Argentina VS Spain

[spursparker9]

slovenia just beat serbia,

So now in the Phillip Singapore Cup tournament...

Slo - 1 win , 2 loss
Ser - 1 win , 2 loss
Arg - 1 win , 1 loss
Esp - 2 win , 0 loss

Argentina vs Spain starting soon....if spain won again, then they won the tournament

[furry_spurry]

Expect Spain to shoot a ton of free throws.

[Slo spurs fan]

WTF are referees on Spain side everywhere on the globe? Are they something special?

[Renu_]

Commentator said Slovenia two times and not Slovania.. did you hear that?? :lol

[spursparker9]

14 - 7 spain lead, 4 min left in 1st quarter

back to back to back 3 pointers by spain team push the lead to 7

[Slo spurs fan]

Spain will kill Argies with 3 pointers.

[Slo spurs fan]

Gino with a lot missed shots and a couple of TO´s in first 5-6 minutes.

[Slo spurs fan]

Finnaly first points for Gino!

[Slo spurs fan]

19-11 Spain

[spursparker9]

23 - 18 spain leads, end of 1st quarter

[Slo spurs fan]

23-18 Spain, end of 1st qtr

[Slo spurs fan]

Scola 4 pts
23-20

[Slo spurs fan]

reyes 2pts
reyes and one
28-20

[Slo spurs fan]

farabello 3 pointer
28-23

[SLOVENIAN 8]

this Spain is killing everyone wit that 3pt :lol :lol

[Slo spurs fan]

Reyes 9 pts (ownes Argies)
35-25 5 min. left

[Slo spurs fan]

5-0 run by Arg

[Slo spurs fan]

Another 3 for Spain
38-30

[Slo spurs fan]

3 poiners rain!
38-33

[Slo spurs fan]

gino layup
38-35
another 3 pointer for spain
41-35

[Slo spurs fan]

gasol 10 points
43-35

[Slo spurs fan]

Gino with TO and foul on Gasol

[SLOVENIAN 8]

This Spains will be World Champs if they continue playing like this...

[Slo spurs fan]

Gino missed 3 pointer

[Slo spurs fan]

45-35 1 min left

[Slo spurs fan]

Navarro (8 points) layup in final second
47-35
End of 1st half

[spursparker9]

47 - 35 spain
halftime

[Slo spurs fan]

Gino is trying hard (maybe to hard?), but nothing is going his way.
He made a lot of TO´s and missed shots.
I hope he will pick up his game in second half.
Spain made a lot of(open) shots for 3 points due a good moving w/o the ball and making extra passes.

[Slo spurs fan]

Start of 2nd half.
Gasol 13 pts
49-35

[Slo spurs fan]

Spain 61% FG
53-37

[Slo spurs fan]

Navarro 3 (13pts)
Gino 2 (8)
56-39

[Slo spurs fan]

Gino 2 pts (10)
58-41

[Slo spurs fan]

6 min left in 3rd q
Rodrigues 2 pts
Navarro 2 pts (17)
62-41

[SLOVENIAN 8]

Spain owns Argentina , they cant do shit

[Slo spurs fan]

Argentina is completley lost in this game.
Manu to the bench.
66-44
4 min left

[zeleni]

Argentina lost all the jumpshooting luck with us, it seems.

[Slo spurs fan]

Argentina completley failed to play like a team. All thair attacks are one on one or one on five!!!???!!??
71-50

[Slo spurs fan]

Argentina lost all the jumpshooting luck with us, it seems.
This is becouse they forgot how to pass the ball.

[Slo spurs fan]

75-51
end of 3rd qtr

[Slo spurs fan]

Last 2 three point attempts for Arg didn´t even hit the rim.

[Slo spurs fan]

Manu for 2 (12 pts)
79-57

[Slo spurs fan]

Navarro for 3 (20pts)

[Slo spurs fan]

Manu for 2 (14)

[Slo spurs fan]

Spain only 5 TOs

[Slo spurs fan]

Block by Manu!

[Slo spurs fan]

82-61
3 min left

[Slo spurs fan]

Oberto 2FT, one good (3 pts, 3 rebs)

[Slo spurs fan]

Fabricio slam dunk
85-66
last min.

[Slo spurs fan]

87-66 Spain
Final.

[orhe]

yep that number 11 guy for argentina (the PG) he sucks...
and all the others excepf for nocioni,scola, manu and oberto were so indecisive... if arg does not improve on this its gonna be hard... anyway that Navarro guy was lighting it up

[Renu_]

They should really move out further the 3point line, if not for other reason then for Navarro.. he thinks this is free throws! :lol

[SpursWillOwn]

HEY I CANT BELIEVE IT.. I WAITED OuTSIDE THE STADIUM FOR MANU SOMEWHERE AROUND ARGENTINA'S BUS.. AND HE SHOOK MY HANDS!!!!!! aww god damn im so excited.. o yeah and Pau Gasol is a great guy.. gave everyone an autograph.. he signed mine on my shirt.. woot! delfino as well..

[Martin R]

Spain is CLEARLY superior to Argentina this time around. They play EASY basket, they dont force anything....they really showed CLASS and Argentina suffered.

Maybe US team can beat them? not sure. Spain remains to prove they can win under REAL WC pressure though.

[SpursWillOwn]

yea.. the 3 point play of carlos delfino is the most bizarre thing i've seen in this tournament.. the referee is a communist

[orhe]

hehe btw that Manu block on Calderon was the shit!!!! someone should upload it

[furry_spurry]

The Spanish media said that Slovenia gave their team the best competition so far. Hope that bodes well for the Slovenian team. :) I wish that game had been broadcast. I would have loved to have seen that first half.

[ALVAREZ6]

:wtf


Argentina is screwed.

[zeleni]

Argentina is not screwed. Most of the players are just not motivated enough. They will be, after this defeat. Spain is not that great, if a inspired team attacks. Argentina has prepaired mostly on the defensive end.

[ALVAREZ6]

Argentina is not screwed. Most of the players are just not motivated enough. They will be, after this defeat. Spain is not that great, if a inspired team attacks. Argentina has prepaired mostly on the defensive end.
Well they aren't impressing anyone with all of these blowout losses. I hope they don't get accustomed to getting their asses kicked around like this, and develop an excuse to play shitty.

[SpursWillOwn]

c'mon man.. this is jus the Philips Singapore fucking cup.. im with the argentines! gona buy their jersey.. ALVAREZ6 do u have any?

[orhe]

oh spain is for real... and argentina was playing seriously (ehr not so sure with scola but he wasn't involved enough) their offense is getting a little stagnant and stuff they have a size disadvantage... its gonna be tough and a HUGE chunk of the effort will come from Manu...

[SpursWillOwn]

navarro is the killer.. he gets his teammates involved.. penetrates the defence and finds the open man

[TMTTRIO]

hehe btw that Manu block on Calderon was the shit!!!! someone should upload it
This was posted on Manu's website by Tony CBA. Yeah I'm wondering what's going on with Argentina. I thought they'd be our biggest threat but they haven't been playing well at all along with Manu hasn't been playing great either (they're going to need him to play better). I'm kind of wondering if after the WC's if they don't do well if Manu's going to think about retiring from international competition. There was an article how this might be the last time they're all together and I know he's said recently it depends on how everything goes right now.
http://mundotonycba.webcindario.com/TAPA-MANU.gif

[Nikos]

Does anyone know where to find this game online? Some of you seem to act like you saw it, how and where?

[SpursWillOwn]

watched it live..

[Nikos]

Is Navarro NBA material? It seems like he gets no lift on his shot and it would be hard to get off in the NBA. What do you think?

[ALVAREZ6]

c'mon man.. this is jus the Philips Singapore fucking cup.. im with the argentines! gona buy their jersey.. ALVAREZ6 do u have any?
I have the one they wore in Athens, it's different from the ones they wear now. The shorts are different and the sides of the jerseys. I personally like the 2004 ones better.

[orhe]

No idea if he's NBA material but it depends on what purpose he would serve...

he's like a smaller but way better version of brent barry :)

[xamila rey]

i am getting worried.

[SpursWillOwn]

he(navarro)'s drafted by Washington Wizards anyway.. but he chose to stay with FC barcelona

[Nikos]

he(navarro)'s drafted by Washington Wizards anyway.. but he chose to stay with FC barcelona

What do you think? Is he good enough to make noise in the NBA? Or was he just good at using picks?

[diego]

I may be wrong, but I dont think Spain has ever won a major sporting competition (footie WC, basketball, rugby, volleyball, maybe individual olympic sports??) in its history.

They always do well, qualify, proclaim themselves champs, then fall apart in elimination games. I expect no different this time around :)

[angel_luv]

Argentina has a good team. I am sure they will be strong in the W.C. Believe. :)

[ALVAREZ6]

Pictures from the game:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/27/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_9_15_20_am.jpg
Luis Scola and the other Gasol

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/7d/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_9_10_18_am.jpg
Manu and Jorge Garbajosa

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/ba/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_9_07_58_am.jpg
Carlos Delfino and Rudy Fernandez

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/44/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_9_04_31_am.jpg
Fabri and Pau

[ALVAREZ6]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/ed/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_8_56_27_am.jpg
Manu, Calderon, Garbajosa

[ALVAREZ6]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/7d/full.getty-basket-sin-esp-arg_8_53_11_am.jpg

:lmao @ Garbajosa

[angel_luv]

ty for the pics Alvie. :)

[ALVAREZ6]

ty for the pics Alvie. :)
Thank Yahoo.

[spurschick]

Manu Ginóbili: "Vamos a crecer durante el torneo"

Basically Manu saying that they haven't played well since they left Argentina, but they know they can play better and, while he doesn't expect them to be at their best against France in the opener, he expects them to get better during the tournament. He also says that they really need to work on defense and that will be their focus in the last 4 days of training.

Luego de la derrota de Argentina ante España por 87-66 en la Copa Singapur, el bahiense se mostró preocupado pr el rendiemiento del equipo. "No estoy para nada tranquilo, porque no jugamos bien desde que salimos de la Argentina, pero tampoco soy pesimista, ya que podemos levantar el nivel", explicó.

La derrota de Argentina ante España (87-66), la segunda en siete días, trajo preocupación en algunos hombres del conjunto del Oveja Hernández. Emanuel Ginóbili, la gran figura del equipo, dijo: "No estoy para nada tranquilo, porque no jugamos bien desde que salimos de la Argentina, pero tampoco soy pesimista, ya que podemos levantar el nivel".

"Me hubiese gustado terminar mejor la preparación, pero confío que a la hora de los partidos del Mundial vamos a jugar mejor, vamos a crecer durante el torneo", indicó. Y agregó que "seguramente en el debut contra Francia no estaremos en el mejor nivel, pero sí vamos a acercarnos a lo que pretendemos".

Con respecto al funcionamiento del equipo en estos partidos previos al inicio del Mundial, Manu comentó: "Nos falta equilibrio, pero la prioridad es la defensa. Si defendés bien, te ponés positivo y eso se traslada al ataque. En la ofensivas podés fallar, pero no en defensa. Eso es lo que debemos buscar en los 4 días de entrenamiento que nos quedan en Sendai".

Por su parte, Sergio Hernández comentó: "Está claro que España en los dos partidos fue muy superior a nosotros. Nos superó tan claramente que nos sacó de la cancha, pero esto no lo hizo sólo con nosotros. Ellos están invictos en su preparación y ganaron casi siempre por mucha diferencia".

"Contra ellos nunca pudimos llegar en juego al cierre del partido. Seguimos fallando en ataque, pero la paciencia y el pase extra no sirven si no conseguimos tiros con ventaja. No esperaba que nos sucediera esto. Dependerá de nuestra inteligencia para encontrar la solución y llegar al Mundial de la mejor manera", agregó.

El sábado próximo Argentina debutará en el Mundial de Japón ante Francia, a las 7 de nuestro país. Luego enfrentará a El Líbano, Venezuela, Nigeria y cerrará su participación en la primera fase ante Serbia y Montenegro.

[Cherry]

Manu Ginóbili: "Vamos a crecer durante el torneo"

Basically Manu saying that they haven't played well since they left Argentina, but they know they can play better and, while he doesn't expect them to be at their best against France in the opener, he expects them to get better during the tournament. He also says that they really need to work on defense and that will be their focus in the last 4 days of training.


Basically, the same situation before the olympics. I wish they can play at 80% the first game.

[smeagol]

Con respecto al funcionamiento del equipo en estos partidos previos al inicio del Mundial, Manu comentó: "Nos falta equilibrio, pero la prioridad es la defensa. Si defendés bien, te ponés positivo y eso se traslada al ataque. En la ofensivas podés fallar, pero no en defensa. Eso es lo que debemos buscar en los 4 días de entrenamiento que nos quedan en Sendai".
In this paragraph he is saying that D is key. "You can be sloppy on O but never on D. If you defend well, this will transalate into a good ofense".

Is Pop feeding him the lines? :lmao

[cheguevara]

I may be wrong, but I dont think Spain has ever won a major sporting competition (footie WC, basketball, rugby, volleyball, maybe individual olympic sports??) in its history.

They always do well, qualify, proclaim themselves champs, then fall apart in elimination games. I expect no different this time around :)

exactly. spain is usually soft and folds in the real competition.

[vanvannen]

Manu Ginóbili: "Vamos a crecer durante el torneo"

Basically Manu saying that they haven't played well since they left Argentina, but they know they can play better and, while he doesn't expect them to be at their best against France in the opener, he expects them to get better during the tournament. He also says that they really need to work on defense and that will be their focus in the last 4 days of training.


I love Manu and all, but this excuse is getting really old. The tournament starts in 4 days and they haven't done shit so far. I really don't see this Argie squad coming along quick enough to go past the first round. Spain on the other hand is looking very impressive. We'll see if they pull their usual disappearing act or the manage to get somewhere for a change.

[Quasar]

I attended the game - the atmosphere was quite drab due to the crappy announcer and the tame crowd.

Nevertheless, I was so excited to be getting my first sight of Manu, Oberto, Scola, and Pau Gasol that I didn't realise Argentina was getting drubbed by Spain.

The end score adequately reflected the state of matters.... Argentina seemed to be superior individually but had absolutely no team play - they ended up playing like the team usa's that were eliminated from the world championships.

Manu had a few nice moves, but didn't have much impact on the game. Scola took the game quite seriously and gave a few hard fouls after getting angry at losing by so much. However, he often seems to be out of position for rebounds which was critical as Spain was getting rebounds left and right. In my opinion, Nocioni was the one who made the least mistakes.

[carina_gino20]

i loved watching nocioni play. he plays with so much intensity even when he has the disadvantage in size.

[Quasar]

Oh yeah... forgot to say... that guy Navarro is *good*! He totally broke Delfino's (or was it Nocioni's?) ankles on a play and finished with a nice layup.

[SpursWillOwn]

chapu was funny.. he kept puffing on the court much like rasho