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CosmicCowboy
10-22-2004, 04:07 PM
this is a snip about tort reform from the debates:


NORMA-JEAN LAURENT: Senator Kerry, you've stated your concern for the rising cost of health care, yet you chose a vice presidential candidate who has made millions of dollars successfully suing medical professionals. How do you reconcile this with the voters?
KERRY: Very easily. John Edwards is the author of the Patients' Bill of Rights. He wanted to give people rights. John Edwards and I support tort reform. We both believe that, as lawyers -- I'm a lawyer, too. And I believe that we will be able to get a fix that has eluded everybody else because we know how to do it.

KERRY: It's in my health-care proposal. Go to johnkerry.com. You can pull it off of the Internet. And you'll find a tort reform plan.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, important to understand, the president and his friends try to make a big deal out of it. Is it a problem? Yes, it's a problem. Do we need to fix it, particularly for OGBYNs [sic] and for brain surgeons and others? Yes.


I went there looking for it and damned if I can find it...where the hell is it?

Useruser666
10-22-2004, 04:12 PM
try [email protected]

Shelly
10-22-2004, 04:12 PM
Only thing I saw (http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/)

CosmicCowboy
10-22-2004, 04:13 PM
ahhh...I found it...


Reduce Medical Malpractice Premiums. As president, John Kerry will require that a qualified specialist certifies a medical malpractice case's merit before it is allowed to move forward. He will also work with states to ensure the availability of non-binding mediation in all malpractice claims before cases proceed to trial. John Kerry will make the system fairer for doctors and patients alike by preventing and punishing frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers who file frivolous cases would face tough, mandatory sanctions, including a "three strikes and you're out" provision that forbids lawyers who file three frivolous cases from bringing another suit for the next 10 years. John Kerry also opposes punitive damages - unless intentional misconduct, gross negligence, or reckless indifference to life can be established. Finally, John Kerry will work to eliminate the special privileges that allow insurance companies to fix prices and collude in ways that increase medical malpractice premiums.

hmmm...if Bush gets elected and goes to Congress with the "Kerry/Edwards tort reform plan"...

do you think Democrats will vote for it?

whottt
10-22-2004, 04:13 PM
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/

Affordable, high-quality health care will keep our families healthy, our businesses competitive, and our country strong.
Over the last three years, family premiums have increased by more than $3,512 and prescription drug prices have grown four times faster than inflation. These skyrocketing costs have hurt our economy and forced many families into bankruptcy.

We deserve a president who understands that in America, regular check-ups shouldn't empty family checkbooks - a president who will put people ahead of insurance and drug companies.

John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to address soaring premiums and cut Americans a break. Their plan will lower family premiums by up to $1,000 a year, cut waste from the system, lower the cost of prescription drugs to provide real relief to seniors, and use targeted tax cuts to extend affordable, high-quality coverage to 95 percent of Americans, including every child. And because John Kerry and John Edwards believe that everyone's health is equally important, they will provide all Americans with access to the same coverage that members of Congress give themselves.

To make affordable health care a right - not a privilege - for every American, John Kerry and John Edwards will:

Cut Your Premiums
John Kerry and John Edwards will cut family premiums by up to $1,000. That's $1,000 in real savings people can use to buy groceries, pay the bills, and save for their children's future. And that will mean more jobs and more competitive American businesses.

Cover All Americans With Quality Care
The Kerry-Edwards plan will give every American access to the range of high-quality, affordable plans available to members of Congress and extend coverage to 95 percent of Americans, including every American child. Their plan will also fight to erase the health disparities that persist along racial and economic lines, ensure that people with HIV and AIDS have the care they need, end discrimination against Americans with disabilities and mental illnesses, and ensure equal treatment for mental illness in our health system.

Cut the Cost of Prescription Drugs
The Kerry-Edwards plan will reduce prescription drug prices by allowing the re-importation of safe prescription drugs from Canada, overhauling the Medicare drug plan, ensuring low-cost drugs, and ending artificial barriers to generic drug competition.

Cut Waste And Inefficiency
Today, approximately 25 percent of health care costs are wasted on paperwork and administrative processing. The Kerry-Edwards plan harnesses American ingenuity to cut waste, save billions, and take new steps to ensure patient privacy.

CommanderMcBragg
10-22-2004, 05:32 PM
CC, do your own research and make up your own mind.
Most everything posted in here is partisan one way or the other.

CrazyOne
10-22-2004, 06:48 PM
That sounds like a half-decent proposal... no way all the lawyers in DC will go for it.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:02 AM
That sounds like a half-decent proposal... no way all the lawyers in DC will go for it.

ummm....Kerry and Edwards are lawyers.

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:09 AM
LOL, boy are you naive.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:16 AM
I'm not big fan of Lawyers either, and you can deny it all you want, but lawyers are there to protect the people, the common man, from negligent loss by corportations or other individuals. Big corportate donors to the Republican Party are the amongst the biggest filers of frivolous lawsuits and the largest employers of lawyers.

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:20 AM
I work for a democrat defense and PI lawyer. He's pretty much a scumbag and so are all of his friends and so are all of the ones at the social gatherings he has.

Lawyers, especially PI lawyers, are all about the $$$ and nothing but...and most of them prey on the poor. Thier loyalty and principles are for sale. I agree they serve their function in our society, and even the guy I work for does a lot of good...but that's not his top priority, getting $$$ is...and that doesn't mean I want a pair of them running the country. They are most definitely better left regelated to special interest status.

I honestly think the prosecuting attorneys are the most principled attorneys, but it's not a huge difference.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:24 AM
...and a lame duck Governor is better? I know which Presidential candidate I would want representing me in court if my ass was on the line. So why should we expect any different for our country?

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:27 AM
Well, if you are worried about the economy, I'd want the guy that created most of his own wealth rather than the guy that married it....and if you are in a war go with the Texas Republican. It may not be pretty...but then sometimes you don't have that choice.

I agree, if I was in court I'd probably want...well I'd probably want Edwards over Kerry, the guy I work for his good at what he does and Edwards reminds me of him...an overgrown child with ADD but very smart, extremely convincing, and full of confidence.

Nbadan
10-23-2004, 02:48 AM
Well, if you are worried about the economy, I'd want the guy that created most of his own wealth rather than the guy that married it....

W ran every company he owned into the ground. He was lucky to turn a $500,000 investment into $14 million dollars with his little shcinanigans with the Texas Rangers, thank you CCC.

whottt
10-23-2004, 02:59 AM
Nontheless he did turn that 500k investment into 14 million dollars...actually he did a lot more than that...and he did it as the managing general partner and he was there every game with that ahole look on his face studying his team...No one will argue the Rangers are better off now than they were before he owned them.

Marcus Bryant
10-23-2004, 10:04 AM
W ran every company he owned into the ground. He was lucky to turn a $500,000 investment into $14 million dollars with his little shcinanigans with the Texas Rangers, thank you CCC.

So the man wasn't successful every time when he tried to make $ in that newfangled way: earning it. Kerry has the market cornered on that tried and true method: marrying 'it'. No doubt.