How to get around WiFi password

[DirkAB]

My girlfriend recently moved to a new appartment and discontinued her internet service, so I'm looking for a sponge off her neighbors WiFi when I go and visit her. Does anybody know of a program that cracks WiFi passwords or any kind or trick?

One of her neighbors has a WiFi connection called "linksys." I'm going to try using the default passwords for linksys routers but I doubt that if the person went through the trouble of securing the connection they probably changed the password, but then again they didn't change the name of the router. I need to find a program that cracks the password or some sort of hacker's trick if the defualt passwords don't work. Anybody?

[PM5K]

So you want to get your girlfriend arrested, interesting...

EDIT: And there is a big difference between changing a password and changing the SSID, although it's recommended, it doesn't go hand and hand that someone that doesn't change the SSID also wouldn't change their password...

[DirkAB]

:lmao

pay for it maybe?

You think I want to pay $50 a month for internet service that I'll use less than 10 days a month? Sorry, out of the question.

[DirkAB]

So you want to get your girlfriend arrested, interesting...

EDIT: And there is a big difference between changing a password and changing the SSID, although it's recommended, it doesn't go hand and hand that someone that doesn't change the SSID also wouldn't change their password...

You really think my girlfriend would get arrested for me connecting to her neighbors WiFi connection? Get real. They wouldn't even know I was using their internet.

[CubanMustGo]

If they are smart, they have configured their router to prevent pricks like you from connecting. Some routers allow you to specify the MAC addresses of machines that are allowed to connect. Anything else is rejected, proper key/SSID or no.

[Mixability]

You think I want to pay $50 a month for internet service that I'll use less than 10 days a month? Sorry, out of the question.

If I was at my gf's apartment, I don't think I'd be using the internet as much as you........... :eyebrows

Priorities, man, priorities. :lol

[DarkReign]

MAC / SSID = nearly impenatrable without spending big $$$ on really extreme hardware.

So, basically, your answer is no. Youll actually have to pay.

But here is a tip...F

Find where the cable comes into the apartment. All the apartments are wired for cable, they just restrict your access by "capping" the appropriate node on the apartment matrix. If you remove said cap (it uses a special tool, but a pair of pliars works wonders, practice on one that sint yours first), you will have cable.

If you have cable, you can buy a cheater-modem, input the manual config, and wha-la. Internet and Cable.

[DannyT]

If I was at my gf's apartment, I don't think I'd be using the internet as much as you........... :eyebrows

Priorities, man, priorities. :lol


truuuuuue trueeeeeeeeee....but have you seen his gf.....?


:ttiwwp:

[gay abc]

*note to self*

change wireless router password when i get home from work :spin

[MannyIsGod]

Man, it is one thing leaching off someone who doens't have a password up, but actually breaking into someone's network is pretty damn weak.

[Mixability]

Man, it is one thing leaching off someone who doens't have a password up, but actually breaking into someone's network is pretty damn weak.

but he's only using it 10 days out of the month........ :rolleyes

I guess he doesn't realize thats 1/3 of a fuckin month. :lol

[DirkAB]

Man, it is one thing leaching off someone who doens't have a password up, but actually breaking into someone's network is pretty damn weak.

You're a bitch. Say a prayer for me the sinner, when you are in church on Sunday.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm all for leeching someone who leaves their connection open. But someone who closes it obviously doesn't want you in, so wtf?

[MannyIsGod]

You're a bitch. Say a prayer for me the sinner, when you are in church on Sunday.I won't be in a church and I could care less if you sin, but I think breaking into someone's computer network is really wrong. If you don't, then do what you want man, but breaking into someone's computer can get you throw in jail.

[Mixability]

You're a bitch. Say a prayer for me the sinner, when you are in church on Sunday.

Do you even realize that you're stealing or you can't comprehend that?

[DirkAB]

but he's only using it 10 days out of the month........ :rolleyes

I guess he doesn't realize thats 1/3 of a fuckin month. :lol


I don't really give a shit, if I can get the internet for free then I will with no guilt or remorse. Think it is hurting the neighbor? No, and I could give a shit about the cable company. BTW, I said at the most 10 days a month, probably more like 4-6 days out of the month, which isn't worth $50 to me. So get off your high horse and eat my petty criminal ass.

[DirkAB]

Do you even realize that you're stealing or you can't comprehend that?


You're right, I'm just a bad person. I'll be sure to include it in my next confession, I hope that it doesn't keep me out of heaven when my time comes.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know what kind of responses you expected when you come in here and post that you plan on breaking into a secured network.

[DirkAB]

I won't be in a church and I could care less if you sin, but I think breaking into someone's computer network is really wrong. If you don't, then do what you want man, but breaking into someone's computer can get you throw in jail.

I'm not trying to break into their computer, I'm trying to use their internet service, maybe you don't see the difference but it seems quite different to me. And as far as jail goes, how do you suppose that would ever happen? I have router at my place that is password protected, and if somebody was able to do what I'm trying to do, how would I even know? Or even how to prove it?

[midgetonadonkey]

I'd kick someone ass for stealing my bandwidth. I hope the same happens to you.

[DirkAB]

I'd kick someone ass for stealing my bandwidth. I hope the same happens to you.

You think assult is justified? Well, then it's a good thing that I probably won't be able to crack the password then.

[DirkAB]

I'm all for leeching someone who leaves their connection open. But someone who closes it obviously doesn't want you in, so wtf?


Leeching off an open connection isn't stealing?

[midgetonadonkey]

You think assult is justified? Well, then it's a good thing that I probably won't be able to crack the password then.

I justify everything with violence.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not trying to break into their computer, I'm trying to use their internet service, maybe you don't see the difference but it seems quite different to me. And as far as jail goes, how do you suppose that would ever happen? I have router at my place that is password protected, and if somebody was able to do what I'm trying to do, how would I even know? Or even how to prove it?Dude, are you serious? Almost every router has a list of MAC addresses which connect to it. A MAC address identifies YOUR computer. If their network is password protected, you could be charged with unauthorized access to a computer network which is usually a felony in every state.

I'm not sure how far it would be prosecuted, but if you think you're not going to leave footsteps then you're a really foolish man. You don't think that trying to crack a password isn't going to leave or trigger a log file? Cracking is the cyber equivilant of using a large blunt object to break down a door: it isn't very subtle.

If keep my Wifi network secured because I don't want anyone packet sniffing my poker account information. If not for that, I'd have an open network that anyone could connect to and I wouldn't mind. But if I found someone had gone to the trouble to break my encryption key I would probably find out who it was and press charges.

[MannyIsGod]

Leeching off an open connection isn't stealing?I never said it was stealing, that was Danyo and Midge. If somoene leaves their connection open, it is broadcasting an open network into your home then I say it is fair game. But what you're doing is breaking into something, which is a huge difference.

[midgetonadonkey]

I don't think using an open connection is stealing, just the password protected connections.

[DirkAB]

Dude, are you serious? Almost every router has a list of MAC addresses which connect to it. A MAC address identifies YOUR computer. If their network is password protected, you could be charged with unauthorized access to a computer network which is usually a felony in every state.

I'm not sure how far it would be prosecuted, but if you think you're not going to leave footsteps then you're a really foolish man. You don't think that trying to crack a password isn't going to leave or trigger a log file? Cracking is the cyber equivilant of using a large blunt object to break down a door: it isn't very subtle.

If keep my Wifi network secured because I don't want anyone packet sniffing my poker account information. If not for that, I'd have an open network that anyone could connect to and I wouldn't mind. But if I found someone had gone to the trouble to break my encryption key I would probably find out who it was and press charges.


It's a good thing you aren't the neighbor, as far as you know anyway.

[DirkAB]

MAC / SSID = nearly impenatrable without spending big $$$ on really extreme hardware.

So, basically, your answer is no. Youll actually have to pay.

But here is a tip...F

Find where the cable comes into the apartment. All the apartments are wired for cable, they just restrict your access by "capping" the appropriate node on the apartment matrix. If you remove said cap (it uses a special tool, but a pair of pliars works wonders, practice on one that sint yours first), you will have cable.

If you have cable, you can buy a cheater-modem, input the manual config, and wha-la. Internet and Cable.


Now that I'm afraid of trying, seems way to easy to get caught doing that.

[ChumpDumper]

I left my MAC filtering off once after altering the settings. Half an hour later, eight computers were leeching of my router. It's easily detected - all you have to do is look.

[U.N. Sodier]

The U.N does not approve of you trying to steal internet Bakkrid. We will use our full powers to see that this does not happen. Expect a firm letter expressing our dismay towards you very soon.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm pretty sure that TW monitors digital traffic on their network, so I don't think yo ucan get away with stealing road runner. They'll know right away.

[DirkAB]

I never said it was stealing, that was Danyo and Midge. If somoene leaves their connection open, it is broadcasting an open network into your home then I say it is fair game. But what you're doing is breaking into something, which is a huge difference.

I see your point, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over using somebody's internet connection if I got around the password. If that makes me a bad person and some sort of scumbag, then so be it. And, I'm quite confident that the person wouldn't have a clue that I was surfing the net on their connection, nor do I think that they would know how to go about figuring out who it was, nor do I think they would call the police. If I get it figured out and get caught I promise I'll post a scanned copy of my ticket so you guys can stick it to me since you warned me.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

They don't give ticket's for felonys buddy. That being said, I doubt anyone would report you. They'd probably just go about closing their network in a better way.

[Melmart1]

Even one extra person on your network makes it slower. My roommate and I were having some connection issues and as part of the troubleshooting, they had us open up the connection. Within TWO MINUTES someone was leeching, and the connection was slower- maybe not hugely but it was noticeable. By the time we figured out the problem 30 minutes later FOUR motherfuckers were leeching off of us.

That shit pisses me off, fucking vultures. We pay good, hard-earned money to have the convenience of wireless and I don't want anyone making shit slower for us just because their cheap ass wants to be on the internet when they could be fucking their girlfriend intead. So we lock our router and you better believe that we know EXACTLY who was leeching and when and would report you without blinking an eye if you tried to hack in.

[dougp]

Ever consider just knocking on the persons door and explaining that you'd like to use their wireless network because you have good signal? Offer the person like $10/month?

[DirkAB]

I left my MAC filtering off once after altering the settings. Half an hour later, eight computers were leeching of my router. It's easily detected - all you have to do is look.

How and where do you look to see if other computers are connected? I want to check my router.

[Mixability]

a ticket......... :lmao

[DirkAB]

Ever consider just knocking on the persons door and explaining that you'd like to use their wireless network because you have good signal? Offer the person like $10/month?

Yeah, I would definitely do that, but I don't know whose it is and there are like 20 different apartments in her building and like 20 more in the building right next to it. If I knew who it was I would offer $25 a month, but I would have to go door to door and I don't want to do that. Plus it is kind of exciting to try and crack the password.

[DirkAB]

:lol

They don't give ticket's for felonys buddy. That being said, I doubt anyone would report you. They'd probably just go about closing their network in a better way.

Then I'll post the article in the paper. I can see it now, "28 year old man inprisoned for mooching internet service."

[ChumpDumper]

How and where do you look to see if other computers are connected? I want to check my router.If you can login to the router, there is usually a LAN status tab somewhere. The computers will be listed by name and network IP address.

[2Blonde]

If you can login to the router, there is usually a LAN status tab somewhere. The computers will be listed by name and network IP address.Yes, but when you set it up you can name it anything you want. So that still doesn't tell you who the account belongs to unless the person uses their real name.

[CharlieMac]

I used to leech of someone at my old apartment complex, but once I saw that they didn't leave it open and enabled the WEP settings, I got the hint.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, but when you set it up you can name it anything you want. So that still doesn't tell you who the account belongs to unless the person uses their real name.I'm just saying how to find out if anyone else is accessing your router, not how to ID them. If you don't want them accessing it, turn on MAC filtering or enable WEP.

[u2sarajevo]

Anyone that has a Wireless network at home..... DO NOT broadcast your SSID for one. Always secure communication with an encryption key (enable WEP, WPA). And MAC filtering is a good way to further secure your Wireless network but by no means is it the only option you should be using (you can spoof a MAC address also).

As to the point of findout out who is mooching off of you.... you would have better luck if you lived in a House (not an apartment) because the number of potential moochers is much smaller. But you would have to get hardcore evidence that your neighbor was doing this before you will get the law involved. The better option if you have uninvited guests on your network is to hack the crap out of their computer.... then lock them out by securing your network. At least then you will know something bad happened to them. And if one of your neighbors then starts complaining about computer problems you probably just identified the perpetrator.

[DarkReign]

Now that I'm afraid of trying, seems way to easy to get caught doing that.

Plausible Deniability.

[DarkReign]

Anyone that has a Wireless network at home..... DO NOT broadcast your SSID for one. Always secure communication with an encryption key (enable WEP, WPA). And MAC filtering is a good way to further secure your Wireless network but by no means is it the only option you should be using (you can spoof a MAC address also).

As to the point of findout out who is mooching off of you.... you would have better luck if you lived in a House (not an apartment) because the number of potential moochers is much smaller. But you would have to get hardcore evidence that your neighbor was doing this before you will get the law involved. The better option if you have uninvited guests on your network is to hack the crap out of their computer.... then lock them out by securing your network. At least then you will know something bad happened to them. And if one of your neighbors then starts complaining about computer problems you probably just identified the perpetrator.


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[Slydragon]

How about when you *visit* your GF you spend time with her rather than the net.

[DirkAB]

How about when you *visit* your GF you spend time with her rather than the net.

Believe me I will, but she goes to sleep early and I'm up for a couple of hours after she falls asleep. She doesn't have cable, and even if she did her new apartment is very small and the television would probably keep her awake, so I'm really trying not to go stir crazy. Can't believe people are that up in arms and looking down their noses at me for this idea. I'll bet some of you same people do things like download music for free and use pirated software, but that is just a guess.

[CharlieMac]

How about when you *visit* your GF you spend time with her rather than the net.

Yeah, that makes the most sense here. You should rent Beaches with her dude.

[baseline bum]

If it's WEP, it's easy to crack unless they change the key weekly. Look into the aircrack suite. You also have to be running linux or *BSD to do it. aircrack has a packet sniffer. Once you get a few hundred thousand unique IVs, it only takes a couple of minutes to crack the password using aircrack. I've cracked tons of WEP codes using it. It might take a couple of weeks to sniff enough packets to be able to do it for regular internet usage. However, if the person downloads a large movie or something of that nature, you can get enough packets pretty quickly. You can also inject traffic into their network to be able to recieve packets quickly, but then your odds of being caught are a lot higher. Anyways, read up on aircrack and the airtools package, kismet, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head. Tom's Hardware has a few articles on cracking WEP keys that will tell you some of the se programs I forgot. For anyone who uses WEP, change your key often or else you're a sitting duck.

MAC filtering's a fucking joke. It takes all of 2 seconds for me to spoof a MAC Address. All I have to do is examine a packet from your network, and I have it.

[baseline bum]

Dude, are you serious? Almost every router has a list of MAC addresses which connect to it. A MAC address identifies YOUR computer. If their network is password protected, you could be charged with unauthorized access to a computer network which is usually a felony in every state.

I'm not sure how far it would be prosecuted, but if you think you're not going to leave footsteps then you're a really foolish man. You don't think that trying to crack a password isn't going to leave or trigger a log file? Cracking is the cyber equivilant of using a large blunt object to break down a door: it isn't very subtle.

If keep my Wifi network secured because I don't want anyone packet sniffing my poker account information. If not for that, I'd have an open network that anyone could connect to and I wouldn't mind. But if I found someone had gone to the trouble to break my encryption key I would probably find out who it was and press charges.

You can easily crack a WEP key without interjecting any traffic. What kind of footsteps am I going to leave when I'm not touching your network? If you download a lot of files and use WEP, a passive attack isn't going to take a long time.

Another easy way to crack passwords is based on peoples stupidity. Most people enter a passphrase for their WEP key. All you have to do to crack it (and this method is really fast) is to run the MD5 algorithm on a dictionary after sniffing only 1 IV packet (most WEP encryption keys are MD5 hashes of passphrases).

Anyone who uses WEP and passphrases should change it immediately to something more random. When you use a passphrase, you change the attack need to beat you from brute-force to dictionary, and dictionary attack is as easy as it gets.

[DirkAB]

Thank you very much. I really appreciate the help.

[DirkAB]

I found a windows version of aircrack, but I guess it doesn't have as many tools as the linux version. Might take me a while to figure how to operate this program, but should be fun trying. Got to love technology.

[Zombie]

Bakrid, you want free wifi? Take your lap top to almost any Rest Area on a Texas Highway!

[DirkAB]

Bakrid, you want free wifi? Take your lap top to almost any Rest Area on a Texas Highway!
I live in Nebraska. She does live within a half mile or so to the University, so until I figure out that program I could go the union if I really need to use the internet, that or Starbucks.

[spurster]

Man, it is one thing leaching off someone who doens't have a password up, but actually breaking into someone's network is pretty damn weak.
Leeching off somebody else's network is weak, password protected or not. If the door to a house is open, does that mean you can go in? If the door to a car is unlocked, does that mean you can go in and look around and take it for a spin?

Yes, computer security should be better, but that doesn't give you the right to trepass. You don't gain rights when their wireless frequencies are going through your place.

[MannyIsGod]

Leeching off somebody else's network is weak, password protected or not. If the door to a house is open, does that mean you can go in? If the door to a car is unlocked, does that mean you can go in and look around and take it for a spin?

Yes, computer security should be better, but that doesn't give you the right to trepass. You don't gain rights when their wireless frequencies are going through your place.You do, actually. When somenoe broadcasts a signal directly into my house, it is their responsibility to secure it. XP will automaticaly select the best signal, and at times that will be your neighbors unsecured network.

It is more like listening to music your neighbor blasts as opposed to walking into their house considering I never leave mine.

Not to mention that there is a large group of people who leave their networks open for the sole reason they want to share.

[leemajors]

sheeeit they got free wifi at dairy queen now!

[spurster]

You do, actually. When somenoe broadcasts a signal directly into my house, it is their responsibility to secure it. XP will automaticaly select the best signal, and at times that will be your neighbors unsecured network.

It is more like listening to music your neighbor blasts as opposed to walking into their house considering I never leave mine.

Not to mention that there is a large group of people who leave their networks open for the sole reason they want to share.
Yes, it is their responsibility to secure it, but it is your responsibility to only use what you've paid for or allowed to.

You can keep justifying your behavior however you want. Legally, the FCC governs what signals can be sent where. So you're saying the FCC has granted anyone to use unsecured networks? Maybe unsecured computers, too?

[atlfan25]

On the wireless network we have at my house it is even easier to see what computers get on our network than how y'all have described

Whenever any computer connects to the router, a small window pops up in the bottom right hand corner of the main computer saying what computer has just connected to the router.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes, it is their responsibility to secure it, but it is your responsibility to only use what you've paid for or allowed to.

You can keep justifying your behavior however you want. Legally, the FCC governs what signals can be sent where. So you're saying the FCC has granted anyone to use unsecured networks? Maybe unsecured computers, too?Legally eh? Show me a case where a person has been prosecuted for accessing an unsecured network.

[spurster]

Here's a couple example of people being prosecuted, though in these cases, the accused were sitting in cars rather than the privacy of their own home.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=189600321

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8489534/

Here's various legal mumbo-jumbo, which I think can be fairly summarized that the legality is murky.

http://wwwebbb.gsu.edu/lawand/papers/fa05/author1oblinger/#Applying_the_CPAA

http://www.lctjournal.washington.edu/Vol1/a009Ramasastry.html

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/08/technology/personaltech/internet_piracy/