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Nbadan
10-22-2004, 01:40 AM
Looks like George Tenet agrees with John Kerry's assessment of the Iraq war...


NEW YORK The guest speaker was famous, and he was visiting a small town far from the spotlight of network TV cameras and the reach of big-name reporters from national newspapers. In other words: It was a perfect scenario for a local reporter to snag an exclusive. And Anna Clark, correspondent for The Herald-Palladium of St. Joseph, Mich., was there to grab it.

Addressing the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan Wednesday night, George Tenet, former director of central intelligence, called the war on Iraq "wrong," according to Clark's article today. Tenet added that while the Iraq war was "rightly being challenged," the CIA was making important strides toward success in the greater war on terrorism.

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Editor and Publisher (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000682236)

Tenet failed to elaborate on his comment.

whottt
10-22-2004, 01:49 AM
Nice...Clinton appointee who was head of the CIA while the Taliban came to power and Al-Qaeda was taking flying lessons. I really value his opinion.

Nbadan
10-22-2004, 02:24 AM
I really value his opinion

Apparently W did because he kept him around. I guess he should have talked to you first.

:lol

Yonivore
10-22-2004, 06:51 AM
Apparently W did because he kept him around. I guess he should have talked to you first.

:lol
CIA Directors are appointed for 6 year terms that can't be abridged by anything short of resignation or removal through impeachment (or something similar - I don't know if the process is exactly the same.) But, I do know the President can't just fire the guy on a whim.

I wondered the same thing, Nbadanallah, until it was explained to me -- by someone in the know. If you want to contest this point, I'll find the relevant sources. Or, if I have the time later today, I'll look for them anyway.

Yes, Tenet is a Clinton tool.

Hook Dem
10-22-2004, 09:16 AM
"Yes, Tenet is a Clinton tool." ..............OOPS !

exstatic
10-22-2004, 11:17 AM
There you go, making shit up again, Yoni.


PAST CIA DIRECTORS
George Tenet, 1997-2004
John Deutch, 1995-1996
James Woolsey, 1993-1995
Robert Gates, 1991-1993
William Webster, 1987-1991
William Casey, 1981-1987
Stansfield Turner, 1977-1978
George Bush Sr, 1976-1977

Clandestino
10-22-2004, 11:56 AM
How does the DCI get his job? How long is his term?

The DCI is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate, the DCI serves at
the pleasure of the President. There is no term of office. Upon Senate confirmation, the
DCI takes an oath of office before assuming his duties. Allen Welsh Dulles served for
eight years, the longest serving of any DCI.

http://www.cia.gov/dci/public_affairs/faq.html#2

Yonivore
10-22-2004, 03:17 PM
There you go, making shit up again, Yoni.
No, I didn't make it up and, yes, I was wrong. However, in a sense, I'm right.

Below I've linked two separate documents, one from the early 90's and one from this past summer, calling for fixed terms for the DCI. And, after checking my source, I was corrected -- in the sense that the six year terms are now "informally" agreed to pursuant to the commission recommendations made in the first document; even though there is no statutory requirement to do so.

But, I concede the point, Bush could have fired him. However, it is generally know, within the Beltway, he would have had to overcome substantial political pressure to "stick to the agreement." In other words, it wasn't a mountain he was willing to conquer when Tenet's "term" was due to "expire" soon anyway.


Commission Report on the Central Intelligence Agency (http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/int010.html)


The Commission concluded that its proposed Deputy DCI for the CIA-the new statutory, Senate-confirmed position which the Commission recommends be created to manage the CIA-optimally should be in place for six years. There should be a presumption that the incumbent would serve for the entire term. To ensure, however, that a DCI retains the ability to make changes in the position should the incumbent prove incompatible, the Commission believes the appointment should be for a series of two-year terms. A similar arrangement governs the appointment of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

6-1. The Commission recommends that the DDCI for the CIA be appointed for a term not to exceed six years and be subject to reappointment by the President at the end of each two-year period.


Statement of Senator Barbara Mikulski on Release of Senate Intelligence Committee Report (http://mikulski.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=223713)

This new DCI should be appointed to five or six year terms B similar to the term of the Federal Reserve Board Chairman B to ensure independence of the DCI. If it is important to ensure independence of monetary policy, it is important to ensure independence of our intelligence community.

whottt
10-22-2004, 03:23 PM
Just so we don't lose track of the issue...I repeat:


Clinton appointee who was head of the CIA while the Taliban came to power and Al-Qaeda was taking flying lessons.

That's it...end of discussion.

exstatic
10-22-2004, 04:25 PM
No, I didn't make it up and, yes, I was wrong. However, in a sense, I'm right.

You voted for it before you voted against it? :lmao

Opinionater
10-22-2004, 04:59 PM
IMHO, that is why George Tenet is the former director of the CIA.

You are with them, or you are fired even though you say you leaving of your accord.

whottt
10-22-2004, 05:18 PM
At least Clinton appointed George was weak enough to hold his tongue as Chaney remote controlled the planes into the WTC, and as we falsified intelligence world wide retroactively to 1998. For that we can never repay him. Too bad his conscience started to bother him...now he's gonna have to get the Kennedy treatment.

Marcus Bryant
10-22-2004, 05:29 PM
Yeah no shit. If Bush knew that there were no WMDs did he really think that he could invade Iraq and not have that discovered? Fuck, if he was that diabolical and Hitlerian as some critics have portrayed him as, why wouldn't he have planted some WMDs on Hussein to begin with?

CommanderMcBragg
10-22-2004, 05:30 PM
You want him assassinated?

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:09 AM
You want him assassinated?

:lol

You could see George Tenet turn to the dark side when he sat quietly behind Powell who was testifying before the U.N. about suspected Iraq mobile labs. Before that, Tenet wasn't really playing ball with the Neocons.

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:12 AM
Actually Tenet came out and said today that he was misquoted.

And hold that thought on the mobile labs...According to documents found in Iraq France was selling Iraq mobile lab technology up until 20 days before the war.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:19 AM
According to documents found in Iraq

I wonder if those documents were super-script. :lol

Look, there were no mobile labs discovered in Iraq after the invasion. Maybe Saddam shipped them off to Syria or Iran with his stockpiles of WMD, but those certainly were not mobile labs that Powell was pointing to on the intelligence maps before the U.N.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:21 AM
Tenet came out and said today that he was misquoted.

Yeah, misquoted like Clarke and O'Neill were misquoted. :lol

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:33 AM
The liberal media supporting their candidate. If you have any doubts about this don't forget they did the same thing to Rumsfield...they also did it with Iran.

And before you pull the Fox card...Fox doesn't really hide the fact that it's slanted, they announce that it has a different view than the other networks...the other networks try to pretend they aren't slanted.

whottt
10-23-2004, 03:46 AM
I wonder if those documents were super-script. :lol

Look, there were no mobile labs discovered in Iraq after the invasion. Maybe Saddam shipped them off to Syria or Iran with his stockpiles of WMD, but those certainly were not mobile labs that Powell was pointing to on the intelligence maps before the U.N.


There may not be any mobile labs in Iraq but there is substantial evidence that France, not Germany, not China, not Russia, France, good old France, our oldest ally...was selling them the technology and even sending specialists to help them better utilize it.

And unlike with US companies, the fact that France is a socialist state masquerading as Democracy, in which most of it's industries, and media, are state controlled, and it's government officials above prosecution by the law while they are in office......if these allegations turn out to be true that will be an indictment of the French Government...and Jaque Chirac.

I wouldn't automatically assume the Bush administration is fabricating evidence...it is Kofi Annan's hand picked investagator that is making these findings. And if Bush had wanted to fabricate evidence he would have fabricated WMD from the get go. Not to mention if all he wanted from Saddam was Iraqi Oil we would never have had the first Persian Gulf War. I mean Saddam is an easier bribe than the New Iraqi government will be.


Just one time...turn your distrust of our government onto some of those wonderful European Governments...you're a pretty smart guy with a lively imagination...it shouldn't be too hard for you to see what they are trying to do to our economy, now that the Soviet Union is out of the way...it shouldn't be too hard to see their bigoted view of our culture...while we not only do not fear theirs over here...we embrace it.

And then remember, before we go running seeking Europe's approval...their major contributions to the 20th century were Marxism and Nazism, and modern Fascism too for that matter.

Yonivore
10-23-2004, 09:41 AM
Actually Tenet came out and said today that he was misquoted.
Misquoting former Bush administration officials? Never happens!