April! Thanks for the Schedule!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Pretty tough rodeo road trip.

No fucking kidding...got damn, that's a tough Rodeo Roadtrip.

[NBA Junkie]

How predictable that the Spurs fail to make the maximum amount of appearances on all three of the major networks this season.

[1Parker1]

:elephant Jan 21st, @ Philadelphia!!

Oh, and I kind of like the new 7:00pm tip-off...means I can get to bed earlier :)

[boutons_]

5 B2Bs.

1 4G in 5 days

7 home, 9 road.

MIA, 2 x DAL, CLE, PHX, CHI, SAC = 7 playoff teams in 16G in November.

Pop will be fucking around with Centers (neither of whom will have a clue to Spurs system, one of which is a loser in any case), weird-ass substitutions, giving PT to JV and MB to see if they pan out.

I don't think it's unrealistic to see the slow-starting Spurs/Tim, going 9-7 or 8-8 in a tough November.

[shelshor]

Spurs @ Mavs in last week of season (Sunday, April 15th...noon). Might be big game.
Great--the Mavs in Dallas on Income Tax Day--I'll be in a perfect mood

[mabber]

Great--the Mavs in Dallas on Income Tax Day--I'll be in a perfect mood

Tax day would actually be on Monday, April 16th but I get the point.

[furry_spurry]

I'm actually much happier with the game starting earlier. I can go straight from work and get home early enough to still catch a good amount of zzzzzz before the alarm goes off in the morning.

The game time is awful-- awful-- and benefits ONLY those people who go straight from work to the games. Anyone who has to go home- who has to pick their kids up from child care- who lives farther out- will NEVER make it to the game by 7PM. The claim that it will encourage people to take their kids is bogus- because those parents who care that their kids get into bed on time will still not benefit from a game that gets over at 9:30 PM instead of 10 PM. It is still too late for school kids to get to bed. It is meant to benefit corporate people.



And for you who want to whine about the schedule- how about playing 19 road games (46% of the total) in November and December.

[spurschick]

It is meant to benefit corporate people.

It's an NBA wide thing - a lot of teams made their games earlier. From what I understand, it was from feedback they got from season ticket holders who said that they would buy more ticket packages to include their kids if the games didn't go so late.

[furry_spurry]

Well the people I know are NOT part of that group. They are pissed. They are the people with thousands of dollars worth of tickets who will never make it to a game on time and believe they should have been told this BEFORE they renewed and laid down a lot of money. Try getting off work at 6- driving home to Boerne- getting your kids settled in with the sitter- and back to the AT&T Center by 7.

[spurschick]

Well the people I know are NOT part of that group. They are pissed. They are the people with thousands of dollars worth of tickets who will never make it to a game on time and believe they should have been told this BEFORE they renewed and laid down a lot of money.

Then they should call and get their money back.

[furry_spurry]

Then they should call and get their money back.
And what if they were told NOOOOOOO.

[spurschick]

And what if they were told NOOOOOOO.

Then they could probably go to small claims court. If you can prove that the games were at 7:30pm since they've been season ticket holders, which wouldn't be too difficult, and then prove that the time change, which you were unaware of when they renewed, will majorly affect their ability to attend, I'd say that's enough for a judge to rule in your favor. I doubt it would even get that far - you would probably get your money back before the claim even got filed.

[mabber]

Well the people I know are NOT part of that group. They are pissed. They are the people with thousands of dollars worth of tickets who will never make it to a game on time and believe they should have been told this BEFORE they renewed and laid down a lot of money. Try getting off work at 6- driving home to Boerne- getting your kids settled in with the sitter- and back to the AT&T Center by 7.

I would think that the # of season ticketholders who can't leave 30 minutes earlier from work on the 35 or so 7pm games (I'm assuming 6 Sunday day games) is minimal. I could be wrong, but I would think that if you can afford season tickets you probably have the type of job where you're not punching a clock and can leave a little earlier on game days.

[spurschick]

I could be wrong, but I would think that if you can afford season tickets you probably have the type of job where you're not punching a clock and can leave a little earlier on game days.

You don't have to be rich to buy season tickets, although that's easy to assume I guess. A lot of people go in on season tickets and split the games up. Also, season tickets in the upper balcony won't completely break the bank.

Considering that the research and feedback shows that it was people with families that asked for the change, it seems like there are quite a few in the same category that don't like it at all.

[mabber]

You don't have to be rich to buy season tickets, although that's easy to assume I guess. A lot of people go in on season tickets and split the games up. Also, season tickets in the upper balcony won't completely break the bank.

Considering that the research and feedback shows that it was people with families that asked for the change, it seems like there are quite a few in the same category that don't like it at all.

You don't have to be rich to have a job that's very flexible in hours either. I really don't know anyone that this would cause a problem for and I certainly don't know any rich people. But like I said earlier, I could be wrong. I'm just trying to look at this from the league (Spurs) side and they would never come out and actually say they're not to worried about the season ticket holders that this would effect negatively. Of course, they're going to spin in the positive that the change was a response to the child factor. I have no doubt that plenty of research has been done and this will make them more money. You just can't make everyone happy and the some of the people not happy now have changed.

[furry_spurry]

Once again- missing the point. If you are going to change the game time, tell the people BEFORE they hand over their thousands of dollars. If you want to cater to a certain group, then so be it, but the "other" groups have the right to know of the change and not to waste their money. Everyone I have spoken to requested that the game times stay the same.

The Spurs already created the 10 game weekend packs for this purpose. The weeknight games are going to be a problem. Ever go to a 7:00 game because it's on ESPN or the early game on TNT-- Dead the whole first quarter.

As for kids, they belong in bed long before 10:00 which is what time you will get home from a 7:00 game at the earliest. Don't see how it helps.


I would think that if you can afford season tickets you probably have the type of job where you're not punching a clock and can leave a little earlier on game days.
I'll tell that to everyone I know with season tickets about how they can leave work early whenever they want! They'll be glad to hear that.

[spurschick]

Once again- missing the point. If you are going to change the game time, tell the people BEFORE they hand over their thousands of dollars.

You're assuming that most teams knew they were going to change the game times way back in the Spring, when they start sending letters to season ticket holders to renew. While the schedule has been done for a few months, they only just recently decided the times.

Like I said, if someone is THAT pissed off and won't be able to attend a lot of the games, I'm sure they can find a way to get their money back. OR, they could put most of their tickets on ticket exchange for an unlimited price and make more than their money back.

[furry_spurry]

You're assuming that most teams knew they were going to change the game times way back in the Spring, when they start sending letters to season ticket holders to renew. While the schedule has been done for a few months, they only just recently decided the times.

Like I said, if someone is THAT pissed off and won't be able to attend a lot of the games, I'm sure they can find a way to get their money back. OR, they could put most of their tickets on ticket exchange for an unlimited price and make more than their money back.

As for changing times- Dallas and Houston did not. Their games still start at 7:30 PM.

As for the ticket exchange, another misleading piece of info. A LOT of people could not sell tickets they wanted to last season and that was just at face value. I know people who couldn't even sell some PLAY-OFF games at face value on there.

[mabber]

As for changing times- Dallas and Houston did not. Their games still start at 7:30 PM.

As for the ticket exchange, another misleading piece of info. A LOT of people could not sell tickets they wanted to last season and that was just at face value. I know people who couldn't even sell some PLAY-OFF games at face value on there.

I can sell most of my Mav tickets on EBay at above face value w/o a problem. I sell a few games (that I can't make) a year and have never sold for below face. I could make a killing if I sold my playoff tickets as they always go for well above face. I guess it's different for Spur games.

[spurschick]

As for changing times- Dallas and Houston did not. Their games still start at 7:30 PM.

As for the ticket exchange, another misleading piece of info. A LOT of people could not sell tickets they wanted to last season and that was just at face value. I know people who couldn't even sell some PLAY-OFF games at face value on there.

I'm sure there are some games that you wouldn't be able to sell, but some of the marquis games you could sell at triple or quadruple their value and it would even out.

That being said, it sounds like you are going to be pissed off at this situation regardless and know a LOT of people who feel the same and there isn't anything positive I can say or any suggestion I can offer you that will make you happy.

[furry_spurry]

You'd be pissed, too, if you spent thousands of dollars on tickets to games of which you can only get to a few on time. When the season tickets run close to $5000 apiece, and you have 4 of them, you tend to want your money's worth.

[leemajors]

toronto fan with spurs season tix?

[FromWayDowntown]

You'd be pissed, too, if you spent thousands of dollars on tickets to games of which you can only get to a few on time. When the season tickets run close to $5000 apiece, and you have 4 of them, you tend to want your money's worth.

Is there anything that the Spurs do that ever makes you happy? Seriously -- all I read from you is a bunch of complaining about what the Spurs haven't done or how badly they're doing things.

You make this sound like some sort of fraud on the part of the Spurs. Frankly, that's patently ridiculous. According to spurschick, they got feedback that indicated to them that earlier start times would be received well. That wouldn't be terribly surprising -- seven o'clock local isn't a terribly unusual start time for NBA teams; at least 18 other franchises use 7 local as their general starting time (Atlanta, Charlotte, Cleveland, Denver, Indiana, Memphis, Milwaukee, Minnesota, New Orleans/OKC, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento, Seattle, Toronto, Utah, Washington).

I'd doubt seriously that the Spurs made the decision to change start times many months ago, before starting the renewal process; I don't bring the same cynicism about Spurs management that you have and so I'm convinced that this decision was made recently, after allowing fans an opportunity to voice opinions. As for myself, I didn't renew my tickets on the promise that the game times would remain invoilate or were never subject to change -- indeed, every ticket that the Spurs issue has a disclaimer saying that the game time is always subject to change.

If you're unhappy with the time change there are solutions. I'd be shocked if the Spurs refused to refund your money or refused to accommodate you in finding a smaller package if you voiced a concern that the time change would have such a prohibitive affect on your ability to attend games. If they refuse to do so, you have the recourse of either: (1) seeking a legal remedy somehow; or (2) selling the tickets to the games you can't attend and recouping whatever losses you believe you've sustained.

I've talked to other season ticket holders too about the time change and haven't noticed any great upheaval from any of them about that decision. It will change the processes by which they make arrangements to get to games, but I think most are pleased that they'll be able to get home a bit earlier on game nights than they have in previous years.

As always, it's a question of serving the greatest good; if the Spurs are wrong and the majority of season ticket holders are like you in hating this decision, they'll pay for it somehow -- maybe they'll even revert back to 7:30 start times next season. They must, however, have reason to believe that you're in the minority and that this decision will be more widely seen as good than bad. Whatever it is, it's certainly not nefarious or based on ill-will.

[LEONARD]

After an 0-2 start, Spurstalk will be chaos... :fro

[mabber]

Is there anything that the Spurs do that ever makes you happy? Seriously -- all I read from you is a bunch of complaining about what the Spurs haven't done or how badly they're doing things.

You make this sound like some sort of fraud on the part of the Spurs. Frankly, that's patently ridiculous. According to spurschick, they got feedback that indicated to them that earlier start times would be received well. That wouldn't be terribly surprising -- seven o'clock local isn't a terribly unusual start time for NBA teams; at least 18 other franchises use 7 local as their general starting time (Atlanta, Charlotte, Cleveland, Denver, Indiana, Memphis, Milwaukee, Minnesota, New Orleans/OKC, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento, Seattle, Toronto, Utah, Washington).

I'd doubt seriously that the Spurs made the decision to change start times many months ago, before starting the renewal process; I don't bring the same cynicism about Spurs management that you have and so I'm convinced that this decision was made recently, after allowing fans an opportunity to voice opinions. As for myself, I didn't renew my tickets on the promise that the game times would remain invoilate or were never subject to change -- indeed, every ticket that the Spurs issue has a disclaimer saying that the game time is always subject to change.

If you're unhappy with the time change there are solutions. I'd be shocked if the Spurs refused to refund your money or refused to accommodate you in finding a smaller package if you voiced a concern that the time change would have such a prohibitive affect on your ability to attend games. If they refuse to do so, you have the recourse of either: (1) seeking a legal remedy somehow; or (2) selling the tickets to the games you can't attend and recouping whatever losses you believe you've sustained.

I've talked to other season ticket holders too about the time change and haven't noticed any great upheaval from any of them about that decision. It will change the processes by which they make arrangements to get to games, but I think most are pleased that they'll be able to get home a bit earlier on game nights than they have in previous years.

As always, it's a question of serving the greatest good; if the Spurs are wrong and the majority of season ticket holders are like you in hating this decision, they'll pay for it somehow -- maybe they'll even revert back to 7:30 start times next season. They must, however, have reason to believe that you're in the minority and that this decision will be more widely seen as good than bad. Whatever it is, it's certainly not nefarious or based on ill-will.

Well said.

[FromWayDowntown]

After an 0-2 start, Spurstalk will be chaos... :fro

just like it was in 1999 when the Spurs were 6-8 after 14 games (well, like it would have been) . . . and just like it would have been in 2003 when the Spurs were 14-10 in mid-December . . . and just like it was in 2004 when the Spurs were 9-10 . . . .

sigh

[furry_spurry]

If you're unhappy with the time change there are solutions. I'd be shocked if the Spurs refused to refund your money or refused to accommodate you in finding a smaller package if you voiced a concern that the time change would have such a prohibitive affect on your ability to attend games.

Then you believe wrong.

I have already been turned down twice this summer for two different reasons that I made this request. And people wonder why I have the opinion that I do.

[boutons_]

"just like it was in 2004 when the Spurs were 9-10"

WTF?

In 2004, at 19 games, the Spurs were: 16-3.

[FromWayDowntown]

"just like it was in 2004 when the Spurs were 9-10"

WTF?

In 2004, at 19 games, the Spurs were: 16-3.

My bad, I meant in the 2003-04 season, not the 2004-05 season. You got me for poor usage.

[boutons_]

2003: 11-8

[spurschick]

Then you believe wrong.

I have already been turned down twice this summer for two different reasons that I made this request. And people wonder why I have the opinion that I do.

Then take legal action. If you're able to afford a $5,000 per ticket price, I'm sure you have a good lawyer.

[furry_spurry]

Then take legal action. If you're able to afford a $5,000 per ticket price, I'm sure you have a good lawyer.
As a matter of fact, I keep one on retainer. I just think that shouldn't be necessary.

See, it's about expectations. Certain entities you expect better from. The more they use their PR machine to build up their public reputation of being a certain way, the greater the disdain for them when the truth is discovered.

[FromWayDowntown]

2003: 11-8

Damn -- why are you in such a fit about this?

In 1998-99, after 14 games, the Spurs were 6-8 and Spurs fans were in an uproar. (the Spurs won the title)

In 2002-03, after 24 games, the Spurs were 14-10 and Spurs fans were in an uproar. (the Spurs won the title)

In 2003-04, after 19 games, the Spurs were 9-10 and Spurs fans were in an uproar. (the Spurs were perilously close to knocking off the LA All-Stars and perhaps making a repeat appearance in the Finals)

If, as Leonard postulates, the Spurs start out 2006-07 with 2 straight losses, Spurs fans will be in an uproar. It won't be the first time, but it would hardly be a death knell, either.

[FromWayDowntown]

As a matter of fact, I keep one on retainer. I just think that shouldn't be necessary.

See, it's about expectations. Certain entities you expect better from. The more they use their PR machine to build up their public reputation of being a certain way, the greater the disdain for them when the truth is discovered.

Frankly, I can see why they might not refund your purchase. The tickets are generally sold on a non-refundable basis and I can see where that might apply even to tickets that haven't yet been issued. They could certainly argue that they've afforded the means to convey those tickets to others for at least face value, which means that they've allowed a basis for mitigating any damages.

As for accommodation (as opposed to refund) I'll take you at your word on the unwillingness to find you a more suitable package, though I'd be surprised about such an unwillingness if your express reason for seeking that change had anything to do with previously-unannounced time changes; I could see that they'd be unwilling to help you out if the basis for seeking that change had something to do with dissatisfaction about personnel decisions or some other personal concern. I'm not meaning to imply that I think you've ever articulated that as a basis for wanting to change; I'm just hypothesizing reasons for rejecting such an effort.

In the end, you choose to see Spurs management as somehow untruthful in their dealings with you. I would imagine that even the decisions on their part that you're now lamenting are fairly common practices in the industry. I know that in my dealings with them, the Spurs have always been reasonable and truthful; management has done some things for me and my family that were never contemplated by any of the various agreements we reach with them in the course of purchasing tickets and participating in the events that they provide. It's rather difficult for me to even imagine reaching your level of cynicism.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe you can transfer the tickets to the Air Canada Centre.

[mabber]

Maybe you can transfer the tickets to the Air Canada Centre.

:lol

[spurschick]

As a matter of fact, I keep one on retainer. I just think that shouldn't be necessary.

See, it's about expectations. Certain entities you expect better from. The more they use their PR machine to build up their public reputation of being a certain way, the greater the disdain for them when the truth is discovered.

Oh please. It's been stated over and over that they didn't make this decision when they were asking people to renew. It also clearly states that times my change.

Maybe one of the reasons that they couldn't accommodate you with another ticket package is because they are about 92% sold out for the season. I've actually been trying to move up and pay them more money, but there is nothing available right now.

If you're that down on the organization, sell as many of your tickets as you can and don't renew next year.

[furry_spurry]

They can sell you mine. :lol

[50 cent]

furry spurry is a whiny bitch. I'm pretty sure every ticket from every sporting event in the country has a disclaimer that times are subject to change.

[spurs=bling]

i want to go see the Nov 22 game.

[ducks]

I like the back to backs earlier but man alot of games on short rest
atleast manu will be rested then some
I would rather have the back to backs before the allstar break then after

[veronicamae]

they're idiots for making the starting time be 7:00. traffic is already bad when people need to leave for the games (now it'll have to be 6:00-ish) and now rush hour traffic is in the mix WITH spurs traffic. really not looking forward to dealing with that every other night.

*annoyed*

[101A]

Then they could probably go to small claims court.

Since when is 20 grand small claims?

[SpursWoman]

Since when is 20 grand small claims?


About the same time it becomes hard to get a refund on your tickets when there is a waiting list a mile long for lower level seats and they'd have no problem with the re-sale. :spin

[furry_spurry]

About the same time it becomes hard to get a refund on your tickets when there is a waiting list a mile long for lower level seats and they'd have no problem with the re-sale. :spin
I know where there has been an empty seat in a great location for two seasons on the lower level that has not been sold as a season ticket. And they've tried to sell it to the people who have the seats on either side with no luck. Sometimes someone buys it as a ticket for a particular game but often it just sits empty-- even when they claim there is a sell-out. :lol

There are also RIGHT NOW mini-packs seats on the lower level if you just know who to ask.

[furry_spurry]

they're idiots for making the starting time be 7:00. traffic is already bad when people need to leave for the games (now it'll have to be 6:00-ish) and now rush hour traffic is in the mix WITH spurs traffic. really not looking forward to dealing with that every other night.

*annoyed*
See- I'm not the only one. I know FOR A FACT that the Spurs have gotten both negative and positive feedback from season ticket holders, and there are people who work for the Spurs who agree wth my major premise-- this decision should have been made before renewals were solicited. If they are that ineffectual to make a timely decision, they should have waited to make the change the following season when people have appropriate information to use to make a decision.

[furry_spurry]

oops!

[ChumpDumper]

I agree the start time is silly. I think they'll change it back midseason when they find out how much less food and beer they'll sell since folks can't hang out a bit before the game.

[Drive Like Jehu]

I understand it may be more difficult to get to the game on time. But, I think the earlier start time is more family friendly for those who attend the game and watch it on TV.

[SpursWoman]

30 minutes is a very insignificant period of time to make any markable difference in getting your kids home & to bed ... but 30 minutes makes a HUGE difference in the amount of traffic on the road when you're trying to get there.

[spurschick]

See- I'm not the only one. I know FOR A FACT that the Spurs have gotten both negative and positive feedback from season ticket holders, and there are people who work for the Spurs who agree wth my major premise-- this decision should have been made before renewals were solicited. If they are that ineffectual to make a timely decision, they should have waited to make the change the following season when people have appropriate information to use to make a decision.

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! WE GET IT! YOU'RE PISSED OFF, YOU'RE RICH AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE! Continually bitching about the time change in this forum is NOT going to get the schedule changed! Call your fucking lawyer already!

[mabber]

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! WE GET IT! YOU'RE PISSED OFF, YOU'RE RICH AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE! Continually bitching about the time change in this forum is NOT going to get the schedule changed! Call your fucking lawyer already!

:lol :lol :lol

[mabber]

30 minutes is a very insignificant period of time to make any markable difference in getting your kids home & to bed ... but 30 minutes makes a HUGE difference in the amount of traffic on the road when you're trying to get there.

I was unaware that San Antonio had bad traffic? I figured that was one of the pro's to living there compared to Houston or Dallas (where traffic blows!).

[sabar]

The time change is aimed at TV watchers and being more family friendly.

Unfortunately, the people that go to watch the game are in the extreme minority of the overall fanbase. Many times the people will be watching at home and they will change times to fit the majority.

I'm sure if there are enough complaints it could change. Furry might want to stir up some drama where it actually would make a difference instead of trashing the Spurs organization at ever turn here.

[ducks]

why do we play the suns only 3 times again?

[SpursWoman]

I was unaware that San Antonio had bad traffic? I figured that was one of the pro's to living there compared to Houston or Dallas (where traffic blows!).


There are certain areas of town that are HORRENDOUS....our metro does have well over 1,000,000 these days.

[/BH] :lol

[phxspurfan]

we play the suns 3 times because we will play them at least 5 more times come april...

[furry_spurry]

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! WE GET IT! YOU'RE PISSED OFF, YOU'RE RICH AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE! Continually bitching about the time change in this forum is NOT going to get the schedule changed! Call your fucking lawyer already!
Can't handle that other people have come in here and agreed with me?? Where is your response to all of their comments.

I stayed out of this thread for several days until someone else pushed it back to the top. I am simply passing on what I was told. This claim that everyone is so thrilled about the time change just isn't true. People who have to go home first are not thrilled. People who go straight from work like the earlier time- but not those who liked to hang around and have a drink or eat before the game. People who travel a distance are mixed-- some who have no trouble leaving early love it- because they will get home earlier. Some who have trouble leaving earlier and have to battle rush hour, aren't so happy. Some FAMILIES with kids in middle school who have after school activites that dictate what time they can leave, aren't so happy because they know they can't get there on time after an after-school practice/ sporting event/ shower/... My point is simple. The claim that all families prefer this is not true.

And for the record-- I know some people simply because I am nice to them. "Peons" will ALMOST ALWAYS help you more than the powerful. The right people to ask are not those in charge. The ones in charge are the ones who make the stupid decisions that the "lower level" employees have to deal with.

And my FINAL comment- part of my annoyance is with the "false" claim as to the motive. I think it is mostly for TV- as the big chunks of money made by the NBA come from television contracts. Do you realize that there is even a weeknight home game at 6:30?? Just for TV.

[ducks]

so the start time is for tv
would you like the price of the ticket to me more so it would be later?

[spurschick]

Can't handle that other people have come in here and agreed with me?? Where is your response to all of their comments.

I completely understand that there are people that don't like the time change. You throw around the fact that your tickets are expensive and that you know people, regardless of whether they are "peons", as you call them, or top brass.


My point is simple. The claim that all families prefer this is not true.

I don't recall reading anywhere that all families prefer the change.


And for the record-- I know some people simply because I am nice to them. "Peons" will ALMOST ALWAYS help you more than the powerful. The right people to ask are not those in charge. The ones in charge are the ones who make the stupid decisions that the "lower level" employees have to deal with.

Yeah, I, and a lot of others on this forum, know those people too. Get over yourself.


And my FINAL comment- part of my annoyance is with the "false" claim as to the motive. I think it is mostly for TV- as the big chunks of money made by the NBA come from television contracts. Do you realize that there is even a weeknight home game at 6:30?? Just for TV.

You put "false" in quotes and then follow it up with "I think...", which tells me that you're guessing why the change was made. Like others, who have made more constructive comments as to the schedule change, both for and against, have said, if enough people complain and it appears to have caused a major hassle, they will probably switch the schedule back next year. They obviously fixed the whole playoff seeding problem, there is nothing written in stone that next season's schedule can't go back to the way it was.