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08-11-2006, 08:36 PM
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Hamilton OK with Ben choosing money NBA

August 11, 2006

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BY SHANNON SHELTON

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Richard Hamilton thought Ben Wallace would be a Piston for life.

But life turned out to be six seasons after Wallace signed a four-year, $60-million deal with the Chicago Bulls during the off-season, ending his Pistons career.

While Hamilton will miss having Wallace on the court, he remains supportive of his former teammate's decision.

"One thing about Ben, he's been underpaid his whole career," Hamilton said. "Since Day 1. Since being in Washington, Orlando and being here. He's been underpaid his whole career, so I'm happy to see that he got his money, because it's well-deserved."

The Pistons' starting shooting guard shared his thoughts about Wallace's departure and the Pistons' future with their new players, center Nazr Mohammed and guard Flip Murray, during his youth basketball camp at Birmingham Detroit Country Day. The program concludes today.

"I just told (Wallace), you have to make a decision for yourself and your family. Talk to your wife, talk to your kids and you go out and do what you do for yourself. I told him, 'Hey, we'd love to have you back; I don't want you to go nowhere,' but the ultimate thing is, everybody goes through that, being a free agent and things like that. He had to make a decision for his family.

"It's gonna be quite odd without Ben out there. He meant so much to us, to Detroit as a whole, so it's gonna be tough. But we've got guys coming in. Hopefully, they can fill in the void and we can do some special things."

Here's what else Hamilton had to say:

# How much did he talk with Wallace about the possibility of leaving? "I talk to Ben all the time. I talked to him at the beginning of the process, the middle, the end, and I talked to him about a week ago. That's our guy. We're like family. We did so many special things here in Detroit, so I love him."

# Did he know what Wallace was thinking during the process? "I didn't know. I thought Ben was going to be a Piston for life. But you never knew what someone else was going to pay him. When people start talking about that type of money, you've gotta make a decision. Ben's at that age where this will probably be his last big deal, so you've got to get all the money that you possibly can get."

# With analysts predicting a drop-off, can the Pistons remain a title contender? "Aw, man, I love when people talk like that. It motivates us. I think we play better like that. Like I said, Ben was a great piece, a big piece to what we had, but we still have guys on the team who know how to win. There's gonna be no slippage. We've only been here for three years. That's what people forget. People say, 'Your run's over.' I'm saying, 'You're talking about teams that've been together for 10 years -- we've been together for three.' So the sky's the limit still for us. We've got a rude awakening for everybody."

shaggy17
08-11-2006, 09:04 PM
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Hamilton OK with Ben choosing money NBA

August 11, 2006

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BY SHANNON SHELTON

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Richard Hamilton thought Ben Wallace would be a Piston for life.

But life turned out to be six seasons after Wallace signed a four-year, $60-million deal with the Chicago Bulls during the off-season, ending his Pistons career.

While Hamilton will miss having Wallace on the court, he remains supportive of his former teammate's decision.

"One thing about Ben, he's been underpaid his whole career," Hamilton said. "Since Day 1. Since being in Washington, Orlando and being here. He's been underpaid his whole career, so I'm happy to see that he got his money, because it's well-deserved."

The Pistons' starting shooting guard shared his thoughts about Wallace's departure and the Pistons' future with their new players, center Nazr Mohammed and guard Flip Murray, during his youth basketball camp at Birmingham Detroit Country Day. The program concludes today.

"I just told (Wallace), you have to make a decision for yourself and your family. Talk to your wife, talk to your kids and you go out and do what you do for yourself. I told him, 'Hey, we'd love to have you back; I don't want you to go nowhere,' but the ultimate thing is, everybody goes through that, being a free agent and things like that. He had to make a decision for his family.

"It's gonna be quite odd without Ben out there. He meant so much to us, to Detroit as a whole, so it's gonna be tough. But we've got guys coming in. Hopefully, they can fill in the void and we can do some special things."

Here's what else Hamilton had to say:

# How much did he talk with Wallace about the possibility of leaving? "I talk to Ben all the time. I talked to him at the beginning of the process, the middle, the end, and I talked to him about a week ago. That's our guy. We're like family. We did so many special things here in Detroit, so I love him."

# Did he know what Wallace was thinking during the process? "I didn't know. I thought Ben was going to be a Piston for life. But you never knew what someone else was going to pay him. When people start talking about that type of money, you've gotta make a decision. Ben's at that age where this will probably be his last big deal, so you've got to get all the money that you possibly can get."

# With analysts predicting a drop-off, can the Pistons remain a title contender? "Aw, man, I love when people talk like that. It motivates us. I think we play better like that. Like I said, Ben was a great piece, a big piece to what we had, but we still have guys on the team who know how to win. There's gonna be no slippage. We've only been here for three years. That's what people forget. People say, 'Your run's over.' I'm saying, 'You're talking about teams that've been together for 10 years -- we've been together for three.' So the sky's the limit still for us. We've got a rude awakening for everybody."


Yep kinda like how they were so motivated last year only to lose to Miami in the ECF and downgrading their coaching position and trading away Darko in the process. Darko will flourish in Orlando while Dumars will be kicking himself for making that deal and it wont be long before Flip gets fired. I had liked the Pistons before the Flip era. I have always hated Flip back in his Minny days and I really want his ass to get fired sooner then later. Fire Flip and get somebody who can get the players respect!

Mr.Bottomtooth
08-11-2006, 09:32 PM
In his mind he's really thinking to score 40 on the Bulls.

Rip-Hamilton32
08-11-2006, 10:29 PM
i can't wait to see the sheed vs ben match up..sheed is gonna light him up for 20+

Nikos
08-11-2006, 11:13 PM
Ben Wallace leaving is pretty significant. Nazr could rebound like Ben and could be more effective on offense. But Ben is vastly superior in terms of defense in general. As a help defender he is elite, and he is even superior as a man defender. So Nazr is a sizable downgrade.

The Pistons will still be an excellent team and maybe make the finals if the Heat slip, and other teams don't get sigificantly stronger. Basically if the east is weak the Pistons could easily win it. Chemistry does count for a lot however, and Detroit will still be a Top 6 team most likely depending on health of other teams (Amare, Shaq etc...).

But I don't see Detroit winning the title, I would take 3-4 teams easily over them if healthy. This season I saw them having a great opportunity and they were an excellent team -- but losing Ben makes them slip if anything. Unless their supporting cast outside of the BIG 4 bring a lot more to the table then most expect.

J.T.
08-11-2006, 11:54 PM
Yeah we should definitely be getting Sheed vs Ben on Christmas and no more of this stupid Kobe vs Shaq bullshit. The league better promote it as Kobe vs Wade or else I'm gonna puke (even PJ vs Riley would be better).

I respect what Rip says though. Good stuff. I think the Pistons will be back too but not to the Finals...at least not with Mohammed. We'll see though, I think they will surprise. Spurs vs Pistons for the gold in 07 would be sweet.

Rip-Hamilton32
08-12-2006, 12:05 AM
amen

Darrin
08-12-2006, 03:16 AM
Optimistic hogwash. The Nets were only together 3 years. The difference in the roster between the 1980 and 1990 Boston Celtics is night and day. The Pistons are a very good team. They are going to struggle to find their identity this season. They will have trouble rebounding this season. We have yet to see any of the current Pistons without Ben Wallace. When that usually happens, there's a period of adjustment.

Vinnie_Johnson
08-12-2006, 10:05 AM
Yeah we should definitely be getting Sheed vs Ben on Christmas and no more of this stupid Kobe vs Shaq bullshit. The league better promote it as Kobe vs Wade or else I'm gonna puke (even PJ vs Riley would be better).

I respect what Rip says though. Good stuff. I think the Pistons will be back too but not to the Finals...at least not with Mohammed. We'll see though, I think they will surprise. Spurs vs Pistons for the gold in 07 would be sweet.

I would love to see Sheed vs Ben Ben can't guard Sheed Ben is a help defender not a man on man defender.

1Parker1
08-12-2006, 10:28 AM
In his mind he's really thinking to score 40 on the Bulls.

:lol

Rip-Hamilton32
08-12-2006, 10:48 AM
I would love to see Sheed vs Ben Ben can't guard Sheed Ben is a help defender not a man on man defender. thats true but we will probaly try to guard him on his own just because he thinks he knows what sheed is thinking..sheed will take him to the top of the circle and knock a three down over him

Mr.Bottomtooth
08-12-2006, 11:00 AM
Sheed should make Ben guard him out on the 3 so that Brown and Tyrus could take over the paint.

G-Money
08-13-2006, 02:56 PM
Pistons are still an elite team with or with out Ben Wallace.

I like when some people say that the pistons era is over. Who knows Ben leaving maybe the best thing that has happened to Detroit and my might win 2 more championships with out him.

But yeah I can still see the Pistons winning the championship in 07. The Pistons are far
from being done.

DarkReign
08-14-2006, 09:39 AM
I am reserving judgement until the season starts. I have no idea what the Flip-stons will look like without Big Ben.

Sorry, but the guy was the true heart and soul. The heart and the soul.

DirkAB
08-14-2006, 10:10 AM
Sheed and Big Ben won't be guarding each other much, why is everybody in this thread acting like they will be going head to head? Nazr v. Big Ben & Sheed v. P.J. Brown, I highly doubt that the Wallace boys would spend much time at all guarding each other.