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boutons_
09-05-2006, 08:34 AM
September 5, 2006
G.O.P. Sets Aside Work on Immigration

By CARL HULSE (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/carl_hulse/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and RACHEL L. SWARNS (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/rachel_l_swarns/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
WASHINGTON, Sept. 4 — As they prepare for a critical pre-election legislative stretch, Congressional Republican leaders have all but abandoned a broad overhaul of immigration (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/i/immigration_and_refugees/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) laws and instead will concentrate on national security issues they believe play to their political strength.

( aka, all scare-mongering, all the time. Rove's slime-bots will be at full strength. Polls show Iraq, econonmy, health care are the leading disasters on votes minds. )


With Congress reconvening Tuesday after an August break, Republicans in the House and Senate say they will focus on Pentagon and domestic security spending bills, port security legislation and measures that would authorize the administration’s terror surveillance program and create military tribunals to try terror suspects.

“We Republicans (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/republican_party/index.html?inline=nyt-org) believe that we have no choice in the war against terror and the only way to do it is to continue to take them head-on whether it is in Iraq or elsewhere,” said Representative John A. Boehner (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/john_a_boehner/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Ohio, the majority leader.

( the Repugs have NO RECORD to run on. So they run on fear. Will the sheeple be fooled again? )


A final decision on what do about immigration policy awaits a meeting this week of senior Republicans. But key lawmakers and aides who set the Congressional agenda say they now believe it would be politically risky to try to advance an immigration measure that would showcase party divisions and need to be completed in the 19 days Congress is scheduled to meet before breaking for the election.

President Bush had made comprehensive changes in immigration laws a priority, even making the issue the subject of a prime-time address, but House Republicans have been determined not to move ahead with any legislation that could be construed as amnesty for anyone who entered the country illegally. They held hearings around the country in recent weeks to contrast their enforcement-only bill with a Senate measure that could lead to citizenship for some.

“I don’t see how you bridge that divide between us and the Senate,” said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York and chairman of the Homeland Security Committee. “I don’t see it happening. I really don’t.”

Democrats (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/d/democratic_party/index.html?inline=nyt-org) say they are not surprised by the immigration impasse and believe some Republicans would prefer to keep the issue alive to stir conservative voters rather than reach a legislative solution. They plan to highlight the collapse of immigration legislation sought by Mr. Bush and the likelihood that Congress will not meet an Oct. 1 deadline to pass most required spending bills as evidence that Republicans have lost sight of the concerns of average Americans. The Democrats are also intensifying calls for the dismissal of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/donald_h_rumsfeld/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

“Every day, people around the country recognize that this is a failed administration,” said Senator Harry Reid (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/harry_reid/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Nevada, the Democratic leader. “If Republicans want to spend the whole month on nothing that is relevant to the American people, we are happy to do that.”

With Democrats poised to pick up seats in the House and Senate and Republicans determined to hang on to their majorities for the final two years of the Bush administration, the next few weeks promise to be highly combative, particularly after the August primaries made it clear that voters are not in a forgiving mood.

In a draft of a planning memorandum to be circulated to Republican senators, Senator Bill Frist (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/bill_frist/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Tennessee, who is entering his last months as majority leader, said, “I expect minority obstructionism to be at an all-time high.” Republicans are already preparing for a post-election session to begin Nov. 13 and run at least up to Thanksgiving.

( after the elections, "minority obstructionism" will be the Repug priority, as they move into the House minority party )

Mr. Frist laid out an ambitious agenda, including a vote on John Bolton’s renomination to be ambassador to the United Nations (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/united_nations/index.html?inline=nyt-org). But his memorandum did not even mention immigration. In an appearance in Iowa last week, Mr. Frist said broad legislation addressing what to do about millions of illegal immigrants already in the United States might have to await the next Congress.

Staff members from the Senate and House Judiciary Committees met last week to try to find some basis for common ground on the fate of the illegal population, but one participant said they made no progress.

Representative Mike Pence, the leader of the House conservative caucus and a proponent of an immigration compromise proposal that has attracted some White House interest, said he was also doubtful that legislation would reach Mr. Bush’s desk before the elections.

“Anything’s possible,” said Mr. Pence, Republican of Indiana, “but that’s probably not likely.”

Lawmakers of both parties who helped shape the Senate measure insisted that consensus was still within reach, even on the more difficult immigration issues, and immigrant advocacy groups are planning a series of marches this week to prod lawmakers to take action. Some Republicans warned that their party could suffer politically if it falls short.

“If there’s not legislation with Republicans in charge,” said Senator Arlen Specter (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/arlen_specter/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, “there’s going to be blame here, and justifiable blame, if we do not produce a bill.”

Two other senators who played a leading role in writing the Senate bill, John McCain (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/john_mccain/index.html?inline=nyt-per), Republican of Arizona, and Edward M. Kennedy (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/edward_m_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per), Democrat of Massachusetts, intend to urge Mr. Bush to bring lawmakers to the White House to broker a resolution.

“We can get the job done, but it’s going to require presidential leadership,” Mr. Kennedy said.

With the immigration measure seemingly stalled, Republicans say they will put most of their time and energy into security-oriented measures to drive home a theme that has served them well in the last two elections — that they are better equipped to thwart terrorism than are Democrats.

“They’ll wave the white flag in the war on terror,” Senator Mitch McConnell (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/mitch_mcconnell/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Kentucky, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, said Sunday of the Democrats on the CBS News program “Face the Nation.”

But Democrats believe that voters will not be easily persuaded by the Republican push on national security and that the public increasingly sees the Iraq war as an impediment to the war on terror.

In a letter to Mr. Bush on Monday, the Democratic leaders of the House and Senate urged him to begin pulling American troops out of Iraq this year.

“Mr. President, staying the course in Iraq has not worked and continues to divert resources and attention from the war on terrorism that should be the nation’s top security priority,” said the letter signed by Mr. Reid and Representative Nancy Pelosi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/nancy_pelosi/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of California, the Democratic leader, as well as the senior Democrats on relevant committees.

The Democrats also urged Mr. Bush to fire Mr. Rumsfeld, and they intend to try to force no-confidence votes in coming days that could put Republicans on the spot, given statements by some in the party that Mr. Rumsfeld should resign. But the leadership remains supportive.

“I doubt there is any other American who could have done a better job over the last five years,” Mr. Boehner said of the defense secretary.

Since they will not finish the spending bills on time, Republican leaders will have to push through a stopgap measure to keep the government running through the election. But Republicans do hope to advance some nonsecurity measures. The major legislation on the floor in the House this week is a bill that would ban trading in horses to be slaughtered for human consumption.

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People eating horses, a HUGE issue preoccupying the sheeple.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-05-2006, 08:56 AM
:lol


aka, all scare-mongering, all the time. Rove's slime-bots will be at full strength. Polls show Iraq, econonmy, health care are the leading disasters on votes minds.

So, when Democraps talk about the draft coming, economic downturn, etc., those aren't scare mongering?

I feel sorry for someone who is so completely incapable of looking in the mirror at his own party.

johnsmith
09-05-2006, 09:13 AM
I can't help but notice that Boutons has not ever posted an original idea, at least since I've been reading this site. Every thread starts with an article taken from elsewhere. Fuck, do you honestly believe everything you read. People like you are the problem with America, you do nothing but place blame while offering absolutely no solution for any of the problems. You believe every conspiracy theory because you are too fucking stupid to come up with a theory on your own. I know, I know, Bush planned 9/11, everything that Micheal Moore says is fact, and every problem in the world today is because of republicans. Now give me your witty "plunk" comeback and go back to being angry because you hate your Dad.

boutons_
09-05-2006, 09:27 AM
The Dems are not my party.

The economy IS on voters minds, since the vast majority of them are not participating in the growth of the economy. They are sliding backwards, the middle class getting raped on health care and college costs while their real incomes decline while productivity is up.

The Repugs are not talking about conscription,
the Dems are not talking about conscription,
only dumbfuck Aggies are talking about conscription.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-05-2006, 11:18 AM
So what is your party? Al Qaeda? Communism? Speak up, twit.


the Dems are not talking about conscription,

Sincerely,

Charles Rangel
Michael Moore
Cindy Sheehan

Only dumbfuck 15 year olds talk out of their ass on Spurstalk all the time.

Spurminator
09-05-2006, 11:47 AM
the Dems are not talking about conscription

Maybe it's not close enough to an election yet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35517-2004Oct15.html

George Gervin's Afro
09-05-2006, 12:06 PM
Maybe it's not close enough to an election yet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35517-2004Oct15.html


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1211369,00.html


http://homepage.mac.com/gcatalone/iblog/B946297652/C722062357/E1905819813/

no not the gop. They would NEVER play politics with the war..

Spurminator
09-05-2006, 01:37 PM
Did I claim Republicans don't use fear tactics?

Nope. Because to claim either party takes the high road in election years would be preposterous.

You people are so predictable.

"What? You say my party uses fear tactics? Well, here's an example of the other party doing it too. So there!"