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Yonivore
08-07-2006, 07:04 PM
...that talks about this Reuters photographer Hajj staging and photoshopping and just plain making shit up?

How 'bout the 40 dead that dropped to 1?

Or the Qana dead toll continuing to drop?

Then you've got the travelling Hezbollah mortician with a refrigerated truck full of bodies.

If Israel is recklessly bombing the shit out of Lebanon and killing so many civilians, why does Reuters and Hezbollah's travelling mortician feel the need to propagandize civilian casualties?

Extra Stout
08-07-2006, 07:13 PM
...that talks about this Reuters photographer Hajj staging and photoshopping and just plain making shit up?

How 'bout the 40 dead that dropped to 1?

Or the Qana dead toll continuing to drop?

Then you've got the travelling Hezbollah mortician with a refrigerated truck full of bodies.

If Israel is recklessly bombing the shit out of Lebanon and killing so many civilians, why does Reuters and Hezbollah's travelling mortician feel the need to propagandize civilian casualties?
Maybe if we keep condemning Israel the terrorists won't hurt us (whimper).

Obstructed_View
08-07-2006, 09:43 PM
Haven't you heard? The only propaganda is coming from Israel dropping pamphlets and from the Islamic news agency the US funded.

Nbadan
08-08-2006, 01:47 AM
It's just horrible to witness gullible conservative minds tripping over their own shit.

Yonivore
08-08-2006, 02:33 PM
It's just horrible to witness gullible conservative minds tripping over their own shit.
Is this a response?

Sec24Row7
08-08-2006, 02:59 PM
If conservatives are so witless how dumb to liberals have to fucking be to ever lose an election?

boutons_
08-08-2006, 03:48 PM
"If conservatives are so witless..."

... because there are more of these sheeple than non-conservatives.
Quantity doesn't imply quality.

Extra Stout
08-08-2006, 04:11 PM
If Israel is recklessly bombing the shit out of Lebanon and killing so many civilians, why does Reuters and Hezbollah's travelling mortician feel the need to propagandize civilian casualties?
And to answer this question is that Reuters does a lot of business in countries whose populations hate Israel, so kowtowing to Israel helps the bottom line.

They had to fire Hajj though. When a stringer gets caught photoshopping and staging pictures, you have to fire him or you might lose your American and European clients.

FromWayDowntown
08-08-2006, 04:35 PM
Frankly, I'd been waiting for Yonivore to plaigarize a blog.

just kidding.

Spurminator
08-08-2006, 04:48 PM
Pretty lousy-ass Photoshopping job too...

http://imgfarm.com/images/reuters/full/2006-08-06T215606Z_01_NOOTR_RTRIDSP_3_NEWS-MIDEAST-REUTERS-DC.jpg

Can you guess which one is the altered image? Hmmmmmmm.....

PixelPusher
08-08-2006, 11:04 PM
Pretty lousy-ass Photoshopping job too...

http://imgfarm.com/images/reuters/full/2006-08-06T215606Z_01_NOOTR_RTRIDSP_3_NEWS-MIDEAST-REUTERS-DC.jpg

Can you guess which one is the altered image? Hmmmmmmm.....

The clone stamp tool is NOT always your friend.
:rolleyes

exstatic
08-08-2006, 11:08 PM
Irony: the plagiarist calling out the fabricators....

Extra Stout
08-08-2006, 11:13 PM
Irony: the plagiarist calling out the fabricators....
Because posting on a basketball forum is the same as being one of the world's largest wire services.

exstatic
08-08-2006, 11:17 PM
Because posting on a basketball forum is the same as being one of the world's largest wire services.
It's still "lack of scruples" calling out "lack of scruples". Motes, Hello Kettle and all of that...

Aggie Hoopsfan
08-08-2006, 11:45 PM
It's just horrible to witness gullible conservative minds tripping over their own shit.

As opposed to gullible liberals with their heads up theirs.

Yonivore
08-09-2006, 12:05 AM
Irony: the plagiarist calling out the fabricators....
At least I'm not propagandizing for a terrorist group.

T Park
08-09-2006, 01:48 AM
funny how NBADan can't post and spam the forum with that link, unlike with the other articles from the onion and other BS.

smeagol
08-09-2006, 06:32 AM
If the picture had been plagiarized by Israel, boutons and Dan would have started five threads each about it.

Extra Stout
08-09-2006, 08:54 AM
If the picture had been plagiarized by Israel, boutons and Dan would have started five threads each about it.
You're not supposed to put any thought into these things. In America, your political opinions are determined by which team you are on. In this country, on the right, Israel is automatically good no matter what, and on the left Israel is automatically bad no matter what.*

So, for example, if somebody is on the right, then if Israel bulldozes a Palestinian town in order to build settlements for Hasidic Jews that just moved over from Brooklyn, they are supposed to think that is perfectly OK because Israel has a "birthright" to that land. If the Palestinians retaliate, that is "terrorism."

And then, on the other hand, if Israel is under attack from a foreign para-governmental entity like Hezbollah, and does anything to defend itself, that is inherently bad, because Israel is inherently bad. If they truly were interested in peace, they would acquiesce to the Arab demands, pack up and leave, and we would give them part of Florida as the new Jewish homeland. So fabricated propaganda like faked or staged photos is simply in the service of the greater good, which is whatever is bad for Israel.

*The exception of course is Jewish liberals, who at least for the next six months or so might continue to vote for Democrats.

exstatic
08-09-2006, 10:26 PM
At least I'm not propagandizing for a terrorist group.
Some would consider a country that attacks another under false pretenses, toppling their government, destabilizing an entire crucial area of the world, and causing thousands of deaths to be terrorists. Hello, Bushco...

whottt
08-09-2006, 11:10 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/

http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/beirutwoman1.jpg

http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/beirutwoman2.jpg

http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/woman3.jpg



This is the great one here....


http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/newyorktimes2.jpg


http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/newyorktimes4.jpg


Here's what makes it classic:

http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/nodust.1.jpg

Note the hat tucked under the arm :lol


No wonder Hollywood lefties defend these guys....

Johnny_Blaze_47
08-09-2006, 11:58 PM
Far be it for me to bring up the politics in this, but speaking from a journalism standpoint, I think the heads of some editors need to roll for this.

Speaking on the Reuters smoke picture, I fail to see what the cloning made better in the picture. I think the original is far more compelling without any attempts to embellish it.

Just sitting in the newsroom last night, I happened to catch a Paula Zhan piece about the mentioned photographs and I remember them bringing in Anderson Cooper to comment on what the Israelis were doing. He said they were taken to a street with a line of ambulances and a military media advisor let the media interview the ambulance employees and then had the six or so ambulances take off with sirens blaring and go up and down the street so videojournalists could shoot B-roll.

This is an embarassment to all involved and those of us who share the title of journalists.

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:01 AM
You're not supposed to put any thought into these things. In America, your political opinions are determined by which team you are on. In this country, on the right, Israel is automatically good no matter what, and on the left Israel is automatically bad no matter what.*

Rich and secular Jews support Democratic candidates, while the wack Jews, mostly NeoCons like Lieberman, support Republicans.

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:04 AM
So fabricated propaganda like faked or staged photos is simply in the service of the greater good, which is whatever is bad for Israel.

So you think Reuters is anti-Israel?

:lmao

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:11 AM
This is an embarassment to all involved and those of us who share the title of journalists

Israel has also been censoring this war from the very beginning. It's funny but I've pointed out many doctored pictures by Reuters in the last year and not a peep from the forum wingnuts, but doctor a little smoke over Beriut and the wing-nuts go nuts.

:rolleyes

Johnny_Blaze_47
08-10-2006, 12:25 AM
Israel has also been censoring this war from the very beginning. It's funny but I've pointed out many doctored pictures by Reuters in the last year and not a peep from the forum wingnuts, but doctor a little smoke over Beriut and the wing-nuts go nuts.

:rolleyes

I'm editing this and pointing to an error in my first post.

I said Anderson Cooper was talking about Israel, he was talking about Hezbollah. Regardless, there are media hypsters on both sides of this conflict, especially since nearly all outlets are either chained to the Israeli press ministers or have to submit their copy for approval and possible fact redaction.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/08/pzn.01.html

ShackO
08-10-2006, 12:42 AM
Israel has also been censoring this war from the very beginning. It's funny but I've pointed out many doctored pictures by Reuters in the last year and not a peep from the forum wingnuts, but doctor a little smoke over Beriut and the wing-nuts go nuts.

:rolleyes

They have been sensoring news from the West bank and Gaza for how long??


The observer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StXkdRfAuXk&search=Israel) :oops Sometimes it is just embarrassing what some of these American sheeppl accept hook line and sinker as news out of there………

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:42 AM
I think all you have to do is look at the destruction in Beruit and Haifa and you'll instinctively know that there are many sad photo's taken and not taken on both sides. Whott can post as many pictures that he thinks are phony as he wants, but you can't fake the destruction of the infrastructure in the background of the photos. It's just sad.

Johnny_Blaze_47
08-10-2006, 12:45 AM
I think all you have to do is look at the destruction in Beruit and Haifa and you'll instinctively know that there are many sad photo's taken and not taken on both sides. Whott can post as many pictures that he thinks are phony as he wants, but you can't fake the destruction of the infrastructure in the background of the photos. It's just sad.

Now as far as the "thinks are phony" part? What of the posted pictures is real?

Not only did Reuters cop to the smoke picture being fake, any media watcher has to admit that there are ethical problems that are happening with the pictures coming out of this conflict.

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:48 AM
They have been sensoring news from the West bank and Gaza for how long??

It's likely Hezbollah censors pictures and logistical stuff and we know they likely set up shots for the media, but there are many Israeli spys in Lebanon and its not like the M$M is interwoven with either side, if Israel can run a PR campaign for the war, what about Hezbollah? Both sides have been ready for this battle for some time.

Nbadan
08-10-2006, 12:58 AM
Now as far as the "thinks are phony" part? What of the posted pictures is real?

The destruction in Lebanon. Beruit under seige. The humanitarian crisis...

Johnny_Blaze_47
08-10-2006, 09:45 AM
The destruction in Lebanon. Beruit under seige. The humanitarian crisis...

Same thing, other side of the border.

This isn't a choice, this is happening to both sides.

George Gervin's Afro
08-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Yoni attacking the straw man again? of course this guy who doctored the photo represents all of the media.. I mean anyone with half a brain realizes this guy is the mainstream media..

George Gervin's Afro
08-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Some would consider a country that attacks another under false pretenses, toppling their government, destabilizing an entire crucial area of the world, and causing thousands of deaths to be terrorists. Hello, Bushco...


or worse ..starting an unecessary war..

whottt
08-10-2006, 12:25 PM
http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/


http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/Reuters_qana.jpg


http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/Reuters_Qana_02.jpg


Video of this guy actually directing the shots, in this war, and in the past...and he's been doing this for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPAkc5CLgc




It's amazing to me that no one sees that Hezbollah and all the Terrorists actually want civillian deaths and exploit them to the fullest potential, to take advantage of our useful idiots...


They deliberately put their civillians at risk, they embed themselves with them...and when attacking that is the group they try to attack as well.

MannyIsGod
08-10-2006, 02:11 PM
What is amazing to me is that Whottt fails to see that nobody here is championing Hezbollah. Criticism of one side of this war is not de facto support for the other.