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CharlieMac
08-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Bad, 95% of the time......

BigDaddyMatty
08-12-2006, 01:06 PM
I heard that Match Point was pretty good.

1Parker1
08-12-2006, 01:21 PM
I heard that Match Point was pretty good.

:tu It was...probably because of Scarlett and Jonathan Rhese Myers.

CharlieMac
08-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Negative.

Manhattan was good though. I saw Melinda and Melinda this morning and that shitty one with Jason Biggs yesterday........pretty bad flicks.

I overreacted, everything as of late is pretty bad. He had a pretty good decade between 75 and 85 it seems.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
08-12-2006, 02:00 PM
:tu It was...probably because of Scarlett and Jonathan Rhese Myers.


Blasphemy. I wanted to carve my eyes out of my head with a spoon...

Squid
08-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Every Woody Allen movie I've seen sucks.

CuckingFunt
08-12-2006, 02:06 PM
Blasphemy. I wanted to carve my eyes out of my head with a spoon...
Ditto. That movie just made me uncomfortable.

ChumpDumper
08-12-2006, 02:38 PM
I can't think of anyone who is more overrated.

ShoogarBear
08-12-2006, 02:43 PM
His classic straight comedies are good: Sleeper, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex, Bananas, Love and Death. His "dramas" are vastly overrated.

slayermin
08-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Purple Rose of Cairo is one of my favorite films.

polandprzem
08-12-2006, 02:51 PM
Awards, nominations and distinctions

Over the course of his career Allen has received a considerable number of awards and distinctions in film festivals and yearly national film awards ceremonies, saluting his work as a director, screenwriter and actor[3]. When premiering his films at festivals, Allen does not screen his motion pictures in competition, thus deliberately taking them out of consideration for possible awards.
Allen won the 1978 O. Henry Award for his short story "The Kugelmass Episode" published in The New Yorker on May 2, 1977.
Allen twice won the César Award for Best Foreign Film, the first in 1980 for Manhattan and the second in 1986 for The Purple Rose of Cairo. Seven other of his movies were nominated for the prize.
In 1986, Allen won the Golden Globe for Best Screenplay for The Purple Rose of Cairo. He was also nominated four times as Best Director, four times for Best Screenplay and twice for Best Actor (Comedy/musical).
At the 1995 Venice Film Festival, Allen received a Career Golden Lion for lifetime achievement.
In 1996, Allen received a lifetime achievement award from the Directors Guild of America.
In 2002 Allen won the Prince of Asturias Award. Subsequently, the town of Oviedo, Spain erected a life-size statue of Allen. [12]
In 2002, Allen received the Palme des Palmes, a special lifetime achievement award granted by the Cannes Festival and whose sole other recipient is Ingmar Bergman [7].
In a 2005 poll The Comedian's Comedian, Allen was voted the third greatest comedy act ever by fellow comedians and comedy insiders.
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Oscars

Woody Allen has more Academy Award nominations (14) for best screenplay (original or adapted) than any other writer and is tied for fifth all-time in the directing category with six nominations. Annie Hall and Hannah and Her Sisters were nominated for best picture although, as is the tradition at the Academy, the film's producers are the recipients in that category. Annie Hall won four Academy Awards (including Best Picture and Best Director) while Hannah and Her Sisters won three, including Best Screenplay for Allen. His actors were also among the frequently nominated in their respective categories and Allen himself was nominated for his role in Annie Hall.
1977 — Won — Academy Award for Best Director — Annie Hall
1977 — Won — Academy Award for Writing Original Screenplay — Annie Hall (with Marshall Brickman)
1986 — Won — Academy Award for Writing Original Screenplay — Hannah and Her Sisters
Nominated for the Academy Award for Writing Original Screenplay for Interiors, Manhattan (with Marshall Brickman), Broadway Danny Rose, The Purple Rose of Cairo, Radio Days, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Alice, Husbands and Wives, Bullets Over Broadway (with Douglas McGrath), Mighty Aphrodite, Deconstructing Harry, Match Point.
Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Director for Interiors, Broadway Danny Rose, Hannah and Her Sisters, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Bullets Over Broadway.
Nominated for the Best Actor in a Leading Role in Annie Hall.


BAFTA

Allen has garnered a number of British Academy of Film and Television Arts (BAFTA) awards and nominations for best picture, best director, best actor and best screenplay. In 1997, he received the honorary BAFTA Fellowship for his work.
1978 — Won — Best Film — Annie Hall
1978 — Won — Best Screenplay — Annie Hall (with Marshall Brickman)
1978 — Won — Best Direction — Annie Hall
1980 — Won — Best Film — Manhattan
1980 — Won — Best Screenplay — Manhattan (with Marshall Brickman)
1985 — Won — Best Screenplay — Broadway Danny Rose
1986 — Won — Best Film — The Purple Rose of Cairo
1986 — Won — Best Screenplay — The Purple Rose of Cairo
1987 — Won — Best Screenplay — Hannah and Her Sisters
1987 — Won — Best Direction — Hannah and Her Sisters
1993 — Won — Best Screenplay — Husbands and Wives
Nominated for best film for Hannah and Her Sisters, Radio Days, Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Nominated for best actor for Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and Her Sisters.
Nominated for best director for Manhattan, Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Nominated for best screenplay for Zelig, Radio Days, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Bullets Over Broadway (with Douglas McGrath).



source - wikipedia

midgetonadonkey
08-12-2006, 04:57 PM
Woody Allen blows cock.

Spurminator
08-12-2006, 05:18 PM
I can't think of anyone who is more overrated.

If anyone is, they're probably from New York too.

The only Woody Allen movie I've ever seen is Annie Hall. I liked it okay, but can't say I remember it much.

leemajors
08-12-2006, 07:02 PM
I can't think of anyone who is more overrated.

one of my professors claimed he was the most famous psuedo intellectual he could think of.

Kori Ellis
08-12-2006, 07:06 PM
Bad, 95% of the time......

Closer to 100%.

Woody Allen sucks.

ChumpDumper
08-12-2006, 07:12 PM
one of my professors claimed he was the most famous psuedo intellectual he could think of.He is the most famous pseudo-intellectual pedophile I can think of.

CuckingFunt
08-13-2006, 01:19 AM
Woody Allen blows cock.
I know of a little Korean girl who'd dispute that.

AlamoSpursFan
08-13-2006, 01:25 AM
Bananas was worth a chuckle or two. The translator who translated his English into heavily-Spanish accented English was funny, as was Howard Cosell's bedroom play-by-play.

Otherwise, I can do without Woody Allen.

Zombie
08-13-2006, 01:31 AM
A pedophile only makes Porn! :rolleyes

Condemned 2 HelLA
08-13-2006, 05:20 AM
The next funny movie Woody Allen makes will be the first funny movie Woody Allen makes.
This guy's alleged comedy genius is so far beyond overrated it defies logic.

ORION
08-13-2006, 09:09 PM
woody allen is a sick bastard who doesn't deserve anything other than an ass tearin

Guru of Nothing
08-13-2006, 10:28 PM
I'll pile on too, except to say that Take the Money and Run was pretty funny. Classic seen when he was in prison and carved a gun out of soap, only get caught in the rain and have his "gun" suds up in his hand.

Jimcs50
08-14-2006, 08:42 AM
Wrong.

These are good movies:




Match Point

Small Time Crooks (stupid, but funny)

Mighty Aphrodite

Crimes and Misdemeanors

Hannah and Her Sisters

The Purple Rose of Cairo

Broadway Danny Rose

A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy

Manhattan

Annie Hall

Love and Death

Sleeper

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask
... aka Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (USA: short title)

Bananas



His newest movie, Scoop is getting great reviews as well, and with Scarlet Johanson again in it, it can not be too bad.

CharlieMac
08-14-2006, 08:51 AM
Matchpoint was horrible.

IX_Equilibrium
08-14-2006, 09:44 AM
For people who think Will Smith is actually funny, yeah, they wouldn't get Allen's comedy.

CharlieMac
08-14-2006, 09:47 AM
For people who think Will Smith is actually funny, yeah, they wouldn't get Allen's comedy.

You obviously missed the episode where Will accidentally gives Carlton those speed pills at the dance. Naturally, hilarity ensued. Hilarity that you don't seem to appreciate.

Jimcs50
08-14-2006, 09:47 AM
For people who think Will Smith is actually funny, yeah, they wouldn't get Allen's comedy.

I agree, you either get it or you don't...I think it is an innate trait.

IX_Equilibrium
08-14-2006, 09:51 AM
I agree, you either get it or you don't...I think it is an innate trait.


I think it has to do with mainstream American filmmaking and comedy. Everything is insipid, spoonfed, and predictable. That is what most are used to and dissapointed if they don't get it.

DarkReign
08-14-2006, 09:53 AM
Woody Allen movies.......

suck.

/thread

CharlieMac
03-24-2007, 10:06 AM
I've actually been think about this the past few months since I made this thread.

I read Woody Allen on Woody Allen and it gives some more insight to his movies. Bananas was worth a chuckle. He was just kind of early whiney emo after Bananas. Especially the whole Annie Hall era. Interiors sucked.

I'm actually doing a paper on antipathy towards Woody Allen in the general population, so this thread was a help.

Anyone else hate or love him?Maybe you just want to punch him in the face. Why? Is it because he hit up a young Diane Keaton?

T Park
03-25-2007, 12:10 AM
ive never thought of him to be funny, but scoop is the only movie i've ever seen him in, and that was a decent movie.

He was "moderately" funny.

moderately funny like billy madison was "moderately" funny.

trueD
03-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Take The Money And Run was hilarious on massive does of Panama Red at age 15.

Guru of Nothing
03-25-2007, 12:42 AM
Take The Money And Run was hilarious on massive does of Panama Red at age 15.

Precisely

Maybe not the first, but it's the earliest mockumentary that I know of, off the top of my head.

Many great scenes. As already mentioned, the suds "gun"; playing cello in a marching band; parents being interviewed with fake nose and mustaches; two gangs trying to rob the same bank at the same time.

But still, all in all, Woody Allen is first and foremost an annoyance of the highest order. Don't let his New Yorkness throw you, he's just a hick.

SRJ
03-25-2007, 12:58 AM
I haven't seen a particularly insightful critique of Woody Allen, and of course no one here is obliged to provide one - but this man has created a great number of cinematic classics, and if he sucks or is overrated, who isn't??

I'll grant that he hasn't been particularly sharp during this decade, but from 1975-2000 he created a metric ton of quality cinema:

Love And Death
Annie Hall
Manhattan
Hannah And Her Sisters
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Husbands And Wives
Deconstructing Harry

I'd be very surprised if you Woody bashers didn't hop on the bandwagon after watching one of the above films. At the very least, you may acknowledge the quality of the work even if it doesn't fit your tastes.

A Woody Allen movie is rich with realistic dialogue, moving character studies, wonderfully on-point satire of the power elite, and timeless cinematography. Good luck finding three directors who can match him.

trueD
03-25-2007, 01:01 AM
I haven't seen a particularly insightful critique of Woody Allen, and of course no one here is obliged to provide one - but this man has created a great number of cinematic classics, and if he sucks or is overrated, who isn't??

I'll grant that he hasn't been particularly sharp during this decade, but from 1975-2000 he created a metric ton of quality cinema:

Love And Death
Annie Hall
Manhattan
Hannah And Her Sisters
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Husbands And Wives
Deconstructing Harry

I'd be very surprised if you Woody bashers didn't hop on the bandwagon after watching one of the above films. At the very least, you may acknowledge the quality of the work even if it doesn't fit your tastes.

A Woody Allen movie is rich with realistic dialogue, moving character studies, wonderfully on-point satire of the power elite, and timeless cinematography. Good luck finding three directors who can match him.
I totally just saw Woody Allen saying this, all of it, and it was hilarious!

pjjrfan
03-25-2007, 03:24 AM
love and death is one of my all time favorites. A lot of great funny lines.

CharlieMac
03-25-2007, 09:35 AM
I haven't seen a particularly insightful critique of Woody Allen, and of course no one here is obliged to provide one - but this man has created a great number of cinematic classics, and if he sucks or is overrated, who isn't??

I'll grant that he hasn't been particularly sharp during this decade, but from 1975-2000 he created a metric ton of quality cinema:

Love And Death
Annie Hall
Manhattan
Hannah And Her Sisters
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Husbands And Wives
Deconstructing Harry

I'd be very surprised if you Woody bashers didn't hop on the bandwagon after watching one of the above films. At the very least, you may acknowledge the quality of the work even if it doesn't fit your tastes.

A Woody Allen movie is rich with realistic dialogue, moving character studies, wonderfully on-point satire of the power elite, and timeless cinematography. Good luck finding three directors who can match him.

God damn, I typed up a whole response, then my comp went blank. The screen just turned white and I had to shut down. I dont know what that was about.

I've flip-flopped between liking him and thinking he's an asshole with each movie I've seen.

Like I said, Bananas was great. Love and Death was great. Much to Woody's dismay, I liked his early funny works.

However, I can understand why so many people dislike him and his characters in some of his movies. It's really hard to feel for a guy like Isaac Davis in Manhattan. A white, well educated, financially stable, middle aged writer with so many self made problems? One of them being that fact that he is dating a 17 year old girl in high school. Who, he then dumps when when he decides to date his bestfriend's former mistress on the rebound. Then to top that off, he gets dumped by her and tries to win the 17 year old back and stop her from going off to college so he can be with her. Although, it seems the 17 year old girl was the most mature character in the film to be fair.

Speaking of power elite, that's exactly the category he fits into when Stardust Memories rolls around. He knows it too, because that seems to be what that movie is about from start to fiinish. How rough it was being a celebrity for him and how no one understood him. Plus, notice how hideous every character is in that movie (due to lighting, character and so on), while he and his women (plural) all manage to be the only ones that look good? I'll admit though, the Fellini influence is funny at times. Especially during the press conferences with everyone's faces.

Lets not forget the teenage fan he sleeps with, and also he is accused of flirting with (Dorie's 13 year old cousin). There's obviously an issue with him and young, girls.

Alvy Singer was a great character in Annie Hall. I know everyone made a big deal about Annie herself, but despite her great character, Alvy takes teh show. Once again, he was a comedian/minor celebrity trying to make it in everyday life, but atleast he had some great, GREAT one-liners in this movie.

Also, what's the deal with minorities in his films. I dont know how NYC and Manhattan REALLY are, but I'm guessing there is more than one black person there. It seems like the only black character he casted in that era was the mover working for him in the movie Manhattan. In bananas, every ethnic character was a joke. I realize he doesnt live in Queens or the Bronx or Harlem, but I assume that Manhattan is a little more diverse.

Interiors was great and touched on a very personal deep subject. I did like the cinenamatography in that movie and those it was more appropiate for a movie like that than Manhattan. The funny thing is thats one of the movies that Woody dislikes and wishes he do over. Every character was so important in that movie.

CharlieMac
03-25-2007, 09:43 AM
I think it has to do with mainstream American filmmaking and comedy. Everything is insipid, spoonfed, and predictable. That is what most are used to and dissapointed if they don't get it.


Oh, people get it. The funny thing is that it seems his characters became predictable after a while. This goes back to the 70's, not just now.

Although, there are a number of literary references he jokes about in his early films that I dont get. I'm an English major too, so it's not that I haven't been around. Those are just writers, satirists, and filmmakers from a different era that he refers to so much.

I still want to know WHY people dislike him though. He sucks is unacceptable and kind of backs up the "people don't get him" claims. With good reason too.

mrsmaalox
03-25-2007, 01:28 PM
Mighty Aphrodite is one of my favorite films; his casting of Mira Sorvino as "Judy Cum" was brilliance. Manhattan Murder Mystery was a bust, but I think it might be a good starting point for someone who doesn't care for Woody to get a taste. There are fewer characters, milder tempo, more "mainstream" storyline. I liked it, you might too.

ShoogarBear
03-25-2007, 02:11 PM
eriks,

Your post pretty much hit how I feel about Allen.

I liked it when he was just trying to be silly/funny, with an intellectual bent.

When he tried to do the reverse, his elitism and egoism were increasingly apparent. And for somebody who makes a big deal of how much he likes jazz and basketball, his lack of diversity in his characters (which as far as I know wasn't broken until Melinda and Melinda) was striking.

Viva Las Espuelas
03-25-2007, 02:39 PM
he's not the best, but I like some of his movies. Everything you wanted to know about sex is funny. Especially the gene wilder doctor part. Mighty Aphrodite is pretty good also. If you don't like a whole lot of dialogue and love the "hollywood"-blow-everything-up-instead-of-having-a-plot type movie, then woody allen ain't for you. He's a one camera guy and isn't very A.D.D. friendly.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 03:23 PM
im guessing that at least 90% of the posters in this threads idea of a film classic is "the boondock saints."

can't believe the near unanimous hate for woody allen here. his stuff is always interesting and worth checking out. it might not always rise to the level of greatness, but it'll always spur a few interesting thoughts/conversations.

Viva Las Espuelas
03-25-2007, 04:16 PM
im guessing that at least 90% of the posters in this threads idea of a film classic is "the boondock saints."ha. you're probably right. my ex-roommate told me about that movie. he built it up so much, and when i finally saw it, i wanted to laugh. it's a highly overrated movie. it must be an irish thing.

monosylab1k
03-25-2007, 04:43 PM
Woody Allen definitely used to be great. The fact that he's been rehashing the exact same jokes for 20 years leaves something to be desired, however.

monosylab1k
03-25-2007, 04:51 PM
im guessing that at least 90% of the posters in this threads idea of a film classic is "the boondock saints."

can't believe the near unanimous hate for woody allen here. his stuff is always interesting and worth checking out. it might not always rise to the level of greatness, but it'll always spur a few interesting thoughts/conversations.

You sound like the type of douchebag who enjoys sipping a nice latte at some random coffee shop with your little buddies who wear Castro hats, a Che Guevara t-shirt, chin pubes, and light brown corduroy sport coats with dark brown elbow patches while you all discuss pseudo-intellectual babble about the difference between Truffaut vs. Godard, how the greatest American director is John Cassavettes, what a sellout Cronenberg is for doing History Of Violence.

But you're right, Boondock Saints sucked big time.

Mavschick
03-25-2007, 05:24 PM
"Mighty Aphrodite" was ok, but you can tell by the quality of his subsequent works that Woody spends more time banging his daughter than on his movies.

Guru of Nothing
03-25-2007, 05:45 PM
im guessing that at least 90% of the posters in this threads idea of a film classic is "the boondock saints."


I'm guessing that your opinions are subscribed.

We could both be wrong.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:01 PM
You sound like the type of douchebag who enjoys sipping a nice latte at some random coffee shop with your little buddies who wear Castro hats, a Che Guevara t-shirt, chin pubes, and light brown corduroy sport coats with dark brown elbow patches while you all discuss pseudo-intellectual babble about the difference between Truffaut vs. Godard, how the greatest American director is John Cassavettes, what a sellout Cronenberg is for doing History Of Violence.

But you're right, Boondock Saints sucked big time.

haha....i have to admit that that was pretty funny

ShoogarBear
03-25-2007, 06:02 PM
douchebagAmazing how often that word comes up in threads where pussyface posts.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:03 PM
You sound like the type of douchebag who enjoys sipping a nice latte at some random coffee shop with your little buddies who wear Castro hats, a Che Guevara t-shirt, chin pubes, and light brown corduroy sport coats with dark brown elbow patches while you all discuss pseudo-intellectual babble about the difference between Truffaut vs. Godard, how the greatest American director is John Cassavettes, what a sellout Cronenberg is for doing History Of Violence.

But you're right, Boondock Saints sucked big time.

...i enjoy Kafka and Jack Kerouc. I listen to Sonic Youth and go to Jim Jarmusch films.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Amazing how often that word comes up in threads where pussyface posts.

so now im a douche bag for sticking up for woody allen? well than, I guess that makes me a douche bag. for some reason i think he is a better auteur than the one's you like such as james cameron, michael bay, and whoever directed 2 Fast 2 Furious.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:06 PM
I'm guessing that your opinions are subscribed.

We could both be wrong.

"your opinions are subscribed."

what the fuck does that mean?

Guru of Nothing
03-25-2007, 06:29 PM
"your opinions are subscribed."

what the fuck does that mean?

Gawd I suck at word roots; maybe I meant to say "prescribed." There is some gray area.

Thankfully, I lack the desire to care about it all.

ShoogarBear
03-25-2007, 06:34 PM
so now im a douche bag for sticking up for woody allen? well than, I guess that makes me a douche bag. for some reason i think he is a better auteur than the one's you like such as james cameron, michael bay, and whoever directed 2 Fast 2 Furious.You're not a douchbag for sticking up for Woody Allen. You're a douchebag because you can't do it (or anything else, it seems) without making some asinine and presumptive comment about other people's tastes.

And to back me up, you just did it again.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:50 PM
You're not a douchbag for sticking up for Woody Allen. You're a douchebag because you can't do it (or anything else, it seems) without making some asinine and presumptive comment about other people's tastes.

And to back me up, you just did it again.

if the charge is being provocative and definitive rather than wishy-washy in the opinions I present on an internet message board, than I am guilty as charged.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 06:54 PM
You're not a douchbag for sticking up for Woody Allen. You're a douchebag because you can't do it (or anything else, it seems) without making some asinine and presumptive comment about other people's tastes.

And to back me up, you just did it again.

if i was a betting man, I would bet that there is a high correlation between people who post online about thinking woody allen is the worst of the worst and people who think the boondock saints is a great movie.

....thats just how it is.
moving forward, i'll try to be more bland and milktoast in the future.

ShoogarBear
03-25-2007, 07:02 PM
No matter what, you'll still be an asshole.

pussyface
03-25-2007, 08:13 PM
No matter what, you'll still be an asshole.

I believe it was Bob Dylan who said"if you've never been boo'd, you haven't done anything yet."

Guru of Nothing
03-25-2007, 08:21 PM
I believe it was Bob Dylan who said"if you've never been boo'd, you haven't done anything yet."



Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is
To see you

E20
03-25-2007, 11:24 PM
I just saw the movie Annie Hall in film clas the other day. It was okay, some of the jokes were funny, others weren't.

pussyface
03-26-2007, 01:42 PM
i am a big fan of the dialogue-driven comedy, a genre of which Woody Allen is the acknowledged master.