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boutons_
08-02-2006, 03:48 PM
9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

Allegations Brought to Inspectors General

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006; A03


Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.

In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said.

( I'm sure the DoD and DoT IGs will whitewash whiter than white )

"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."

Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration.

A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday.

A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry.

In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate -- though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals -- and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night.

For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington.

In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft -- American Airlines Flight 11 -- long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.

Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania.

These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes -- along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence -- led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11.

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."

Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel.

John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.

"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."


© 2006 The Washington Post Company

RandomGuy
08-02-2006, 03:53 PM
Heh, not exactly sinister conspiracy stuff:

People trying to cover their asses for having been inattentive or slow to respond to a major disaster.

The sad thing is that those who really want to believe in the grand "the gov'mint did it" conspiracy will come out of the woodwork to point at this and go "AH HA!"

Sigh.

Obstructed_View
08-02-2006, 04:05 PM
Interesting. I remember NORAD saying that they weren't able to see anything because all their equipment is pointing out and not in, and that they were getting information over the phone from the FAA, who was counting blips to look for lost planes. Looks like much ado about nothing to me.

Aggie Hoopsfan
08-02-2006, 06:37 PM
Yo, croutons, how does this 'flame the conspiracy fire'?

Best I can tell they were slow to respond, and if they would have reacted more quickly about all it would have meant was that some poor US pilot would have had to fire a missile to bring down the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania.

How is that conspiracy? I'd say it was damn lucky that we didn't have to put one of our troops in that position.

Nbadan
08-03-2006, 05:26 AM
Have you read this Vanity Fair article?


How did the U.S. Air Force respond on 9/11? Could it have shot down United 93, as conspiracy theorists claim? Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD's Northeast headquarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day—and the Pentagon's apparent attempt to cover it up.
By MICHAEL BRONNER


""The real story is actually better than the one we told," a NORAD general admitted to 9/11-commission staffers when confronted with evidence from the tapes that contradicted his original testimony. And so it seems.

Subpoenaed by the commission during its investigation, the recordings have never been played publicly beyond a handful of sound bites presented during the commission's hearings. Last September, as part of my research for the film United 93, on which I was an associate producer, I requested copies from the Pentagon. I was played snippets, but told my chances of hearing the full recordings were nonexistent. So it was a surprise, to say the least, when a military public-affairs officer e-mailed me, a full seven months later, saying she'd been cleared, finally, to provide them."

Here is the whole article complete with audio snippets (http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01)

I think it will help calm some of the 911 conspiracy talk.

boutons_
08-03-2006, 06:08 AM
"How is that conspiracy"

All this kind of stuff is grist for the conspiracy mills.

RandomGuy
08-03-2006, 09:45 AM
"How is that conspiracy"

All this kind of stuff is grist for the conspiracy mills.


Yup.

I have found in actually looking into most of these conspiracies that they tend to share at least two things in common.

1) Logical fallacies.

Flawed logic and lots of it. Find a good website that lists logical fallacies, and then look at that side-by-side with these theories. You will recognise the flawed thinking pretty quickly for what it is.

2) Lack of scientific knowledge

Most of these things depend on half-assed science. The more one actually understands about science and physics the more obvious the bull**** is. "Faked" moon landing theories are a good example. See badastronomy.com for a good listing.