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Crookshanks
08-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Just saw on the Drudge Report that a man has been arrested in Bangkok, Thailand for the murder of Jon Benet Ramsey.

The article said the man had confessed to elements of the crime that were unknown to the public.

There was a TV show on the other day about the murder and I remarked to my daughter that I didn't think the crime would ever be solved. Hopefully, I am wrong!

Nbadan
08-16-2006, 04:12 PM
When did John Ramsey move to Bangkok?

:hat

boutons_
08-16-2006, 04:13 PM
CSI / Media Personality Forum

Ocotillo
08-16-2006, 04:14 PM
Drudge reports, hmmmmmm......

Hopefully justice will prevail.

Crookshanks
08-16-2006, 04:41 PM
Drudge reports, hmmmmmm......

The story came from the Rocky Mountain News and it is also being reported on msn.com.

You do know don't you that Drudge doesn't make up stories - they just link to the news sources.

sa_butta
08-16-2006, 04:42 PM
CNN) -- Authorities have arrested a possible suspect in the decade-old JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, law enforcement sources told CNN on Wednesday. An investigator with the Boulder County, Colorado, District Attorney's office is bringing the man from Bangkok, Thailand, CNN affiliate KUSA reported.

Sources told CBS News that he is a 41-year-old American and second-grade teacher.

Two law enforcement sources told CNN the man was under investigation for an unrelated sex crime when information led to his arrest in the Ramsey case.

"It is our hope that this arrest will bring some closure to the Ramsey family after a ten-year ordeal." said the family's attorney, Hal Haddon. "We respect the legal process and will have no further comment about the case or the evidence until that process is concluded."

JonBenet's father, John Ramsey, told 9NEWS in Denver that he has been notified of the arrest. Asked if he knew the suspect, Ramsey replied, "to the best of my knowledge, no," the station's Web site reported.

Prosecutors in Boulder have not confirmed the person's identity but are expected to hold a news conference Thursday.

KUSA reported that a man they call a suspect was arrested Wednesday morning and has confessed to certain elements of the crime that are unknown to the general public, KUSA reported.

JonBenet's beaten and strangled body was found in the basement of the family home in Boulder, Colorado, the day after Christmas in 1996. She was 6.

A grand jury investigation into the death of the child beauty pageant winner ended without charges in 1999.

The investigation focused a spotlight on the child's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Patsy Ramsey died in June of ovarian cancer. She was 49.

The Ramseys said an intruder committed the crime, but they remained the subject of suspicion and speculation.

In 2003 a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit against the Ramseys, blaming the police and the FBI for bungling the investigation. The Boulder County District Attorney's Office concurred with the judge's opinion the following month, saying there was little evidence against the couple

The Ramseys left Colorado and had a house in Charlevoix, Michigan, where John Ramsey unsuccessfully ran for office in 2004, and in Atlanta, Georgia.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/16/ramsey.arrest/index.html

Crookshanks
08-16-2006, 04:50 PM
Sources told CBS News that he is a 41-year-old American and second-grade teacher.

If this is correct, it's very scary - how many other little children did he molest?! :depressed I think it's quite telling that he was in Bangkok - that place is notorious for the child sex trade! :madrun

midgetonadonkey
08-16-2006, 04:55 PM
Bullshit. I still say her fucking parents did it.

IceColdBrewski
08-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Holy shit. If this man is the guilty party I think the Ramseys deserve one of the HUGEST apologies EVER given in the history of American public opinion, and the media.

sa_butta
08-16-2006, 05:25 PM
Holy shit. If this man is the guilty party I think the Ramseys deserve one of the HUGEST apologies EVER given in the history of American public opinion, and the media.I think there would be a lawsuit. They dont want an apology, $$.

Ocotillo
08-16-2006, 05:31 PM
I wonder if this suspect was in Bangkok because of the child sex stuff over there?

smeagol
08-16-2006, 09:30 PM
If it is true, I hope they give him the death sentence.

Anybody who kills a child does not deserve to live.

Yonivore
08-16-2006, 10:27 PM
Holy shit. If this man is the guilty party I think the Ramseys deserve one of the HUGEST apologies EVER given in the history of American public opinion, and the media.
Unless they were complicit in the crime. There's been allegations they were involved in some weird shit there in Colorado.

Nbadan
08-16-2006, 10:45 PM
Ramsey Suspect's Bay Area Ties Taught In Petaluma School District


41-year-old John Karr and his then-wife, Laura, once lived in Petaluma. She told us they were married back in 1989 and lived in Alabama until the year 2000 when they moved to Petaluma.

In the year 2001, Karr was charged with five counts of possessing child pornography. His teaching credential in Petaluma was suspended, then revoked for violating the education code.

He is still wanted in California. A warrant is still out for his arrest for failure to appear on those charges.

Laura Karr filed for divorce after her husband was charged in 2001. She says her husband did a lot of research on the JonBenet Ramsey case and also on Petaluma's own Polly Klaas.

ABC Local (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=4468925)

The plot thickens...

Nbadan
08-16-2006, 10:48 PM
More:


Laura Karr also tells us she's devastated and embarrassed by these murder charges, but she does not believe that her husband did it. She says that during Christmas season of 1996 when JonBenet Ramsey was strangled and beaten to death in Colorado, they were living in Alabama at the time and she was with him the entire Christmas season.

We spoke with a former neighbor of his, Sylvia Ross, who described him as "friendly, but divisive." She says that everyone in the neighborhood knew about the child pornography charges, but were afraid to talk openly about them.

01Snake
08-16-2006, 10:48 PM
He's probably some nutjob trying to earn his 15 minutes by claiming to be the killer.

LaMarcus Bryant
08-17-2006, 12:09 AM
I have to say, out of all the news stories in the world, I care most about the outcome of this story.

MaNuMaNiAc
08-17-2006, 12:26 AM
This is bullshit! Her parents did it, its clear as daylight. So much evidence against them its mindboggling how authorities haven't arrested them. Plus the way they were raising that poor girl... give me the creeps!

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 01:36 AM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060817/capt.bk10208170545.thailand_johnbenet_ramsey_bk102 .jpg

Suspect Admits to killing JonBenet Ramsey


BANGKOK, Thailand - An American suspect arrested in Bangkok has admitted to killing 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, the head of Thailand immigration police said Thursday, a surprise breakthrough in a lurid, decade-old murder mystery that had cast a cloud of suspicion over her parents.

John Mark Karr, 41, admitted to the killing after he was arrested at his downtown Bangkok apartment Wednesday night, Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul told The Associated Press.

Suwat said Karr arrived in Bangkok on June 6 from Malaysia to look for a teaching job. It was not clear whether he got a teaching position, the police officer said.

Karr's visa has been revoked as an "undesirable person" given the accusations against him, and U.S. authorities were expected to take him to the United States in the next few days, Suwat said.

Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060817/ap_on_re_as/thailand_jonbenet_ramsey)

MaNuMaNiAc
08-17-2006, 02:16 AM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060817/capt.bk10208170545.thailand_johnbenet_ramsey_bk102 .jpg

Suspect Admits to killing JonBenet Ramsey



Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060817/ap_on_re_as/thailand_jonbenet_ramsey)
hmmm... interesting, so much for "the parents did it" theory http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smiembarassed.gif

Kori Ellis
08-17-2006, 02:53 AM
Karr was a teacher who once lived in Conyers, Ga., according to Wood. The attorney said the Ramseys gave police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect.

Wood would not say how the Ramseys knew Karr.

Earlier today they said that when John Ramsey was talking about the arrest they asked if he knew the man and he said, "Not to my knowledge."

:wtf

jochhejaam
08-17-2006, 06:03 AM
This is bullshit! Her parents did it, its clear as daylight. So much evidence against them its mindboggling how authorities haven't arrested them. Plus the way they were raising that poor girl... give me the creeps!
Manu, based on the information we were given regarding the murder I always felt that the mother was guilty too, but the truth is that they didn't even have enough evidence to take it to trial.


A bizarre and tragic story.

MannyIsGod
08-17-2006, 06:08 AM
Weird weird weird.

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 06:54 PM
DA warns against jumping to conclusions...


JonBenet Ramsey D.A.: More work needed
CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press


BOULDER, Colo. - The district attorney in the JonBenet Ramsey slaying said Thursday there is "much more work" to be done in the case against the suspect, and she warned the public not to "jump to conclusions."

Mary Lacy, who has spearheaded the investigation for Boulder County, did not immediately disclose any details about the case involving former schoolteacher John Mark Karr, 41, who was arrested a day earlier at an apartment in Bangkok. In an interview with the Associated Press, Karr said he killed the girl by accident.

But Lacy suggested that the arrest may have been forced by other circumstances, including the need for public safety and fear the suspect might flee.

"There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.

She refused to say whether authorities were worried Karr was lying about killing the little girl. Lacy said Karr has not been formally charged, and declined to speculate what counts he might face.

"I'm asking you this morning, let us do our job thoroughly and carefully. The analysis of the evidence in this case continues on a day-by-day, on an hour-by-hour basis as we speak," she said, adding that "there is much more work to be done now that the suspect is in custody.

Twin Cities (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/15296608.htm)

The NY Times is reporting (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/world/18ramsey.ready.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5094&en=f7518a0c2e074e85&hp&ex=1155873600&partner=homepage) that an American official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that Mr. Karr had already come to the attention of American law enforcement officials in Thailand before the JonBenet investigation as part of a broader investigation into Americans who travel to Southeast Asian countries and engage in pedophilia-related activities.

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 06:58 PM
Ms. Lacy said prosecutors often make arrests before they have all the evidence lined up if there is a question of public safety or there is fear that the suspect might flee. While she mentioned Mr. Karr’s new job teaching in a school, and that he had moved from country to country in the last few years, she quickly added that she was not commenting on his case specifically.

One American official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of a continuing criminal investigation, cautioned against jumping too swiftly to the conclusion that someone who has confessed to a crime did in fact commit it. The official pointed out that it is not unusual in notorious cases, as the Ramsey case has surely become, for people to falsely claim that they committed the crime, basing their confessions on what they have read in the newspaper.

Even so, the official said, Mr. Karr “certainly knows a lot about it.” The official declined to provide any more details.

Mr. Karr, like the Ramsey’s, have roots in the South. Mr. Karr is from Alabama and later lived in Georgia, but some family members told reporters that he had never lived in Colorado.

Mr. Karr’s brother, Nate Karr, told Fox News that to his knowledge Mr. Karr had never lived in or visited Boulder, The Rocky Mountain News reported. Mr. Karr’s former wife, Lara Karr, told KGO-TV in San Francisco on Wednesday that while the couple was still married, her husband spent considerable time researching the Ramsey case and another notorious child murder case, that of Polly Klaas, who was abducted and killed in Petaluma, Calif., in 1993.

Ms. Karr said that she and Mr. Karr were in Alabama together on Dec. 25, 1996, the day JonBenet was killed in Colorado.

NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/world/18ramsey.ready.html?hp&ex=1155873600&en=f7518a0c2e074e85&ei=5094&partner=homepage)

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 07:01 PM
According to accounts today in The Rocky Mountain News and The Denver Post, Boulder law enforcement officials began to focus on Mr. Karr in recent months because of e-mail exchanges Mr. Karr had over the course of four years with Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado.

Mr. Tracey had made several documentaries about the case that challenged the work of the police and the public’s rush to blame the Ramseys for their daughter’s death; The News reported that Mr. Karr got in touch with Mr. Tracey after seeing one of the documentaries.

According to the newspaper, Mr. Tracey alerted private detectives hired by the Ramsey family about the correspondence with Mr. Karr, including Lou Smit, a former investigator for the Boulder district attorney’s office who resigned in 1998 in protest at the investigation’s focus on the parents.

The investigators encouraged Mr. Tracey to remain in contact with Mr. Karr, The News reported.

NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/world/18ramsey.ready.html?pagewanted=3&ei=5094&en=f7518a0c2e074e85&hp&ex=1155873600&partner=homepage)

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 07:06 PM
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/APTOPIX_THAILAND_JONBENET_RAMSEY.sff_BK104_2006081 7033535.jpg


BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - A former American school teacher said publicly Thursday he was with JonBenet Ramsey when she was killed and called the 6-year-old's death "an accident," a stunning admission that should help answer 10 years of questions in the unsolved murder case.

John Mark Karr, 41, will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told a news conference in Bangkok.

"I was with JonBenet when she died," John Mark Karr told reporters afterward, visibly nervous and stuttering as he spoke. "Her death was an accident."

AP News (http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060817/D8JI45RG0.html)

Asked if he was innocent of the crime, Karr said: "No."

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 07:35 PM
Dead Psychic image revisited...


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/2006/0817/9694215_240X180.jpg


DENVER -- Psychic Dorothy Allison believed she knew what JonBenet's killer looked like and provided a sketch to the Ramsey family, based on her visions.

The Ramsey family Web site published the sketch, asking the public, "Have you seen this man? This man may have been in the Boulder area in December 1996."

The sketch was also given to Boulder police, who continued to insist that nobody outside the family was likely involved in the crime.

Comparing the sketch side-by-side with that of a picture of suspect John Karr appears to show remarkable resemblance.

The Denver Channel (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9694322/detail.html)

01Snake
08-17-2006, 07:46 PM
I still say this guy is full of shit.

boutons_
08-17-2006, 08:26 PM
The cable news channels have latched onto this story just as if JonBenet (faux French bullshit stage name) was murdered yesterday.

I think the creepy, pushy way her parents were training her as peforming monkey was sick. I wonder how JB is viewing America's culture at its peak?

Nbadan
08-17-2006, 11:20 PM
What Karr has said - and what he has declined to say - cast some doubt on his involvement in the decade-old crime. Karr reportedly said that he'd picked up JonBenét at school - even though the crime was committed on the day after Christmas, when school wasn't in session. Karr said he drugged and sexually assaulted JonBenét before realizing he had killed her. But an autopsy found no trace of drugs in JonBenét's system, and evidence of sexual assault was inconclusive. "There's a huge inconsistency there," said Laurence "Trip" DeMuth, who was once one of the lead prosecutors in the case. Karr described the killing as an accident, even though JonBenét had been beaten and strangled with a garrotte. Asked how he gained entry to the Ramseys' home in Boulder, he wouldn't comment. Asked what happened to JonBenét, he sidestepped the question...

Knutson told San Francisco television station KGO-TV on Wednesday that Karr was with her in Alabama during the 1996 holiday season. Records also show that Karr was enrolled in an Alabama community college at the time. "There's reason to take this confession not just with a grain of salt, but with the whole container," said criminal justice professor James Alan Fox of Northeastern University in Boston. Former Georgia Bureau of Investigation special agent John Lang, who often assisted Boulder police in their investigation, said he never heard Karr's name mentioned and also urged caution when assessing his confession. "Everything in this case was leaked from the get-go," he said, adding that investigators should be wary of a Ramsey fanatic fabricating a rather detailed confession. "So many people are infatuated with this case."

Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/jonbenet/ci_4199089)

Yonivore
08-18-2006, 09:36 AM
I think it's his "get-out-of-Thailand-free" card and, in the process, get 15 minutes of fame.

Parents still on the hook.

101A
08-18-2006, 09:49 AM
I think it's his "get-out-of-Thailand-free" card and, in the process, get 15 minutes of fame.

Parents still on the hook.

There is only "Parent" now. Patricia Ramsey died earlier this year of ovarian cancer.

Yonivore
08-18-2006, 09:52 AM
There is only "Parent" now. Patricia Ramsey died earlier this year of ovarian cancer.
Okay, she's off the hook. But, that doesn't mean she wasn't involved in the crime.

Crookshanks
08-18-2006, 10:40 AM
I saw this case profiled on one of the true crime shows, and there were just too many facts that didn't fit with the parents killing her. The original investigators insisted the parents were involved and they had tunnel vision when it came to investigating any other leads.

I now think this Karr dude may be lying. He seems like a nutcase who was obsessed with the case and wants to be a part of it. I hope I'm wrong - because that would be so sad for Mr. Ramsey.

Ocotillo
08-18-2006, 10:51 AM
I think it's his "get-out-of-Thailand-free" card and, in the process, get 15 minutes of fame.



I seem to recall hearing a report somewhere that this guy was in legal problems in thailand relating to child porn. Could well be a preference for an American prison to a Thai one.....

Yonivore
08-18-2006, 11:07 AM
I seem to recall hearing a report somewhere that this guy was in legal problems in thailand relating to child porn. Could well be a preference for an American prison to a Thai one.....
Here's hoping Denver investigator will be able to verify (or disprove) his confession before they haul him back to the States. If he's lying, let him rot in Thailand. If he's not, bring him home and execute him.

Nbadan
08-19-2006, 03:57 PM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/jonbenet1.gif


John Mark Karr, 41, was arrested Wednesday, a day after he began teaching second grade in Bangkok, District Attorney Mary Lacy told reporters in Colorado. JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in the basement of her family's home in Boulder, Colo., on Dec. 26, 1996.

Karr told investigators he drugged and had sex with the child beauty queen before accidentally killing her, said a senior Thai police officer, who was briefed about the interview.

AP Host (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/J/JONBENET_RAMSEY?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-08-17-09-48-53)

Jelly
08-20-2006, 07:53 AM
My first instinct upon seeing this guy is he's lying. I mean he makes a confession and then when asked simple questions like "how'd you get in the basement", there's a long pause, he thinks about it and finally says "no comment". Every other answer was the same...long pause, then "no comment". He's making no comment because he wasn't there. I just think this is some sicko peodiphile (sp?) whose twisted ego is desperate to be connected to something big and famous.

Jelly
08-20-2006, 07:55 AM
Here's hoping Denver investigator will be able to verify (or disprove) his confession before they haul him back to the States. If he's lying, let him rot in Thailand. If he's not, bring him home and execute him.

Thailand wants him out asap. He was already in some trouble for unrelated sex charges over there.

jochhejaam
08-20-2006, 08:13 AM
More insight into the whacked out world of John Karr.

JonBenet Slaying Suspect Was Treated at Sex Change Clinic
Sunday, August 20, 2006



BANGKOK, Thailand — The suspect in the murder of American child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey was treated at a Bangkok clinic specializing in sex-change operations and cosmetic surgery, clinic officials said Sunday.

A doctor at the Pratunam Polyclinic confirmed that he had treated the suspect, 41-year-old former schoolteacher John Mark Karr.

"He was one of my patients," said Dr. Thep Vechwijit, who declined to provide details of the treatment.

A staffer at the clinic, who demanded anonymity since she was not authorized to make statements to the media, said Karr had consulted the doctor about a sex-change operation.

This could not be confirmed by other sources.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209480,00.html

jochhejaam
08-20-2006, 08:21 PM
Karr's being wined and dined with champagne and Fried King Prawns on the flight into the U.S.



JonBenet Murder Suspect En Route to U.S.
Sunday, August 20, 2006

PHOTOS VIDEO PHOTO ESSAYS
ABOARD THAI AIRWAYS TO LOS ANGELES — John Mark Karr, the suspect in the death of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, sipped champagne and ate fried king prawns in business class Sunday after being put aboard a flight to Los Angeles to face charges in the United States.

As Karr wined and dined in style and chatted with the three U.S. officials escorting him, another bombshell emerged: Reports that Karr sought treatment at a Thai sex-change clinic.

His Thai Airways International flight took off about 8 p.m. (9 a.m. EDT) for the 15-hour flight to Los Angeles. Karr's journey will eventually end in Boulder, Colo., where he is expected to face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault in connection with the young beauty queen's 1996 killing.

Karr was not handcuffed while being whisked through Don Muang International Airport in Bangkok. At the departure gate, he talked amiably with fellow passengers.

The 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder County District Attorney's office. A U.S. Embassy official and an agent with "Homeland Security" on his T-shirt were also part of the escort party.

Before takeoff, Karr took a glass of champagne from a flight attendant and clinked glasses with Spray, who sipped orange juice.

Dinner on board, served on a starched white tablecloth with silverware, was one many passengers would envy. Karr started with a pate, then had a green salad with walnut dressing. The main course was fried king prawn with steamed rice and broccoli. Karr drank a beer, crushing the can with his hands when it was empty, then moved on to a glass of French chardonnay with his main course.

"It seems odd to me. If there is an arrest warrant issued, he ought to be under arrest," said former Adams County District Attorney Bob Grant, who was involved in the Ramsey investigation. "It is very strange. Whoever is in control of him ought to make sure he isn't doing things like drinking champagne."

Other experts suspected officials were trying to loosen up Karr so he would talk.

"It could be that if he got a little inebriated he would make further statements that could include or exclude him from this case," said Craig Silverman, a former Denver prosecutor.

When Karr lands in Los Angeles late Sunday, he will be processed by immigration officials and is expected to be arrested by local authorities on an arrest warrant out of Colorado, said Carolyn French, spokeswoman for the Boulder County district attorney's office.

Karr will then have an extradition hearing in Los Angeles within the next few days, French said. If he agrees to waive extradition, Karr will then be taken to Boulder County.

"If he fights extradition that is a much more lengthy process," French said.

Karr was being brought back to the United States on a temporary passport. French did not have information on who paid for the flight.

The suspect was relaxed, smiling and chatting nonstop with the U.S. officials next to him — until the television news crews on the flight turned their cameras on. Then he stopped smiling, clutched the armrests of his seat and stared at his lap.

Karr did not speak to reporters, but at one point summoned an AP reporter over to his seat. He mentioned an interview she had given, recalling that someone asked her what he was like.

"You said I looked you straight in the eye when I talked to you and I want to tell you I appreciate that, I thought it was nice," Karr told the AP reporter.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209481,00.html

Jelly
08-21-2006, 12:24 AM
we should do a poll ( I don't know how...too tired to learn). Is this the killer or no? DNA evidence will be back in a few days.

T-Pain
08-21-2006, 01:00 AM
i think hes lying

sa_butta
08-24-2006, 12:33 PM
'Sexually, I am like a wolf,' Karr bragged to landlord

Alabama officials say Karr was licensed for home daycare


SAN JOSE, Costa Rica (AP) -- John Mark Karr bragged to his landlord's family that "sexually, I am like a wolf," and said he preferred girls to women when he worked in Costa Rica as an English teacher, his former housemates told The Associated Press.

Karr, now jailed in Los Angeles after his arrest in Thailand, is named in a Colorado warrant as a suspect in the 1996 murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.

Karr traveled around the world in recent years, including brief stays in Honduras and Costa Rica, where he rented a room in 2004 from Canadian John Hall, who teaches at a private university in the capital of San Jose.

Hall, 42, told AP in an exclusive interview that he rented a room to Karr through an Internet posting, but asked him to leave after about five weeks because Karr was saying "rude and inappropriate things" to his Costa Rican wife and stepdaughters, then 16 and 20.

"I threw him out because he was causing problems for them," Hall said.

One stepdaughter, now 22, told AP that Karr said several times that he liked girls.

Odd conversation

"My mother asked him whether he was looking for a girlfriend in Costa Rica and he answered that he didn't like adult women, only small ones," she said, speaking on condition her name not be published. "I thought he meant young women, and never imagined he meant girls."

During his stay with the family, Karr would often either talk incessantly, or sit in his room and listen to dark rock music, like that of Marilyn Manson, something that also bothered the Halls, who are Pentecostal Christians.

After kicking Karr out, Hall remained suspicious enough to do a computer search to see if he was a sex predator.

"I suspected he was a pedophile. I looked on the Internet to see if there was something on him, but I didn't find anything," he said.

The following year, Karr taught for eight months at a small primary school in La Esperanza, Honduras, 60 miles from the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa, a former co-worker said.

Renan Marquez said Karr taught second grade, but left because he had a contract with a school in another country; he didn't know which. Marquez told the AP by telephone that Karr was always "reserved, shy, responsible, organized and punctual."

Karr "required a lot of discipline" of his second-grade English students, Marquez said. "I never saw anything strange in his treatment of the children."

Alabama daycare license

Meanwhile, Alabama welfare agency officials said Thursday that Karr kept children at a home day-care center he operated in northwest Alabama.

The Marion County Department of Human Resources issued a license for Karr to begin operating a day-care out of his rural home in June 1997, said John Bradford, a spokesman with the Alabama Department of Human Resources.

He said the sheriff's department conducted a background check before the license was issued and no problems were found.

Karr didn't receive any complaints before the two-year license expired in 1999, Bradford told The Associated Press.

"We do know he kept children, but it is really hard to get a handle on the number," he said.

Karr, 41, has said he was with JonBenet when she was killed in the basement of her home in Boulder, Colorado, in December 1996, but he called her death an accident. (Full story (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/17/ramsey.arrest/index.html))

Karr was living with his ex-wife in Hamilton at the time of the slaying.

Karr, who was working as a teacher, was arrested last week in Bangkok, Thailand, and flown Sunday to the United States. He is being held in Los Angeles, California.

He has agreed not to fight his transfer to Colorado to face charges of murder, kidnapping and sexual assault of a child in connection with the December 26, 1996 slaying of the child beauty pageant competitor.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/24/karr.daycare.ap/index.html

Nbadan
08-28-2006, 07:01 PM
If the DNA don't fit you must acquit! (in my best Johnny C.)


KUSA - 9NEWS has confirmed from two sources that the DNA taken from John Mark Karr does not match the DNA samples taken from the crime scene in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case.

Samples of Karr's saliva and hair were taken in Boulder after his arrival on Thursday. Those samples were tested over the weekend inside the Denver Police Department's Crime lab.

9NEWS has confirmed that Karr's DNA is ruled out as the foreign DNA left on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in December 1996.

KUSA (http://www.kusa.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=5647dd32-0abe-421a-01cb-49517318e6a4&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf)

and


BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case Monday against John Mark Karr in the unsolved slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the crime scene despite his "repeated insistence" that he killed the 6-year-old girl.

“The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney,” public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. “They are not proceeding with the case.”

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/?GT1=8404)

Duh!

:hat

Yonivore
08-28-2006, 07:09 PM
I say ship him back to wherever they found him.

jochhejaam
08-28-2006, 07:21 PM
I say ship him back to wherever they found him.
Except Bangkok doesn't want him back. I would guess that a mental evalution is in order for Mr. Karr.

Crookshanks
08-29-2006, 11:49 AM
To quote a line from "Speed" - "this puts him in the crazy, but not stupid, column."

This guy is a certifiable nut, but he was smart enough to realize that sitting in an American jail was definately preferable to sitting in a Bangkok one!